motor/sp/ort - Real Gerhart Hours Edition

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IT'S FINALLY TIME

>>74247424
>mmmmmMENCS

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Its almost time!

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oh shit nigga we in real gerhart hours

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>arca
>superspeedway
its going to be fun

For the second year in a row, the Daytona 500 has the smallest entry list ever

>>74250711
shhhhh it's good for the sport!

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Scheme of the year

>>74250738
Good goy

>>74250799
Too bad it'll miss the race
muh charter

>>74251703
It's up against BKR, TBR, and shitboxes from Rick Ware, Premium, and Beard.
Even with RAB's history of failing to qualify, I'd say they have a pretty good shot.

Top 5 in ARCA practice right now are Gragson, Hessert, Corr, Gerhart, Sargeant

Rain on Saturday gents

F

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hey senpaitachi

I am kinda new to this but isle of man TT really captivated me and I want to watch this year's in june live. where will the dedicated threads be on 4chan? so that it won't feel like I watch it alone

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Who /ragsinabox/ here

>>74252597

50% Chance and mainly focused on the evening time. Might get the ARCA race in (Or at least finishing distance) but sounds like the Clash won't make it and will be on the Sunday instead. Daytona weather in February can be weird though.

What is your race schedule for this season looking like lads?

I'm volunteering in the PR department at Charlotte for the ASR/Coke 600 and I talked to someone at Martinsville about doing the same thing for the Spring race

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reminder that this car won the 24 hours of Daytona

>>74253083
no rags this year ;_;

Are the ARCA practices or quals televised or streamed anywhere?

>>74253365
Nope, just timing on their website

>DPis Slowed in Post-Daytona BoP
Really makes me think

>>74253393
IMSACAR is shit

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what the FUCK is his problem?

>>74253536
autism

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>tfw will be too busy moving this weekend so I won't be able to watch any of it

>>74253307

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>>74254368
no

>>74250711
>wants more shitty backmarkers in a NASCAR

No, thanks.

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>>74254368
DELET THIS

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Good to see you lads. Been a while. Pretty excited for the cars to be on the track tomorrow.

Also, this is a fantastic read on Jr.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/18690840/dale-earnhardt-jr-returns-daytona-changed-man

>>74254368

it always stops raining when the sun goes down we'll be alright

>>74253031
We have motorsports general threads put out on thurs/fridays that list most of the motorsports times for the weekend.

On race day, there is usually a /turnleft/ thread posted for NASCAR/ARCA races about an hour before the start of any given race.

Just look for them, and you'll find them.

You've GOT to watch the ARCA race at Daytona this weekend, as it is among the best ARCA races of the year, due to the shear carnage that usually takes place. Those niggers are doing close to maximum F1 speeds, but they don't have nearly ANY of the F1 downforce packages, and are essentially driving rolling bricks. It's good shit.

See you on race day.

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>>74253083

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>>74254368

>>74254368
mother FUCKER

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Will they be racing with their headlights on this weekend?

>>74254658
thanks amerifriend

I will be back during the weekend

>>74254736
welcome back

ARCA is mostly pay drivers, right? even with the cut costs, I can't imagine a team being profitable without pay drivers.

>>74255905
That or family/self owned teams

>>74253536
>mfw potential joest and rebellion full time imsa efforts before this decade is over

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>"~25%" reduction in downforce but they've already made some of that back
>could be hitting +310kph at Fuji
get ready boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQrzvj8UOc8

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>cars on the track today

>>74254368

At the very least Sunday is forecast to be dry past the morning when the showery front clears off so there will be racing. Saturday evening is just a crapshoot. I think they will just about get the ARCA race in or will have to call it near the end (Or ARCA will ARCA and only call it after it rains on the back stretch and someone wipes out leading to ARCA Brakes) but the Clash likely isn't going to happen on Saturday night.

>new GT-R GT3 expected for 2018, still based on R35 platform

Really wondering when SRO is gonna step in and cap costs/solve the driver rating problem for GT3.

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in motogp news:
>pre-season testing is finished
>marquez and vinales set for a 2017 showdown
>lorenzo coming to grips with the ducati
>rossi is old and should retire

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https://vimeo.com/3658478

are nascar drivers the only people that shill sponsors 24/7? I don't know how people follow them on social media. do they get fined if they use their real personalities?

>>74260541
>do they get fined if they use their real personalities?
Yes actually

>>74260549

Unless you are Junior. Then you get away with anything.

Still respect the hell out of him for calling out his own sponsors for not backing Bowman last season and wanting >Sneak.

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>>74260541
>following people on social media

It's like you WANT to make advertising Jews richer...

