/nfl/ general - THROWBACK edition

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1st for Pats

>>74225113
nth for fuck the pats

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TYBC

&

Go Raiders!

Would you want your team to get one ring and be irrelevant for 15 years like the Ravens/Flacco?

Or would you want your team to have a small chance, but a chance, at 15 years of relevance, and maybe 2 rings, but maybe 0 rings?

Free my nigga Aldon

>>74225123
The most cucked tripfag on /sp/ everyone

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>>74225123
reminder that the division is not and will never be "up for grabs"

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>FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Logan Schoenhardt, the terminally ill 10-year-old fan whose connection with New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was profiled on ESPN's E:60 in December, died Monday night.

>Schoenhardt, of Connecticut, had been diagnosed with a brain tumor when he was 3. As he underwent multiple surgeries, radiation treatments and rounds of chemotherapy over the next six years, his passion for the Patriots and Brady provided him happiness.

>"He knows he's never going to play football, which he would dearly love to do. So he lives through them, especially Brady," Jo Schoenhardt, Logan's mother, said in the E:60 feature.

>The Patriots passed along their condolences with a post on Twitter and a statement from team owner Robert Kraft.

Rest in peace

He hung on just long enough to watch Brady pull off the greatest comeback in NFL history

>>74225179
F

>>74225178
never say never

it may not be this or the next year, but one day it'll happen and I'll laugh my ass off.

>>74225193

>>>/tumblr/

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>>74225189
>tfw Bills win the division out of nowhere

>>74225179
F

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...............

>>74225179
F

>>74225189
Yeah but by then Brady will have won 7 and become an immortal.

>>74225250
S K E E U P
K
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>>74225250
Skip you are the man!!! Love the new show on FS1!!!!

>“I just love working hard, I love being part of a team, I love working toward a common goal,” he said. “Being on the bus ride after the games, being in the team pictures, that’s what you’ll miss.”

GOAT

>>74225179
F

At least he got to see them win another superbowl

>>74225178
Oh, the Patriots downturn is coming. Same with Pittsburgh. Basically, the teams that had the ELITE QBs and dominated the playoffs for over 15 years will watch those QBs retire. Then the NFL will enter a dark age of nothing but spread QBs trying to master a certain type of offense. In turn, coaching philosophies will need to change. An influx of new coaches will prompt posts of "Literally who?" As the spread offense becomes less and less of a meme and more of the SOP. Once in a blue moon, a pro-style QB will pop up and be good, but the entire landscape is changing, just be prepared.

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>>74225302
So this is how the NFL dies, dominated by meme qbs

>>74225302
people said the same thing when marino/elway/troy/moon/young all retired in like a 3 year span and thought vick was going to change the nfl.

remember akili smith and quincy carter and vince young?

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Aaron Rodgers!

>>74225357
cute

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Browns
2. Mitch Trubisky, QB, 49ers
3. Jonathan Allen, DT, Bears
4. Jamal Adams, S, Jaguars
5. Mike Williams, WR, Titans
6. Leonard Fournette, RB, Jets
7. Reuben Foster, LB, Chargers
8. Malik Hooker, S, Panthers
9. Derek Barnett, DE, Bengals
10. Deshaun Watson, QB, Bills
11. Solomon Thomas, DE, Saints
12. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Browns
13. Teez Tabor, CB, Cardinals
14. Dalvin Cook, RB, Eagles
15. Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Colts
16. Marlon Humphrey, CB, Ravens
17. Malik McDowell, DT, Redskins
18. Sidney Jones, CB, Titans
19. John Ross, WR, Buccaneers
20. OJ Howard, TE, Broncos
21. Zach Cunningham, ILB, Lions
22. David Njoku, TE, Dolphins
23. Deshone Kizer, QB, Giants
24. Jabril Peppers, DB/LB, Raiders
25. Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texans
26. Cam Robinson, OT, Seahawks
27. Corey Davis, WR, Chiefs
28. Takkarist McKinley, OLB, Cowboys
29. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Packers
30. Taco Charlton, DE, Steelers
31. Tim Williams, OLB, Falcons
32. Forrest Lamp, OG, Patriots

>>74225325
The spread offense was in its infancy then. Now it's the norm and what is coached at every level from pee-wee football, thru Jr high, HS, college, and now it's beginning to take shape in the NFL. It's only a matter of time. The NFL has had to adapt in the past when a new pervasive form of scheme comes along. People once joked that the forward pass was a meme and would never catch on, then Paul Brown introduced what would turn into the West Coast offense (perfected and tuned by Bill Walsh, Brown's protege). It was considered a gimmick offense. I know it might be hard to accept at first. Nobody likes change, but the wheels of progress cannot be stopped.

