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/f1/ - Formula One General - Testing Day 3

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Countdown to Aus
>Http://www.whenisf1on.com/

Happening Now
>27/08 - 02/03: Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona

Upcoming Test
>07/03 - 10/03: Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona

Winter Stream
>https://www.rabb.it/spf1general
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first for Manor
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forza ferrari
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nth for NO MORE HUE THREADS
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Something something Aus Q3
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>>74441600

You silly willy. Gissar vem jag gillar.

Jag trivst bäst nar jag skillet salad.

>>74441606

You're doing god's work. Grazzi.
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So is there a possibility to buy Manor and enter into the season before the third race? What about their power unit, sure it's more reliable that McLels has got
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>>74441637
Just read an article about that yesterday. It's still possible and there are potential buyers, but they want to enter the season later on, which they are not allowed as it stands.
Finishign the car until AUS would be possible but with each day passing it grows less likely.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9-jt1E10k

Absolutely based Mika.
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Today no stream of the testing?
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>>74441656
I suppose they don't have the best words.

You're welcome for (us) discovering your country.

Ricci seems like a decent lad but wobbler liked cycling better.
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cheeky tenner for kimi to win autralia?
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Bottas 1:20.107 on Soft

It's over
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>no more flags on /sp/

wew
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>>74441674

Who are you quoting?
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>>74441661
>autism book
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>>74441674
MI5 is tracking you lad.

They steal your bandwith while they're monitoring you.

That's why the flags are not showing.

Godspeed.
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>>74441683
thats alright mate my dad owns the MI5
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>>74441673
BOOM HAMILTON BTFO
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4.843 seconds faster than the target laptime
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Bottas 1:19.8
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>@Nicorosberg
>BARCELONA TEST VISIT: Cars look monstrous! Drivers will be gladiators! They will be on the limit physically! Great HYPE at the moment!

>Lewis moans about new cars while Nico hypes people up

He is doing more for F1 and he isn't even driving.
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>Bottas posts a 1m19.838s using super-softs.
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In a world where the world champion retired upon winning the WDC Reddit still believes that drivers have 0 regard for their safety and race purely for 'muh passion' and would try as hard as they could in a no points race with zero incentive to try hard.

Reminder that Pascal almost ruined his career in three wheeled meme race.
Reminder that Bianchi died and the whole grid and FIA cried over it.
Reminder that the senior F1 drivers got upset at max for moving under braking and 'racing' citing muh safety.

Yet Reddit still believes in this romantic James Hunt competitive drivers meme when in reality most drivers take the Lauda approach.
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1:19.838 by Bottas on Supers

MWL
W
L
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>>74441707
HOLY FUCK. Hamilton gonna see that Bottas is elite unlike bronzeberg. It's gonna get cold for our black boy.
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Yes, yes well done, Ferrari, well done..

HOWEVER
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what are good twitter profiles to follow practises/races etc?
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>>74441661
I love Mika.
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pls challenge hamilnigger buttass

pls
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>>74441709
Still over a second slower than Massa's crazy 2008 test run with slick tyres.
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>one hour until Seb speaks to the press
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>>74441711
Reddit likes to think F1 is wwe with cars most of the time so this isn't surprising.
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>>74441735
but thats nascar not f1
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Red Bull aren't looking particularly quick t b h.

Any reasons?
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>>74441672
>Sainz less likely to win than both Saubers
kek
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>>74441742
Their long runs looks promising
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>>74441738
Nah, WWE is 99% fake mandrama, NASCAR is 100% real mandrama
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>>74441742
Renault can't into turbo.
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>>74441742
They are doing aero set up runs most of the time, performance is not the focus this week.
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>>74441753
I was gonna say they were the first, then I remebered they sucked anyway
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This man has seen some shit
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>>74441764
>all around me are familiar faces
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Just put some chicken tendies in the oven. Feels good to be a gangsta.
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>
Mercedes have a new closest challenger on the timesheet and, for the first time this winter, it's Red Bull.

>Daniel Ricciardo produces a 1:21.152 to leap ahead of Ferrari's Vettel by 0.4s and into second place.

The sandbags are coming out, lads
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>>74441782
On softs too
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Bottas 19.705 on Ultra

Ultra Soft Hype ladz
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>>74441793
Who can stop this madman?
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>>74441795
Anyone
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>>74441793
over a minute faster holy shit
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>>74441793
1:19 not that fast la?
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>>74441802
and no one.
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>>74441806
lel
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>>74441802
Anyone deserves a drive at TR more than Daniil Blyat
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>>74441793
>Bottas going over 1000kmph on the main straight

Hamilel has NO CHANCE
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"I know the Mercedes has broken into the 1m19s bracket on super-softs, but watching at the fast Turn 9 right-hander the Ferrari doing 1m21s on mediums still looks the most impressive car to me. It just looks so stable and consistent." - Gary Anderson
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>>74441815
Undoubtedly, cause torpedoes seat is in RB.
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>>74441819
V W L
W
L
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I hope Bottas gives Hamilton some work to do this season. Vettel still within 2 seconds on mediums is bretty good tbqhfam.
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>>74441816
Well, if Bottas doesn't die from internal bleeding from such accelerations Hamilel is definitely over.
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>>74441824
Tfw Kvyat just wasn't torpedo enough for RB
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>Ricciardo jumps up to second fastest on a 1m21.153s. He's on soft Pirellis.

And on the third day Newey spoke 'Let the first sand bag be released'.
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>>74441819
Did you make this up? If not, who is Gary Anderson?
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>>74441842
Amateur F1 """""""""Journalist""""""""
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>>74441837
Think he was torpedo literally more than enough
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>I know the Mercedes has broken into the 1m19s bracket on super-softs, but watching at the fast Turn 9 right-hander the Ferrari doing 1m21s on mediums still looks the most impressive car to me. It just looks so stable and consistent.
>Gary Anderson

Just keep shoveling more coal, this train is not stopping
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So the 2017 season will be a copy of the 2015 season but 3 seconds a lap faster?
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The r/formula1 community is amazing

Just wanted to say that this sub is probably one of the most welcoming and friendly subs I've experienced on reddit.