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>>74260932
He's even allowed to shitpost on Twitter when he has to sit out the races.

Speaking of shilling, what do you guys make of the "le backflip man was paid to sit out this season and will go to Penske next year" story?

>>74253083
>Who /ragsinabox/ here

Always. Even when there are no rags, I will bring my own.

>>74262305
That """"story"""" wasn't even a story, just something someone made up

>random draw quali groups
I'm not sure if this is better or worse than seeded groups

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>this ARCA qualifying

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>Eligibility requirements for the Clash at Daytona are as follows: last years chase drivers, prior Clash at Daytona winners, pole winners from last season, and any driver with a vagina

Meaningless race.

"That was the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life" - ARCA radio chatter

>>74262582
So just another day for ARCA then

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>>74262305
>>74262323
bullshit aside, if Slim (and Daniel's father) wanted Suarez in cup i don't think he would have many problems paying the clause for finishing Carl's contract early

a Mexican driver in a series that endorsed Trump works as propaganda

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>JGR car on pole for ARCA

>>74262715
>other JGR car and a Venturini car withdrew
Really makes me think

>>74262742
It was an ARCA loophole, those drivers weren't old enough to do the actual race

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>gf excited for Daytona
>says shes tired of waiting
>tell her she doesn't need to wait any longer
>we can ARCA this week
>"What's ARCA?"
>mfw trying to explain ARCA

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>>74263013
>gf
Gross

>>74260541
>>74260549

Almost everywhere else, drives pay for the privilege of driving cars. Even F1 teams have pay drivers. Drivers in Nascar can make more money than many F1 drivers (I think Juan Pablo Montoya said that, or some other filthy foreigner)

That's changing now as Nascar, and motor sport in general is in a death spiral.

>>74263072
>That's changing now that the Jews have managed to squeeze as many shekels as possible out of Nascar, and motor sport in general, and have put them in a death spiral as a result

FTFY

>>74263013
fuck off normalfaggot

really shit tier stream here

http://www.vipleague.se/motorsports/456626/1/nascar---sprint-cup-(practice)-live-stream-online.html

Danica third (3rd!) in practice now!

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>>74263976

really weird seeing Harv in a Fusion

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Another practice stream filmed with a potato: http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/nascar-sprint-cup-practice-live-streaming

So many fucking Jewvertisements......

>not even an instalation lap for the JGR cars

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Neat to hear Penske-Honda in IMSA next year. Is a manufacturer entry limited to being the only team using a specific P2 as a base, or can there be more than one engine&bodykit applied to a P2?

>>74264341

toyoters are out now

>Toyota running a "new 2018 car"
>literally some new stickers and bumper molds
>new

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>>74264644
ABJGR's are LITERALLY obsessed.

Daytona 2007
>52 cars racing for 43 spots
Daytona 2017
>42 cars "racing" for 40 spots

>pit crews are pedestrians too

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>>74264770
scratch that

Daytona 2007
>SIXTY-ONE cars racing for 43 spots
Daytona 2017
>42 cars "racing" for 40 spots

posting footage of the GOAT era of the duels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oylALuq9iw

>>74264794
More like 26 cars racing for 8 spots in 2007 and 6 cars racing for 4 spots in 2017

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>>74264794
scratch that

Daytona 2007
>15 cars racing for spots, FORTY SIX pieces of shit "racing" to make up the back marker field

>>74247424
What the fuck kind of racing series is MENCS? Sounds like some bullshit low-tier ultra gimmicky no excitement series where 2 or 3 guys win every week
>oh wait

>>74253146
Planned trips to Toledo for ARCA and Eldora for Trucks. Might be doing Pocono or Michigan in June for Cup just to see what's different from last year

>gibbsfags will work together all race and ruin it

>>74265149
Teammates have worked together on superspeedways since at least 2001

>>74265110
You're thinking of F1...

>>74265149
it's danica's opportunity to save the day by crashing into them

>>74264770
>>74264794
Game 7 moments amiriteguis

>>74265110
quiet goy
buy toyota

>>74263219
I don't think there is a race series where all drivers are/were professional.

Nascar and F1 are close, but the bottom feeder tier teams always have to depend on Maldonado type pay drivers to survive.

if this post ends in 1-4 its a JGRWINSLOL year
if this post ends in 5-9 its a JIMMYWINSLOL year
if this post ends in 0 Junior wins the championship

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>>74265769

>>74265829
Acceptable. Least Jimbo isn't a total faggot

>>74265829
on another note, you and both know there will be fix in where Junior wins a championship before he retires. The ratings would be ridiculous, and France will be seen in his office in the infield of homestead covered in baby oil furiously fapping to the ratings hed receive

>>74265876

Nope.