>>74225394
>OG
Unless he's an elite center, no.

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>>74225302
Don't worry. There is already a beacon of radiant hope that will bathe the heretics in a light of traditional football warmth. Blessed be the Cowboys who are already beginning to show some teams the light.

>>74225448
he can play center

>tfw 0 zero (none) good nfl games

>>74225451
Tiki, no shit man, when you coming back to /MLB/ to post about the >rags and Yu Darvish's 2017 CYA and Beltre's Top 5 status?

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>>74225394
>29. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Packers

>>74225480
Soon

>>74225394
>Adams
well, it'd be (hopefully) an upgrade from Cyprien

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>>74225376
Aaron Rodgers is basically an anime girl
nice, harmless but incredibly self centered.
he even has a Mary Sue thing going on with being near perfect on a superficial level and his major adversity being poor luck.
not too mention major feminine elements of his personality, although he has some pretty intense masculine elements such as absurd resolve and persistence.

basically he's an incredibly talented but hapless anime tomboy with moderate confidence issues that "he" (she) trys to cover up with a half sincere cocksure attitude, which is match with godly resolve.

>>74225394
not at all sure its the right move but imo Packers are 90% signing Lacy
50% chance its a 1 year prove it thing

give GB a corner

>>74225061
>NYJ: '60 percent' chance Jets cut Brandon Marshall

We'll take him

>>74225604
the Ravens really, really like aged receivers

I hate this time of year. When does FA start?

>>74225179
F

>>74225621
March.

>>74225442
remember the wildcat offense?

some things catch on, some things do not.

>>74225616
Especially when they get cut and signing them doesn't count towards our juicy compensatory picks

>>74225621
March 10th iirc

why is /nfl/ tripfag city?
When will trpfags kill themselves?
Why try to not be anonymous an an anonymous website? Why do they need attention? Why do attention whores exist tbqh?

>>74225672
parents didn't love them

>>74225653
Belichick getting meme'd on hard will always be the wildcat offenses greatest achievement

>>74225672
namefriend>anon>tripcodefaggot

undisputed

>SF: Colin Kaepernick 'open to returning' to 49ers

I'd go tubing in the Oroville Dam spillway if it meant Kaepernick wouldn't return to the 49ers.

>>74225653
The wildcat is just a single play set, the spread is an entire offense. Big difference. The type of QB so coveted in the NFL is getting rare to the point of extinction. It's easy to see based on what teams are willing to pay even mediocre veterans at this point just due to their experience in a specific style of play. The newer crops of QBs are less and less experienced in complicated reads, line calls, play changes, looking off defenders, etc. They just aren't coached that way anymore because the spread read offense doesn't need it.

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>>74225726
Looks fun tbqh senpai

>>74225653
And it's going to come down to more small college QBs getting a shot (as some of those schools still run a pro-style, especially at Div II or FCS). Which actually isn't a bad thing, it's just the next evolution. Everything changes at some point. You can't stop it, you can't fight it, all can do is accept it, adapt, and move forward.

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Rate the Valentines day message I sent my gf /sp/

>>74225726
I was looking at stats the other day and Kaepernick's numbers were better than I thought they'd be

16:4 td/int ratio

90.7 rating

not knocks my sock off stats but did he actually play that well or do the numbers lie?

numbers

>>74225737
I'll believe it when I see it. There are still plenty of young quartebacks able to pick up pro offenses. Mariota had a lot more on his plate in year 2 when everyone was saying he'd be limited because of his spread offense background. There might be a bigger learning curve but the limitations of the spread offense won't give teams that rely on it a competitive edge.

>>74225822
Numbers lie. He was shit.

>>74225818
cringed a bit desu

>>74225818
fuck off, normie

>>74225822
those numbers dont tell you he throws for like 26 times a game and gets sacked 4 times and fumbles on average

>>74225822
Never said it was impossible to learn, but you're going to find less that do now as opposed to 10-15 years ago when college offenses were still primarily running offenses more akin to the pro style. Even NFL scouts have admitted that just evaluating QBs now is more of a challenge than it has ever been.

>>74225573
Draft is deep in CB, expect one in the second if you don't get one in the first, then again you can say the same for RB.

How do you guys make it to the next NFL season without suicide?

>>74225944
pretty much this, mcaffrey is a higher rated prospect than any CB you could have gotten there

he's also a weapon in the passing game and on special teams

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Bill here, taking offers on Gronkowski, give me your best shot.