There is of course plenty of bickering between the most seasoned of you on some of the finer points but every time someone asks a generic question which must seem so run of the mill they get an overwhelmingly positive response. It very quickly makes you feel a part of the club.

Keep it up guys/gals you are fantastic representatives for the sport
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>>74441876
>gals

lol
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>>74441881
I am a tomgirl, don't fucking oppress me
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Ultrasoft tyres dead after 5 laps

IIRC last year's didn't last a single lap in Spain
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>Vettel interviews pushed to 18.00

rude!
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>>74441886
LONDON
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>>74441897
Vettel already getting pushed around and the season hasn't even begun.
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He spun into the wall. Good start for old 'underappreciated top driver' Magnussen
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>>74441620

>mfw I photoshopped that pic years ago for a Mexican who it turned out couldn't handle bants, to use as his Facebook header image to annoy other Mexicans who he said couldn't handle bants

It's like he tried to warn me...
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>>74441876
>the most seasoned of you

Started watching in 2014
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>>74441911
>Mexicans in general
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>>74441911
Saved it in that very thread and used it on FB, too.
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>>74441897

Get the bingo ready
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Kek, Nico has lost all his neck muscles.
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>>74441922
don't have it saved m8
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>3 Palmer Renault 1m21.396s
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Judge not lest ye be judged
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>>74441931
Renault engine GOAT

REDBULLWINSLOL

MERC BTFO
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I think that's it so far
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Say one unkind thing about this man
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>>74441945
His wife isn't as pretty as you'd expect
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>>74441945
His wife ended his career. He will return to the track when their marriage breaks down. He is well off the pace in a lower tier team. His wife had been cheating on him. The kid is Hamiltons
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>>74441945
small neck
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>>74441945
funny ears
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>>74441953
Bit much but all these things could well be true desu lads
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>>74441956
one is normal
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>>74441945
I can't
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>>74441945
w2c that guy on the right's jacket?
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>>74441931
Okay so Renault was probably realistic/conservative with their 5th place WCC

>>74441945
He suddenly looks much older on this picture. Are those pockmarks on his cheeks? He has a big pimple just above one of his eyebrows
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What's her endgame?
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>>74441842
designer of one of the most beautiful F1 cars
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>>74441968
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>>74441968
GOATberg
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>>74441819
OUR YEAR LADS!
IT'S COMING HOME!
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>There's a silly rumour going around the paddock that McLaren has spoken to another power unit manufacturer for a supply of power units for this season.

>The source is allegedly Alonso which means we're in for another season of entertainment.
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$tr0₤₤ in the gravel AGAIN
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RB claims Mercedes is using an illegal oil-mix

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/verdacht-gegen-mercedes-verbotener-trick-mit-oel-im-benzin-11828316.html
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Do you reckon this testing is being streamed anywhere? Or do they not broadcast live footage of it?
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>>74441995
>McLaren get a 2016 Ferrari engine
>get beaten by Sauber
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>>74441995
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>>74441995
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>Stroll appears to have parked the Williams in the gravel. It has just been picked up by CCTV.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH BTFO AGAIN, I'm actually scared about the 'overtakes' this guy will attempt this year.
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>$troll
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>>74442021
and again a stroll back to the paddock
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>>74441995
>buy Manor
>use their pu it's anyway better than Hondas
>get cool livery as bonus for free
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>>74442030
KEK

Smedley crying right now
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>>74442030
imagine if they have call it day like yesterday

so sad
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This Stroll/Mass pairing is going to cost way more money for Williams in the WCC that the amount Stroll brings in.
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>>74442030
Pick-up cunt
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2017 hit list:
>$troll
>mclel
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>>74442027
Where is that? What turn?
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Leafs are useless at everything.
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>>74442048
The comparison to McLaren is seriously great. Both have a veteran and a rookie. But McLaren has two GOAT-tiers and Williams has two Villeneuve-tiers.
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>>74442055
Brits are useless at everything
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>>74442061
>2 WDC tier drivers
>Somehow bad
???
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> It's not completely surprising to see Stroll in the gravel again. Watching him trackside he looks OK, but isn't completely confident in the car and he keeps on fidgeting with it trying to fix the problems that aren't really there. He's correcting when the car will sort itself out, so he needs to relax a little bit and not white knuckle it. You could say he's got too tight a grasp on the steering wheel.
>The city of $troll
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-74442061
-74442070
both of these comments are b8, do not give any (you)s
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>>74442069
$troll ples if you /f1 never drive
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>>74442072
thats some Ted Kratiz-tier shit right there
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>>74441945
He didn't date mana.

He didn't even give her a pity fuck.
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>>74442070
m8, villeneuve-tier is below karthikeyan-tier...
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>>74442027
Wasn't Ron Benis rumored to buy Manor? He should have bought it and sold the engines to McLaren for a billion pounds!
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>>74441899
O O D N O O
O
D
N
O
O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGwU1EC2wg
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>>74441995
big if true
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>>74442098
Where does Nico go on that?
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>>74442098
>GOAT tier
>no Yuji Ide
I thought /sp/ was a serious board.
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>>74442126

Ebin Troll Tier

Between Great and Carbaby
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>>74441995
Dubs for Honda sent packing before Europe. Curry Tits finally gets the sack & maybe, just maybe Big Nick loses some solid weight this season
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>>74442052
Could be T5
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>>74442126
Villeneuve tier with KEKe
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>>74442138
Asking a bit much there wasn't I
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>>74442069
except making german formula 1 cars
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>>74441945
He's not actually very attractive.