Junior's done.

He's going to get wrecked again this season and have his brain scrambled, and then he'll call it because he doesn't want to end up like a vegetable before he's 60.

If he was smart, he wouldn't have come back, but he did it for his sponsors and his team.

>>74265208
>Since at least 1997
When >Sneak and the Hendrick bunch swept the podium

>>74265876
Jr's last chance was in 2014, i will be surprised if he doesn't retire (at least from cup) at the end of the season

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>>74260541

>arca had a higher entry list than all three nascar races

>>74267899
42 + 2 that never intended to race isn't really higher
The entry lists for Xfinity and Trucks also haven't been released yet

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>>74259612

>Satellite Ducatti teams faster than Ducatti Factory

What did they mean by this?

>>74263976

don't put it past them cheating her car up to """""""""""""""""Fix"""""""""""""""""""" ratings and attendance

>>74266149

forgot to quote

he will, this is his last year under contract and his brain probably cant take much more

>>74266067
>>74268824

Junior's even admitted in pre-season interviews that he's got the racing bug but he's fighting that he hasn't got much time left behind the wheel at the top level. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already decided to drop out of cup and is finishing out the season to stay in good graces with Hendrick but is probably going to retire and then hand over to Bowman.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if he said he's not going to stop racing because he's always talked about following his dad's plan of dropping down series instead because racing was in his blood. Dale Sr. wanted to just stop racing cup. Drop down to do a few Busch series and truck races while running his new team on the Sunday and then eventually just retire from main competition but occassionally go out with a late model for local track racing whenever he needed to get it out of his system or do the occasional endurance race. And I wouldn't be surprised if Junior took the same path in retiring from Cup this season but still running a few Xfinity and Truck races for his team.

>>74268940

I think deep down he's gotta know that he has so much going for him to end up like Dave Mirra. Over 300 Million net worth, a hot wife, go kart track on his property, a race team he owns, and much more.

I think he wants to give it one more go at the cup level and probably get into maybe a handful of races in Cup/NW/Trucks each year.

>>74268940

Dale Sr. had a HUGE hard-on for sportscar racing and if he hadn't died, he probably would've raced at Le Mans for Team Corvette for a while.

Junior is probably going into this season with the mindset of this year being his last big shot at a Cup title and if anything bad happens, he's walking away straight up and letting Bowman take over.

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>>74268962

Honestly, the writing is on the wall for Nascar too. It's meme fest with muh caution clocks and muh segments.

If they don't fix the schedule (more short tracks and road coruses) nobody will care in the near future.

I love Nascar but I'd be lying if I am not more excited for the 12 hours of sebring, Le Man's, Spa 12 Hour, Spa 24, etc.. And most of all V8 Supercars. The Rolex 24 and Bathurst 12 hour were both fantastic.

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>>74268815
>don't put it past them cheating her car up to """""""""""""""""Fix"""""""""""""""""""" ratings and attendance

Bitch has the fastest car in qualifying and lands the pole position during the 13' Daytona 500, which happens to be the first race of the first full time female driver in NASCAR since I don't know when, and after that race she can't land a top 10 start for the rest of the season. Hmmmmm....

Makes you wonder if the "conspiracy" people are right and NASCAR does indeed rig their shit from time to time.

>>74268982
>The Rolex 24 and Bathurst 12 hour were both fantastic.

This is true. I'm looking forward to Lemans again this year, too.

Last season was a big improvement over 15' due in large part to the reduction in down force, and they're continuing that trend this year.

I honestly think the race segments will enhance the racing due to the fact that the drivers will be working their asses off to get those extra points, as they're ALL needed to earn a championship. Not only are we going to see the usual suspects racing for the lead, but now those teams that have been hovering around the P10 position will be busting their balls more than they already do as well.

I think it's going to be a pretty good year.

>>74268982

Most drivers even said the problem with the schedule is that it's week to week and only one break for two and they should be only going once a year to some locations. Some even said they would compromise in having less dates on the regular season before the chase playoffs going week to week. But France gonna France. We have 36 now. A 20 race schedule in the regular season spread across a few weeks and a 10 date shootout for the chase would be better and make it interesting where there are returns like Daytona and Charlotte by running the road courses instead

I'm not mad at the stage stuff. It might be interesting to see how there's more at stake and how hard drivers are willing to push. That's interesting but the season is still the biggest problem.