Deals involving 7th round picks, players from Rutgers and overlooked white 3rd stringers will be taken into extra consideration

>>74225934
I agree that it's harder to evaluate qbs, and there will be more busts but the jump in competition from the college game to pro game is enormous.

a lot of successful college programs can win games in simple systems because there's a huge gap in talent between some teams.

a spread offense won't have sustained success on a pro level.

>>74225179

F

Is David Johnson the best offensive weapon in the NFL right now?

>>74226088
yes

>>74225967

FA: unusual deal from the Pats will send Gronkowski to the 16 worst teams in the league for one game each over the next NFL regular season in exchange for all 16 of those teams 7th round draft picks.

>>74225995
I don't see any evidence to the contrary that it won't. Speed of defensive linemen isn't a factor here because offensive lines exist.

>>74225967

>trading Gronk

Too crazy even for Bill

>>74226118
Unless you are a cam newton tier genetic freak most qbs can't run through defenders and the ones that try get hurt a lot.

its not just the defensive linemen, every player on the defense in the pro game is faster.

>>74226127
Haha yeah, not even Bill would trade pro bowlers like Vinatieri, Collins, Mankins, Welker or Gronkowski, those guys are untouchable

>>74225822
He couldn't complete passes in the second halfs of games. He played scared to protect his numbers. He can't go through a progression amd just run if the first guy isn't open. He has no accuracy and when it happens to be accurate he throws a 5 yard pass 90mph. He fucking sucks.

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hmm

>have two big body receivers everybody says are great
>Ted Ginn is still the best receiver on the team
when will people realize Kelvin Benjamin sucks?

>>74226174
And those are the type of QBs that will thrive in the systems that implement the spread. That's my whole point. There just aren't many pocket passers around anymore, and they'll be moving towards extinction in the future. Either teams will go through turmoil trying to teach multiple spread QBs to run a "traditional" pro-style, or they'll slowly adapt the spread into their game plan until it eventually takes over as a primary offense. That's how the NFL has evolved. Basically you're saying any creativity died in the 1980s and they are never going to change again.

>>74225394
Packers need a linebacker

>>74226187

We had replacements for all of those. Gronk and Brady can't be replaced.

>>74225394
I'm still holding hope that Fournette will still be around and the Panthers pick him
Stewarts getting old and they'll need a replacement soon

>>74226259
Eyeing a few replacements in the 5th or 6th round, need to stock up on picks so 1 can trade down and get him and still have enough 7th rounders to fill out the defensive back depth.

Whats your offer? and it better not end in "pending a physical"

>>74226238
the only two ILBs i think deserve to go in the first round were gone by that point
>>74226277
i think that's the most likely outcome really, i just got bored of mocking that.

it's one of those scenarios that fits ridiculously well, since the panthers rely on their power running game and a talent like fournette is only magnified with the threat of newton in the backfield

>>74225394
>7. Reuben Foster, LB, Chargers

I'm kind of sour on him, too, with the news of his surgery.

>>74226303

Nothing. We have Gronk under contract for a song and he's already fully trained in the Pats offense. I'd rather have Gronk for 8 games than anyone else for 16

>>74226229
>And those are the type of QBs

who? cam newton? Cam Newton is an outlier. You say pocket passers are scarce but guys with his combination of speed and size are really really fucking rare. Cam's mvp season was also, not by coincidence, his best season by FAR as a pocket passer. He was always a freak, but he put together his whole game which was the difference.

>There just aren't many pocket passers around anymore

we've just seen derek carr break out and as a result the raiders went 12-4. Pocket Passers WIN which is why they won't be going away. They give the competitive edge teams need. a pocket passer just won mvp, and a pocket passer just won a super bowl. Pocket Passers will be stay out of NECESSITY to win.

There are certainty elements of the spread offense being incorporated but it's been that way for a few years. It will never be the primary offense though for a good team due to it's limitations. I mean the patriots offense is so diverse they are able to do about anything. Limiting yourself to one type of offense because it's easy for your rookie to learn won't work once teams have enough film on them.

Heh, the Chargers' ticket prices for the upcoming season is actually more expensive than the Rams' tickets.

>The Los Angeles Chargers released season ticket prices for their first season at the StubHub Center. It is easily the smallest NFL stadium seating only 30,000 people. The small supply of seats is reflected in the pricing. In fact, the Chargers’ most expensive seat which clocks in at $375 per game is $150 more than the most expensive seat at a Rams game.

?Tickets will actually start at $70 and the average price of a ticket will be $192. That is significantly more than the average price of a Rams game which came out to $104. The Rams, of course, have a seating capacity more than triple that of the Chargers.

