Who is your club buying this summer? Bet it's not Griezmann.

>>74305952
Have fun with your overrated choker

>>74305963
It's Manchester United, buying overrated chokers is all they do.

Kroos neither

>>74305984
So why not go for Nerman instead of based Griezmann?

>>74305984
6 foot 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZqTKzS2aI

LOL

>>74306030
It really is like Ed Woodward just asks his wife's son who's good on FIFA and then buys them for 5x their value.

>Memechester

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>>74306030
>>74306070

>he cost us fuckin' zero

>>74306159
Have fun in the Europa league

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>>74306184

>>74306070
>who's good on FIFA and then buys

But Zlatan doesn't have 90+ pace.

I had a United supporter tell me i was racist the other day for pointing out Pogba's stats being so unbelievably bad. I'm not even kidding. When i told him he was being silly and he needed to grow up and in my view the lad was just the biggest transfer flop of all time i was then called a "murdering bastard". I work with this idiot and he's 43 years old

>>74306274
Kek.
>the biggest transfer flop of all time
That's not true though.

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>>74306030
MY SIDES this is perfect. Bookmarked

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>>74305952
>already whined about English weather and refs in radio interview
I bet he's going to be a huge success, just like the previous big money French signing.

>>74306324
>That's not true though.
it probably is though he still has time

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>>74306324
He's certainly up there. Kaka's knees exploded shortly after transfering to Madrid, Di Maria just couldn't stand Manchester and was badly managed by Van Laal. The fact alone that >pogba is the most expensive signing ever™ and performs at about one sixth or fith of the monetary value could easily makes him the worst transfer of all times, even if not the biggest flop.

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>>74306159
>spent 550 million pounds in past 4 years
>without a 35 year old who came for free, they would be below West Brom right now
A child new to Football Manager couldn't possibly fuck up this badly

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>>74306490
Is he going to come good eventually?

>>74306478

Why do you support Juventus when you're from Slovakia? You realise you're a customer, right?

>>74306468
not clueless anymore. he hired a professional now to help him. the best in the business.

>>74306599
Why is a Blackburn fan :^) so concerned about customers being bullied?

>>74306628
Well they ended up falling for the >pogba meme, not the best start exactly

>>74306561
>not good yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Wp4_JrO_Y

>slovakia

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>>74306641
>Pogba
>meme

>>74306643
>below two chances created per match
>5 assists in 35 starting appearances
>the single most fouling PL player
Check out that sweet assist against Blackburn though la!

>>74306666
>whoscored overall ratings
Already explained to you in detail why no one takes those seriously, let me get back home and find the post in archive

>>74306674
I don't take them that seriously either, but they do reflect what one only needs eyes to see, that he's singlehandedly bossing United's midfield almost every match

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>>74306668
one would think with 14000 minutes with your club's shirt, 34 goals and 43 assists from midfield, he would have earned your respect.

But I guess that (him not being there anymore) is part of the issue.

You need to let go. He still likes Juve. When next season he scores the equalizer and assists to the winner in the CL final against Juve, he'll only celebrate mildly. Promise.

>>74305952
If United have one more transfer window like the last one, they will become a top 3 team in the world.

Why pre-Mou United were so bad at transfer dealings?

Townsend
Delph
Torres

Based Rafa

>>74306752
you mean top 3 in the eplel

>>74306766
No, top 3 in the world.

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>>74306717
>singlehandedly bossing United's midfield
He's their worst midfielder actually, lmao. Even old man Carrick has been far more reliable to contribute in defence and recycle possession in the playtime he got than the Twitter flop.
>he'll come good eventually la

>>74305952
>be 6th best team in England
>play Europa League football
>sign big name player who nervously chuckles in press conference and evades question of why he chose manure
Absolute guaranteed keks.

The best part is that all the customers used to slag off Liverpool for going on about history and City for spending lots of money - yet now their club both spends lots of money and talks about history. Cos present day is a sea of sixth

Couldn't have happened to a cuntier set of cunts

>>74306633

Can you please answer my question?

I think Chelsea should sign Arturo Vidal and lure Alexis from Arsenal.