>>74269037
>>74268815
>hurr they're gonna rig something for Danica any year now guise
How many years have you tards been saying this shit? Yes NASREF rigs outcomes to an extent with their inconsistent as a liberal caution usage, but they'renot getting involved with the cars. You really think they'd go to all that trouble to rig a pole for Danica that was determined by fractions of a second? Don't you think they would have won her a race or Junior a championship? A Hendrick or ECR engine wins the pole every fucking year at Daytona

>>74269169
>Nascar would never rig the most overhyped and unimportant qualifying session of the season
>just like they wouldn't throw 15 years of debris cautions

>>74269098

unfortunately all of the tracks currently on the schedule have 5+ year contracts in place. they could spice things up by using alternate layouts like you mentioned, but the current track roster is here to stay for years to come.

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>>74269098
>>74270512

I know Charlotte would be the most likely roval to be added to the schedule due to it's location and the local fanbase, but even with the new updates I think it is probably one of the worst road course configurations possible.

There's no room and it's got an uninspiring layout with a few hairpin loops tacked on to make it look slightly more entertaining. Those will be great for the club racing it's designed for but cup cars would look slow and boring as fuck on it.

All of the superspeedways have better infield courses or could expand them with additional room to spare. And then there's Homestead, which probably has the perfect infield layout (no running on the banking, which IMO may look embarrassing to NASCAR since the cars would look slow compared to oval running) but that'll never happen since they probably couldn't pull a big enough crowd. In an ideal world we'd go to Homestead for the road course in week 2 or 3 and then come back for the end of the season.

>>74271595
still better than the charlotte oval at this point fampai

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>tfw no more brian scott cautions

>>74264540
A manufacturer must partner with a chassis constructor. Because of packaging and other reasons, engines and bodywork are limited to P2 supplier. I'm guessing ORECA is the leading constructor because they're not partnered with any factory efforts yet.

>>74271595
The road course layout with the banking is probably a better fit for NASCAR.

Practice is about to get going on FS2

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he will get a win this year

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>>74272661
>FS2

>Bowyer is fastest so far

Bet he's happy to be in a good car again.

>>74272661
i guess i'll miss the practice

Roush cars look good

>>74273004

Moves to fs1 in ten minutes

First (1st) DUBREE caution of the year!!!

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L A N D O N

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>can't pass inspection

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>78 already having probs in inspection

>>74272947
Him and Danica won't have 2 top 5 and 10 top 10 between them. Tony must have some serious brain damage to put a plate and fuel mileage babby who hasn't been good in 5 years in his car

>Gibbs car already busted for cheating

>>74273810

Tony wanted Larson but couldn't get him.

Also, what will the conspiracy theory be if someone other than Earnhardt/Suarez/Kurt wins the pole?

>>74273810
Danica is one of the most marketeable drivers, as long as she can bring money to pay the bills she will have that seat

just remember that she came to nascar because the sponsor wanted,godaddy won races with hinchcliffe and still finished the sponsorship

they changed the rules for inspection this year. seems like a positive.
>The updates also detail the schematics of a new pre-race inspection protocol, which requires that vehicles must proceed through all four inspection stations, regardless of whether issues are found in any stage in the process. Fixes must now be made in each team's garage stall, rather than off to the side of any given station, and then vehicles must proceed through all four inspection sites again.

they changed the system of penalties from P1-P6 (i think??) to a system where harsh penalties are graded L1-L2. and they plan on giving out more penalties during the weekend/before/during the race for those infractions than during the week, not that the mid-week penalties will be going away.
http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/articles/2017/2/16/nascar-announces-new-deterrence-penalty-policy.html

>Under the updated deterrence model, there is now the possibility that pre-race infractions could result in penalties being handed down during the event. In other words, minor infractions found during race weekend will result in an immediate penalty instead of carrying over into the next event.
>Among the potential penalties at the track: loss of hard cards, loss of practice time, loss of pit stall selection, tail of the field, a green flag pass-through and a green flag stop-and-go.
http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/138225-nascar-updates-penalties-for-inspection

Obligatory Gerhart threatens to quit ARCA yearly article

http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/matt-tifft-welcomes-different-chapter-qualifies-second-for-arca-race-at-daytona-021817

>second Gibbs car caught cheating

>Roush cars P1-2

NASCAR IS TRYING TO PUSH THE "ROUSH RESURGENCE" NARRATIVE!!! RIGGED!!!!!!!!

>>74274179
>Eight-time Daytona winner Bobby Gerhart will start 21st. Gerhart won six of eight ARCA races at Daytona between 2005 and 2012, but he’s winless in the series the last four years. And he wasn’t pleased with the qualifying format, which grouped drivers in six-car packs based on a random draw. With drafting being such an issue at Daytona, getting paired with slow cars meant no shot at landing the pole or a spot near the front.