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>>74226322
i actually didn't know about his surgery until you just told me. he's gonna miss the combine, that'll tank his stock a lot.

well that mock looks silly now

>>74226397
If Barnett is there for the Chargers, I wouldn't be shocked if they took him.

Though, they might make a surprise pick like Budda Baker.

>>74225718
anon>anything else

if you disagree then you're a redditor that needs to fuck off

>>74226441
namefriends = friends and if you disagree you are obviously trying too hard and have little actual experience with the topic at hand

>>74226434
depending on which QBs go before pick 7, which i see at a maximum of 3, the chargers will probably have a choice between jamal adams/malik hooker, mike williams, and marshon lattimore/teez tabor.

there is also the option of reaching for ryan ramczyk or someone like barnett, but i'm not sure you get the most value there. is there any chance they might trade down?

>>74226464
upboated

>>74226484
ebin posts dont at all devalue a legitimate point

classic newfig mistake

>it's an "/sp/ overrates Carr" episode
His stats are the very definition of average

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>>74226494
>redditor calling anyone a newfag

You've already been exposed, no need to make this worse

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You can actually pinpoint the moment his career started to go downhill

>>74226499
I think he's a little overhyped but he's progressed every year and you have to look pretty hard to find any qb his age or younger to be playing as well as he is.

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>>74226514
I've never used reddit outside of the suggestion of google search queries but keep projecting
all of that greentext will surly prove something

>>74226363
That's my point, you won't have 5 or 6 ELITE pocket passers in 10 years. Offenses will change. Lie back and accept it.

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>>74226533
imagine how terrible the 2014 QB class would look if carr regresses hard

>>74226473
Tabor would be a great pick.

I don't see them trading down. I'm not sure Telesco has ever traded down; I know he's traded up, but I'm unsure about down.

>>74225061
>CIN: Bengals take flier on CB Bene Benwikere

Can any Dolphins fan give me the basic rundown on him?

>>74226546
he played like 4 games, and didn't stand out much

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>>74225179
F

>>74226546
ask a Panthers fan more than a Dolphins fan.
and as a Panthers fan I'd say he's mediocre

>>74225179
BOOOOOOOO. I feel sorry the kid had to be a fan of cheaters. BOOOOOOOO

>>74226538
hmm it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

I disagree but you make your arguments well.

>>74226539
Jimmy G and AJ mccarron are still unknowns in my book. although I don't think mccaron has that much upside.

>>74226473
Hooker may fall a bit, he just had surgery that puts him out 6-8 weeks at least. In other news, the Bucks signed the top two DB prospects out of HS on signing day.

>>74226659
You've always been a reasonable person, glad to see that hasn't been compromised.

>>74226544
if the chargers hit on their first round pick 3 drafts in a row and can stay relatively healthy, they could be a dark horse playoff contender. gotta make that rivers HoF case after all
>>74226659
now that you mention it, why does mccarron's name never come up in trade discussions? he's had just about as much NFL experience as jimmy G. is it the belichick halo?
>>74226665
that's true, but i think a team in the top 10 will fall in love with his massive potential. his injury won't keep him from starting week 1 anyway.

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>>74225818
>tfw even when I had a gf on valentines day something bad always happened

0-29 boys. I sure love being cursed.

>>74226683
Mccarron is very old for his draft class, I think he'll be like 27 next season and he's behind andy dalton, not the greatest qb of all time so if the bengals really thought that well of him I think they'd keep him. Limited arm talent.

>>74226659
Agreed about Jimmy G and AJ McCarron. Not a lot of work to validate them or discredit them. McCarton seemed to be a favorite of Hue and I know the rumor coming from the Browns camp was that AJ may end up in Cleveland after Hue was pinned the HC. Never came to fruition. Same with Jimmy G, except Cleveland doesnt seem to be keen on giving up any high round picks.

Not sure who has the better chance.

>>74225959
Ape hoop and poverty ball for me. Plus they're subsequent video games. NBA 2k and Fifa. Also lots and lots of madden 17 career mode. I will usurp tom Brady's legacy score if it kills me.

>>74225179
That's pretty sad. Thanks for fucking up my good mood you cuck.

>>74226683
>if the chargers hit on their first round pick 3 drafts in a row and can stay relatively healthy

Y'know, I was wary about the health coming into this next season, but they hired a new strength & conditioning coach. So, I'm HOPING the injuries won't be as severe.

>>74226683
He'll definitely be a starter. Here is another scenario: if Cleveland is absolutely in love with Hooker as a talent or Jamal Adams and they aren't gone by the top 8, does Cleveland trade up? If so, what do they give up?

>tfw Beligoat trades Jimmy for Watt and he turns out to be a bust

>>74225179
;_;

Happy Valentine's day /sp/!