Would be pretty nice.

>>74306779
>>74306779
Good job I was sat on the toilet when I read that cos it made me piss myself laughing

>>74306752
They were bought recently. It's a recurring theme in this new age of commercial football clubs.
They might have cash, and even have very good business and marketing expertise, but if they don't understand the world of football, which is a very special world, they're going make mistakes (and be conned)
>be football agent
>meet Woodward
>"look at this youtube video: the dutch Ronaldo"
>leave the meeting with a 50M check in pocket

who knows why they bought Bastian for instance? Van Gaal lost touch? Or was he so valuable to him in Bayern that LVG decided to use his position in United to give him a golden reform and a problem for Mourinho to solve? Nobody knows, reality is that he's not at the level demanded anymore and Bayern was smart:
>don't have to take care anymore of former club legends with paychecks not related with one's performance, but with one's past
>Bastian gets the prestige of wearing United's shirt
>everybody's happy except United

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>>74306745
The best thing Pogba has ever done for Juve was getting sold. Everyone there sure misses >pogba getting carried by PirloVidal/MarchisioKhedira while amounting negative (!) possession score in the process. Luckily they got a real playmaker now, plus he single-handedly paid for Higuain.

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>>74306752
>>74306779

>>74306834
how does pogba compare to his brothers?

>>74306823
Why do you think so? If their next transfer window is similar to Baily, Pogba, Mikhitarian and Ibra, they will be a scary team.

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>>74306813
>I'm a Blackburn fan la
>totally not a seething customer

>>74306805
>>74306834
one day you'll have to explain what the hell is "possession score" and how the hell that wins matches
>Khedira
>Higuain
Say "thank you Jose"

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>>74306850
:o

>>74306859

I never claimed to be a Blackburn fan.

Now can you please answer my question?

>>74306866
hahahahaha no way

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>>74306863
Thank you >mouyes. Now that you've been sacked and based Conte took your place I finally have an English team to root for casually.

>>74306522
>78m over five years
damn, never heard of that, is it true?

>>74306866
>Florentin vs Paul
now you're just trying to provide definitive proof that your sqwaqwaqwa "score" are utter useless, aren't you?

>>74306859

>Cards for diving
>Cards for verbal

Only the most important stats are used I see.

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>>74306871
>I'm a Blackburn fan la
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/74288360/#74289736

>>74306866
fucking kek
>Pole Pogba

>>74306881
that's not the proper phrasing. You must thank Jose for providing with ready made players for Juve's midfield and attack and a ready made Premier League champion team so your loser Antonio I-don't-know-how-to-play-Champions-League-and-I-lose-to-Benfica-in-Europa-League "based" Conte can pretend he's a top manager.

>>74306908

That is not me. It may come as a shock to you but there is more than 1 person in my country that uses 4Chan.

Now can you please answer my question?

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>>74306893
>>74306892
*abuses u*

>>74306159
*Zero plus wages and a signing on fee the size of a transfer fee

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>>74306923
>totally not me la
>I'm a different guy copypasting the same post someone else kept copypasting yesterday
>Blackburn fan la
The utter state of customers these days, I swear

>>74306925
that's how you handle Liverpool's losers, they need to be roughen up a bit.
Love to see the young lad growing under Jose.

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>>74306917
>Makelele's defensive tenacity
>Vieira's box-to-box instinct
>Zidane's ball control and incisive passing
>not quite as good as Florentin Pogba yet

>>74306818
I am almost certain "we" will end up with Morata and will probably be after Nainggolan Conte seems to like him a lot.

>>74306943

There were several of us trying to ask you that question yesterday and just like today you are doing your best to avoid answering it.

I get it, you're a master troll and answering that question will expose you and lead to a reduction in your lels.

I will now choose to simply filter your country and move on. Enjoy your trolling.

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>>74306974
>several of us
>all Blackburn fans, la

>insufferable customer thread gets automatically derailed by the butthurt slavshit juventus fan

Perfect. You both deserve each other mutually.


t. lfc fan

>>74306973
>Nainggolan
This would be the perfect singing for Chelsea, in pairing with Kante the opposition is basically crippled centrally, plus Naing offers some creativity and long shooting as a bonus.