<“Probably the dumbest thing I’ve seen happen right there in 30 years,” Gerhart said. “I think I’d be better served just going to the casino and taking my chances there. Seriously… It’s just ridiculous. You’ve got the best car in the group and you can’t even get a shot at the pole. I think we’re entitled to that.”

>The 58-year-old Gerhart, making his 30th ARCA start at Daytona, is trying to become the oldest superspeedway winner in stock car history.

>“If it doesn’t change, I’ll be gone because this ain’t no fun,” Gerhart said. “I want to try to control what I do, and I think when you spend this kind of money and take this serious, a guy needs to be in his own position of control.”

>>74272203

DiBurrito has his old ride and team this season, though. So at least something good came out of it.

>>74269169

All I'm saying is that she's the only driver to land a pole position that then later failed to achieve a top 10 qualifying position the rest of the season, and that just seems odd.

Drivers with the skill and equipment to make pole ALWAYS have the skill and equipment to land in the top 10, if not top 5, for qualifying sometime throughout the season. Patrick went from 1st, down to the 30's, 40's, 20's, and never got higher than 11th after her pole position at Daytona. This supports the idea that NASCAR allowed her to run a different plate on her car for qualifying, and probably the race, for that individual race...which she fucked up regardless, because she's not a good racer.

>>74273810

Bowyer is also good on road courses and short tracks. He'll win races in the 14.

With Penske and SHR, Ford might be the manufacturer to beat before long. That's a lotta resources.

>>74274830
Blaney was running well last year too, so maybe the Ford GT program sparked a new interest in winning races in NASCAR again?

what happened to Mears?

>>74275072
cucked by Richard Childress

>>74275072
Guess he got pulled because he sucked?

>>74275072
paw paw bought him out for Ty

>>74272324
>A manufacturer must partner with a chassis constructor.

I know. What I'm asking is, is can two manufacturers use one chassis supplier? Reason being, there's four of the sortaspec P2s to start from and three are in use in DPi already (via Cadi, Nissan, Mazda) so if a P2 tub can't have two non-Gibsons in it by IMSA rule than Honda-Penske is the fourth of four possible manufacturers.

>>74268940
>We could have had Dale Sr in the Craftsman truck era rubbing fenders with Hornaday, Musgrave, Bodine, and Hamilton while they bully rookies.

why live

>>74262696
Nascar fans will love to hate this spic

When is the ARCA race

>>74263520
>tfw no gf

Fuck off wizard

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Light but substantial rain heading towards Daytona Beach right now that will hit likely before the start of the ARCA race and will clear just after dark. ARCA Race is likely off and will run tomorrow. Clash will still run at 8:24 pm and NASCAR's confident they get get the track dry in time.

>>74275771

Engine command at 4pm and green flag at 4:15 but it's very unlikely to happen

>>74275735

inb4 he wins the 600 and the Firecracker 400

>>74275735
>Nascar fans will love to hate this spic

they already do lol

>>74264736
Dafaq?! That's disturbing

>>74275072

Going to be running NXS for Childress part-time in the #3 car. Expect an announcement next week.

>>74268755
Wow has she aged... She way hotter back then when she was in open wheel/Busch, I mean Nationwide, no I mean Xfinity Series.

if they push back the ARCA race for the Clash, NASCAR's gonna see these hands

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>>74275915
>live 8AM tomorrow
>only on FS2!

>>74275915

Remember the last time the ARCA race was cut short so the Clash could start on-time?

>>74275915

It's gonna get pushed. Daytona takes about 2-3 hours to dry. Better to do it tomorrow when it's guaranteed dry instead of getting cucked by the clash again.

>>74273674
Forgot to change the Sprint Cup logo to Monster, anon.

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>mfw ARCA runs the full length and a crash on the last lap damages the catchfence and ruins the Clash

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>Cucked by paw paw Childress for Ty Ty

Rocks fashy haircut on Race Hub

Rainbands are breaking up. Drizzle at the track currently. ARCA could have a green track to start but there is more rain behind on the west coast that could be in play by the end of the race.

Gonna be a tight one.

>>74276154
i'll miss the start Füg:D

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your 2017 champ :^)

>>74276327
Champion of 22nd place

>adam alexander isn't commentating arca
thank fuck

>austin theriault is in arca
Getting injured fucked his career

ARCA thread
>>74276323
>>74276323

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>forgot to buy beer
FUCK

The shootout is at 5 what the fuck?

