/copalib/ - Sudamericana night 2

You know, I had the idea of bumping the previous thread in the morning, but I simply forgot about it.

There's U17 South American Championship today too.

>>74449166
What matches today?

>>74449285
Colombia 2 - Bolivia 3

Chile vs Ur Gay next

>Translated names.

>the city of parque patricios

DALE PALESTINO

>esc estás en el departamento sinbFOX Sports
>esc tampoco trajiste tu computador para verlo en un stream

reee

Masacre.

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how the fuck is Huracan still playing cups, they're literally relegation tier

>hurricane

No Sulamericana matches on TV now. Only Copa do Brasil.

Avaí x Luverdense
PSTC x São Paulo
Sinop x Fluminense

>Palestina vs Venezuela

¿Qué quisieron decir con esto?

>el globo

In 85 minutes, Árabe Unido x Dallas for Concachampions

>>74451159
Whatever to keep up this thread

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>tfw no Guyana and Suriname in Conmebol

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Be honest, how many of these teams' crests you actually know before today?

3 here

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>>74450626
> São Paulo contra um partido político lol

Nacional Potosí 2-1 Sport Huancayo

>>74451299
> 2007
> 2009

This cup was a mistake

Forrocán with 10 now

3-1 for Nacional now

>>74451299
I recognize from this pic River Plate, Racing, Palestino and Huracan.

>>74451299
Hurricane and Rasin, I knew about Palestino but this is the first time I see their crest.

Es este tambien el hilo del sudamericano u17?

>la provincia de la garrita

>La provincia rebelde

>>74451461
>River plate

FUCK THIS GAY ERATH

Two expulsions for Forrocán

>"Conmebol" Liberadores
>"Conmebol" Sudamericana

Why

>>74451623
>UEFA Champions League
>UEFA Europa League

>Copa CONMEBOL Libertadores
>Copa CONMEBOL Sudamericana

>Confederation Title Tournament
>Tournament Confederation Title

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

who /promiedos/ here

>tfw no Copa Conmebol anymore

>>74451656
>Put the Conmebol just to copy UEFA
>Still has sponsors, so it has to be called a clusterfuck like Copa Conmebol Libertadores Bridgestone

>>74451723
Copa is not part of the name anymore m8

>>74451664
?

>>74451533
>>74451542
What happened?

>>74451857
The sub-17 sudamericano, Chile tied at 89' against Uruguay.

>>74450460
> El sexto grande pa'
> es nuestro año pa'

Son los consentidos de los medios

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Now comes the hard part

So, uh, how's that copa going?

>>74451299
I know Palestino, they have a pretty big following here

>>74452359
There is cup right now?

>>74451299
For me, it's Danz

>>74451664
Talking about promedios, is Peñarol still battling relegation? I fucking love seeing big clubs getting relegated (other than mine, of course).

POST ROCHAS

GAAAAAAL ATLETICO VENEZUELA
Palestino 0 - 1 Atl. Venezuela

GAAAAAAL RACING CLUB DE AVELLANEDA
Racing 1-0 Aguilas

REFBAAAAAAAL CORINTHIANS
Brusque 0-0 Corinthians.

>>74452955
pls respond ;_;

>>74453275
Copa do Brasil?

>the second leg is in 70 days

what madness is this

>>74453298
Yes. The Brusque player got past the offside trap, was tripped from behind inside the box, the referee literally looked the other way.

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>2nd legs in May

racing is going to win the cup btw

>>74453307
Welcome to South America, where there are no rules and everyone is insane.

>>74453343
>racing
>winning

Pumas vs Tigres is going to start in 40 at 200 meters from where am I.
This shit will get the most likely winner of the tournament so it's kind of worth it. Plus we get le monsieur choke Gignac

Me enamore de una chica que esta en 4to año en la universidad y yo estoy en primero tengo alguna chance

wena cabros

>>74452955
>>74453295

not an expert but

> Promedios de Uruguay: [2016 points+2017 points]/total matches

2016 points
--
12 Plaza Colonia
15 Penarol
17 pts Juventud, Rampla & Sudamerica
18 River
19 Fenix
20 Racing
22 Cerro & Boston
24 Liverpool
25 Defensor Sporting
29 Wanderers & Danubio
34 Nacional

> Three teams get relegated

If Penarol doesn't make a better 2017 than at least 2 teams, they are relegated.

>>74452837
>they have a pretty big following here
why

>>74453481
>Using promedios to determine who is relegated

When this meme will end?