>>74306974
>filter a country because a certain poster annoys you
you're definitely ready for the internet, and particularly 4chan, lad.

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>>74306991
I only see one butthurt person in this thread, and he's a Blackburn fan.

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>>74306920
Oh I do thank him every day, just not quite for the reasons you gave.

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>tfw best run club in the world with the biggest annual revenue and there ain't shit you can do about it except suck our cocks

>>74307012

Well given that he's pretty much the only Slovakian poster I don't think it's that much of an overreaction.

>>74307027
>Zero titoli
who was managing Juve in the 2008-2010 era?
Or was that to the Roma manager? Can't remember exactly.

slovak bro is my second favorite autist on /sp/

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>>74307049
>If I close my eyes and pretend it's not happening maybe the bully will go away
Ayy. Also there's another Slovak poster ITT right now, does he deserve to be filtered too just because you're too mentally fragile to stand up for your favorite football corporation?

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>>74307082
Thanks slavbro!
>>74307045
Do you cheer for Microsoft or Tesco too?

>>74307049
>shitposting is not a way to enjoy ourselves
>showing my weaknesses is the way I'm going to win
I think you got that backwards

>>74306973
Yeah but that just doesn't sound as nice to me. This isn't FIFA career mode though.

Would those two really be the solution?

>>74307059
Ranieri was in charge for almost two seasons, the first one right after comming back from Serie B and losing vast majority of first team squad was a fairly good one, 3rd place. It's those three that followed who failed - Ferrara, Zaccheroni and Delneri.

>>74306490
No, it's not. He's been good this season and he's going to be there for seasons to come. It's not like Man Utd are going to flog him in 2018 because he's not good enough.

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>>74307144
>He's been good this season
Elaborate. It seems to be that between him, Mata, Herrera and Carrick he actually offers the least.

>>74307161
>It seems to be that between him, Mata, Herrera and Carrick he actually offers the least.
Elaborate on that.

>every customer thread devolves into slovak btfoing portuguese customer

>>74307144
hasn't been 95 million squids good or anywhere near it

>>74307045
could be above you in the table how about that

>>74307124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ubjjNFWa4

Nice era..

>>74307189

>Inb4 he pulls out his stats on time spent drinking water, times each player has spat during a match and number of studs per boot

probably someone who can't make 1st team championship football, come on burnley !!

>>74307198
Who cares about price? If Man Utd bought Messi for £2b would you say he was bad because he only scored 45 goals that season?

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>>74307189
--> >>74306805
>Mata is clearly superior at everything related to attack and creativity
>Herrera has better workrate, wins more tackles (while fouling less) and is even slightly more likely to provide an assist
>Carrick makes more interceptions (better positioning), is more effective in his duels, doesn't get dispossed and passes accurately to more creative players
>Pogba....

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>>74307102
>I don't look at my own backyard
>it's OK when we do it

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>>74307209
>stats don't matter la jus WATCH him play

>>74307223
>clearly
It seems like you're emphasizing because you don't have the confidence of what you say.

>>74307223
>players in different positions have different specialties
>only with Pogba on the pitch can one of those specialists absence go unnoticed.
Ok, you're right.

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>>74307226
Kek, the part where I get to post my /customer/ collection is my favorite bit.
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/74287317/#74288784

I'll be back in two hours by the way, keep the thread alive >mouyesbro.

>>74307230
>23 titles with 6 different teams don't matter la
>he doesn't know what he's doing, picking Pogba as a key player is falling for a meme la

>>74307253
will do

>>74307222
price has always been a measuring stick for a players ability. pogba's simply not good enough, and you can leave out your silly bollocks scenarios about messi and 2bn

>>74307223
Pogba is better aerially, his switches of play are better than Carrick and his passes over the top are unique in this team.

>>74307286
>silly bollocks scenarios
You're not a smart person, are you?

>>74307311
if living in an imaginary world where manu buy messi for 2bn is being smart then no

>>74307117
I am not really sold on Morata but, I think he would be a better second option than Michy.

