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NYY: Yankees sign Jon Niese to minor league deal
BAL: Orioles acquire Vidal Nuno from Dodgers
NYM: Mets continue extension walks with Walker
LAD: 41-year-old Eric Gagne considering comeback
NYM: Zack Wheeler (elbow) throws bullpen session
SD: Padres make Jered Weaver signing official
ARZ: D'Backs ink Jorge De La Rosa to minors deal
TOR: Donaldson (calf) expected to miss 2-3 weeks
NYM: David Wright (neck) plays catch indoors Sun.
COL: Black wants Charlie Blackmon to run more
CLE: Cody Allen to continue closing for Cleveland
NYY: Betances calls Levine's comments 'unfair'
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Royals
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In b4 Mariners anime guy and Royals guy
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>>74295680
>In b4 Mariners anime guy and Royals guy
you'd be surprise
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>>74295677
>>74295680
Damn
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Jints
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>>74295627
Playoff bonus might get you another $300k. $800k is not lifechanging money, though it's certainly a nice chunk of cash. $10 mil though will let you live on interest.
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>>74295650

NLC is easily the best division based on park ratings.

Busch and PNC are 1-2, or 2-1 then all the others can easily fit in the top 10.
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Cardinals classiest fans in sport's
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Windians
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>>74295783
Wrigley is not a top 30 MLB stadium
>b-b-but it's old!!!
>m-muh rooftop ads!
>muh wall weeds!
>muh piss troughs!
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Nats desu senpai
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NL should get rid of batting pitchers and adopt the DH to be desu
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>>74295680
Mariners!
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>>74295872
>viewing baseball
>with no head
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Fenway
Wrigley
Oakland Colosseum
AT&T park
Tropicana Field
All of these should be blown up
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Kershaws desu
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>>74295920

>tropicana

Spend a sunny day in florida in a place that could be the setting of a scooby doo episode
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>>74295962
That's his little corner for the postseason when he turns into a chud
He's peekin out though and that's cute
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>Bryce Harper
>Gary Sanchez
>Aaron Judge
>Greg Bird
>A Chap
>Tanaka

Who the fuck will stop the Yankees from winning it all in 2018?
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>>74296081
Randy Levine
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>>74296081
>Aaron Judge
Already a bust
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>>74296081
>A Chap
which chap?
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>>74295833
Respecting those doubles
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http://www.csnbayarea.com/athletics/slugger-khris-davis-bows-out-world-baseball-classic

Jesus what can save the WBC?
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>>74296290
i can
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>>74295783
you can't even handle this level of comfy...
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>>74295920
>no gruntled rate
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>Ryu says he's back
I love the guy, but over/under on innings before he's pulled and done for the year is 0.2
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>>74295783
Wrigley disqualifies NLC from top 5 ballpark division contention
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>>74296108
Based Ranjew told Betances' homeboy "agent" off lol.
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11 > 3
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AL > NL
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>>74296133
he's just young.
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>>74295650
Is there a more polarized division is mlb?
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>12:55 Guest: Guess I’m out of the loop but why exactly are you in favor of DH in the National League?
>12:56 Dave Cameron: Watching pitcher’s strike out or bunt guys over is the worst part of baseball.
>1:02 Josiah: “Watching pitchers strike out or bunt guys over is the worst part of baseball”? How many at bats is that a game, 4-5? NL is far superior because of strategy of double switching and needing a deep bench.
>1:02 Dave Cameron: Yeah, it just takes so much strategy to make a by-the-books double-switch.

wtf I love fangraphs now
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>>74296877
In the mlb*
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>>74296877
Since there are only two teams with fans it's basically the NL west
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What can be done if anything?
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>>74296921
Pretty much. Reds fans don't exist anywhere except /sp/, and they're mostly just fans of other teams LARPing as reds fans to piss off tardinals fans
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>>74296956
Winning team gets HFA
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>>74296963
I live a half hour from Cleveland and saw someone with a Reds hat the other day. It was really odd
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>>74296921
>Since there are only two teams with fans it's basically the NL west

Also the AL East
Also the NL East

Only the AL Central (3 teams) and AL West (1 team) have a different number of teams with fans
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>>74297178
AL east is pretty well represented aside from rays i think
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>>74297178
>AL East
Blue Gays (bandwagon, but still)
Sox, Yanks and Snorioles are all historic teams
> NL East
Mets?
Barfs?
Miami?
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What were you doing when Betances let his agent screw him out of $500k and tricked him into thinking it was the management's fault?
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>>74297327
>orioles
>Jays
>having fans

If they count, then the reds and brewers count.

I could borderline give you the Jays since they have all of Canada to draw from, but the orioles lolno.

TEAMS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE SIZEABLE FANBASES/ARE RELEVANT (not necessarily good):

NL WEST
Dodgers
Giants

AL WEST
>Rags

NL CENTRAL
Cardinals
Cubs

AL CENTRAL
Indians
Royals
Tigers

NL EAST
Braves
Phillies

AL EAST
Yankees
Red Sox
Borderline: Jays
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>>74297452
The Jays are reddits team.
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>>74297470
>The Jays are reddits team.

And I care what reddit thinks because...?
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>>74296963
Columbus has a pretty high concentration of Reds fans, same with southern Indiana and most of Kentucky. You'd think all of southern Ohio would be Reds fans, but it's more of an east/west thing.

Northeast Ohio
>Indians
Southeast Ohio
>Indians
>Pirates
Southwest Ohio
>Reds
Northwest Ohio
>Reds
>Tigers
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>>74297452
The mets have always have decent attendance
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>>74297533
>same with southern Indiana

I grew up in Evansville and this is patently wrong. It's cardinals territory in south Indiana except for maybe if you're within 30 miles of the Ohio border.
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>>74297515
Because we're anti-reddit
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>>74297571
If you aren't even the most liked team in your city, you don't get to be relevant. Sorry.

For what it's worth you guys are definitely ahead of the other "second banana" teams, though (A's, Angels, whos)
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>>74297571
>>74297452
Damn i just looked up some numbers. Not as high i thought but still middle of the pack basically...
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>>74297613
>you
I'm not a mets fan buddy
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>>74297452
>Braves and Phillies
>sizeable fanbases/are relevant
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Dont the Sewers place in the top 10 stadium attendances every year or has that dropped off since theyre back in the basement again?
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>>74297691
Philly fans are always loyal (except 76ers), even if they are trashy as fuck.

I travel a lot for my job and I see more braves hats across the country than any other hat except for the Yankees, of course.

Probably has to do with ted turner/national broadcasts of braves games back in the day, not unlike the Cubs and WGN.
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>>74297784
Bandwagons dont count you fucking retard.
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>>74297760
Assuming Sewers is Brewers, it's probably because the cardinals and Cubs travel really well so they get huge boosts from fanbases of actual teams visiting ~15-20 times a year.
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>>74297579
I worked right outside Evansville (Rockport Plant) for a few months. I can say that a majority of people I encountered were Reds fans with only a smaller portion being Cardinals fans. Evansville is decent BTW. Stayed at the Value Place. Some crazy chick strung out on heroin was always hanging around the laundry room trying to find military guys to fuck.
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>>74297824
They do when discussing how big a fanbase is.