If you cast more than a passing glance, he's almost ugly
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>>74442138
>Big Nick loses some solid weight this season

It was all believable until it wasn't
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>>74442145
The first part is all fine, but even meme magic can't help Big Nick
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>>74442161
Okay not true

go get glasses
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>>74442098
fixed it for you m8
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>>74441772

I've started using them to make burgers.
Shit is amazing.

>Aldi sweet chilli chicken tender
>splash of lemon juice on tender after it's cooked
>put on a buttered Coles soft dinner roll, heated and crisped in the oven
>top with Praise low fat tartare sauce (the low fat one is god tier tangy)

Then serve with a few handfuls of hot chips.

Muh dick is getting hard just thinking about it.
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>mfw McLaren 1-2 in Melbourne
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>>74442189
1st and 2nd DNF of the race?
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>>74442189
We start the count from the other end, Sven.
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>>74442189
>mclaren 1-2 in qualy
>both cars break down in the race
>this becomes a theme throughout the season
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>mfw Scarbs has started talking about how great the Ferrari is, when he previously dismissed it and said the Mercedes was on another level

Internet technical """""experts"""""
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So
How does it feel to have 18 cars in the season?
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>>74442222
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>>74442217
Literally early 80s Renault
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Ferrari splitted the S-duct
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>>74442217
>>mclaren 1-2 in qualy
>>both cars break down on the formation lap

now that would be kek worthy
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>>74442135
Ide should be right at the top with Taki Inoue, Esteban Tuero and Alex Yoong

Could make a case for Giorgio Pantano and Patrick Friesacher as well, true legends of the sport
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post F1 moments that made you cry
starting with one I think we can all agree on
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>>74442249

Cry of joy?
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>>74442249
>is that Glock?
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>>74442249
tears of happiness. I was supporting based red team in those years you goy
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>>74442249
cry of laughter, maybe
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>>74442254
>>74442264
>>74442266
that's racist
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>been having a fight with Reddit for an hour

Why does everyone there disagree with me, it's like we watch a completely different sport.
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I'm back!

I'm balder than ever!
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>>74442249
when wobbler's car caught fire in singapore 2013 and nando took him home
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>>74442249
>dat anthem combo and emotions
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>>74441942
Torro Rosso Faster than Red Bull happened for a part time yesterday. Don't know if they ended the day that way round though
Also Ferrari Running Glory Laps needs to be crossed off, they aren't that fast really
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>>74442249
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>>74442249

This was the single happiest sporting moment of my life.

Next year, the opposite
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>>74442271
>Why does everyone there disagree with me
Isn't the same as we do here?

also obligatory
>using reddit
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I wonder how much Nico is getting paid this year to do Mercedes PR shit like today.
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>>74442271
>>74441711

nobody gives a fuck about you crying about reddit

why do you even go there if it's so terrible and all it does is make you complain about it here. fuck off
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>>74442289

In all honestly probably like $15 mil
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>>74442293
this Leaf speaks the truth
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>>74441945
She's a really bad singer.
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>>74441842
bit late to the show but whatever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Anderson_(darts_player)
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>>74442313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhgYis4Bxw
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>>74442311
rude
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>>74442249
Man those tyres are fucked up.
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>Watching trackside this morning, I don't think the Renault engine is running to its full potential. In all three cars - the Red Bull, Toro Rosso and the works Renault - it sounds a bit quieter and calmer than the other engines - even the Honda. It might just be a characteristic of the engine, but I don't see what that would be as revs still make noise. That suggests there is some more to come from those teams, even just in the power unit department.
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>>74442321
come on, la
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>>74442347
"Click on all street numbers"

*Captcha fades into whiteness when clicked upon*

why does this occur
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>>74442222
But didn't he say he was optimistic about the SF70H when it came out? Also, everyone and their grandma could tell the Mercs are on another level tbhfam.
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>>74442356

>Click on all pictures that has a sandwich
>No pictures of sandwiches just hamburgers
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Ladies and Gentlemen, your best looking car of 2017!
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>still like 22 days of reading into meaningless test times before it can be settled with actual competition
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>>74442368
Where?
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>>74442367
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger

>A hamburger or burger (cheeseburger when served with a slice of cheese) is a sandwich consisting of one or more cooked patties of ground meat, usually beef, placed inside a sliced bread roll or bun.
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>>74442347
>redbull sandbagging on aero
>renault sandbagging the engine
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>>74442368

No way, it's easily one of the worst

But I will say, I do like the new sidepod vents, they look pretty cool
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>>74442371
We could have an exciting """"practice"""" race next year you goy
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>>74442388
oz gp is practically a practice race m7
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>>74442380

Really made me go hmmm...
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>>74442368
>for once it's not me spamming the truth
thanks germanbro
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>>74442368
Why did they colour drain the red?
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>>74442396
I don't think they did, might be lightning or some shit what do I know I'm not a photographer shut the fuck up
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wew
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>>74441995
>piece of jewelry
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>>74442368
gonna look even more beautiful crossing the line at singapore to win goattel the WDC
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>>74442404
Is Crazy Aero, dare I say it, back?
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>>74442098
>>74442173
hakkinen is so overrated
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>>74442222
Will it be Ferrari's year my froggy friend?
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>>74442429
nah
>>
https://twitter.com/publogic/status/836887591966420994

RIP in piece Honda.
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>>74442429
Everyone is ovverated
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>>74442429
>Hack-inen
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>>74442368

>le bionicle faec car
>>
That "Florsch is muh waifu" guy and the rest of you weebs will be happy to know she's got another drive this season. Who's going to miss 'Breakfast of Champions'

>http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2017/03/sophia-florsch-join-mucke-motorsport-2017-campaign/
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>>74442436
>>
>>74442433
Not on your life, my hindu friend!
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>>74442445

>that car
>so cute and girly

My dick is exploding
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>>74442445
>Die Gutacher
I'd perform a Gutachten on her if you lads are actually able to catch my drift, know what I'm saying?
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>>74442457
actually not at all, what's a gutachten
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>>74442451
What about my fucked up neck?
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>>74442459
An expert opinion or evaluation, can also mean medical estimate. You see, I came up with a clever joke here my leafy CETA friend.
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>>74442461

Imagine they hit the concrete barrier with this side instead of flipping it back around just in time. They'd probably be paralyzed or dead.
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>>74441672

>Sainz less likely than fucking Stroll.