Reminder that if your team's jerseys lack the player's names, your team is pretty much amateur

>>74451299
I knew Palestino (They played against us in the 2015 group stage), Racing, Huracan and the River Plate clone

>>74453481
Is there any realistic chance of it happening? Or is just like those short tournaments in Argentina, where Boca would ocasionally finish dead last but nothing happened?

>>74453510
Brazil just went through 14 years of leftist government, so of course a lot of leftists like them because "muh plaestine" or something like that.

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>>74453481

>peñarol relegated

Peñarol is not riber m8

>>74453567
>>> Boca finishes last

never happened, senpai

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Torneo_Apertura_2008_(Argentina)

>>74453614
I knew about River finishing last, I was talking about this one, but Boca finished second to last.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Torneo_Final_2013_(Argentina)

>>74453307
Sudamericana is to fulfill the Libertadores breaks

> Next week Libertadores
> Then Libertadores
> International break
> International break
> Sudamericana
> Libertadores
> Libertadores
> Libertadores
> Libertadores
> Libertadores/Sudamericana
> Libertadores
> Libertadores (End group stage)
> Sudamericana (End First stage)
> Actual break

We literally have 13 weeks of international matches ahead without interruption

>malestino

>corinthians going to penalties against a team with literally no division
Palmeiras disappoints me sometimes, Corinthians doesnt. Ayy.

>>74453567
Nah, Penarol is gonna pull a good tournament for sure and it's gonna be enough

>>74453675
Pls keep us informed

This Corinthians-Brusque game might have been the worst game of any sport that I´ve ever watched.

>>74453699
You should watch it, there will be chimpouts if Corinthians lose.

>>74453675
Come on, they aren't taking those regional "competitions" seroiusly are they?

>>74453699
Game over, penalties incoming. Corinthians finished with 44% of ball possession against a team that failed to qualify for the lowest division in Brazilian football.

>>74453717
This is the Brazilian Cup, winner gets a /copalib/ spot and a shitload of money, it is Corinthians best chance of qualifying for copalib, since they have a shit team and all their rivals improved.

>>74453717
It's Copa do Brasil m8. I think it's older than Brasileirao itself

Here is a link so we can all watch the chimpout together, Brusque already 1-0 up on the shootout.

http://otampadabola1.com/assistir-brusque-x-corinthians-ao-vivo-gratis-em-hd-01032017/

>>74453743
>>74453745


What are the possibilities of having a chimpout then?

>>74451299
>not knowing about based RACING

go back to watching ~~Chempionss~~ league already

Corinthians biggest signing of the season missed the first PK, this gon b gud.

>>74453776
At least 60%. Corinthians supporters are famous for being criminals and staging chimpouts every other month.

>>74453525
It's the safest way to assure that the big teams don't get relegated because they had a shit season. They would have to be consistently shit for two or three seasons in a row to be in danger, like River and Independiente were.

>>74453769
> Already losing

NICE

>>74453769
that local barrio atmosphere is lovely

>>74453769
>>74453833

Are they playing at Brusque stadium?

>>74453510
I was joking, it's just that they eliminated Flamengo in the last Sulamericana. Anyone that beats a big team here becomes a meme.

>>74453833
>barrio
Nigga pls, we´re not Argentina.

> CASSIO

>>74453851
Favela then?

YOU JUST HAD ONE JOB, YOU MOTHERFUCKER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>74453853
fucking Cassio is there? what stage is this?

PECHO

Brusque just had to score the last PK and they would win, nigga hit the crossbar, we alternates now.

>>74453867
FUCK

here's youtube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCt55-sVaAY

I really appreciate that you shared this with us brazzibro, but we are argies, you just jinxed it

Corinthians won, what is this I dont even

>>74453906
If it wasnt for argies we would still have the meme of Corinthians without a copa libertadores, fuck Argentina.

Welp, guess brazilian teams are just failures

>>74453913
fuck you I was happy with my hopes not being broken tonight

no seriously, thanks for sharing

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The dream is over.

>palelstino

>>74449081
When do the Mexican teams play?

>vasco da gama struggling against a shit second division side
The fourth relegation is a reality.

>>74453929
You still have a Libertadores-less Fluminense, so that's something (?)

>>74454060
Fluminense is more famous for being relegated 3 times and only playing on second division once than for being a big club. They have less supporters than some clubs on the "second level" of the big clubs.

Cat fight in the ay lmao stream

Pumas (1)-(1) Tigres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03btt4CI20

NOT A COMPLETE JOKE TIER
Cruzeiro
Flamengo
Santos
Sao Paulo

JOKES BUT RECOVERING TIER
Atletico Memeiro
Botafogo
Gremio
Palmeiras

COMPLETE FUCKING JOKES
Corinthians
Fluminense
Internacional
Vasco

>>74454097
Which are the "first level" big clubs?