>>74226728
But Watt is already a bust

>>74226700
that's true, i don't think i realized exactly how old he was. he was in college all 4 years after all. must suck that dalton is only 2-3 years older than him.
>>74226722
you mean would they trade up with the bengals or bills? i'd assume that kind of swap would involve switching firsts (in this case #12) and probably a mid-round pick, 3rd or 4th. seems a little anti-moneyball though, and i think it's decently likely that a top 2 corner will fall to them at #12. maybe they even entertain the idea of trubisky if a jimmy for 2nd round pick trade doesn't get done.

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How many jerseys do you own from your favorite team?

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>>74225061
I hope no team is actually going to fall for the backup Pats qb meme.

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>tfw draftfu is white enough for Brady to like
>already got a ring

>>74226770
Bought with my own money: Carr, Mack
Gifts: Nnamdi, Kirk Morrison, Wooodson, 49ers Rice

>>74226774
2nd round pick this time

Even still, I'd rather the niners draft Trubisky.

>>74226770
zero

>>74226770
>Mills
F
;_;

>>74226770
Currently 6.
Brady, Gronk, Edelman, Welker, Wilfork, and Troy Brown

>>74226789
i just don't know if the second overall pick is worth for someone with as little experience as trubisky. jimmy has actual NFL experience and he would cost less

49ers could also look into patrick mahomes if he falls into the second round

>>74226787
>Raiders fan
>49ers jersey
Explain

>>74226722
Not really anti-moneyball persay. Still grabbing a top young talent when the pick is right. For example, the Indians took a shot on a former #1 overall draft pick from the previous year who got injured and the contract offer was pulled (thus making him eligible for the draft next season). He underwent tommy John surgery. He was projected to be an 80 (ELITE tier prospect with top ceiling and high measurables), 19 years old, a future ace. Even with the surgery and recovery still to come, they drafted him 13 overall instead of letting him fall to another team because of the value he has. Sure, they could have drafted someone else, fully healthy, that filled a bigger need down the road, but that's the beauty of building like a baseball team, no position can be overlooked, no just filling in the gaps, if a high prospect is there, regardless of players already in place or other "needs", take the pick. Any chance to make an upgrade can't be overlooked. A fluid roster, nothing set in stone. If that draft pick becomes a top player after a year or so, ditch the other guy for more picks or cap space.

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>>74226757
>A leaf trying to be funny

>>74226830
lol i don't care lol. he's accurate.

>>74226835
I did it to myself?? For fucks sake...

Meant for

>>74226759

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>>74225179
F

Throw touchdowns in the next life buddy

>>74226832
>Dad is raiders fan
>mom was 49ers fan turned raiders fan

>thought it would be funny to "accidentally" buy the wrong team Rice jersey
This was in 2005 too, his very brief stint in Denver

>>74226850
blake bortles had a similar completion percentage his final year in college.
idk a lot of things about trubisky rub me the wrong way, like being unable to beat out marqise williams for two years.
>>74226865
i understand, but i think in terms of overall team building it would be better to get lattimore or someone at #12 and then get someone like budda baker in the second. for a team with as many holes as the browns i don't think giving up the mid round pick is the best idea right now.

>>74226871
Kill yourself

>>74226888
You're a cuck

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>>74226787
OBJ, Justin Tuck, Eli and plaxico Burress

Also have a lidstrom and datsyuk jersey but that's unrelated

>>74226774

Hoyer actually wasn't that bad. The Browns never should've benched him when they were 7-6 with him.

Poor man's Alex Smith

>>74226911

>Not owning Simms, Carson, LT, Banks, or Bavaro

YGSIU

>>74226903
No

>>74226770
Chad Pennington
Mark Sanchez
Brandon Marshall
Tim Tebow i got as a gift

might get a Leonard Williams jersey since he's pretty likable.

>>74226659
I think McCarron has a bit more that you give him credit for. If not for Burfict, him and the Bengals would have beaten the Steelers. But, again, Burfict was Burfict

>>74226889
I'm not saying they shouldn't got for Lattimore or Tabor, just saying they may not be there and the QBs could plummet due to the lack of sheer talent. Of course some team may reach, but I find it hard that 3 of them will on the same position. That's unprecedented. I wouldn't be surprised if the better QB talent comes from the mid rounds in this draft (think Davis Webb from Cal who was great in his GT year at Cal, and did well at TTU until an ankle injury caused him to lose a season and eventually his spot to Mahomes. Kliff Kingsbury is a QB whisperer). I think Fournette will end up in the top 10 for sure (most mocks have him to Carolina). There will be trade ups and downs like every other year.

