is self-management a good thing?

There is a word for that. It's exposed.

>>74469161
Fuck off, Jerónimo, with that commie atitude! If it wasn't solely for based Casemiro, Atlético would have raped them in the finals. Plus, they are just being incredibly lucky this season

>>74469161
Zidane is not a good manager. Out of Copa, slipping the league and probably won't win the CL again.

>>74469413
this pretty much, based tuga

>>74470361
congrats for bumping a dead and retarded thread.

nothing is falling apart on this team and it's so fucking obvious.

Self-management = no management

Might as well have Ramos as player-coach.

>>74470426
if letting the worst Barca leading La Liga isnt falling apart, what is then, my ameriquito fellow?

Here's what happens
>get harsh manager in drilling team well
>player get moody and force him out
>nice or weak manager comes in
>team does well for 6-12 months because they're happy and well drilled
>then goes to shit because new manager has no control to drill or make changes.

It's basically Ancelotti's whole career and Zidane was so blatant about it that he was fucking using Benitez's notebooks.

>>74470361
Thanks, filhote

>>74471278
you're welcome, bacalhau

That's called being a lazy motherfucker.

>>74471301
No, is not.

>>74469436
Screencapping

>>74470847
I think someone with personality would have worked at madrid, benitez's training and drilling is top notch but he's a massive weirdo and unlikeable by all accounts

>>74471284
It's Papá (NOT PAPAI, YOU FUCKING RETARD) Bacalhau for you, son

>>74471319
wat?

>>74471326
DON'T SAY PAPAI!

AND IT'S PAI NATAL, NOT PAPAI NOEL!

>>74471319
>>74471341
Autism

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>>74471341

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>>74471319
>>74471341
>quarto de banho
>auto carro
>tiro de esquina
>alcunha
>ananás
>rabo
>guarda-redes
>equipa

>>74471682
*autocarro, e que raio de merda é um tiro de esquina?

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>>74471697
>this is called Coche-de-Passeio in Portugal
can't make this shit up

Real Madrid needs Felix Magath.

>>74471846
>Real Madrid divas being forced to work hard
They'd run him out of town faster than Benitez

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>>74470847
This.
>Martinez
>Laudrup
>Zola
>Luis Enrique
>Ranieri
>Rijkaard

How is it even still a thing?

This is a good /sp/ thread. Cause this happened to Franciszek Smuda. Have we ever scream Zidane yelling at his players? He is just casually walking around

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>>74471697
>autoclismo

>>74471697
>raio de merda
>giro
>fixe
>Ronaldo as surname

>>74472369
Based Smuda

>>74471861
The list with divas goes on and on. Barca, top 7 EPL teams. PSG and Monaco don't have divas since Zlatan is out and Monaco just don't want to have any and now they may achieve something.

When will the Top player meme end and people will aprecieate 'literally who' players like Teodorczyk or Gameiro.

>>74472389
>>74472369
Based Smuda, at least he's doing well at Łęczna

>>74472404
>>74472389
He literally screams his lungs out and make players shit blood and dead babies after trainings. And this can work if team is a TEAM.

>>74472430
I will add even more. This is the only right way to train.

>>74472386
His surname is Aveiro, you fucking retard! Ronaldo is his second name! He got named Ronaldo as his second name because his father loved Reagan's films!

>>74472440
>second name
>surname

I only mixed the words. You know what I mean, bacalhaufag.

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Polish coach Franciszek Smuda once said "If I wanted to see trees I would have gone to the forest instead" about Lewandowski.

It might be good for short-term success if you have great players with a good work-rate, but having a firm manager who can earn the respect of his players is far more successful in the long run.

>>74472449
No. You seemed to really think that Ronaldo was his surname, his family name, his last name. With a Brazillian, one must always expect the worse scenario possible

>>74472369
it's an interesting discussion. if you look at Real Madrid recent history at least, you'll notice they go from one tough manager to one soft one (or a pure self-management believer like Zidane) to the next tough manager, with varying results.

Del Bosque, Schuster, Pelegrini, Ancelotti, Zidane as the soft ones
Capello, Ramos, Mourinho, Benitez as the tough managers. Only the real strong ones like Capello and Mourinho managed to remain in place longer than one season and to do something of note. The leagues were won the tough managers, while the soft ones benefited from the work behind and the strategy of "only having to turn up full gas 13 matches a season" to win a few European Cups.

is it a good strategy?
has Real Madrid a difficult path ahead having just signed long contracts with all their 28+ or 30+ stars? Benzema, Marcelo, Modric, Ramos, Ronaldo all have 3 or 4 years left and the younger ones Bale and Kroos probably longer

>>74472404
They are shit now but it's because it's players got too lazy under their previous coach. If the will make it out of the bottom and won't change Smuda, then we will see 11 terminators destroying everything on their path next year.

>>74472504
They shouldnt contract benzema and tsu.

BASED FRANEK I RATE SMUDA BASED FRANEK I RATE SMUDA
GOLGOLGOLGOLGOL

>>74471349
You will not divide them? Everytime I see that flag I would love to drop the bomb there myself. Parasite country.

>>74470847
Looks like the Chelsea scum to me. But like always time is the only unexposable constant in the world.

>>74470847
I too read that article yesterday, friend

>>74473516
>74473516
link to article please?

>>74474437
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/mar/02/claudio-ranieri-leicester-city-discipline-success-theory