>Never was big into nascar or any autosports
>father loved watching every race until recently
>my grandfather I never met was on a pit crew for Elmo Langley and would take my dad to all the races when he was young
>my father passes away a few months ago
>looking at all his old nascar photos and memorabilia
>feel like im letting the family down by not watching

Rough times boys.

>>74276672
If it makes you feel better both would probably hate points system and go on about not muh points system

>>74276054
>safer barrier damaged with 5 to go
Close enough

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>>74274714
I have always wondered about this. I don't think NASCAR was above a little WWE tier manufactured drama in order to save their sagging TV ratings. In order to make a more informed conclusion I'd have to know just how many individuals would need to collude to make such a thing happen. It's a conspiracy theory, all right, but if you told me in 2014 that the Patriots were throwing deflated footballs I would have called you nuts.

NASCAR Clash Thread?

Will there be a CLASH thread?

>>74278789
Still 3/4 of a bong, lads. Chill.

I predict Carl will be back as a full time driver within 2 years.

will there be crashes tonight?

So all the teams are using their own equipment for this nothing to gain race? That seems crazy

>>74278905

Definitely. Everyone brought a car just for this race so it's not like they gotta save it. Expect lots of big moves and a crash or two.

>>74279120
>>74279120

go go go

>>74278461
They probably told SHR to put a larger plate on her car, and told the inspection teams to ignore it, "for the good of the sport", of course.

>>74278461
Nascar is in a death spiral

>hardcore fans upset at foolish rules
>remaining fans are getting older
>not able to attract new fans
>lower attendance and ratings
>lower prize and sponsor payouts
>more teams going bust
>races get even more boring
>more stupid rules changes

To be fair, even F1 us having trouble with ratings and attendance. So it could be a cultural shift away from motor sport.

>>74280060
>So it could be a cultural shift away from motor sport.
I disagree. I think people just don't want to watch cars drive in circles 100 times.

IoM TT is growing. I think this kind of racing has a great future.

>>74282708
>people just don't want to watch cars drive in circles 100 times.

Try 200+ times newfag.

IoM TT is a YouTube sensation, not a viable motorsport.

>>74282890
Except that the attendance is increasing every year and they get more and more money.

Fontaine has an L1 vertebrae compression fracture

>>74280060
Actual on track racing has improved over the last 5 years. Granted, the format manufacturers the drama so the excitement isn't as authentic.

Instead of more complications in the points system, a simplification was desperately needed. These new new changes will only turn away even more hardcore dying boomers.

But Culturally that may not be a bad thing... The boomers allowed Nascar sponsers to go from Cigarettes and Beer to Cell Phones and Insurance.... From Risk and great Reward to Safety and Political Correctness.... From the good ol' boy good times and blue collar drivers to inclusiveness and diversity outreach programs.


I am hopeful Monster Energy will bring back a certain edginess to the sport that has been severely lacking it since the Winston Era. Aligning themselves with Trump was wise as well, the pendulum is swinging and soon Negro fatigue will grasp the majority of true 'Muricans and send them running back to the warm white blanket of Nascar.

Much like the fall of the West, the fall of Nascar will do well to separate the true racers and race fans from muh corporate interests who only care about the shekels.

Fin

>>74282708
>I think people just don't want to watch cars drive in circles 100 times.

Racing is an acquired taste, and regardless of whether it's on an oval, or on a road course, most people these days just don't have the patience for it anymore.

One of the things I like the most about NASCAR races is the fact that they're long as fuck, compared to most others, and it really tests the consistency of the driver, their equipment, and their team.

Regardless, understanding, and actually appreciating, what goes on in any kind of racing isn't for everybody, and like horse racing, the crowd will undoubtedly keep getting smaller over time.

>>74280060

>So it could be a cultural shift away from motor sport

Sadly I think there's some truth to this considering that Millenials were all taught that cars were evil because muh emissions and that racing was a waste of muh resources

If the sport has any hope at all, it's in Suarez. Latin America LOVES their race car drivers. I can still remember the cheers Adrian Fernandez used to get when they ran Busch races in Mexico City.

>>74283091
That nigger's lucky to be alive with that impact.

That shit was pretty much head on.

>>74283239
10/10

The long green flag runs were exciting for me too, watching someone who is .10/sec faster a lap slowly and methodically cut down the interval to next guy ahead was beautiful to watch. Given you have all the telemetry available, TV coverage is always focused on the lead when most of ghe good battles are mid-pack.

More in-car viewing options and customizable viewing expirences would be great for the sport. Imagine a VR app that puts you in the cockpit, watching the entire race real-time from the drivers POV or any camera of the viewers choice.