Bookies are fucking sad.
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>>74442468
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>>74441672
>vettel that low

im mad
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>>74441945
He's not Finnish
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>>74442486
Why is Woody Harrelson working for Ferrari?
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>>74442371
V8 Supercars this weekend lad.
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>>74442436
That's just aggressive antilag. Nothing to worry about.
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>>74442055
They are good at hitting things with a stick on ice.
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>>74442504
ferrari hires all the GOATs m8
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>>74442504
>Next season of true detective is gonna be set in the cloak and dagger world of Formula 1
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I'm not the only one who hates Verstappen as a person right lads?
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>>74442523
spoiled little brat desu
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>>74442523

Haven't met him :^)
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Say one nice thing about this car
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>>74442531
You've seen interviews with him though right
>>
>>74442533
It won't interfere with the championship
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>>74442533
It creates jobs in Japan
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>>74442249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ReeY6Pscw

>the day the music died.

captcha: end road
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>>74442533

It might be the last one
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>>74442523
I hate the dutch fans who's first f1 race was either 2016 Spanish Grand Prix or 2016 Monaco Grand Prix and are now suddenly experts.

I don't mind amx, he isn't very interesting outside of an f1 setting but he seems to mean well and stands up for himself.
>>
>>74442533
It delivers exactly what I hoped for
>>
>>74442540
Phew, Webber almost won a WDC.

Nah but i was pretty distraught.
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>>74442396
>vettlel
>not based gimi
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Different S duct configuration for Ferrari
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It's official now: http://www.gpupdate.net/nl/f1-nieuws/350062/naam-verstappen-officieel-gewijzigd-van-ves-naar-ver/

VES will be VER

VERGNE BTFO
>>
>>74442540

>Webber deliberately turning the car back on to the track to crash in to Rosberg thinking it was (championship rival) Hamilton

Biggest cunt since Senna
>>
>>74442554
different cooling setup for merc
>>
>>74442562

Should have changed it to FRG
>Frog faced cunt
>>
>>74442562
Not AMX?

What an autist
>>
>>74442587
kek

VER is okay though, for "veering under braking like a retard"
>>
>>74442562
What if Vergne comes back?
>>
>>74442610
>VEG
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>>74442610
don't you have a right to your abbreviation only for like 2 years after you stop driving? he'll just have to take another

VGN is pretty memey
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>>74442610
JEV
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>>74442554
>>74442582

>mfw Ferrari is working on going faster, while Mercedes is working on not exploding
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>>74442614
That's Schumacher's though.
>>
>>74442623
kek
>>
>Mercedes needs purple tyres to beat Ferrari
GIMI 2017!
>>
>>74442544
Gonna have to agree here, while I'm happy that F1 is finally getting into the spotlight the amount of, as I like to call them, divegrass refugees are really obnoxious.

The lad himself is occasionally just a little overconfident which is natural considering how fast he has climbed to a top F1 team.
>>
>>74442623
too soon man
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>>74442544

t. someone who stared watching F1 when Webber got a drive
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>>74442667
that is still 15 years ago.

more than enough time to build up a decent enough knowledge of the sport.
>>
>>74442544
kek what kind of autist must you be that you are surprised about this fact

Or are you going to tell me you got into F1 because someone other than Webber or Riccy?
>>
>>74442667
I'm one of those shameless 2002 minardi band wagoners.

YA CAUGHT ME.
>>
>http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128324

F
>>
Everyone here was a entrylevel pleb at some point, I don't see why this is a issue. If anything plebs should be guided so they don't have to be plebs anymore otherwise the community can't grow.
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>>74442683
>Although Manor's parent company, Just Racing Services, ceased trading earlier this year
>Just Racing Services
>JUST
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>>74442672
Can't help that Albers, Doornbos and van der Garde were all shit.
>>
>>74442677
I live in Melbourne, I got taken to the Grand Prix several times when I was kid even though I didn't know what was going on, also my dad watches F1 so just started watching it with him.

Unlike Netherlands, Australia actually has somewhat some of an F1 past time.
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>>74442706
>I live in Melbourne
kek

KEK

K E K

>KEKTORIA
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>>74442706
>Unlike Netherlands, Australia actually has somewhat some of an F1 past time.

Zandvoort
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>>74442006
nice tactical horner, my friend. do you mind if I save that image?
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Is /f1/ the most diverse general on /sp?
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>>74442616
No, that 2 year rule is for numbers.

And I will fucking kill myself if Mick "The Dick" Schumacher takes MSC
>>
>>74442538
They won't be long-lasting jobs at this rate
>>
>>74442717
Can't wait for the 2017 Zandvoort grand prix.
>>
>>74442533
It never runs for more than 3 laps so it's good for the environment
>>
>>74441601
>Everyone here was a entrylevel pleb at some point

The problem isn't people being entry level, the problem is entry level people who have watched F1 for 10 months thinking they know more than people who starting following F1 when they were 6, more than 25 years ago.
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>>74442711
I prefer Cuckbourne
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TOOTHPASTES OUT
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>>74442711

>mfw you likely live in either north QLD, or Perth

You're not really in a position to be making fun of people's locations m8
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>>74442706
I bet your left nut you wouldn't be following it as much without Webber and Riccy

And who the fuck says F1 has never been popular here? Zandvoort GP, multiple (albeit shit) F1 drivers too and F1 was quite popular in the Schumacher era when I grew up. If you cannot understand why F1 became more popular after we got our first half-decent driver then you're even more autistic than I thought
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>be me
>bought a bag of STIX because it was a bargain (>pic related)
>tfw ate the entire bag in one sitting before I even realised

Nick would be proud
>>
>>74442720
Save it, it's all yours my friend :)
>>
hey what is the t-wing for and why is there so much fuss around it?
>>
>>74442803
It's there because it is allowed and it brings marginal improvements.

there is fuss about it because it is unexpected and new.
>>
>>74442790
I remember like the first 3 seasons I watched Mark got like 1 podium.