I don't watch much Serie A but, from what Roma matches I have seen Nainggolan would be a fantastic signing like >>74307005 said.


But of course this is based on media reports throughout the year so it could all be bullshit.

>>74307332
Are you working class, perchance?

>>74307345
jesus you're really grasping now. posho neet if you really care

>>74307365
The fact that it wouldn't happen is irrelevant. If you wouldn't judge Messi based on given exorbitant price then you shouldn't judge Pogba. If Pogba plays like one of the best midfielders in the PL then you shouldn't call him a flop based on his price.

>>74306554
Hey slovak, did you rate pogba when he played for jeep?

>>74307406
when he plays like one of the best midefielders in the premier league i won't call him a flop based on his transfer fee. problem is he isn't

You are now manager of Manchester United.

You can either:
>make 3 reasonable transfers
or
>make 1 outrageous transfer

What move(s) do you make to Make United Great Again?

>>74307429
Right but it's because he's not playing that well (in your opinion) not because of the transfer fee. In Torres had scored 25-30 goals a season no-one would have called him a flop, although arguably £50m should have bought you more than that.

Madrid will break the record transfer again it's election year it's a 4 year cycle

>>74306554
>without your goal scorer you wouldn't score so many goals

I'm not sure who Celtic will sign with their £40 million windfall they get from Dembele.

Good thread OP.

Saved rare Pepe

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>>74307291
>better aerially, his switches of play are better
>105 million for the play-switchig Fellaini

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>>74307268
Happened to Ferguson too (meme midfielders like Anderson, Veron, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba), and the corpse of Mourinho that is in charge of Manure currently hardly compares to Ferguson at the time of mentioned flop purchases
>>74307241
I forgot that we've already established is an elite jack of all trades - ever so tenacious in defence, constant offensive threat and all of that while covering for "specialist" partners
kek

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>>74308341
Manure are the second most player-reliant team in the whole league, Ibrahimovic's 15 goals and 4 assists are 50% of their total PL tally. Only Moyes' Sunderland are ahead in this regard, with Defoe being responsible for 58% of their goals.
>mouyes - literally fancy, foreign moyes
>spent 550 million in 4 years on a team that is Stoke tier without grandpa Zlatan bailing them out
>mfw

>>74307419
Lets say I wasn't so eager to point out what a fraud he is

>>74308998
Fergie was good, but not even close to Mourinho's level atm. He made mistakes (even Mourinho brought Altintop to Madrid, he hardly played though, as soon as his level was clear). Mourinho is not making them anymore.
this last few seasons top level management level was elevated, once again by Mourinho. now everybody else KNOWS that to keep up with Mourinho, they need to step up and start producing perfect record transfer windows.

Conte's fake hair is already greying of the prospect of replacing Costa next season. Like I said before he'd be wise to take over Italy again next season, or go some place where he doesn't need to pretend he knows what he's doing.
>elite jack of all trades
the proper name is midfield boss

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>>74309166
>mouyes
>6th (sixth)
I don't think Chelsea fans should be worried about the next season, Abramovic will most likely be delighted with Conte's work and give him handsome transfer budget. He assembled the team that brought Juve back to the top, and he's doing the same with Chelsea now.
Meanwhile >mouyes will splash over 80 million on Greaseman, praying he doesn't flop like >pogba did. What a joyous future for customers

thank you based slav for saving this shit thread

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>>74309360
Cheers

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great reading, the thinking of Juventus fans (slovakians and otherwise) over Pogba

http://www.juventuz.com/threads/34761-Paul-Pogba

don't think I'd ever seen a 2230 page thread in a forum before.
>we don't like him anymore, we just like to express it very often

>>74309317

> handsome transfer budget.
I know that's not a problem, the problem is what to do with it.
>he's doing the same with Chelsea now.
kek, mouriho's team + whoMoses + previously Mourinho's Abramovich Konte request.
I won't say he'll destroy it, he'll administrate it while he can. He won't be able to cope with CL and with replacing key players if they leave or stop performing.