Of course, this would be bad for muh TV, so start a subscription based service. Cutting the cord would also boost attendance at the races.

Forget the average sports ball pleb ( I fucking HATE when Nascar tries to use "playoffs" or "super bowl of racing" bullshit), focus on serving the base. Like Trump, don't bend and betray your loyalists just to show artificial growth that benefits no one but muh corporate interests.

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>>74283744
I WANT A WALL, NOT A BRIDGE

MAKE NASCAR GREAT AGAIN !!!

M N G A
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G
A

>>74283744
>More in-car viewing options and customizable viewing expirences

That's what I want.

Every fucking car should be rigged with cameras, and you should be able to pay to get access to them during race day, or for a season, and you should be able to switch from car to car, to view to view. I'd pay for that shit in a heartbeat. I'd have a season pass for NASCAR, probably IMSA, and definitely for the 24 hours of Daytona, Lemans, Nurburgring, and the 12 hours of Bathurst.

>>74284129
nope, let's just fix a camera facing the driver that doesn't show jack shit

https://twitter.com/IMPUL_official/status/832503057950732288
>Jann Mardenborough is now a GT500 racer for Calsonic IMPUL
It's still hard to believe he was just racing on Gran Turismo not long ago.

I'm a dumb drunk NEET virg

was the clash rained out ?

>>74285297
Yes, nigger, it was.

Race starts tomorrow at 1135 EST.

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>>74285457
ok

wat time is the race today lads

>>74285762

Starter command at 11:30am. Green Flag about 11:35.

>>74283162

Monster Energy are huge Millenials mixed with old Gen X advertising while also being part owned by Coke these days. They are better racing sponsors and will help the sport, but they aren't going to cut millenial bullshit like NASCAR Green and Drive For Diversity cause they are a huge international brand compared to Sprint and they are going to keep that up.

Expect shit like the Grid girls to stay and the sport to actually progress in terms of actual racing because they have way more reasons to commit to it but don't expect the millennial bullshit to die down.

CLAS(S)H Thread'

>>74288679
>>74288679
>>74288679

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FIRST

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This nigger can drive.

>>74293747
>hendrick plate car

car drove him

some autistic statics:
>the best finish for the pole sitter since 2001 was 5th in 2001, and for the outside pole was 2nd in 2010
>last winner from pole was in 2000, and from outside pole 1993
i
n other words Elliott and Jr are pretty much doomed

2001:5-10
2002:15-36
2003:39-36
2004:12-7
2005:15-5
2006:32-26
2007:8-26
2008:27-29
2009:11-10
2010:12-2
2011:24-28
2012:8-3
2013:8-20
2014:18-43
2015:33-5
2016:37-14

>>74294176

>t. Kasey Kahne

>>74294387
Qualifying spot doesn't matter much in any NASCAR race, unlike F1 where pole wins 60% of the races, and nobody ever wins starting outside of P3 or 4.

>>74294658
>Qualifying spot doesn't matter much in any NASCAR race
Yes it does.

When you're up at the front you don't waste time fighting with others in traffic and you're less likely to get involved in some sort of accident.

>>74297823

yes and no

if you built the car for short runs, than you want to be up front, if you built it for longer runs and fewer stops to adjust it (trackbar, wedge, etc etc) then you want to start in back

the short-run guys are going to go balls out in the opening laps, the longer run guys are going to take it easy until say 90 to go

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>>74297823
>Yes it does.

Nah....

Those are two valid points, but start position really isn't much of a game changer in this series, and especially on the longer tracks.

Race victories ran from P1 to P24 last year, and Jimmie Johnson won from P37 in 15'. We're constantly seeing the good drivers go a lap down, get back on the lead lap, and score top 10 finishes, and sometimes even a victory.

I think starting up front is more important on the short tracks and the road courses, but at the 1.5 milers and above, the drivers don't gain much of an advantage.

That might change this year with the new bonus system, though.

Winged sprint car got up over the Turn 2 fence at a WOO race tonight. There's a lifeflight at the track but not finding much else so far.
https://twitter.com/WylieMoran99/status/833506935643242496

>>74299925
Shit, ok the car was Dale Blaney's and it got up in the grandstands

>>74299984
ban assault cars

>>74299984
F

#BREAKING Crash at Volusia Speedway Park in Deleon Springs. 3 hurt including 1 flown to hospital. #FOX35 crew is on the way. Latest at 10.
https://twitter.com/FOX35Tom/status/833508481550450689

>>74299925
Apparently it's not the first time a car went over/through the fence this WEEK
https://youtu.be/vPZ7aJZW_Sg?t=106

video
https://twitter.com/mdezthejoker13/status/833520285445918720

>>74303859
Here's a vid that works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TZtbFBojYs

Anyone have a video of the blaney crash that WRG hasn't wiped from the internet?