I hate bandwagoners too, but you're deluded to think they aren't a significant part of several teams' fanbases and/or national relevance and brand name recognition.
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>>74297850
>I worked right outside Evansville (Rockport Plant) for a few months. I can say that a majority of people I encountered were Reds fans with only a smaller portion being Cardinals fans.
My experience was the opposite but I guess that just means the anecdotes cancel out.


>Evansville is decent BTW.
It's shit, that's why I left

>Stayed at the Value Place. Some crazy chick strung out on heroin was always hanging around the laundry room trying to find military guys to fuck.
Switch it to meth and that's 50% of Evansville women
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>its a national league game
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>>74297833
Im looking for hard data not asspulls thanks champ.
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>YFW it's an interleauge game and the baby league has to send their pitcher out to bat and he forgets he has to bat
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pb69guZQIk

The Who continues to be an embarrassment to Chicago.
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>>74297868
>they are when discussing how big a fanbase is

No they actually dont. You must bandwagon yourself to delude yourself into thinking so mentally ill.
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>>74298216
Wot..
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>>74298212
>he missed the Indians pitchers in the Eries
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>>74298345
>Doing better than your baby league position.
That was all the more proof they need to ax the DH.
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>>74298216
Off of your argument, the diamondbacks have a bigger fanbase than the cardinals since Phoenix is a much larger city than St. Louis.
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>>74298376
If there were no DH (and refs were better, different argument for a different time) the Cubs would have lost
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>>74298503
>refs
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>>74296081
The Cubs.
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who else worried about reds trades this year with spring training coming up in less than six(6) days? Joey Fatso is the only decent player on the team and he can't carry anything except another meatball sub
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>>74298503
>refs
Fuck, sorry, umps
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Friendly reminder, fuckers
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>>74298503
>would have
Get your alternative facts out of this thread and have your baby league actually have your roided up lard asses contribute to the fielding than only going to get hits.

Pinch hitters exist for a reason and it makes things all the more strategic.
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>>74298587
The Cubs won because of the DH and you know it. Well, they won because of shitty umping in game 5, but post that they won only because they had Schwarber play the position they so conveniently forgot to play pitcher at
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>The Yankees are poised to sign left-hander Jon Niese to a minor league contract, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports. The deal will become official when Niese passes a physical.
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>>74298587
Also >our DH did play in left in game 3. Did you miss that?
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>>74298655
Wrong, they won game 5 fair and squad (go ahead and whine about bad calls that didn't happen. Your asses got rocked.)

>>74298683
>Can't even Green text properly
I'm just laughing at your rage that the Indians got completely outplayed by a superior Cubs team.
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>>74298741
>bad calls that didn't happen.
Right, like that ball that was in the other batters' box called for a strike. That's right, that didn't happen and cause an IESO when it should have been a walk with one of >our strongest batters coming up, I'm just making that up. The umps totally didn't start sucking Chapman's pene cubano y largo as soon as he got on the mound, giving him a huge strike zone and shrinking the Tribe's noticably. I'm making that up
Also, get with the time, grandpa. It's a fucking meme you dip
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>>74298571
>traded away Brandon Phillips for literal who
>arroyo not even committed yet
>homer bailey on injured list
>Bailey 30 years old, Arroyo 39 years old, Votto 33 years old
>not signing or training talent, no scouting for good team members
fuck the Reds cincinnati is shit it pisses me off whenever I'm dragged to one of their games because it's almost always a shitty game where the reds get BTFO
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Imagine if the Indians nab, say, McCutchen at the deadline (or before, doesn't matter to me), does that pretty much round out, well, everything with them? The only real weakness (except maybe offense at C) is the outfield right now because of the whole Brantley thing
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>>74298839
you uh, want bruce back? we can pretend it never happened...
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>>74298874
no, that was one(1) of Cincinnati's few good coaching and roster choices made in the past 20 years
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>>74298930
>mfw getting fleeced by the resd
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>>74298820
>giving him a huge strike zone and shrinking the Tribe's noticably. I'm making that up
Also, get with the time, grandpa. It's a fucking meme you dip
You are, now start citing your incredibly biased websites with fake statistics to 'prove' you're right.
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>>74298655

I fucking hate the cubs but you guys blew it. You had a chance to save the Ottomans, and devastate the lifelong cub fans since october 2016 and you choked it away. Just one more goddamn game, and we could have had another full year of ottoman posting and pilates memes Sad.
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>>74298741
>superior Cubs team
>dropped 2 of 3 at home employing """superior""" NL """strategy"""
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>>74298950
Watch the fucking game. I did. With my own eyes. It's kind of hard to miss.
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>>74299022
>As if you expect me to believe your lying eyes. Nice try Chief Wacko.
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>>74298858
Offense at C isn't necessarily a problem if Yan Gomes can stay healthy. He's got 20 homer power and can hit .270 and up, he just hasn't been healthy
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>>74299050
To be fair I saw it on the scoreboard at Progressive, which is a kind of big screen to watch it on
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>>74298741
>the Indians got completely outplayed by a superior Cubs team.
Let me ask you a question Lifelong Cubes Fan Since November 4th 2016: Why did it take the superior Cubs team 7 games and extra innings to beat the inferior Indians team by one run? The Cubs team that operated at 110% health (only setback the entire year was one injured player who came back for the world series) and the Indians team with 2 starters and two half catchers? Why did this superior Cubs team get shut out twice?
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>>74296146
Aroldis Chapman?
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>>74299084
I know, and Perez did very well especially at the end, not to mention >we could call up Mejia. That's why I said "maybe", I don't know that there is too much of a problem. The outfield is for sure though
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>>74299093
>Sitting outside watching a screen
HUE

>>74299117
Actually they were operating at about 60% because of how their offense was slumping, but that shows their superiority because even when they were struggling so much, they still found ways to win.

Including coming back down when it was 1-3.
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>>74296984
HFA for what event?
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>>74299117
Should also add the Indians didn't have their star outfielder all season, had to play in a more competitive division in a more competitive league and had to get through two better teams just to get to the Worlds Eries.
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>>74299185
>HUE
I didn't know I was talking to a casual
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>>74299185
>still shilling an underdog narrative

Christ, disgusting. The northside needs to be nuked.
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>The Berlin Wall was still up
>East Timor was not a country yet
>The Aral Sea was still a body of water
>The Space shuttle program was still state-of-the-art
>The Hubble Telescope was still under development
>Mars rovers were still only on paper
>Digital cameras weren't household items yet
>Nelson Mandela was in prison
>China was still the sick man of Asia
>Google was a decade away from being found
>the Middle East was at peace, hard to believe but true
>the majority of current major league players had not yet been born
>Tommy John meant an active player, not a surgery
>the Cubs title drought was at 70 year and pennant drought at 43 years, 28 years later they would break them both, the latter coming against the Dodgers
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>>74299304
Nelson Mandela should still be in prison, prove me wrong
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>>74299136
Mejia needs some time not only against better pitching, but also handling better pitchers. Calling him up now or last year would not be good, no matter how many games he hits in. I'd love for him to build a relation with a couple of our pitching prospects before coming up too.
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>>74299185
>Including coming back down when it was 1-3.
Again, playing against two starters that had to go through AL hitters and still have to go through another best of seven is easy/cheat mode.

The real world series was/is ALCS desu
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I will make a wojack of your minor league /colleg team
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>>74299376
Lake County Captains?
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>>74299376
UNL huskers m8
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>>74299217
Cubs didn't have their strongest bat all season, dominated their division to the point they single handedly knocked out the two other competitive teams out of play off contention due to how good they were.