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>tfw your club looks forward to success, not its next purchase

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>>74309507
If you want real entertainment, head over to Manure's RedCafe forum. The Flip customer loves to copypaste content from there when he wants to pretend who has any knowledge of football, it's great.
>what to do with it
Get Nainggolan for example, as discussed earlier ITT. That purchase alone with what they already have will provide enough midfield depth for added European competition. Conte (with Marotta's assistance) previously got world class talents like Vidal, Bonucci, Barzagli for peanuts and Pirlo for free, I doubt he'll make bad transfer decision now at Chelsea. He already has one of (if not THE) best recent deals in Kante.
The comedy duo of >mouyes and Woodward on the other hand are still recovering from the robbery Juve pulled on them.

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>>74309669
>tfw your club looks forward to trademarked Twitter emojis, not CL qualification

>>74309317
>Juve back to the top
>Allegri wins the same national titles
>Allegri reaches CL final and battles shoulder to shoulder with Bayern Munich (great match btw, shame those last 10 minutes)
>Allegri does not lose with memeFica in Europa league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84xFHc43YT8
>Conte, back to the top
>top

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>>74309851
With all due respect to Allegri, he only continued in what Conte built - same players, same formation, same playstyle. Especially in his first year. It's exactly the opposite of what Conte is doing at Chelsea, where he had to completely overhaul the tactics and instill new mentality to get rid of the lingering >mouyes stench.

how do you fucks not get bored of arguing about the same thing every day holy shit

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>>74309780
>Serie A 2010, same demand as Premier League 2017
Nope, sorry

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>>74309977
>muh team building.
Sorry, that argument only works when you don't improve your predecessor's results like in the Mourinho-Conte or Heynkes-Guardiola case.
The same is not the case with Conte-Allegri

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>>74310041
>Premier League 2017
Correct, Conte set the bar so high that washed up has-been >mouyes simply can't keep up.

>>74310586
>Conte set the bar so high
>set the bar so high
>exactly the same level as Mourinho in 2015, and Conte hasn't crossed the line yet (even tho one expects him to do so, not even Antonio penalty-Zaza Conte can do that)
>high

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>>74310457
Not even sure what you're attempting to communicate there. Conte took struggling Juve that finished 7th previous season and molded them into dominating force immediately. Conte took abhorrent Chelsea that finished 10th previous season (only thanks to Hiddink's damage control) and after throwing >mouyes' tactics out of the window turned them into dominating force.
Manure finished 5th previous season. Now with >mouyes they're 6th (sixth).

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>>74310696
>2015
Right, that was the last time we've seen Mourinho in action, and although the football Chelsea play now is far more active, discussed before already, result-wise it's similiar. There's little of that man left, he's >mouyes now.

>>74310757
>that finished 10th previous season
and 1st (first) the previous one.
>But in slovakia people learn how to do things, then unlearn it immediately the next year, then misteriously learn it again the following year, and we actually believe the learning process is that strange.
Ok, but that's not how it works in the normal world.

>>74310914
he's the same chaming, intelligent man he always was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDqr_Jev3k8

Face it. Even when Conte is fired midseason next season, it happens to everybody in that club, it's how they function. There's only one manager that survived more than 2 seasons in the Abramovich period. He did twice, but still, it was the same man.

so Conte has nothing to worry about, he's still Italy manager material afterwards

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>>74310915
16th (sixteenth) at the time he was sacked. Just now realized that >mouyes actually managed to pull a '17 Leicester before Ranieri did, lmao. Except the circumstances (player quality, expectations, budgets) are a bit different.
>then unlearn it immediately the next year
"Not forgetting" what you know isn't nearly enough in football management, you have to keep up with tactical developments and progress. This is exactly the cause of >mouyes' fall from grace, the busted and bitter man is too arrogant to evolve. He's outdated, exposed, not threatening to anyone. How many wins against top 5 teams does he have with Manure, one or two?

>>74310914
>>74310757
Slovakian Juve fan obsessed with Man Utd. Sad!

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>>74311006
I bet Abramovic, the entire squad, Chelsea staff and fans can't wait for Conte to get fired. They'd much prefer the cancerous Portugese dinosaur.