>>74227019
why does everyone forget jeremy hill coughing up the ball in the redzone? much more pivotal play imo

>>74226889
>being unable to beat out marqise williams for two years

I don't except that argument, at all. It's an amateur league where RBs at the QB position have a lot more success than pocket passers. Of course Williams started.

>>74226940
Should get a jerry collins jersey kek

>>74227019
>>74227019
he played very well in games I saw, but that was the bengals offense with hue jackson, aj green with sanu and marvin and eifert and a decent rb duo and a good offensive line. also that game was low scoring, he made what should have been the game winning throw though I'll admit.

I think Mccaron's ceiling is most likely Alex Smith/Andy Dalton tier of quarterbacks. You can win games with him but he'll be complimentary more so than a legit franchise qb. I don't really know what Jimmy G's ceiling is but Jimmy G was a much better prospect coming out of college and definitely has the better arm.

>>74227054
>except
accept.

Do giants fans own Tyree jerseys?

>>74226927
He got hurt. I liked Hoyer. I figured he was "our guy". The city loved him because he was a local boy, Pettine and Shanahan loved him as a leader, he was respected. Ray Farmer didn't like him. The entire front office wanted to draft a future ELITE. They drafted a drug addict with an ego because Jimmy Haslam and the chief of financial operations wanted to show they had "football knowledge". This pissed PLAY BETTER off and started to set off the chasm between him and the front office, then Kyle Shanahan walked away from it, then the coaching staff was at odds, Farmer started bringing in players that Pettine didn't like and the locker room just became a chaotic atmosphere with guys taking sides or just being selfish and looking ahead to future contracts with other teams. So...that was Hoyer's time in Cleveland

>>74227106
I could see the Naners bringing him in

>>74227126
they better. He could start while Trubisky learns. All though I am impatient and have poor impulse control so I want Trubisky to start right away.

>>74227044
Because Burfict is a more hate-able player

>>74227106
I think i got a lot more appreciation for hoyer after watching Brock Osweiler

>>74227126
I wish Cleveland would bring him back to fill McCown's former role (mentor/backup). He could help Cody Kessler get better as they are similar style QBs and similar attitudes. He could also help any QB the Browns draft (PLEASE DAVIS WEBB). Unfortunately they'll probably sign Matt Schaub instead.

>Jest trade Hackenberg to 49ers for Kaep and a 2nd rounder

Yay or nay?

>>74227044
because Burfict's play was more memorable in terms of shock value

>>74227186
they would have to draft a QB with that pick then. kaep was possibly the worst starting QB in the league last year

>>74227186
The jest would probably sign an unknown, maybe Matt McGloin

>>74227186
I would make that in an instant just for the second rounder desu, I'm trying to be optimistic with Hackenberg but I just don't know.

>>74227182
Hoyer was goddamn furious about the situation created by the FO drafting Manziel. I think he was under the impression that he was going to be the franchise QB and retire there. Then Haslam got antsy and once Hoyer was ready to return from injury, Pettine was forced to play Manziel and that was the beginning of the end.

>>74227186
>implying anyone, even Yod Jerk, would want HACKberg

>>74227186
your owner says nay. he fucking hates Kap.

>>74227224
The rasm wanted him

>>74227249
The rasm want a winning season, look how that worked out

daily reminder that the vikings traded their first round pick for sam fucking bradford

>>74227249
the rams also wanted jared goff over carson wentz

>>74227330
Reminder that the Vikings traded Herschel Walker for a ton of picks and draft zero (0) good players

>>74227330
dat completion percentage tho

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>>74227330

>>74227367
amounted to fuck all

good for him though might as well stat pad while you can before you get cut or god forbid traded to some other dumb as rocks team:(looking at you chicago)

>>74226770
5 Bradys.

>>74225179
>>74225179
>After watching the superbowl, he was asked if he was afraid of dying
>no, he said
>i must already be in heaven, for I have seen the face of God

>all these filtered tripfags

Can you retards stop replying to these faggots?

>>74227486
why dont you just stop hiding things you dont like reddit?

Remember when Vikings fans were shitting on Carr after his first year

>>74227498
You do realize 4chan without anonymity is just reddit right?

>>74227486
But how do I get (You)s?

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Raiders.

>>74227486
what's the difference between a tripfag and a namefag?

t. a fag

>>74225394
Have to admit, I dig the idea of McCaffrey being that 2nd-String Change-of-Pace back who can line up wide, return kicks, and just wreck havoc(a RB version of Cobb, come to think of it).

But I really really REALLY badly want to see Green Bay actually grab a fucking every-down POSITIVE contributor-if-not-star at defense, especially after all the misfires in the past.