Santos, San Paulo maybe?

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>>74454264

How has Paolo Guerrero been playing?

>pumASS

>>74454881
People are finally getting in touch with the fact that he isn't a 50-goals-per-season guy, and he's doing quite alright.

Season just started, but he has 6 goals in 7 games (against pretty shit opposition), which is the best beginning he ever had in his career. Flamengo's team is very solid now, where in past years he had to deal with shit team mates.

Personally, I hope he goes for a brace against Fluminense in Taça Guanabara's final this Sunday, just so he can get more confident in derbies and to keep his great average this season.

>>74454826
Right now, I'd say the first level big clubs are Palmeiras, Flamengo, Atletico-MG and Santos, in terms of team quality, with maybe Gremio or Cruzeiro completing the Top 5.

But in terms of fans, it's Flamengo, Corinthians, Sao Paulo, Palmeiras and Vasco, in that order.

Now, talking about history, Santos and Botafogo are the ones with more to say, especially in the 50s/60s. Palmeiras around that same time, Flamengo in the 80s and Sao Paulo a bit later are pretty big too.

>>74451664
Promiedos = Shithole forum

>>74451281
why is that?

>>74455269
Santos and gremio are shit right now, mate.
Cruzeiro is definitely top 5 right now.
5th is either botafogo or fluminense.

>>74457239
Bolivia and Venezuela are, and by far, our weakest associations, and their teams (both at international and at club level) would easily destroy 10-0 any Guyana or Surinam team.

I'm not even sure that football is played there tbqh.

This thread is gonna survive for today matcheses?

>>74459262
>Santos and gremio are shit right now, mate
>5th is either Botafogo or Fluminense
welp

If by "now" you mean in the last match each team played, then yeah I agree.

How's your rank then? The big 12 from Sudeste-Sul

>>74459756
I gotchu familia.

Bump

>>74454826
There are 12 clubs considered big in here. The biggest and most relevant are Palmeiras, Corinthians, Flamengo, Vasco and São Paulo, not necessarily in that order (and by biggest and most relevant I mean in terms of titles, national and international recognition, supporters and such). The rest of them are Santos (lots of titles, but most of them happened on the Pelé days or with Neymar, and they dont have a good support, despite being the only big club in their city and having a stadium with max attendance of only 18k, they rarely fill their stands. I myself have never met a Santos supporter in my life), Cruzeiro, Atlético Mineiro, Grêmio, Inter (have lots of titles too, but less than the other clubs I mentioned, and their support is basically limited to their home state), and then finally Fluminense and Botafogo (less national titles than all the others, no international titles, relevant in the "romantic" era of football but almost no success after that, smaller support than 2nd tier clubs, lots of relegations, with Fluminense having the "honor" of being the only one of the big clubs to ever get relegated to the 3rd division, while Botafogo´s last major title was 22 years ago). After that you have local giants, clubs that are really big on their home state, but won little in a national level, like Bahia, Coritiba, Atlético Paranaense, Sport. Those clubs will usually fight for recognition as the 13th giant, just like Huracan tries in Argentina.

>>74461057
on point

Fluminense is not that much of a joke as we're making it look like, tho. I mean, they had 2 league titles this decade, plus that Libertadores final in 2008 and Sulamericana in 2009. Their fanbase is shrinking dramatically, but in terms of titles in recent years, they're no worse than Flamengo, Palmeiras, or Vasco.

Vasco on the other side is kind of sad, 3 relegations in 8 years are really hurting its status. It's supporters aren't dying soon, since the club's golden age was not that long ago, but damn if they're losing some respect.

At least that's how I see things here in Rio.

>>74459262
>>74460074
How is Santos playing? The Strongest have to play against them on Libertadores so I wonder if >we are going to rape them as well

>>74461346
Fluminense only started to win something recently, I have Fluminense supporters in my family and they have always been the laughing stock when it came to football, and after the money went away they returned to be. I agree with you on Vasco, they still have a huge fanbase and so, but if they get relegated again this year, I seriously fear for the club's future.

>>74461390
They have a huge number of players out injured and are in a big crisis, only won 2 games so far this season and suffered 2 defeats in a row at home, where they have been almost unbeatable recently, one of those defeats was to a literally who team with no division. Their supporters are threatening the players, while the players are publicly complaining about the lack of support and the dismissal of the Director of Football. But their best players can still win a game in a moment. It wont be easy, but I think you guys actually stand a chance (and I´m really hoping you do rape them, it will be pure lulz and likely cause a chimpout).