It's called depth, the Indians clearly lacked it along with heart. Cubs won. It helps to not have pitchers that are full retard and then having your 'best pitcher' and 'best reliever' get exposed in game 7.


Also it's not like the baby league is impressive. Look at how 'easily' the 'GOAT' Indian ptiching staff shut down the 'best' players of the '''AL'''. The days the Cubs bats show up, those same '''Aces'''' get their shit stuffed. Make all the excuses you want, your pitching staff was up against an on again, off again offense. And when they were off, they struggled, when the Cubs were on the ball, your pitchers got destroyed.

>>74299278
>His stadium is now called guaranteed rape.
>And his L stop has metal bars
KU KU KU
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>>74299432
You keep going back and forth between the Cubs being superior and "poor me they were no good the Indians must really be terrible"
Like you claim they hurt without Schwarber but it didn't matter in the division of league and then they only missed him in the Series against the Indians in the NL format but the Indians suck
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>>74299412
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>>74299326
>Nelson Vanilla
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>>74299432
>Cubs dominated their division
>their division
literallynothing.jpg

>shit-talking kluber
>the guy that literally shutout the cusp in game 1
>doesn't realize cubs won by one run in extra innings

I know cubs fans only use wrigley as a bar and toilet and you didn't watch any of the games but this is sad
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>>74299580
excuse me, but this man's name is Talcum X
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>>74299432
>>His stadium is now called guaranteed rape.
>>And his L stop has metal bars
Still better than casual corner Wrigley
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>>74299625
Martin Luther Cream Jr.
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>>74299398
>Lake County Captains
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>>74299376
Will you do Independent leagues?

Wichita Wingnuts.
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>>74299572
Based tripfag
Thx
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>>74299376
Las Vegas 51s
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>>74299660
>flyover
Fucking rude
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>>74299716
It's cool bro the flyovers won the election
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>>74299512
That's the glory of having it both ways, The Cubs were a superior team and destroyed everyone in NL, and even when they slumped and weren't firing at all cylinders, they still found ways and means to stay in games. The Indians fans are STILL trying to make excuses. For the fact they lost to a superior Cubs team.

>Mum injuries!
Translation - 'My team has zero depth because that's how the baby league works.'

>Mum league toughness!
Translation - 'My team sucked so it was harder for them to put teams away and keep divisional rivals out of the players. Also you were in the same division as the Twins and White Sox. Talk about free wins all day, every day.

>Mum DH!
It's sad when the NL finds a way to outplay your cherished position, it speaks volumes of how much depth and skill the Cubs have when they can have a guy who destroyed his ALC come back and make a mockery of your ''aces' and then have madden come out and go 'It's nice to have but LOL, DH is for faggots'

>>74299590
>Kluber
>Won game 1
>Choked hard in game 7
>Trying to defend the loser who can't win the Big game.
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>>74299698
i have bakersfield train robbers season tickets so yeah
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>>74299376
montgomery biscuits pls
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>>74299817
Thanks brojack!
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>>74299376
Fuck off back to /r9k/ and learn to make some actual OC you talentless hack.
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>>74299376
New Hampshire fisher cats desu
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>>74299868
HEY!
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>>74299715
>>74299868
ur a hating ass nigga
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>mfw I realized lifelong cubicle fag is actually pissboy
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>>74299805
You had one whole position to be deep in, oh my. Meanwhile the Indians had 7 players lost over the course of the season. AL was objectively better than NL overall in 2016 at least. Batters hit better and pitchers allowed less runs. You literally don't have to play a DH, the fact that you did shows how little you care for the tradition you cry about
Lester is autistic and refuses to throw to first ever.
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>>74299908
Because your lazy copy pasta shit is cancer.

Learn to create original things instead of being a rehashing piece of shit.
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>>74299376
Durham Bulls. Not even a rays fan but it is the closest to me
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>>74299930
He realizes his shit team had a hollow victory and is lashing out. Don't give it yous, it's just making it worse.
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>>74299698

Gary RailCats reporting.

>inb4 gary, stadium security is top notch. I've never had my car broken into at RailCats game. I can't say the same about shitty-ass Guaranteed Rape
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>>74299829
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>>74299930
Good job for agreeing with me that the Indians have no depth and have to resort to scapegoating injuries as to why they lost and not the fact they got outplayed by the Cubs.

>B-b-b-but Kluber is good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfnF2TMGGE
Nice job giving up 4 runs, including 2 home runs in the biggest game of the season. Look at that clutch!

>>74299961
>Hollow victory
Can't wait to see the Cubs go back to back just to gloat more.
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>>74300006
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>>74299969
Hello fellow American Association bro
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>>74299956
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Please stay upset, /mlb/

nothing makes me happier than watching you autismos get so buttblasted over some cubes shitposters
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>74300012
>no depth
They had to replace 7 players. I have no idea how you can be that dense. You try playing an entire postseason on short rest when you'd never even played once on short rest in your career and see how you feel by the 6th start
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>>74299376
Think you could do the Lake Erie Crushers?
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OC right here
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>>74299805
Klubet pitched three times in the WS on short rest (He won game 1 and game 4). Good to see you became a lifelong fan in game 7. Try to keep up.
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>>74300135
Wew lad those are some grade A titties
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>>74300121
>>74300146
why do you even reply to them? this shit happens so often because you retards get you so asspained
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>>74300171
There's a difference between being asspained and not letting gay lifelongs live in their fantasy world
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>it's a lifelong pretends he wasn't rooting for the Dodgers in August episode
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>>74300171
this, these people are just false-flagging hard for attention, and it works like a charm. you retards literally cannot resist the most obvious fucking bait
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>>74300146
>But mum short rest
It shows the Indian's pitching staff is overrated as fuck if you need to rely on him so much and how bad he is when put into high stress situations. At least Kershaw was able to deliver when pushed past his breaking point against the NEETs. Although to be fair, Both Kluber and Kershaw can both be known as chokers since they both shit the bed in the games that really matter. (Cubs shelling Kershaw for 5 runs and Kluber's chokejob of giving up 4 runs.)

And let's not forget that supposed 'ace' reliever of the Indians, Miller giving up 2 runs, including a home run to David Ross. It made for a great send off for Ross, but is a terrible idea if you want to win the game.

Sure chapman choked, but he stuck it out like a man and pithced the 9th to force the game to go into extra innings, also he was told to fuck off back to the Yankees, so that weak link is gone.

>>74300194
It's not bait if it's true.
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@74300318
Until this postseason Kluber had, and I mean this, literally never pitched on short rest. He did it twice in the Series
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>>74300135
An improvement. Start shopping mascot heads to women with big tits and you'll get a lot more millage than the same awful copypasta.
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>>74300318
>A pitcher that can throw 105 mph is a "weak link".
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>>74300536
cubs fans HATE being reminded that they gave up a top 5 prospect in baseball for a month of le throw fast man
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Looks like Indian apologists finally understand the inferiority of their team as I have not gotten a (you) from them.

That's a good first step to becoming a decent human being, realizing your wrong and not fighting a losing battle out of spite. It's like assuming the Browns will ever have a winning season again. it just makes you look like a fool.