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>>74227581
The Las Vegas Raiders of Oakland

>>74227330
Sam Bradford is a good QB and is much better than Bridgewater.

>>74227754
because of the color of his skin.

>>74227763
No because of skill and experience.

>>74227768
o

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>tfw literally playing for fun from this point forward

>>74227919
and to make your case stronger for any future potential GOATS.

>>74227919
Imagine being this good and finally not having anything to prove now that you are the undisputed GOAT.

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>>74226774
>backup Pats QB meme

Did this entire board already forget Matt Schaub?

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>On Tuesday, the Patriots signed fullback Glenn Gronkowski -- Rob Gronkowski's brother -- to a future contract.

Double Gronk formation incoming lads, pepper your angus

How different would history be in the Jets and Giants swapped places?

>>74228038
wasnt he backing up le dog man?

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>>74228043

Gronkowski is a long ass name to print on a jersey, even with the first initial.

They should have Glenn use GRONKOWSKI and Rob use GRONK

>>74228012
he could get on not losing the Super Bowl

>>74226351
right but you're not belichick

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>>74226770
In the order I got them, I'm an offense baby.

90's White Bledsoe
90's Blue Law
Blue Brady
Blue Dillon
White Bruschi
Blue Moss
Blue Welker
Red Brady
White Faulk
Blue Wilfork
White Gronk
White Brady
White Edelman
Blue McCourty
Blue Gronk


I'm probably going to buy a James White jersey for this last SB run, that or another Edelman. 28 is my favorite jersey number and I love running backs, but Edelman is Edelman.

>>74228038
Matt Cassel.

>>74228043
In case you weren't aware he's a practice squad player and was with the team on and off all year, he might be getting moved up if the team moves on from Develin. I hope they don't though because he's elite as fuck run blocking.

Tony Jefferson wants to join Oakland

Are there any teams Bill would be willing to let Gronk go to? It only makes sense to send him to a team so shit that he wouldn't make a difference, and they'd also have to have something he wants.

>>74228244
>selling low

thats retarded

pats would be dumb enough to do it though

>>74228262
The shit teams have the best draft picks. You don't think the Browns would give up all of their draft picks for Gronk?

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>tfw I made this edit during the 3rd quarter
lmao

>>74226770
>ricky williams
lol there hasnt been anyone good enough since then to get the jersey. also its ridiculously dorky for a 28 year old to wear jerseys

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>>74228272
based

>>74228270
No, gronk's trade value isn't that high right now since he has a lot of durability concerns and the browns wouldn't suddenly be contenders with gronk.

>AY YO DEEZ NIGGAS AIN'T NEVA SEEN NUFFIN LIKE THIS CUZ
>but that's Tom Brady tho
>FUCK DAT OLD CRACKA WE BOUT TO PUT UP 40 ON THEY SORRY ASS

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>tfw winning Super Bowl LII over the Raiders

>>74228719
Seahawks won't be making SB until they fix their defense

>>74228723
You mean offensive line.

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The AFC East is not wide open

>>74226770
White Daunte Culpepper, Purple Adrian Peterson (the older variety from the late 2000s tho). I want a new Vikes jersey since AD's probably going to go, who should I get?

>>74226770
Vinatieri
Moss

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>>74228738
No one cares about that garbage division

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>>74228746
blah blah throwing stones in glass houses

>>74225179
F

>>74225179
F

>The Seattle Seahawks have received a warning for not listing Richard Sherman's knee injury on the injury report in the second half of last season, league sources told ESPN.

Nigger team getting off easy? Where have I heard this before?

Which Patriots team was the best?

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>>74228795

The next one

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>>74226770
I had a youth size McNabb jersey when I was a young chap, I probably outgrew it after elementary school or something
Since then nothing, until this season, I went and got a Wentz jersey after the Bradford trade.
Thinking about getting a Dawkins as my next one.

>>74228795
The 2004 one

>>74228795
2017

>>74225967

LOL

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how bow dis

no hate pls

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>>74228953
>Dont have a first round pick

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>>74229007

>>74225179
When I die, I want it to be after watching the Raiders win an owl.

>>74225179

F

Im crying

>>74228953
Every goddamn year I ask this, what website is that?

>>74225179
RIP kid, at least one good thing came from the Pats winning and that was him getting to see them win before he died.

>>74227620
>>74226238
>>74225573
>>74225482
>packers resigning lacy
i will fucking freak out if we do, i will shit a live and squawking chicken, because this running back class is literally retarded deep
we can take 2 rbs back to back in round 5 and 6 and accomplish what fatty lacy can do
i think we should take zach cunningham because he is a damn stud ILB

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>>74225394
>Browns
>Not picking an offensive lineman
>mfw

>>74229206
fanspeak, on the clock

>>74225179
Shit man...