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>>74311180
They've been in a sad state for a while now, agreed

>>74311119
Won Tottenham and City, draws with Liverpool and Arsenal, more positive than negative. team building takes time particularly picking up a midlevel team that was the joke in the transfer business and everybody was taking advantage of them, surviving basically on the weight of history and lucky results with an incongruent style of play that bored its own fans.

Anyone following this United knows what's brewing there.

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>>74311208
it happens very quickly. just don't take it personally. Italy national job is a good job...

>>74305952
Shout out to pepe, you a good meme, just wanna show you some love pepe

>>74311119
>you have to keep up with tactical developments and progress
>three man defence, something new
kek. face it. hazard doesn't want to defend and to cope with it Conte has to compensate. Hazard's bithyness and lazyness

It's a different management style to give in to the big stars wishes or not, I just prefer Mourinho's style, to take everything he can from his players, and his assessment and that Hazard's attacking contribution was not big enough to excuse him totally from defensive duties. Conte prefers to suck Hazard's dick, i get it.

We'll see who takes the big cup in the end.

>>74306020
Nerman already has two league titles and a treble. And he was actually useful and important for the treble season

>>74311542
>Hazard's bithyness and lazyness cost Chelsea an extra 50M to purchase David Luiz to add to the costs of the previous wrecked season.

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>>74311255
>City
Cup game where Guardiola fielded several reserve players, in league >mouyes lost. At home. That makes it 1W, 3 D, 2 L - bottom of top 6 and worse record than Everton lmao!
>implications of progress
Except they're at the some position, and after the Pogba deal they're more of a transfer joke than ever before.
>>74311281
It doesn't happen at all, actually. There isn't a similiar case of such spectacular managerial failure like >mouyes pulled in 15/16 anywhere in top 5 leagues in recent memory.

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>>74311542
If you weren't such a football casual, you'd know that it was Conte who brought three at the back systems back to mainstream. When he tried to use the remnants of >mouyes prehistorical cancer tactics, results were bad. As soon as he switched to his own philosophy, Chelsea are steamrolling the league.
>Hazard doesn't contribute defensively
Maybe under >mouyes he didn't, the whole team crumbled under his reign. How come he has higher defensive score than Pogba now?

>>74306643
FUCKING BLACKBURN

LAST IN THE SECOND DIVISION

>>74312226
>It doesn't happen at all, actually
kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chelsea_F.C._managers
Mourinho is there twice, and both stints are the longest in the Abra era. Let that sink in for a minute
> in league
>it's the a club only has league aspirations meme
I'm sorry, we're talking about different things. Some managers and some clubs see it differently. Everything is up for grabs
>city, mouyes lost
Refball, penalty against Rooney 2-2, different ball game in 2nd half. Either way, like I said it's only starting now. This season the cups and europa league, next season league and the big one with ears are the targets.
>Except they're at the some position
building, building. remember that it takes time, and with 2 or 3 quality summer signings plus the game quality they've been already presenting there's nothing the FA can do about a team totally dominating matches, regardless of the spite they have with the manager
>Conte who brought three at the back systems back to mainstream
then it's not something new, is it?
>How come he has higher defensive score than Pogba now?
Slovakian sites have no credibility. All I need is to watch matches to know for a fact Hazard does not follow the full back to his own half. Under Mourinho he had to.

>Mourinho's Champions League: 2
>Hazard + Conte's CL: 0
takes work to win the big one.

Regarding systems, you need to understand something about basic logic.
>Same team, with different tactics wins league.

What follows logically is that the reason for victory is the team, not the tactics, because they won it twice with the different tactics.