>>74300536
When his pitches are so one dimensional where hitters can adjust to hit them, yes. Better to get Rondon's ass in gear during spring training since he was a good closer for the first part

>>74300570
>Thinking they were top prospects
Theo sold the Yankees a bunch of fool's gold with one nugget.
Also it's not like we need more prospects wen the main line up and bench is already loaded for bear. Or that Theo just won't manage to find players that are even better than what he traded away. It's the only reason the Red Sox are still good, they're just coasting on what Theo built for them even after they stabbed him in the back and ran him out of town.
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>>74300663
see what i mean? they fucking hate it lmao

literally gave them the next derek jeter for a wifebeater, my sides
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>>74295995
>tfw you're ace pitcher doesn't have a 100% save percentage in the postseason
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>>74299376
CPP Broncos
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>Dave Niehaus would have been 82 today
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>>74300868
h-he will not divide us
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>>74300868
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>>74300868
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD PAY FOR MY IMPLANTS
>>74300700
>his ace has 0 rings
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>>74297390
It's not his agent's fault that the arbitrators still think saves hold significant weight to a players value
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>>74301062
She is one of /ourgirls/
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>>74300700
>His ace lets a rookie hit a HR off him in an elimination game of the NLCS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XbMhQPNI0E
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>>74301081
It's his agent's fault for not knowing or willfully ignoring what arbitrators value.
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>>74301177
To be fair, this is the same guy who hit a home run off the first pitch he ever say in the major league.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8z2205EwHQ
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>>74301381
wut da okayzion fo dem baby blu unafourms dey tite as hell imma crip
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>>74301381
Soler did the same thing if I remember correctly
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>>74301536
He got it on his first at bat, Contreras got it on his first pitch ever.

Leave it to a Pirates pitcher to think throwing a dead center meatball is ever a good idea even to a guy's who's doing his first big league start.
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>It's a pitching staff carries the majority of the offense for a playoff series episode.
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>>74299930
>Lester refuses to throw to first
Because he can't throw it properly to first for whatever reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWM_rGr7A0w

And he's not going to start pulling some bullshit balk moves to pick people off like than one chink. Blows my mind that Soler is considered one of the weak links of the cubs.
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>>74302221
>Soler is considered one of the weak links of the cubs
wew
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>>74302348
It's true, he was only a bench player this year and obvious not important enough to keep him around since he was one of the first people to be dumped.
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forgot i made this
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>when his slugging starts with a .4
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>>74303811
>Trusting a cuban traitor
He didn't swim so good
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>>74295872
Back the fuck off???????
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Cubans and Dominicans are now banned from playing pro ball. Is the game improved?
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>>74304054
You need to get rid of Venezuela and Canada too
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>>74297613
Mets did better in TV ratings this past year + year before compared to the Yanks. Mostly because of Syndergaard. Nights he pitched doubled in comparison to all other pitchers other than Tanaka (1.5). Baseball in NY is fucking expensive. Yankees have way more white collar fans to pay $300+ game experience. Mets are working class stiffs on long island who watch at home with beer & kids
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>>74304459
Mets are shit
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>>74304483
senpai, if you put a gun to my head and asked me "Knicks or Mets" I'd probably choose Mets for the first time since like 1992. That's saying something. What I'm not sure but it's something.
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>>74304535
God bless and many happy returns
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What's more impressive:

Filtering with a no-hitter and or perfect game multiple times into the 8th and 9th inning

OR

Throwing a single no hitter
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>>74305032
Obviously the no hitter. There's no prize for almost
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>>74296081
Digits
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>>74305066
You meme
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>>74305066
Doubles confirm the Cubs win back to back to back.

Also if this post is repeating digits. Lester will get at least one other umpire to charge the mound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L6GNX632lg
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>>74305207
the cubs are going another 108 years
im sure you will continue being a fan though
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>>74305065
thats not what dodger fans say
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>>74305032
>>74305065
Yeah cuz edwin jackson is more impressive than chris sale.
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>>74305313
James Shields
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>Ryan Howard has a WS ring
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>When you find yourself in the weird part of MLB videos.
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Mike Moustakas has a ring
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>>74305357
Does it just switch vid descriptions or something?

>>74305472
He also is currently leading the league in home runs hit, what a lucky guy
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Who /foldinginthenexttwoyears/ here
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why was Greg Maddux so mediocre in the postseason?
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>>74298989
Yeah, the Cubs suck! They won the World Series.
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>>74305996
Probably because he was facing the best teams in baseball at that time. Even MadBum got scorched.
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@74306384
Because of the DH which you free outers love to decry until it comes time when you can use it. Then you choose to use it instead of keeping your game pure
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>>74305896
that dead kid ruined the fun
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>>74306998
is he died?
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>>74301296
When the arbitrators are so old they only care about wins and saves, and your client doesn't start or close, what the hell are you supposed to do?
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>When you hear that you lost your arbitration case
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>>74296081
Aaron Judge, Greg Bird, & Tanaka

Does anyone seriously think Judge and Bird are any good?
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74300663
Gleybar torres was a top 30 prospect
The Indians are set for the next 5 years the Cubs aren't
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was he safe or wasn't he?
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>>74307348
As a Cubs fan, he was probably safe. Was he called safe or out at the plate? I can't remember.
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>>74307366
Out
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>>74307368
ah, then in that case they clearly just didn't have conclusive evidence or at least didn't think they had it.
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>>74307297
>The Indians are set for the next 5 years the Cubs aren't
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>>74307348
It was a 50/50 call. If he had been called safe it would have been upheld that he was safe. Since he was called out the call was upheld as out.
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>>74307181
You play within the rules and get your client that extra 500k? This isn't hard.
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>>74307402
The Cubs have 1 Year left in their rotation, 1 year left in their bullpen they are nothing without pitching, as seen from 2008-2013
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>>74307422
>Still have lester for 5 years
>Have Hendricks for at least 2 more
>Can easily resign Arrietta
The fuck you on about?
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>>74307442
your thinking that having lester for the next 5 years is a good thing?
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>>74307452
He's probably still good for 2 to 3 years before regression
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>>74307480
Solid #3 for 2 years, 4-5 for the rest.
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>>74307442
>easily resign arrieta
Remember when blue jays fans said that encarnacion would resign no matter what?
Also signing wade davis to one year was retarded lackey will be gone and half the bullpen will be gone, there was a reason Theo didn't last long in Boston
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Happy Birthday
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>>74307518
>Remember when blue jays fans said that encarnacion would resign no matter what?
There's a difference when you actually can win a ring with a team.