Today's fixture:

>Juan Aurich (BOL) vs Bootleg Arselel (ARG)
>Cerro Porteño (PAR) vs Caracas (VEN)
>Deportes Tolima (COL) vs Bolivar (BOL)

First match in less than 25 bings. Also, U20 South American Championship:

>Brazil vs Paraguay

Venezuela is winning 2-1 against Peru.

>>74459322
that's not a reason however, I mean officially at least there has to be another, like "they didn't want to join the south american football league" or "they don't have a stadium big enough". Something like that.

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In other /copalib/ news, Mancha Verde, Palmeiras biggest firm/barra brava/torcida organizada (and one of the biggest in the world), just announced the end of their activities, after an ongoing internal battle resulted in the murder of one of their founding members.

>>74461879
What motives besides fútbol triggered such violent events?

>>74461557
I hope Venezuela can become elite in my lifetime

>>74461753
Officially, it's because they went to Concacaf and asked to be part of it when their associations were established, instead of trying to get into Conmebol.

And that was motivated because they are weak as shit and even the weakest of Conmebol countries could destroy them, so they chose to be part of a less strong confederation. And they are shit even for Concacaf standards, so go figure.

>>74461753
Culturally they have stronger ties to the Caribbean. French and Dutch isn't spoken anywhere in CONMEBOL.

CONCACAF doesn't care, they get more votes and FIFA money for unpopulated countries no better than 30 other islands.

>>74461997
aha

>You know remember that the Champion of CONCACAF lost 7-0 to the Champion of CONMEBOL

kek

>>74461921
Money, and the fact that the current president of the firm is an absolute madman.

>>74461879
this must be a first in world history

>>74461879
A barra brava got banned a few weeks ago here in Ecuador, for the first time ever.

>>74462528
Barras get banned every week here in Brazil, it doesnt change shit except for the fact that they go to the stadium unidentified and much harder for police to seek. But this was different, it was more like the Rafa di Zeo x Mauro Martin thing in La 12.

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>>74449081
Just a reminder that Peñarol and Atl. Tucuman will be the ones going to the next round.

Palmeiras will get absolutely BTFO

>>74463842
Peñarol will be too busy trying to avoid relegation to worry about la copa, m8.

Last 15' of Cerro Porteno 1-1 Caracas if someone gives a shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g32p3k1UdRw

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>>74452955
We just won 4-0. We can't be stopped.

Nah but pic related
>>74453481
>Peñarol relegated

RiBer pls

>>74463924
>10th in a league with only 2 teams
You should be ashamed of yourselves.

>>74453481
>>74463924
> Plaza Colonia

Weren't those niggas champions just last year?

Hey guys
Can Botafogo and Chapecoense do it?

>>74463842
If that happens it will be the biggest choke in Brazilian season
I'm hoping for it

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>>74463951
>>74463951
We're 4th though, that's just the relegation table.

And that's because of an awful never seen before last season, we have a new DT and we've been playing better

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Damn, I'm gonna miss Juan Auschwitz this year. Fucking Arsenal that's why everyone hates you

Next week schedule

> Thursday
Iquique-Guarani
Wilstermann-Penarol
Paranaense-Catolica
Zulia-Chapecoense
> Wednesday
Godoy Cruz-Mineiro
Sport Boys-Libertad
Alt Tucuman-Palmeiras
Flamengo-San Lorenzo
> Tuesday
Zamora-Gremio
Lanus-Nacional
Cristal-Santos
Chumacero-Independiente Santa Fe

For me, it's

Zulia-Chape; Flamengo-San Lorenzo; Lanus-Nacional

>>74463970
>If that happens it will be the biggest choke in Brazilian season

Didn't they lose to Naciomal last copa?

>>74463960
>Weren't those niggas champions just last year?

Yes and no, they won the Clausura not the entire tournament.

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Tolima-The Weakest in ~40 bings

Ayy lmao stream already in pre-match cumbia mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdw3n0WCZF0

>>74464041
I'll be picking Wilster-Penarol, Tucuman-Palmeiras & Sporting Cristal-Santos.

I think most matches are in different timeslots anyway

>>74463970
>If that happens it will be the biggest choke in Brazilian season

What about bi-champion Cruzeiro losing to fucking San Lorenzo in 2014?

>>74464060
>they won the Clausura not the entire tournament.

Your league's system don't recognize it as a title (not even giving a trophy) or it's "just you" that consider it as a tittle?