>slovak destroying customers 24/7

ABU and proud blud

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>I win millions as an athlete but I wasn't in the mood to stay fit last season
>I'm a good investment to your football club

Mourinho tried to save him, but since Eden won the battle, I think this mentality will bite Chelsea's and Conte's ass soon enough

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>>74312590
You mean getting sacked from Chelsea? Yeah, that does happen easily. Being four points off the relegation zone as the reigning champions by Christmas? It takes a Special One to achieve that :^)
>Some managers and some clubs see it differently. Everything is up for grabs
What is that even supposed to mean? Manure are inferior to every team above them based on mutual results, and even inferior to team below them. They're 6th only thanks to Ibrahimovic scoring against mid/lower table, the old Swede is trying his best to cover up >mouyes complete tactical ineptitude.
>Refball
Kek
>This season the cups
Yeah, I bet the expectations Manure Corp. headquarters had in pre-season were getting the famed League Cup, who cares about getting to Top4...
>then it's not something new
No formation or approach is new, do you think Guardiola invented tiki-taka or that >mouyes has 4-2-3-1 patented? No relevant clubs were using 3-5-2 at the time Conte started having success with it, and even now he modified it to 3-4-3 to suit Chelsea.
>All I need is to watch matches
Apologies, but when someone who previously stated that "tactics don't matter, every manager knows them" watches a match, it doesn't mean he actually understood a thing he just witnessed on more than just the most basic superficial level.

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>>74312680
ABU brothers always prevail

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>>74312659

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>>74312733
From the same interview
>"“Last season everyone knows I was not good enough," Hazard said. "So I started this season well – fit, with no injuries and it is better to play when you are ready. It is always a difficult to come back after a bad season, but the boss changed something and tried to give us more confidence.”
You didn't even bother to read the article, did you

Laporte and Rafhina

>>74312801
>What is that even supposed to mean?
it means you're trying to exclude non-league results and that's not how it works. Mourinho's United beat City in their first non-refball match. That's a fact.
> thanks to Ibrahimovic
Mourinho's signing, for some reason he was offered a better contract even than Pogba. Mourinho takes the credit, so stop trying to pretend it's not Mourinho
> tactical ineptitude
nonsense, best dominating team in the league. Meme clubs in front of them in the league can thank refs for their points and for United for having 10 less than they should
>Kek
Exactly, it's funny. But ask a Chelsea fan, if they are not more pleased with ref's performances this season. It won't matter next season, he's preparing something special where refs would have to basically point to the penalty mark if the ball passes United's midfield, for them to lose points.
>who cares about getting to Top4.
that's part of the plan too. + Europa league + FA Cup + tasty Conte FA Cup elimination
>No formation or approach is new
that's what I said, you were saying Mourinho had to keep up with "new developments". Nonsense.
>Apologies
I know enough to see Hazard doesn't defend. and that Conte bought an extra central defender just for that reason. It's basic tactics to compensate your winger not following the full-back. to avoid 2v1 you need an extra CB to pair with the so-called "wing-back". it's not hard to get this.

>>74312733
he's always come across as a lazy bastard

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Manure is shit see you in the UCL Semifinal Jeep FC

>>74312886
>player says his current manager does things
come on.

the point is that he (and others) didn't bother to be fit the previous season.

that reflects poorly on his professionalism, not his manager. And like it was previously stated, people don't change. He'll do it again when he feels like. Hopefully Conte still has his job so we can enjoy him struggling.

>tfw your club is too poor to have a megastore
>tfw when the club shop is dinted shipping container

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>>74312975
Your "supposed" refball never happened, and Guardiola obviously threw the match starting several literally-whos, because he has more important stuff to focus on than a fucking League Cup. Refs are actually helping Manure any way they can (three blatant red cards not given, seven off-side goals allowed) to appease the Asian PL market, but they're just so shitty it's not enough.
>Mourinho's signing
A good one, >mouyes delayed the embarrassment of being 8th-10th without him.
>Mourinho had to keep up with "new developments"
Obviously, and he failed at that. New developments doesn't mean comming up with a new formation, but plenty of subtleties like individual player duties, marking, build-up play, adapting to counter opposition's strenghts etc. Seriously, do you think real football is like FIFA video game?

However
>best dominating team in the league
>he's preparing something special where refs would have to basically point to the penalty mark if the ball passes United's midfield
>Conte bought an extra central defender just for that reason
>It's basic tactics to compensate your winger not following the full-back
A casual /sp/ lurker might have actually considered this a legitimate discussion up to this point, but you've really earned the bait.jpg now.