>there was a reason Theo didn't last long in Boston

Because Boston is filled with the worst fans on earth?
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>>74307534
no, Theo made really shit moves and he's made more since going to Chicago, like signing wade davis for 1 year
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>>74307518
What the fuck when did we say that? Jewpiro doesn't spend money so it's not surprising he retracted his offer before edwin even knew it existed.
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>>74297691
Eat a Dick nigger
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*blocks your van
*hits home run off you
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>>74307550
>like signing Wade Davis for 1 year
He traded for Davis you idiot.
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>>74307550
>Wins your city the first Series in 90+ years
>Shit moves
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>>74307632
see i like him but i think bilal powell works better in that role
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>>74307652
He could start in RF for the Yankees
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>>74307488
He was just a 4 WAR pitcher. I don't know of many rotations where a 4 WAR pitcher is a solid #3.
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>>74307644
He had those players already in 04
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Oh my god they are as dilusional as their fans
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>>74307746
>dilusional
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>>74307746
>stroman saying or doing something retarded
Gee wiz it's like that's never happened before
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>>74307746
They had a top 5 rotation in 2016.
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>>74307746
Aaron Sanchez
J.A Happ
Marco Estrada
Marcus Stroman
Francisco Liriano

They literally have an ACE as their 4 lol
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>>74307774
Yeah, In the AL east
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>>74307782
Aaron Sanchez isn't that good
J.A happ is a meme
Marco sucks
Stroman is stupid
Liriano sucks
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>>74307792
>having a top 5 rotation in the best hitting division in baseball is a bad thing
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>>74307803
>best hitting
EL OH ELLLLLLLLL
They got destroyed by the Indians what makes you say they will beat them this year
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>>74307801
>I have no arguments

Cubs, Dodgers, Nationals, Indians, Red Sox and Mets are the only rotations that can be argued to be better
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>>74307803
I think what he meant was, top 5 out of five teams in the AL east
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>>74307816
they werent beat because of their starting pitching
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>>74307830
Oh so he's a retard
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>>74307816

the week of the rake
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>>74307792
More like the MLB.
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>>74307826
Indians, Cubs, dodgers, nationals, Red Sox, mets, pirates, giants, mariners
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>>74307857
You could throw the cards in too if you want
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>>74307857
>pirates
>mariners
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>>74307857
>Pirates
>Mariners

Just throw in the Padres too while you're t it
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>>74307888
You asked for it
Indians, Cubs, dodgers, nationals,Red Sox, mets, pirates, mariners, padres, cardinals
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Why do people think the nationals have a top 5 rotation? They're the most top heavy team in baseball and outside of scherzer and Strasburg who is injured yearly they don't have much else.
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>>74307914
Tanner Roark
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>>74307914
They have tanner roark
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>>74307914
Because they literally were top 2 by WAR, ERA, and FIP.
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2 days until some form of MLB is played. 5 until the 2017 Worlds Eries champion Seattle Mariners take the field for the first time this year.
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Why are people pretending the Jays don't have a good rotation
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>>74307984
That's not even all that perplexing. What's really unfathomable is why people are pretending the Mariners and Pirates have good rotations.
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>>74307984
Because my team is better than yours regardless of facts or opinions
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>>74307518
>Remember when blue jays fans said that encarnacion would resign no matter what?

lol no? fucking retard, a lot didn't want to sign muh old regressing DH at all
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>>74307969
>5 until the 2017 Worlds Eries champion Seattle Mariners
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>>74307984
same reason they're sleeping on them, subconscious desire for Canada to be bad is coloring their world.

no point in trying to convince frustrated autists to open their eyes though, it'll be more fun imagining the quiet SEETHING all season long
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>>74307841
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What do you call this pitch?
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>>74308373
chicken attack you idiot
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Do people seriously think the Cubs won't be a threat for the next decade? Our team is still young, and we had a great rotation and bullpen. There's literally no reason to think otherwise.
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>>74308445
You only get one world series per century. Stop being so greedy.
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Can someone explain why cusbfags think finally winning one ring after 108 years suddenly invalidates those 108 years of no rings?
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>>74308505
it's not even really a ring when you need seven games and a DH to beat a half-dead team
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>>74308461
>1907
>1908
>>
>Reminder that in the time it took the Cubs to win a World Series
>the literacy rate went from 50% to 99%
>Polio was cured
>the US fought in 5 wars
>alcohol was banned then unbanned
>LA rioted
>blacks got rights
>women were given sufferage
>baseball grew to 30 teams
>the NHL was born
>the NFL was born
>baskeball was invented
>people landed on the moon
>computers were invented
>the internet was invented
>people no longer died from the flu and the cold
>cars were mass produced
I could go on and on
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>>74308505
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>>74308624
How did the Marlins not win more with such genius distraction techniques in their old stadium?
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>>74307678
>Arguing the pitcher he will be in 5 years by using last years stats.

He was clearly not their #3 last year. God you're fucking dense. I said he will be solid #3 you confused the past with the future there, you see now? I wish you were just trolling seriously read a book.

Red sox, Nationals, Blue jays, Indians, Mets could all feasibly achieve your asinine remark
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>>74308752
>Solid #3 for 2 years
>this means in 5 years
>???????
>math is hard
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>>74308792
2<5 therefore encompassed, understood?
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>>74308792
>>74308800
To elaborate when talking about a 5 year spectrum you still include years 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Not just the last year even though it is the 5th year you must count to 4 before you get to 5. You cannot forget steps 1, 2, 3, 4
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>>74308812
>>74308800
>Solid #3 for 2 years
>4, 5 for the rest
You clearly meant Lester will be #3 for 2017 and 2018, and #4-5 for the rest of his contract, right? Because if you meant Lester was a solid #3 for 2015 and 2016, well, that's even dumber.
Sorry, but you are retarded.
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T R O S
R
O
S

It's been a while
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I really hate this whole "face of baseball" discussion

Like who cares?
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>>74309175
casuals and normalfags
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>>74308812
That's exactly what I meant, it was clear the first time.

This is why it was stupid of you to use his 4 WAR in 2016 to support your idea he will be at least their #2 in future years.
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>>74309175
agents and marketing execs
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>>74309175
also, who the fuck is discussing it? reddit? just stay there
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>>74309221
Please leave autismo
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>>74309305
MLB Network is
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>>74309382
It should be Trout and Bryant tho desu
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>>74309382
It should be Julio Urias desu.
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>>74309465
>wanting Julius Urine as the face of the MLB
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>>74309442
Can't argue with this.
Trout is GOAT
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>>74309306
Usually the loser leaves, sad!
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Harper is a legit #1 player
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>>74300075
DBAP is the classiest minor league ballpark in all the land.
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>>74309600
What's his elo?
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>>74309644
Did Fangraphs come up with another one?
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>>74309566
>don't use lesters previous stats to try to project his production in future seasons
I'm not saying he will be a 4 WAR player butnplease stop this autism, he hasn't started declining yet and probably won't for another couple seasons.
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>>74309644
electric light orchestra?
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>>74299376
Fresno greezlees
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>>74295650
>NYY: Yankees sign Jon Niese to minor league deal

On purpose?
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>>74309714
You used one stat in one year to support an idea that spanned the course of 5 years. But if you think his 2016 WAR is enough to project the next 5 years then I'm sure you knew what would happen in 2016 based off of his 2012 WAR. Say autism again expose yourself.