>>74298489

Jimmie also won the cup last year after being sent to the rear at Homestead (After failing the tech inspection so he wouldn't be able to go to grid) so he basically ran from 40th and still won. They had that car set up for long stints and being able to adjust and it paid off.

>>74305894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkQgylMl4w8

>>74309649
fug, looks like it got maybe 2-3 people? 1 person looks like he's moving on the right

>>74299925
>>74300300
>>74309649
lel at the *****safety standards***** there - the on-track barrier is shorter than the right rear tire, then some grass, then some urban-schoolyard-tier chainlink, then people standing around. Yeah obviously that's totally fine considering the cornering speeds of wing cars.

>>74311158
I went to a dirt race at a pretty well known track, and NOPE'd my way up into the higher sections of the grandstand when I saw the fencing.

>>74293747
He does have more peripheral vision

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Page nine already?

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So when are they going to shitcan the "clash", and the "duels"?

WASTE OF FUCKING TIME.

WASTE OF MONEY ON CRASHED CARS.

They should just qualify and race the 500 instead of the meaningless shit show they've been doing.

>>74315960

Teams want the Clash and the Duels because it gives them a chance to figure out setups in a live race situation without points on the line and Drivers go hard because they need to push the limits and get Data for the rest of the season. Krut said it in his post-crash interview that he was annoyed that they didn't get the data they wanted and the car got wrecked but that was the clash.

Plus if you crash out during either, you have tons of time for to tweak your main car before the duels and 500 and teams are allowed use a different car in the clash compared to the one they have to use for Qualifying, the duels and the feature race. Most teams entered in the clash bring three.

>>74315960

gr8 b8 m8

oh sweet jesus, ESPN killed Jayski

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>>74321156
>Go to Jayski
>It's now just an ESPN NASCAR page
You've got to be fucking kidding

>>74321156
Fuck I had a bad feeling when he said a new design was coming.
RIP in piece, the site had been getting worse anyways.

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Any other Edwards fans here? It's finally starting to set in. I don't know what to do now.

>>74321193
It had already gone corporate, he stopped posting straight-up rumors and just regurgitated press releases

>and now reddit is going the same direction

>>74321204
It's for the better, man. He got out before NASCAR fell.

>>74321209
>reddit

Did he get rid of the news/rumors archives? I liked being able to go back and read about how Big Daddy's fucked over Donlavey Racing and whatnot.

everything is shit

>>74321156
God I fucking hate ESJW. Now where the fuck can I go for news and paint schemes and shit

>infinite scrolling page
>no navigation links to the any of jayski's sections, only to every fucking other sport, team, and espn propaganda site
>unrelated sports and stories show up if you scroll too far
>auto playing videos
Web 2.0 was a mistake.

>>74322974
Paint schemes hasn't been wiped yet
http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/schemes/2017/story/_/id/18640109/2017-nascar-cup-series-paint-schemes
But I'm surprised there haven't been copyright complaints since most of the pictures are just Lionel renders that Jayski puts his watermark on.

lmao everything is going to shit

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>>74321156
I just looked at it. Everything i loved in life is dying.

>>74321156

god fucking damnit. it's terrible.

everything is terrible these days.

Anyone else get the feeling NASCAR is primed to hit a new wave of popularity

>>74333846
No

>>74333864
Idk man I've been seeing a lot of hype about the upcoming race and Dale jr. Making the rounds on every single sports show

if anyone cares, Jeff Gluck just went in HARD on Brian France

http://jeffgluck.com/brian-france-nascar-leadership-wall-street-journal/

>>74337021

Some of the stuff from the WSJ sounds pretty damning.

The idea that France sold his stake and only goes to half the races (at which he still stays out of the public eye), especially. It's no wonder that he is apparently completely out of touch with reality.

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i dont get how people can follow nascar drivers

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>>74337021

>>74340164

Just follow Landon Cassil and Dale Jr since they are god tier shitposters. Everyone else is either boring, shilling or both

>>74333871
Maybe, but when the time comes, no one will tune in.

>>74348927
They'll tune in....just not to network TV.

>>74349140
I think you overestimate the number of people who watch illegal streams

Trucks on track

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R3IKujFMGo

>competition caution for tire wear for a heat race, on a repaved track

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>74354993
>>74354993
>>74354993

>>74247424

>sevenfourtwofoursevenfourtwofour

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>having to wait this long for WEC races
its literally all I like