Don't think you can point a finger at me saying I'm a band wagoner.
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>>74442752
Lelbourne, cuckbourne, cucktoria all work.

>>74442762
>he doesn't accept that Perth is the massively superior city.
I lived in Cottesloe when I was studying at UWA before moving back to Sydney.

The golden triangle shits on anything Melbourne has to offer kek
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>>74442796
>tfw reddit killed hornerposting

i guess them getting spicelad to sign 'the picture' makes up for it tho
>>
>>74442790
>WE WAZ F1 AND SHHEEEIIT
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>>74442562
I liked VES better desu famalam
>>
>>74442790

>implying I'm not the Aussie who dislikes le smileface shoey man, and has a hate boner for Webber

I always find it funny when people who support drivers based on a shared nationality can't comprehend a person not supporting a driver on a shared nationality
>>
Vetlel's in the 1:19s
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>>74442817
lel, literally the worst part of perth filled to the brim with cunts is better than melbourne.
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>>74442835
I get hating Webber, he sat in that RedBull and did NOTHING with it.

But why do you dislike Ricciardo, is it because of drinking out of shoes thing. I agree it's annoying now but why would you dislike him because of it.
>>
>>74442795
nice snacks Darrell
>>
>Mercedes 1:19.705 on ultra softs
>Ferrari 1:19.952 on softs
>only 2 tenths slower on tyres 2 steps harder

I WANT TO BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENING
>>
Alsono btfoing haters.
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>>74442845

0.2 seconds slower with 2 tier harder tyre, are we sure Ferrari has been glory lapping for those three days?
>>
>>74442864
ITS HABBENING
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>>74442795
Those things are horse shit. They're $1.90 for a reason.
>>
>>74442795
>not getting the raspberry Stix

Shamefur dispray
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>>74442851

I just don't like his personality. He seems very fake to me.

I just dislike him though, not hate.
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>>74442889
I've met him a few times, both before and after he entered F1.

Every time he's seemed like the same dude we see being a bellend on the podium or clowning around in his garage.
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>>74442845
on the soft! VWL
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>>74442887
I'm more about the liquorice bullets.
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>>74442864
>>74442872
>Ferrari's engine is solve
>Haas is solve
>Monisha stuck with the '16 PU and finishes last every race

i'm ok with this timeline
>>
nice praxis jensen
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>>74442889
>He seems very fake to me

Yeah I know what you mean, but he always seems to be more or less the same so he either must be a crazy good method actor or he is somewhat genuine. But I see how it would wear on some people.
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>>74442876

I agree actually.

The main problem is they're made with "choc" not chocolate.
>protip: "choc" is cheap crap that contains no cocoa butter and cannot legally be sold as chocolate

But for $1.90 they're ok. Fuck ever buying them at full price though.
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>>74442864
Remember 2016 when Ferrari topped the time sheets over and over?
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reminder that hamilton hates this
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>>74442915

I think the smiley side is real, but he tries really hard to hide his competitive aggressive side.

Stuff like his "my time" screaming, calling Nico a mofo, and Kimi a cunt on the radio, really shows the side of him he tries to hide.

So to me he doesn't seem genuine.
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>>74442953
Hadn't thought about it like that, I'll keep an eye on that this season.
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>>74442731
He uses SCM in the junior formulae
>>
Gary Anderson shilling Ferrari now
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>mfw at the end of the tests merc understeer will be gone and ferrari hasn't improved compared to today
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Post F1 hype.
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1:18.339 around current Catalunya circuit with the 2008 Ferrari on slick tires
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>>74443039
>>
>>74443040
If the top teams wanted to they could pulverize that time right fucking now. If not it will be beaten in Spain Quali.
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>fresh
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>>74443039

'bout to be a /comfy/ season
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>Sebs finger wagging autism might return in 2017

Good grief ferrari
>>
Would you look at how FAT that Williams is. Another drop down the field confirmed.

https://twitter.com/tgruener?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>74442953
So is Vettel fake because he doesn't say 'honestly what are we doing here' and 'FUCK YOU CHARLIE' every chance he gets? Is Kimi fake, because he has PA that tells him what he's doing?

Most people don't act on feelings all the time. It's not a reasonable way to act. It's not fake, it's just not being a cunt.
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>>74443039

Ice cream sandwiches.
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>>74443119
Is this the most iconic picture of all F1? I say yes.
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>>74443039

/cheeky/ MWL
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>>74443097
F Williams
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>>74443119
>Alonso staring at Vettel in his /hatevettel/ era
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>>74443133
Sir F. Williams m8
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>>74443146
That's a good one. Have some fresh OC
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>>74443039

Elderly fan.
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>16:15 It looks Stroll has hit the wall.

teehee
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>16:14 RED FLAG
>16:15 It looks Stroll has hit the wall.
>>
just hit the fucking wall
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Stroll is strolling again
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>>74443094
>tfw he brings back the "WOOO! YAAAAAS! RING DING DING DING" shit when he wins again

Much rather Kimi desu
>>
>RED FLAG
>It looks Stroll has hit the wall.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>$TRO££
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>$troll
>>
I notice there's a lot of powersliding going on. And I've noticed there aren't many wheel lock ups, just powersliding.