Have fun believing a 33 year old pitcher with cancer won't regress for "another couple seasons"
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damn...how can the rest of the league even compete??
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>>74310572
Tacky
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>>74310572
I hope he doesn't take that back to his home country and drive over 60. Others in his position are no longer with us. Good thing he can't take that in the water.
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>>74310465
>being this obsessed with what a cubs lifelong thinks about a pitcher

you sound so pathetic
>>
based brewers all but confirmed for 78-84 better than expected season
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>>74310707
A fucking leaf
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>>74310768
>getting mad at fucking leafs because they blew you out

lol
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>>74310880
blew who out?
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>>74310880
Guess we all forgot who won the AL East last year
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>>74310880
>a leaf
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>>74310925
Only because Gary Sanchez played the last 3 months of the season. Just wait, leaf. Gary Sanchez will be the greatest catcher in New York since Yogi
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https://mobile.twitter.com/hankschulman/status/833777313712107520

>His team doesn't have living legends show up to spring training

Sad!
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>it's literally this easy
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>>74311022
>being proud of being nothing more than a meme
have a pity (You)
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>>74311053
see also: giants "fans"
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>>74311086
What do you mean by this?
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wtf I love Rick Ankiel now
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>>74311115
obsession desu
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>ywn pitch drunk in the majors
Why live
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>When his batting average begins with a number lower than 4
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>When National League "baseball"
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>tfw no baseball
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>>74311480
>yankees players
>hitting .400
top laff
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>>74311480
Shame she let this one get away
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>>74295920
Even though AT&T is the cleanest ballpark in the MLB...
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>>74311613
>Yankees players
>Hitting above .250
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>anyone who isn't on my team
>doing anything good or positive

o i am laffin
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>tfw elite batting pitcher
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>>74311819
I'm: >>74311728

and I am a Yankee fan. I always forget when was the last time they had a over .300 hitter (it was Cano in 2013 I just looked it up)

I mean >batting average but still it means something. They ain't gonna do shit this year and they have no pitching. I think they'll end up with the same win total as last year.
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>>74311913
>They ain't gonna do shit this year
I beg to differ. The last two digits of this post are how many wins they'll get.
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>>74312205
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>>74312205
yeah that sounds about right
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>>74312205
If they don't shit up April maybe they'll compete for a wild card.
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>>74312205
Does the team plane crash or something?
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>>74312205
>the last two
Way to have confidence in your team
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SMFH I JUST SEEN THE TOP 100 PLAYERS SEGMENT AND THIS RETARD RON DARLING KEEPS SAYING THAT KERSHAW'S 89MPH SLIDER IS A CUTTER.

IT'S A SLIDER!!!!!
I KNOW IT SOUNDS TOO HARD TO BE A SLIDER BUT IT'S SUPER TIGHT SPIN GIVES IT LATERAL MOVEMENT. IT'S THE SAME ROTATION AS ANDREW MILLERS JUST AT GREATER VELOCITY WHICH IN TURN GIVES IT LESS SWEEP BUT MORE LATE MOVEMENT AT THE HANDS.

STOP CALLING IT A CUTTER. HE HAS A CUTTER BUT IT'S USED LESS THAN 4% OF THE TIME.

THIS IS THE SAME SHIT AS WHEN PEOPLE CALLED LINCECUMS SPLIT/FORK A CHANGE-UP. YES HE HAD A CHANGE-UP BUT I WAS A SPLIT 80% OF THE TIME.

HOW DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS SHIT.

IT'S A SLIDER

HOW HAS MLBN NOT GIVEN ME A SEGMENT ON MLB-NOW
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>>74312481
ron darling went to yale. he didn't spend his 20s peeing on girls with mental problems.

that's why he has a show and you don't.
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>>74312481
Calm down shit boi
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>>74312481
fuck off pissboi no one cares
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>>74312481
>He rates Ron Darling
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>>74312569
I actually don't bitch that was the whole point of my post. He's a shitty broadcaster and analyst. I'd rather hear Verduci or Petriello talk about factual baseball than some made up shit that darling pulls from his ass.
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>>74312481
grainkey has a very /fa/ expression in this pic
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Hawk Harrelson's South Side Deathtoll brought to you by Guaranteed Rate
Guaranteed Rate, "here's your big red down arrow you sad fucks"
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>>74312666
Thanks satan
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>>74312666
HAIL SANTA
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>>74312640
luckily literally no one has ever cared what you think, and i mean EVER.
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>>74310572
Oh my god, that's an ugly fucking car.
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>>74311681
It's a meme park
>giant brick wall
>quirky dimensions
>polluted bay
>giant coke bottle in the outfield
>voted by PETA as the most vegetarian friendly park in MLB
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>>74312827
>voted by PETA as the most vegetarian friendly park in MLB
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>>74312741
I just got 9 replies in two posts so. Feel free to stop caring at anytime brother.
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>>74312839
I know, right?
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SOON
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>>74312869
>5 people insulting you
yes, i am so jealous of your fame on here as a worthless biased shitposter associated with urine.
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>gib closer nao, gotdammit
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>>74312929
>tfw we would have both been happy if the drob trade had just happened

It's a shame for both of us that our GMs fucked up
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>>74312919
stop talking to me dawg. I don't give a fuck lol. I'm an icon. Stop taking to me. Nobody here knows more about analytics and pitching than me.
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>>74312929
HEY
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>>74312947
if you ever wondered why 75% of the responses you get are antagonistic, this post is a good example of why. sad!
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>>74312939
I guess Rizzo is happy with what he has in house. For now anyway. I like Koda Glover's stuff, but he's so green. Fearless though. I like that in a closer.
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>>74312481
if you replace chris russo, i'd legit watch your meme show, pissboi
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>>74312959
I'm an asshole because very few people here understand baseball at the same level than I do. Most people here (you) are imbecilic retards who repeat shit they hear on TV. Unaware of your own roster and depth. Posting bullshit that they think, rate than factual and irrefutable truths. I get replies because I'm right and people have issues with being told their favorite player isn't as good as they think. You gave me this clout. I didn't ask for it.
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>>74312954
WHERES
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Did any mest pitchers explode today? It's so hard to keep up.
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>>74312994
WOW...
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You are now aware the cubbies youngins like kyle, javi, rizzo, bryant, contreras, and addy are approaching final form and there is nothing anyone can do to stop them. We dynasty now
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>>74313005
What if I hit a walk off bomb?
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>>74313015
>We
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Someone should tell that guy that Addison Russell isn't a top 5 SS in the league lol
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>>74313015
Javier Baez is Puig 2.0 lmao chill fám
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>>74312947
Lol, bitch, you're an icon in your own mind. I run this board now. You're old. You're out of date. You're rundown. I run this general now. Try to keep down and keep quiet, it's my turn.
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>be incredibly obnoxious, humorless, condescending know-it-all faggot, non-stop
>some people complain and laugh at your pissing fetish
>lol you all love me and my superior baseball knowledge im iconic im iconic kthxbai

legitimately feel sorry for the dude. this is what it must be like to have never had a friend. hope I never get like that
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wtf I love bruce hooper now??
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>>74313034
name 5 better SS rn.
>>74313045
not a chance. Javi is literally the best infielder in the game rn. Aside from his mental mistakes from hero ball no one makes plays like him. Hes only getting better.
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>>74313071
corey seager
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>>74313071
Seager, Crawford, Lindor, Correa, Turner.
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>>74313045
>Actually good on defense
>Offense is getting better rather than regressing


I don't see it.
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>>74313071
Seager, Lindor, Correa, Crawford, Bogaerts, Tulowitzki and I know Bryce Harper doesn't play SS, but if he wanted to he would be better than Addison Russell
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>>74313052
This.
The age of Pissboi is over; the age of mo'Lester has come.
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>>74313096
Puig is a top defender in baseball and hits just as shit as Baez. There a reason Baez plays from the bench. Dud got hot in October similar to bumgarner in 2014. Can't expect him to replicate what he did in 11 games to 140+
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>>74313097
Harper fucking cant even play outfield. Youre a total dumb ass.
>>74313091
>>74313083
Only one I agree with is seager and he only has 1 season sample size. Addy is improving every day. Guy takes a ton of pitches and is king clutch with RISP.
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>>74313097
>Seager
The third basemen? Lol fuck off.
>Lindor
Couldn't beat Russell in the World Series.
>Correa
Overrated as hell, and not that great defensively.
>Crawford
Shit offensive player that's about to regress.
>Bogaerts
Non-all star shortstop that's shit defensively, and is a Boston babby. No one would know who he was if he didn't play for the Red Sox.
>Tulowitzki
Coors babby. Look at how hard he has regressed with the Blow Gays.
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>>74313123
You just called me a dumb ass while implying that Addison Russell is a better shortstop than Francisco Lindor
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>>74313123
Lindor is objectively better
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>>74313127
>>Seager
>The third basemen? Lol fuck off.
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>>74313110
>>74313110
Soon.

