People that should have won the Ballon Door

Sneijder should have won it in 2010 lad

>>74286329
Milito was definitely more instrumental to Inters success

2010 = Sneijder
2014 = Suarez

>>74286369
Inter's team and more specifically Sneijder were so good that season, any half decent striker would have done what milito did.

>2010 - Sneijder
>I didn't watch football back then so I'll just pick the best known player from the most successful team
I hate this meme

Iniesta or Xavi when Barça and Spain dominated...

>>74286386
This, as they say.

>>74286385
>I don't know how the Ballon D'Or works
I love this meme lol

>>74286385
>Won the CL
>Carried the NT to the WC final
>not the best player

>>74286369
Except Sneijder was part of reaching the World Cup final as well

>>74286233
2010?
Sneijder or Xavi

2013 Messi
2014 Messi
2016 Messi

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2004 - Henry

>>74286465
>Henry better than Shevchenko in 2004

Fuck off

2010 should be won by Iniesta, but he isn't mediatic. Fuck this shit.

>>74286465
look, an arsenal fan, haven't seen one since the 5 - 1

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>>74286587
>actually rating Shevkeko above Titi

2016 - Rui Patricio

>>74286455
t. messifag ef zeh barcelona gloryhunter cuckboi

>>74286455

Cringe

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2007
Nakamura

>>74286386
Iniesta has never had a season where he would've deserved a Ballon d'or. specially not 2010 when he was injured a lot and couldn't string 2 good matches together.
>Xavi
>"""tempo dictating""" midfielders in general
>Best on the planet
>ever
pick one

2006 Buffon

>>74286824
if you dont consider Xavi in the top 10 midfielders ever you're a literal retard

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>>74286233

2005 - Frank Lampard

>>74286976
>not Stevie G

How can people unironically still care about the Ballon D'or when Michael Owen has also unironically won one?

>>74286976
>LAMPARD OVER RONALDINHO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

2010-Sneijder, Xavi or Iniesta
2013-Robben or Ribery
2016-Griezmann or Suarez

>>74287111
I don't understand the Greizmann 2016 meme
>Chocked in Euros
>Chocked in CL
>Chocked in Copa
>Didn't win league
>Wasn't top goal scorer or assister

>>74287192
>chocked

do you even speak English you hobbit fuck

I understand your arse is chock full of cocks but it's 'CHOKE' and there's only one 'c' in that word

the correct way to say it is

>choked in Euro
>choked in CL
>choked in Copa

Griezmann did have a good year tbf, just not great

if he'd had a bit more luck he'd at least have won the Euro

>>74287192
He was a very good player, even though he didn't win. I wouldn't say he choked. Choked is not the same as losing.

My argument would have been Nedved didn't win the CL in 2003 but he still won the Ballon d'Or. However, he didn't win the league. Maybe he didn't deserve it.

>>74287285
>>74287237
If you're gonna win the Balon dor you have to at least win one title. Like I said he wasn't even the best individual performer that year, which goes to Suarez

2006 - Zidane

RIQUELME
I
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M
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>>74286976
Cringed

Messi should have won it 10 times. Quite clearly the best player on the planet every year.

>>74286963
ill take being a retard over rating some clown who passes it sideways for 90 minutes. hes not even top 10 midfielder of the last 15 years never mind all time.

>>74287561
The best argentinan player that i have ever seen on a pitch.

>>74287561
Nah

he's the epitome of "really good, but not great"

2020 - me

>>74287286
This

Iniesta not winning in 2010 was a scandal

>>74287192
Choked trying to spell choked
How ironic
Tip

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>>74287067

>le samba "eggsbress urself ;))" meme unironically rated
>see flag

Like pottery.

>>74286465

Henry deserved at least one of the Ballon d'Or or FIFA award 2003. Zidane didn't really do anything noteworthy to win the WPOTY and Nedved, while good, wasn't as good as Henry.

I think he would have deserved it in 2006 too if he hadn't shit the bed in the CL final. He was amazing that year, and it really was his final year as a truly elite player. In 2007 he got a bunch of injuries and was never the same after.