I'm guessing that the increased grip from the larger tires is perhaps what is causing sliding as opposed to locking up? Obviously sliding is a lack of a grip, but surely sliding shows that the tyres are still *somewhat* gripping, whereas when a wheel locks up, the tyre isn't gripping the road at all.

Also I assume the drivers are pushing the cars to find the limits of grip. But still I didn't see as much sliding as this last year.

I think with the cars last year, if they slid at all, then they were likely to spin out, but these cars seem to be able to slide a bit but still be recoverable. And yes I am guessing this is a function of the increased grip. And the drivers are pushing to find the limits of said grip, which is why I keep seeing them powerslide.

Also I'm trying to think whether a wider car is more or less prone to powersliding. Part of me intuitively thinks that if the wheels are wider apart then it will be easier to recover grip if you start sliding... is that right? And if so, again, maybe that's why they're sliding so much
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>Stroll
hahahahahahahaha
>>
>Pay drivers
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Why doesn't F1 test here? I'd serve food and drink for free desu
>>
Two in a day, amazing
>>
Stroll is a fucking liability
>>
>bottas pls c-come back -claire
>>
> zero ferrari engine problems so far across any car that runs them
> putting up good times on med/soft/hard compounds
> doing many laps
> the car looks good
> trackside people saying the car looks stable af
> garage is suspiciously quiet
> different aerodynamics philosophy than Mercedes
OUR
YEAR
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>most experienced rookoie EVER since testing ban
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>>74442953
>>74443110
This. Also, he seems pretty honest about it afterwards too. He did say for example that he was annoyed by Frog and LooLoo cutting the corner in Mexico. Also somewhat defended Vettels swearing saying he does it as well.
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$ T R O £ £
T
R
O
£
£
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>>74443208
Like 3 hours apart

He might end up costing them more then Maldo did

>>74443221
As long as it's Kimi
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>stroll
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>>74443233
>what in tarnation
how the fuck has he managed to bin it there?
>>
>>74443238

Lost it on the kerb?
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>>74443077
erm excuse me, I'm calling the meme police
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>>74443233
where did you get that pic?
>>
The question is, will Stroll be the new Guttierez or will he be the new Maldonaldo?
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>>74443177
>>
>>74443244
unbelievable, jeff
>>
Can't wait to see what he will do in a race. Wouldn't surprise me if he pulled a Sage Karam at some point too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e5TlmKafMM
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This is the best abour regulations changes for this year. You can't put a fucking kid to the car anymore and have a good results. Cars from last 3 years were just too easy to drive.
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>>74443253
We'll have to make a new category above both of those men.

Stroll tier.
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>>74443262
Hope you're right and that's the cause of these Williams offroad adventures
>>
>>74443253

He's the next Yuji Ide
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>>74443268
>above
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>>74443284
JUST

all our memes are coming true its hilarious
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>>74443249

Hate to be the one to break it to you m8, but I know a fake meme when I see one...
>>
>>74443284
lol did stroll really crash it again?
>>
>>74443250

Based Tobi Gruner on twitter
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>>74443330
yes
>>
>>74443330
Yep, second time today and third time this week.
>>
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Rate my OC
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>>74443338
Must have missed the first time today/second time this week one. Any footage of it? What happened?
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>>74443322
Aaaah confirmed by digits, you sure are able of executing awesome deeds.
>>
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>>74443362
>>
Have you ever hoped really hard something would happen, and then it did.

I did that $TRO££ would be this shit.

Feels good man.
>>
>>74443362

JUST
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>>74443077
>>74443351
Fuck off german
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>>74443362
>>
>Alonso is nowhere near being able to apply the throttle through Turn 3. He has to have a big and long lift, but it's not just to get the front end to bite, it looks like a lack of overall grip.

shit chassis confirmed hahaha. mclelel btfo
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>>74443351
Nice proxy Daryl

>>74443378
t. Angry bogan
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>Alonso is nowhere near being able to apply the throttle through Turn 3. He has to have a big and long lift, but it's not just to get the front end to bite, it looks like a lack of overall grip.
>>
>>74443371
lol i assumed that he would do really will and he'd live one of those lives where he gets to be born talented and wealthy
i hope this exercise drains his fathers wallet dry and he gets kicked out of f1 once it's all gone
>>
>>74443397
>an Angry bogan on 4chin at 2:40 am

leems segit
>>
>check thread
>$tro££ did it again

based canada bringing in a new maldonaldo
>>
>>74443400
could easily just be a camber/toe or suspension setup issue, it's what testing if for tbphwy, really want Alonso to do well this year
>>
>>74443392

>>74443400

The Honda engine is literally TOO STRONG

BASED JAPAN DOES IT AGAIN

MCLAREN WCC CONFIRMED
>>
Based Inoue

https://twitter.com/takiinoue/status/836963949174194176
>>
>>74443392
>>74443400

>implying it's the car's fault
>>
>>74443378
When people use German as an insult.Well done.

TOOTHPASTES OUT
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>>74443400
McLaren built a milk carton with wheels

What if the Honda is actually a decent powerplant and Mclelren's shit tier chassis are holding it back
>>
>>74443425

E B I N
B
I
N

>mfw it's only the first test, and $TRO££ being shit is already a meme to normies
>>
Strill is easily the least likable driver
>>
>>74443444

is he worse than wehrlein?
>>
>>74443425
BASED
A
S
E
D
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>>74443415
>melbourne
it's 1:40am in best australia mate
>>
>>74442864
>what are fuel loads?
>>
>McLaren can't complain about a lack of Honda power. Alonso just can't get on the throttle properly between Turn 2 and Turn 3 because of a lack of overall grip. There's plenty more of the old gee-gees available if the chassis was stronger.