Soon.
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>>74313071
>>74313096
Andrelton Simmons is the best defender in baseball so you can abandon this false narrative that Chicago is trying to push. Beaz is a good defender but he's still second to Simmons on defense.
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>>74313149
seriously what the fuck happened to simmons? he was part of that great braves team and then he just fell of the face of the planet. always said if he could just hit like .260 he'd be so fucking good
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>>74313140
Then why couldn't he beat him in the World Series? You guys are grasping at straws.
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>>74313127
Dude, Russell isn't even the best defensive shortstop in his own fucking League. If you want to brag about his offense, ship him over to the AL so he can play designated hitter. Meanwhile, Lindor is a more complete shortstop
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>>74313165
If he was on a team like the Dodgers or Redsox or Cubs he would play better. A team that can absorb his lack of offense. His defense is damn bear 5 WAR. Crazy fucking defender and imbecil whose watched andrelton play for his career can know just how far and away better he is than everyone.
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>>74313167
I'm sorry. I seem to have forgotten the fact that Lindor and Russell were the only batters on either team. Silly me. I also forgot they pitched in every game of the World Series as well
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I would rather hear some bs about Kershaw and Bumgarner than this forced meme that Javier Baez is a top player in baseball. There's not even an argument to be made. He's a good defender but he can't hit.

Put Baez is Milwaukee and you wouldn't know who the fuck he is. Just like Hendricks.
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>>74313201
man if he was on the cubs hendricks would be posting a 1.50 ERA with a 3.50 FIP. they don't need any more elite fielders to baby their pitchers mang
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>>74313187
Russel makes daily web gems. Hes a top tier defender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G__PxuILfY8

Lindor did not make any remarkable plays I can recall
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>playing HOI4 while watching MLB tonight sand eating rocklets with strawberry flavored milk, all on a comfy fluffy carpet
Living life lads
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>>74313203
Lindor didn't even have close to as many RsBI or home runs as Russell in the World Series. Russell carried the team in Game 6, while Lindor just sat and watched. Truly pathetic how you guys defend this shit.
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>>74313230
Milk is racist, anon.
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>>74313231
Not to mention Russel hits dingers. Lindor is literally le single and steal 2nd base man.
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>>74313222
My fantasy is to have Arenado and Goldy play the corners with Simmons and someone like Lindor playing 2B. Imagine kershaw with that infield. A dude with already had a sub 2 FIP. THat ERA would legit be 0.87
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Why do you faggots even humor this shit? Baez and Russell are nobodies. Cubs lifelong opinions are utterly irrelevant. End of story
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>>74313228
>daily web gems
>fielding grounders
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>>74313251
>says the fucking leaf
Oh, now that's just rich. Now can you please explain to me why Russell was a top prospect even before he was traded to the Cubs? Fucking kill yourself.
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>>74313247
goldy is prob the most underrated player in the league rn. elite batting and elite defense plus he steals like 30 bags a year. real fuckin shame he's wasting his prime in arizona
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I'm iconic and you fags don't even know it
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>>74313242
Russell had 21 HRs and 25 doubles while batting 240.
Lindor had 15 HRs and 30 doubles while batting 300.
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>>74313238
this one's pink tho
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>>74313275
Russel has way more RBIs

Hes clutch af
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Man fuck this 30 team in 30 days bs on MLB Network. 2/3 teams are irrelevant so who cares
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Tulowitzki is a better shorstop than Russell
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>>74313258
nice bait
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>>74313296
This, who the fuck cares about some Mickey Mouse teams in the Arcade League? Pick a team from each division you'd like to contract from the league.
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>>74313298
Tulowitzki is a coors babby. Look at his away splits from Coors. He's absolute shit, yet you guys still sucky sucky his dick.
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>tfw cant help feeling that 2017 will be 2010/2015 all over again

the team and general culture in the clubhouse seems better than those years at least, but heres to hoping they wont crumble to expectations like they always do
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>>74313272
Man can you drop this fucking meme already. So tired of hearing about him underrated. Just cause there are a large number of imbecilic retards who don't watch baseball outside of their own division does not mean that goldy is underrated. The guy has the best WAR in the NL since 2o12. That's 5 full season. Better than Posey, McCutchen, kershaw, Harper, etc. Drop this meme. Anyone in the NL has known that Goldy fucks your shit up real fast. This is old news. Same shit with Freeman. Been good since 2012.
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not this shit again
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>>74313289
Russell struck out 135 times in 598 PAs. Lindor struck out 88 times in 684 PAs. Pretty amusing how some people think this is a contest.
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>>74313313
Just move the team to Oklahoma City, problem solved. Everyone here knows they're shit.
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>>74313314
don't think you know what underrated means, but w/e lad
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>>74313320
>muh strikeouts
Following this logic, Mike Trout isn't good either. He's led the league in strikeouts at least once. Quit being retarded.
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>>74313331
>team is shit so we should move it instead of try to improve it to not be shit

You are the worst kind of person.
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>>74313320
He strikes out less but still cant get more rbis despite putting the ball in play. Top laff
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>>74313333
Nice quads bby
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>>74313342
Because no one fucking cares about the Memeiners in your tranny-infested handegg/divegrass hellhole. The rest of /mlb/ agrees with me, it's just you who's objecting to it.

It's like talking to a fucking trip without the name.
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>>74313338
>strike out less, hit for better average, walk more, almost as much power, better defender, more stolen bases
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can we PLEASE stop unironically indulging the opinions of these people

it's been like 4 months of this shit, just give up on trying to convince them of reality
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>>74313363
kys
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>>74313372
Yet a lower WAR. Why is this even debatable? Don't reply to me again.
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>>74313320
>using strikeouts as a measurement of value

ISHYGDDT
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>>74313374
There's a place called Reddit if you don't like facts, you fucking cuck.
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>>74313372
> better defender
Literally no
> still can't into the objective of the game (rbis)
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>WAR
this meme needs to die already
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Jon Lester > Roger Clemens
Jake Arrieta > Pedro Martinez
Kyle Hendricks > Greg Maddux
John Lackey > Randy Johnson
Wade Davis > Mariano Rivera

Kyle Schwarber > Mike Piazza
Anthony Rizzo > Steve Pearce
Javier Baez > Rogers Hornsby
Addison Russell > Derek Jeter
Kris Bryant > Brooks Robinson

Ben Zobrist > Barry Bonds
Albert Almora > Willie Mays
Jason Heyward > Babe Ruth

Debate me.
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>>74313333
I don't think you understand the stupidity of baseball fans. Best position player since 2012. Five full seasons cannot make you underrated. It just makes people stupid.
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>>74313363
>the rest of /mlb/ agrees with me
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>>74313407
What measure would you prefer then?