>BALLON D'OR WINNERS IF IT WAS BASED ON ABILITY AND PERFORMANCES RATHER THAN TEAM ACHIEVEMENTS (LAST 20 YEARS):

1996 - Ronaldo
1997 - Ronaldo
1998 - Ronaldo
1999 - Rivaldo
2000 - Zidane
2001 - Zidane
2002 - Zidane/Ronaldo
2003 - Henry
2004 - Henry
2005 - Ronaldinho
2006 - Ronaldinho/Henry
2007 - Kaka/C.Ronaldo
2008 - C.Ronaldo
2009 - Messi
2010 - Messi
2011 - Messi
2012 - Messi
2013 - Messi
2014 - Messi
2015 - Messi
2016 - Messi

>>74288537
>YEAR PEOPLE GOT INTO FOOTBALL

2016 - (You)

>>74288566

Tell me what is wrong with the list

>>74288602
no Shearer lad

>>74286587
How fucking dumb can one person be?

Ronaldo 1996
Beckham 1999
Zidane 2000
Roberto Carlos 2002
Henry 2006
Sneijder 2010
Xavi 2011
Iniesta 2012
Ribéry 2013
Neuer 2014
Griezmann 2016

>>74288537
This is actually a pretty good list although I do think Ronaldo was deserving of at least one of the golden balloons after 2008

>>74288537
best in thread

no cringe

>>74286329
>lose the biggest game of your career
>fanboys think you deserve ballondor

top kek

>>74288659

But it's based on ability and performances, and not once this decade has Ronaldo come close to Messi in that regard, no matter what the media wants you to believe.

If Ronaldo deserves it for his stats then why not RVN in 2003? 44 goals for the season (this was beyond what was normal back then), 12 in the CL (which was a record until Messi broke it) and he wasn't even in contention for the award because he simply wasn't on the level of Henry, Zidane etc. ability and influence wise.

>>74288769
>The World Cup is more important than the Champions' League
no

>>74288537
Unironically the best post ITT

>>74288789

To actual footballers, it is. Doesn't matter what big team band-wagoners like you think.

>>74287192
>reached the C1 finals
>reached the Euro finals
>finished 3 pts away from la liga title (88 points)
>best goalscorer of the Euro
>best player of the Euro
>40 goals for the season

Suarez - 2016
Messi - 2014
Messi - 2013

>>74288407
>english players
>good
looool @ your level of delusion
I bet you'll tell me that your shitty league is the best in Europe too

2009 Federico Macheda

Pirlo in 2006

Best player in the WC and it wasn't close. Only retards rank Zidane above him.

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2016 - Schmeichel

2013 - Ribéry

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Buffon instead of Cannavaro in 2006

>>74291064
this
He would be the last goalkeeper to win the ballon d'or
instead we have meme Yashin

2004 - Henry
2010 - Sneijder
2014 - Suarez
2016 - Kante

>>74286385
>t.retard

Sneijder transformed Inter from Stankovic playing AM into a modern, winning side.

John Fucking Terry

>>74287561
>Le 4mph 270 turn man

How about nope

>>74291132
My Turkish barber said I look like sneijder on Saturday after he'd number one'd cranium

Totti in 2000 or 2001

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>>74288407
he is doing the same face I do when I do cocaine

drogba in 2010

>>74291243
>Totti

Literally the Italian niall quinn

>>74286465
nah

>>74291281
>that flag
>this topic

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>>74288537
/thread

>>74287945
how? Xavi, Sneidjer and Milito all had superior seasons (Sneidjer should have one it desu).

>>74291308
We invented it spaghetti

>>74291364
Then why do you suck at it? At least americans have an excuse

>>74291414
>caring about international football

Enjoy your shitty league filled with galatasaray and dynamo rejects m9

>>74286405
Please, Holland had an easy run beating on those loser south american squads.

>>74286976
Hol up, you be sayin the original le occasional blooter goal man should've been Balon d'or winner because his occasional blooter ratio went up that year?