Shit chassis COMFIRMED
>>
>>74443449
He is worse than ericsson
>>
>A big jump up the order from Lewis Hamilton - seven places to be precise - as the world champion jumps into sixth with a best lap of 1:22.216.

>the world champion

Jesus Christ, either the Sky feed writer forgot that 2016 happened or that cunt that writes autism on Discus has the reins
>>
>>74443444
100 posts to go untill you can have a shot at making a thread again.

I wish you best of luck in this endavour.

Least likeable is that Russian who kept ramming into Vetlel.
>>
>>74443449
Wehrlein is very likeable in interviews.
>>
>>74443474
stop being an autist whining about who is op.
>>
>>74443474
>Least likeable is that Russian who kept ramming into Vetlel.
I find him strangely endearing desu. Partly because he kept ramming into vetlel but mostly because I felt sorry for him last year.
>>
>>74443483
https://twitter.com/dany_kvyat

Love his header pic
>>
The amount of people that just went >$troll proves the predictable, smart-ass nature of this general.
>>
>>74443510
You just did that for the bingo, admit it.
>>
>>74443474
is ok my child I trust you

you are ready to make thread
>>
>>74443498
cheeky
>>
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New rear wing for Ferrari

>tfw putting on stickers is hard
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>>74443529
>I wish our drivers were capable
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>>74443516
Probably the best chance lad :^)
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>people think this isnt the best looking car on the grid
>>
>>74443529
WDC confirmed.
>>
LAPS COMPLETED:
Bottas 75
Vettel 112
Ricciardo 67
Palmer 51
Ericsson 113
Hamilton 71
Strikk98
Alonso 64
Grosjean 43
Hulkenberg 32
Sainz 32
Celis 54
Kvyat 31
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>>74443554

>Strikk
>>
>>74443518
I have no longing for such an act.

I do appreciate your kind words and will remember this moment for the years to come.
>>
>>74443529
Look, they cut out the Santander logo behind the fin
>>
>>74443548
Because its not even the best looking Red Bull car on the grid.
>>
>>74443548
It's okay. It's one of the better looking shark fins for sure.

I think the Mercedes is the best looking.

Followed by the Sauber.
>>
>>74443362
Plebbit said this was his 3rd crash. Which was the second? I've only seen this and the spin after Campsa.
>>
Ferrari with 100+ laps every day but not. a. single. long. run.

It's the same as always, prepare for disappointment.
>>
Threadly reminder that any leaf who thinks Stroll will get any better than this is a mongoloid
>>
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>get in loser, we are taking this championship
>>
>>74443656
Spun after turn 2 this morning.
>>
>>74443682
>ywn smoke smokes with Arrivabene
>>
>>74443672

I didn't know anything about him before a few days ago and I am already ashamed of my country.

As well as his father giving money away outside of Canada.
>>
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>>74443682
I want to look like that when I'm old.

I won't.
>>
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But what does this mean?
>>
>>74443682
I'd love to see based gramps of beards and fashion to fight for the 'hip, don't believe it till I see it though
>>
>>74443596
I still think they should have kept the bodywork of the Torro d'Argento blue/silver, only using red on the wings and mirrors (and barge board). Would look even better!
>>
>>74443709
>"I wonder what's for lunch"
>>
>>74443548
>>74443596

Am i the only one who thinks these engine cover fins aren't going to cause the car trouble when cornering?

Think of it as a sail on a boat

With the speed these cars go at the effect these fins have is that the car will only want to go in a straight line and as soon as they turn a blast of air will hit it causing instability or an effect making it harder to turn the car
>>
>>74443709
>doesn't even have the new OnePlus 3T

what a fag
>>
>>74443682
fuggg ferrari is cool
>>
>>74443709
Any watchfags here? What is he wearing?
>>
>>74443731
>richberg
>owning a poordroid
>ever

lel
>>
>>74443728
I thought the same when I watched Palmer's spin and saw the shark fin flapping around just moments before he lost the rear.
>>
>>74443746
But that's not an iPhone in that pic, no?
I don't give a shit bout phones really I just typed something for the sake of it
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>>74443664
They do one long run a day. They're doing their race sim right now senpai.
>>
>>74443728
Back to /heem/ with your newfaggotry pls
>>
>>74443728
yea that air then runs along the fin and then straight into the rear wing pushing even more downforce on to the rear of the car during turning
it all evens out
>>
>>74443709

Why is Mercedes's Box after Red Bull's?
>>
>>74443761
>hue hue strikes
>>
>>74443778

nobody gives a fuck in training

Red Bull were probably the first to be there
>>
Ferrari has clearly a best car.
>>
>>74443728
>>74443749

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmMb06AYQ0s&feature=youtu.be&t=12m54s
>>
>>74443798
Question is who else has a best car.
>>
>>74443798
Did you take into consideration the magnetic burst of radiation coming from the sun? That could affect laptimes. Not to mention tectonic plate movement
>>
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>>74443740
IWC Ref. IW500917
>>
>>74443772
I know what your saying but it must still must have a big effect in conering

You can see in the picture of the STR that they have cut out a section at the back of the fin so they are obviously aware of the negative effect it has
>>
Renault teams is not showing at all. Reports say that the Renault engine is clearly the quietest because it has not been fully turned up yet like the other ones.
>Honda
>>
>>74443817
>20.000€

I don't know what I expected
>>
>>74443755
I never once seen a person on the paddock with an android
>>
>>74443826
The Sauber also has a big cut-out in their fin, and Mercedes were running today with a small fin, also with a cut-out

We might well see different fins for different races, just like we see different rear wings for different races sometimes
>>
>>74443836
Something of better taste? Yuge """pilot""" watches out of rose gold aren't my thing.

t. taste master
>>
>>74443809
>Newey: "they've now been re-allowed"

Fins were never banned.