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>>74313004
That's exactly the joke, you've just found the headline, posted it as a proof and didn't read interview itself where Hazard explicitely states he realizes how shitty he was, but is now motivated thanks to Conte. The opposite of what you wanted to achieve there lmao

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>>74313000 (Checked)

>>74312886
>well – fit, with no injuries and it is better to play when you are ready
>I'm a pussy, and there's no Mourinho in the world that's going to change that. I prefer Conte so I can play when I feel like.
He's not saying anything we don't already know. Unfortunately football is a sport for men. His potential could take him far, but it won't. He'll always be the talented kid that never left the meme London club where rich faggots can pretend they are men.
>>74313115
you're not following me. Read this post.
Hazard saying "this manager really motivates me and he's really good blablabla" is the new meme. It's a consequence of players saying that for Mourinho and really mean it.

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>>74313014
>tfw you're a white, traditional hard-working /lifelong/ middle class man supporting your father's team
>tfw the club doesn't give a fuck and tweets cheering pooinloos instead
https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/807963923957678080

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>>74313088
>never happened,
kek

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>>74313173
>Hazard reaches his peak performances under Conte
>somehow it's >mouyes who was managing him well, and Conte ruining him

I, for one, can't wait for the ABU tears next season when we win the league and make a deep run in the champions league.

>>74313088
>seven off-side goals allowed
>seven
kek
one Miki goal when result is 2-0 minus one Zlatan clearly no-foul goal when result is 0-0 = 7 offside goals

>>74313208
>his peak performance
He's playing 1 match a week, and being worse than in 13/14 and 14/15 when playing twice a week and scoring and assisting more often

>>74313088
>but you've really earned the bait.jpg now.
saved

>>74313206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhGx2hCKS2Y
50/50 challenge, both sliding in for the ball, Bravo got it first. No excessive force, not from behind or side - FIFA Rulebook under Law 12. Absolutely nothing wrong here. If you want to see blatant refball, look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0B_NDpzFLM

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>>74313225
Really?

>>74313088
>but plenty of subtleties like individual player duties, marking, build-up play, adapting to counter opposition's strenghts etc.
point to a manager that won trophies in 6 different teams (last one just CS, but he just started), league titles in 5 (the sixth will be next season) and is not paying attention to subtleties. Mourinho had a bad season because some of his players were pussies and lack professionalism. turns out it suited him fine because now he's at a proper club that needs a Savior, decision he wouldn't make because he had emotional attachment to the previous "club"

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>>74313246

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>>74313317
Why doesn't some big club recall Arrigo Sacchi back from retirement? Perhaps because he's out of touch with the modern game, but hey, give Sacchi Ibrahimovic and I bet he wouldn't do worse than >mouyes now.

>>74313277
>Video name: Bravo crazy tackle in Rooney
>goes to his legs
>not dangerous and doesn't knock him over, no pen, no red card.
>Feghouli
that seems like a bad decision, genuine ball dispute. Even though Feghouli hits Jones, I wouldn't send him off. Not the case with Bravo though. But let's stop pretending Feghouli is a real player and can provide danger to a goal, please.

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>>74313395
>Video name: Bravo crazy tackle in Rooney
Yeah, I wonder why a customer would upload a butthurt video with such audiotrack and name it so. According to official Lawbook, the ref's decision is completely legitimate.
>goes to his legs
Went for the ball, Rooney slided in the same way but was too late. Not excessive force, it's from front, one leg, got ball first. Would be refball if penalty was called

>>74313390
Mourinho is special, I don't see him getting out of touch. If he feels he can't do it, he'll resign the next day, I'm pretty sure of that.

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>>74313463
>mouyes

>>74313490
>Sacked in the morning
>Hired a few months later for 15M per season (new contract is expected to be 20M, but that's my personal bet)
>his publicity earnings still going up every year that passes
>Sachi
>slovakian football

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>>74313530
Kek, alright then. Goodnight >mouyesbro

>>74313582
night slavbro. wednesday afternoon, new battle.