>>74291488
no one's talking about nt results, just saying the british are no good at footy

>>74289107
>best goalscorer of the Euro

Please, that greasy nigga stated against those garbage euro teams who have janitors and dentist playing on them.

>>74288651
Embarrassed for you Pierre

>tfw Michael Owen has a Ballon d'Or but Henry doesn't

Travesty

>>74286405
Everyone not in the Dutch team at the time wanted them to lose. They played absolutely horrid football. Maybe if he scored one of the 100 freek kicks he took from midfield he could have won something

Michael Laudrup.

>>74293980
How in god's name did Owen win in 2001 though?

Liverpool won trophies but that was the League Cup, Fa and Uefa Cup.

He also didn't score as many as the best European strikers.

There must have been at least 15-20 players who won more important trophies + performed better individually.

>>74288781
i agree. ballon dor should be won on the merit of youtube highlights and amount of dribbling.

also kys dumb faggot

>>74286465
>>74288453

Fuck off back to /arse/ you fucking cancer

>>74286405
Why didn't Messi or di María win it in 2014 then?

TORRES

>>74295406
Messi deserved to win it in 2014 argiebro

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1966 Russian Linesman

>>74288537

Ronaldo in 13/14

I still cant believe Deco didnt win it over Shevi in 2004

>>74286369
1. No he wasn't
2. Sneijder was also the best player at the world cup that year

You clearly don't remember the World Cup in 2006 by Cannavaro.

We all know that the WC matters more than any other competition and if Pirlo and Buffon were great, Cannavaro was simply the best defender ever seen in those 3 weeks. It was ridiculous how perfectly he played in every single situation

>>74298905
As Cantona said perfectly,

'It is harder to create a house, than to destroy it' .

That's why attacking players are always, always favoured in awards.

And rightly so.

A good play from a defencer could be kicking the ball into row Z, if it meant stopping a player scoring when through on goal.

Good play by attackers always involves some level of precision, be it a pass or scoring a goal.

>>74286757
>Not Chicharito
Pleb opinion discarded

>>74294101
>They played absolutely horrid football
That's completely irrelevant and wrong, you're judging the team on the defensive structure of van Bommel and De Jong and not the rest of the squad like a cunt.

An attacker only has to have one good moment in a match to be considered a hero.
A defender can be play the best game ever and then lose his footing in the 90th minute to concede the losing goal and be laughed at for years.

Quality Defenders > quality Attackers

>>74299235
I think ultimately, it's way harder to quantify and discern defensive ability which makes it harder to rate in terms of awards.

Also, because the defenders with the 'best stats' are more likely to be the ones of the lower teams who have to defend more.

>>74299953
You can look at tackles, interceptions and clearances for that. The only issue is that Goals and assist are easy to find and listed by Google but the more in depth stats you actually have to look for

>>74286385
>>74286405
Inter won a fucking treble that year... Sneijder not winning it in 2010 is the point in time where the award turned into a meme.

>>74300821
Milito played for Inter too

>>74286963
You do realize that Xavi played for both Barcelona AND Spain prior to Iniesta, Busquets, et al the usual suspects became regular starters... and guess what?
He was entirely average. To say otherwise, you'd actually, objectively speaking, have to be mentally challenged.

>>74300888
holy fuck I hate americans.

Xavi was one of the most creative, intelligent and skillful midfielders to have ever played. What he did off the ball was just as amazing as what he did with it.

You will hardly see a player single handedly open a defence line or create space within the midfield the way he did. It was always a pleasure watching him play.

Please KYS go back to your shit sports

>>74287812
name your top ten faggot.

1. Zidane
2. Laudrup
3. Xavi
4. Arsenal
5. Scholes

>>74301085
Iniesta is literally better than Zidane

>>74301358
zidane was a game changer through sheer solo technical ability.

iniesta whilst a game changer has been gifted these moments through talented teammates

>>74301358

Iniesta only does well when his team is dominant. Look at this season and 2013/2014 when Barca are/were going through a rough patch, he's totally anonymous.