>>74464088
>I think most matches are in different timeslots anyway
They do, but most of them overlap

>>74464110
No it definetely is a trophy but not the big one.

For example Peñarol wins apertura, then the table resets for the second half of the season and Nacional wins Clausura.

Then you have a final between Peñarol and Nacional to decide the champion.

>Los torneos Apertura y Clausura, también conocidos como "torneos cortos", son torneos que se disputan dentro de la temporada del Campeonato Uruguayo de Fútbol, y al igual que en muchos países de Latinoamérica, dividen la temporada en dos mitades, cada una con su propio campeón. En Uruguay, los dos campeones de los torneos cortos (en caso de ser dos clubes distintos) disputan partidos a final de temporada, para determinar un campeón único anual.

>>74464228
Then I guess people celebrated at Colonia anyway right? good for them

>>74464272
Yeah of course, the title is still a thing and Plaza Colonia is a really small team so to them it means even more.

I think the players get paid like 1k a month too so it's quite impressive.

>>74464110
>What about bi-champion Cruzeiro losing to fucking San Lorenzo in 2014?
oh, well, I meant this season right now. But hey, Quarter Finals and best attack in group stage is not as bad as being eliminated in Palmeiras' group. And Cruzeiro weren't bi-champions yet by the time that happened! That was pretty bad, but San Lorenzo ended up as the champion, too, so I guess that alleviates things a bit.

>>74464060
>Didn't they lose to Naciomal last copa?
Yeah, they were very shit in last Libertadores but that motivated them to do better and they ended up as Brasileirão champions. Plus, their team is stacked af. Second most expensive team in Liberta, only a little behind Atletico-MG who like to burn their money. Everybody is hyping up Palmeiras cause they're the champions and also got the best transfers last window. Only weak points are that they changed coach and lost Mr. Jesus.

>>74464041
>not watching THE STRONGEST

Shame on you

>>74464401
>their team is stacked af. Second most expensive team in Liberta

Watch them get BTFO by Atl.Tucuman

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>>74464513
> tfw my team and The Strongest can't be both champions

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>>74464804
wrong pic

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>>74464712
I surely hope that happens. Will be watching when Mengão isn't playing.

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>>74464841
> Junior
> Universitario
> That Strongest/Espanola gap

Anything interesting happening in your local leagues this weekend lads?

Here AFA threatened teams that don't play this weekend will lose their points

>>74464841
Stop trying to jinx Palmeiras, just because you spent last season celebrating the league title and ended up finishing 3rd, nearly 10 points behind them.

Bolivia looking stronk this year. Let's keep an eye on Wilstermann

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>>74454264
>not a complete joke tier
>santos
>flamengo

>>74464918
Brasileirão hasn't started yet, so we're still in the state championships deluding ourselves.

Oh, there's the Campeonato Carioca final match, Fla x Flu. Both teams are undefeated this season and Flamengo's the favorite to win this one.

>>74464841
Alario's market value covers 18US$ of 61,7US$, in River

>>74464918
>>74465217
A lot of football violence, not so much football, the usual for the first semester.

>>74464841
I'm surprised to see Barcelona and Emelec that high in that list desu.

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>>74464841
>Tucuman is worth more than Millonarios
>Paranaense is worth more than the double
It couldn't be helped r-right? It's not like we choked massively.

>>74465654
At least they're playing decent in the FPC.

>>74464841
Under Chape most are already out

>>74464841
>The Strongest

I hope they can meme their way to the finals

Last Concachampions quarter final
Vancouver Whitecaps (1)-(1) New York RedBulls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7e1SHNG1UI

>>74465654
In your defense, Atlético Paranaense do have a very good team, even for hue standards, they only lost 1 game at home last season, and it was for the champions (and pls stop calling them just Paranaense, or Mineiro, its wrong),

>>74467212
can we call them Atletico T, Atletico M and Atletico P?

wena wena compadres

>>74467392
Can I call your teams Boca J, River P and San L? Nigga, please.

>>74467446
Well I proposed Atletico T, so...

>>74467468
Shit, I didnt noticed. I guess you can, then.

>>74467483
Thanks B

Most teams can be referred to with one of the words that make up their names, stop being autistic.

>>74467656
Most teams, not all of them. And I'm not the only one who finds it weird when other conmebros refer to some br clubs like that, the brazilian media complains about it a lot.

>>74467784
It's something about Paranaense. I always hear media/regular people say Atletico Mineiro but they always say Paranaense more often than Atletico Paranaense

>>74467392
pls add one more letter like

Atl-MG, Atl-PR, Atl-TU

that remembers me of alt mineiro