They just weren't allowed to extend to the rear wing after 2010, to effectively ban the F-duct
Red Bull even ran a fin in 2011.

>Newey confirmed for losing it.
>>
>>74443826
It doesn't have a negative effect, it's the opposite. This year's rear wing sits lower just like it did before the 2009 rule change, so it's more vulnerable to the dirty air and any subtle change to the wind's direction. The fin stops the side winds and the dirty air from unsettling the car while cornering
>>
>>74443772
>>74443728
>>74443826
>>74443859


The fin simply makes the rear more stable in corners. See >>74443809
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This guy crashes your car while driving around the town with your girlfriend.

What do?
>>
>>74443817
>>74443873

I got myself REF# 01.650.0275.3.015 a while ago

r8?
>>
>>74443941
I fucking hate his face so much.
>>
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>>74443956
Yeah, he has that arrogant rich kid face, doesn't he?
>>
>>74443941
>Walk up to car
>Ignite leaking petrol
>Walk away
>Claim insurance
>3 birds 1 stone
>>
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>>74443941

Let him have sex with her.
>then afterwards tell him why she let him do anal
>>
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>>74443682
>you will never sit in a small cafe near fiorano knocking back espressos with mauricio and smoking marlboros
>>
https://twitter.com/F1/status/836980196238479361
>>
>>74443941
Nothing, his father will pay for it anyway.
>>
>>74443966
Exactly, the "lol my daddy has money, what you gonna do" face
>>
Who /would rather have Maldonado drive than Stroll/ here?
>>
>>74443873
How about that one vladivostok brand?

If I'd go for a watch I'd like one like those.
>>
>>74444011
I was about to point out how it seems that the official F1 twitter is bringing the bantz. Stale bantz but bantz nonetheless.

Toothpastes out.
>>
>>74443941

That face is asking for a scar bigger than money can fix.>>74443948
>>
>>74444035
i'll get back at ya after 5 races or so mememaster.
>>
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>Hello darkness, my old friend
>>
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>The Ferrari has stopped on the pit straight

THE DREAM IS OVER
>>
>>74444099
>Nothing too dramatic about that by the looks of things. Could be a fuel run, where teams deliberately run the cars out of fuel to help with calculations for when it's time to race.
>>
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>>74444099

Thanks guys, it has been a hell of a ride those 3 days
>>
>>74444113

Was actually thinking about that after I posted, but before Autosport did.

Only 5 minutes left in the day, so it makes sense.

Was still skurry tho.
>>
>>74444123
If we take Mercedes out of the equation and reject the sceneraio which will happen, definitely, an AMX WDC, in that case Raikonen will be WDC.

But most likely Vetlel.
>>
>>74443941
take a stroll instead
>>
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Rosberg spotted on test day
>>
>>74444167

I'd really like to see Kimi WDC 10 years after but if any chance happens, it will be Vettel
>>
making a new thread brb
>>
>>74444205
not sure if Vettel is emotionally stable enough to work through a full season under pressure.

not even shitposting.

And defo rooting for Kimi if Ferrari is going to get on top.
>>
>>74444253
no m8

>>74444259
>>74444259
>>74444259
>>74444259
>>74444259
New one because of hue
>>
>>74444253
remember less=more
>>
let's bump this one
>>
>>74444273

In 2010 and 2012 he managed pressure pretty well, 2011 an 2013 were extreme VWL so it doesn't matters much
>>
>>74444273
I also believe this. Wobbler never really provided much pressure, but as soon as he got replaced by Ricky, Vettel turned into a hot mess. The last 2 years in Ferrari have been pretty shaky for him, which is probably caused by Ferrari going full blown I T A L I A. But he sometimes makes dumb rookie mistakes for no real reason. I think if Ferrari has the best car by far (like MWL level) he might crack. But, I don't think Kimi bothers to play mindgames, which actually saves Vettel's chance of getting another WDC.
>>
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>>74444204
>>
aaaa hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>
GIMI WILL WIN
>>
Ferrari are the worst team in the sport
>>
Vettel 2017 WDC 2bh.
>>
If you were Alonso, would you:

>ask for 50-100 million per year from Honda for a 2 year contract extension

or

>go to Renault and hope for the best

?

Bearing in mind that Schumacher endured 3 shit years at Mercedes, declined a contract extension, retired and then Mercedes started winning almost immediately.
>>
>>74444533
I don't believe in religion or any mysticism, but I believe that whatever Alonso chooses will be the wrong choice, based on the last 10 years of his career
>>
Silly Season 2018

>Mercedes
Hamilton-Bottas

>Red Bull
Ricciardo-Verstappen

>Ferrari
Vettel-Perez

>Williams
Stroll-Massa

>Haas
Grosjean-Magnussen

>Renault
Alonso-Hulkenberg

>Force India
Ocon-Giovinazzi

>Toro Rosso
Gasly-Sainz

>Sauber
Ericsson-Leclerc

>McLaren
Vandoorne-Palmer
>>
>>74442404
does rotating the sponsors so you can read them on both sides have an effect on aerodynamics?
>>
Make a thread, a proper one. I'm not allowed to.
>>
>>74443941
jokes on him i don't have a girlfriend
>>
>>74444779

>>74444259
>>74444259
>>74444259
>>
>>74444533
>>74444565

He should go to Mercedes

Anyway, here's a question - I read that Alonso had indeed been contacted by Mercedes for the vacancy left by Rosberg and he said this:

>There were some phone calls that arrived to me but there was no point discussing anything because I was happy at McLaren
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39079883

I am guessing he is locked into some super-tight contract with McLaren which would cost him millions if he broke it? Otherwise why the FUCK would he pass up a chance to drive in a championship winning car? Is he legitimately retarded?
>>
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>>74443177
>77
>>
>>74443682
Fuck, man.

This picture is just too fucking cool for me, to be quite honest with you, family members.
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