>>74286686
Sheva is better in every aspect
Plus, he was in prime Serie A

>>74288537
1996 -1997 Ronaldo
1998 Zidane
1999 Rivaldo
2000 Zidane
2001 Zidane
2002 Ronaldo
2003 ----
2004 Sheva
2005 Dinho
2006 Zidane
2007 Kaka
2008 that
2009 Messi
2010 Iniesta
2011 Messi
2012 Iniesta
2013 Ribery
2014-2017 Messi

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>>74304123
>Ribery

>>74304123
2010 should´ve been Sneijder

>1999 Rivaldo

But barca Luis Figo was better

>>74304123
>2013 Ribery

Ribery has not been worthy of consideration post 2010 m8

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cмepть хoхлocвиням

lol, retarded pigs incoming

Messi - every year from birth to death

>>74288537
shittiest post on /sp/ right now

Luis Suarez the last two times

>>74286465
you mean deco

>>74299077

https://youtu.be/febKZgIkzzY

>>74306378

Donaldo fanboy detected

Consider this for a second. Buffon and Maldini are the only 2 players to ever make every /sp/ dream XI ever, and both of them will never win the ballon d'or. How silly is that?

>he had a good career so he deserved it at some point
You need to be the BEST in the world to win that shit, for example, Xavi/Iniesta both had amazing careers but they were never better than Messi.

>>74307010

That's not always the case though. If it was given to the absolute best player based on ability the winners list would look like this >>74288537

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>>74288537
/thread

>>74299953
because you need to watch a full game to see the quality of a defender.
>>74300291
yeah but those are all the result of a previous defensie error or of the attacker almost beating the defense, and the defense having to scramble to save the situation.
With good positioning and space awareness there won't be need for any of that because the attacking player will have no option but to turn and pass back to sart again the action from midfield.

>>74307010
Why does being better than someone matter? Fucking asshole.

>>74291561
>le occasional blooter goal man

Confirmed for never seeing Lampard play. He was poacher, always in the right spot at the right time for a tap-in. There has never been a midfielder with a freaky striker's instinct like Lampard. When Lampard was in the box, it was like watching Inzaghi.

>>74306390
Has anyone ever been as clutch as Drogba?

ALl those final and semi-final goals. Have of his fucking Chelsea goals won trophies.

>>74288537
Zidane was pretty shit in 2001 and Henry has never been the best player in the world
Also 2006 is indisputably Cannavaro, he had the greatest individual performance by a CB in a World Cup

>>74288537
Every time I stay off /sp/ for a while, I wonder why I did that. Then i come back and see posts like this that remind me that /sp/ is full of kids who haven't watched football until 2 years ago.

>>74307807
he can thank his lucky stars Messi dry heaved that penulty onto the crossbar.

>>74308181
I've been watching sawker since 1947 m8

>>74299077
do you realize that the House is the defense and the attackers are those trying to destroy it?

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>>74307807
06-07 drogba was goat but 2012 drogba was most clutch

>>74301358
> flag
Every fucking time.

>>74310054
>nobody marking drogba
>suprised when mr clutch scores a goal

every fucking time

>>74291561
>le occasional blooter goal man
That's Gerrard, Lampard was the actual good player.

>>74294403
The British media hyped and gave to much attention.

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>>74310054
>watching Buyern get rekt in their own stadium

>>74307807
In 2004 he single-handedly took Marseille to the C3 final. Never had I seen a player so dominant in big games.

>Scores in both leg 1 & 2 of the round of 16
>Scores in leg 1 of the quartefinals, suspended for leg 2
>Scores two goals in leg 2 of the semifinals

Marseille finished SEVENTH in ligue 1 that year, and Drogba still managed to take them to a European final by himself.

>>74314216
Oh, and he also scored the only goal of the round of 32 confrontation.
Marseille fronted Liverpool, Inter, Newcastle, and still made it to the final thanks to Drogba and Drogba only. He was that good.