Perhaps a ELO system?

>implying russell isn't diamond 2 at least
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>>74313414
Russell doesn't beat Jeter defensively. At least not yet. His offensive is, without question, better than Jeter's though.
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>>74313407
>rating players in comparison to other players at their position is bad

Your meme life needs to end desu. I do agree some people place too much importance on it though
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>>74313426
Falling for obvious bait
>>74313414
Nice meme
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>>74313414
If the game were played today, all of this would be true. If the 2016 Cubs played a team filled with the greats, the current rules of this game would favor the Cubs, SUBSTANTIALLY.
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>>74313426
Stop doing this falseflag faggotry or whatever it is you're doing. Delete your fuckng account
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>>74313415
man i was reading the MLBN top 100 player list earlier. paul goldschmidt was at #13, below fucking joey votto and bryce harper. how is he not underrated?
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>>74313228
>Lindor did not make any remarkable plays I can recall
Then you literally never watched him play
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>>74313422
You can't use ELO to measure player strength in team sports.
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>>74313441
It's not a meme when it's actually true if we used the current rules of baseball today.

I dunno what planet you're on but bait aside, the Leaf's points are valid.
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>>74313446
>Why was Goldschmidt below the 3rd best 1st baseman and the greatest baseball player of all-time
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>>74313426
Current shifting policy puts Russell ahead of Jeter defensively. Offensively, Russell has the making of being a Ripken or Larkin.
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>>74313459
> Hendricks > maddux
> lackey > Randy
Literally how
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>>74313460
i wasn't talking to you, sorry for the confusion
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>>74313422
Mike Trout is Diamond1 then.
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>>74313477
My bad, Paul
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>>74313476
Players have learned to get around pitches over time, it's part of the way the game changes, older players aren't built for it.

Why do you think people struggle as time goes on?
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>>74313446
People are just dumb as shit. Simple as that.
I will say it one more time.

#1 position player by WAR since 2012.
Of he was the 5th or 6th maybe the 4th you could say that he's lowkey good.

He's been the #1 best position player not at 1B but among all positions.

Not underrated just people being disrespectful and stupid.
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>>74313491
I'm looking at it as a whole career.
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>>74313476
I'd put Hendricks over Randy, but Maddux over both with all being set aside.
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>>74309839
i made this a while ago
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>>74313503
That's irrelevant if we're talking about now. The past doesn't matter right now.
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>>74313505
You'd take Hendricks over Randy Johnson in his prime.....what the fuck am I reading.
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>>74313495
i think you're misunderstanding me mang. i know personally how good goldy is, my team gets shit on by him every year. i'm talking about how people perceive him, which is what underrated means. he's a top 5 position player in baseball but people rate him lower than that, i.e he's underrated.
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>>74313514
Hendricks' pitches are more finessed and less gaudy, really, any baseball fan would take a non-gimmick over a gimmick any day of the week. That's why the Cubs are great at assembling talent the right way. I couldn't say the same for the Mariners/Diamondbacks.
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>>74313505
>I'd put Hendricks over Randy
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>A
.326/.434/.550, .984 OPS, 4 WAR, 120 SO in 556 ABs, 29 HR/97 RBI with 108 BBs
>B
.297/.411/.489, .900 OPS, 4.8 WAR, 150 SO in 579 ABs, 24 HR/95 RBI with 110 BBs

Quick
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>>74313482
>>74313457
>>74313422
What the fuck are you guys talking about?
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>>74313542
i'll take the second one, who is paul goldschmidt
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>>74313529
>gimmick
>johnson, a guy who relied primarily on his fastball and slider
gtfo
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>>74313529
> randy johnson is a gimmick
Please be meming. Im not sure Ive seen such a shitty opinion on this board.
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>people still falling for this dude's shit-tier bait
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>>74313555
That's a gimmick, you answered your own question.

Hendricks can master any pitch, that's why the game has evolved in his favor.

I don't understand why he didn't win the Cy, all the marbles were clearly in his favor.
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>>74313570
Now we are meming. Okay glad we are on the same page. Hendricks literally threw less than 10 fastballs all year. He cant throw hard.
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>>74313579
Yet his ERA+ was the standalone reason why he proved himself the most worthy pitcher of last year in today's game, in which he has proven himself today's best service in the game today.
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>coming back from classes to all this bait

Who falls for this?
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>being a defense babby
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>>74313601
When I use statistics like ERA+ this general loses the argument. Amazing how uninformed people are here regarding game evaluation and player's metrics via the aforementioned.
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>>74313588
> Cherry pick one stat to fit your argument
> hendricks one stellar season over randys historically good career
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>>74313601
And oh, I don't know, the DG guy? The guy who believes that Kershaw is the only Hall of Fame pitcher in today's game when Jon Lester's career stats in combined seasons suggest a more compelling reason to induct?
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Top 10 pitchers this century

1. Pedro Martinez
2. Walter Johnson
3. Chris Sale
4. Jose Berrios
5. Jake Peavy
6. Roger Clemens
7. Kyle Hendricks
8. Madison Bumgarner
9. R.A. Dickey
10. Mike Pelfrey
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>>74313631
>no bartolo colon
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>>74313621
Hendricks has many years ahead of Johnson, mind you it's been his 3rd year when he held the ERA title for the first time, where it took Randy 7 years to finally become a good pitcher, how Hendricks is adapting to today's game with future metrics on his side, suggests perhaps one of the best of all time, maybe even better than Lester or Kershaw if defense and misc. metrics help out.
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>>74313631

I'm loving these troll lists, but you definitely should put a fat nigger like CC Sebathia at the top to rustle the maximum jimmies
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>>74313631
lol
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>>74313631
> tfw you wanna actually have real baseball discussion but everyone keeps leaving shit bait everywhere.
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>>74313542
Probably A but I guess if depends
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>>74313668
this thread is a lost cause. wait till the new one
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>>74313631
Nice bait, try the actual list.

1. Cy Young
2. Walter Johnson
3. Roger Clemens
4. Pete Alexander
5. Kid Nicols
6. Lefty Grove
7. Tom Seaver
8. Greg Maddux
9. Kyle Hendricks
10. Phil Niekro
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>>74313655
Stop with the memes already
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>>74313683
>I rate Phil Niekro
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Reddit is unironcally better to discuss sports when you arnt in a game thread.
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>>74313683
I think this century means in the 21st
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>>74313672
say no more senpai

>>74313697
>>74313697
>>74313697
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>>74313691
97.4 career WAR is a bad thing?
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>>74313672
>>74313668
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Who is worse, us Jints or dem Cusb?
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>>74309442
Agreed. Clean cut. Well-mannered. Hard working. Athletic. Handsome. White. Though, I think we should also throw in someone who is black as well, but honestly, I can't think of a current black baseball player who fits the above criteria (aside from being white of course).

What happened to the Ken Griffey Jrs? The Tony Gwynns? The Hank Aarons? The Willie Mays? Don't see people like them playing baseball.
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>>74313127
>>Seager
>The third basemen? Lol fuck off.
i would say you need to make your bait less obvious but you seem to be doing ok
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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