>>74225394
Hey guys bears fag here can anyone fill me in on this Allen kid?

We need a QB but we are also rebuilding on D, is he that good? I don't watch college ball.

>>74225179
>dead patsfag
who cares

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......

>>74229426

he plays defense

Anyone here think Dak and Wentz will become the next Brady and Eli?

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>>74225179
this kid literally requested a 12 be carved into his skull in one of his surgeries

RIP little man

>>74225394

>Denver taking a WR when their OL and their ILB/DL play literally lost them half their games last year

>>74229525
obvious flop

>>74229692
>Witten
>flopping

The amount of disrespect in this post should be banable.

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gotta wear shades because the next year is looking so bright for dem boyz

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Rise and shine /nfl/

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What's more likely: he gets fired or dies while still coaching?

>>74230662
dies while still coaching

>>74230662
honestly I think capers does a pretty good job given the circumstances.

>>74230691
fuck off, McCarthy

>>74230691
>given the circumstances
wht circumstances? being given talents like peppers and Matthews?

>>74230726
is this still 2010?

>Rams RBs coach Skip Peete cited Todd Gurley's pass-protection ability as a skill Gurley must develop for his game to improve.
>Gurley left the field on most passing downs in favor of Benny Cunningham, a switch that telegraphed to the defense that the Rams were likelier to run with Gurley in the game. "This is going to blow your mind. ... I think the most important thing in this league, as far as a running back is concerned, is his ability to pass protect," said Peete, an 18-year RBs coach. "They think it’s easy. They’ve all come into the league comfortable as a runner." Cunningham is a free agent, setting up Gurley for an increased passing-game role and potentially improved rushing efficiency against lighter boxes if he can fine tune his pass blocking.

>>74230834
SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUP

>>74230662
>Packers ever firing Capers
He'll be coaching them for the next 20 years

>>74231036
hes pretty much guaranteed to get mccarthys job when he goes

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>>74225179
he got to see the greatest comeback ever

may he rest in peace

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>>74231294
>mfw McCarthy finally gets the axe
>he's replaced by fucking Capers

>>74228232
he is going to ask for a huge contract and the raiders gm ain't one for giving big contracts unless you wear 54 or 4

what known player do you think is most likely to be radicalized and stage an attack?

how loose is security for players?

>>74228785
>being this mad at the Hawks

pffft haahahahahaahahaha

>>74225061
I hope Marshall was lying when he said the Jets would be the last team he plays for
Hopefully he signs with the eagles for cheap with the eagles and he develops a healthy bond with Wentz and the non cancerous locker room which ultimately improves his mental health and stability while putting up elite numbers

>>74225394
>Zach Cunningham

Elite, good, bad, or bust?

>>74232189
>eagles
>non cancerous locker room

nice laugh m8, i guess you're too young to remember the TO days

marshall wouldnt want to play for your joke franchise

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>>74232443
>wouldnt want to play for your joke franchise
>played for the jets

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>>74232515
>after playing for the burrs

>>74232443
>The locker room is cancerous right now because 1 player was a diva 13 years ago
Do you know how retarded you sound

>>74232515
he played for the broncos, a team thats won a super bowl
he played for the dolphins, a team thats won a super bowl
he played for the bears, a team thats won a super bowl
he played for the jets, a team thats won a super bowll

Eagles have NEVER won a super bowl ever despite being a million years old

The BROWNS have a more recent championship than the eagles

Every team in the eagle's division has 3 at minimum 3 more owls than they do.

They are the MOST cucked franchise in league history bar none.

why do you think reggie white got the hell out of there as fast as he could.

>>74232620
>he played for the jets, a team thats won a super bowl
how does the jets having won a super bowl like 15 years before brandon marshall was born factor into his decision to go there? they have the exact opposite of what i would call "winning culture"

seems like you just have an irrational hateboner though, so i feel bad for you

>>74232640
eagles have not won a playoff game since 2008, how is that a "winning culture"?

>>74232653
neither have the dolphins lmao.

when are you going to admit that you're just being a little faggot?

>>74232653
also you do know that brandon marshall has literally never even played in a playoff game? like ever? what the FUCK would he know about winning culture?

>>74232665
because iggle fans are easy to troll because they get so defensive about their shit team.

wow you went 7-9 two years in a row, why don't you put up the banner already ffs.

>>74232699
>i-i was le trolling
hahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

>>74232716
i got you to respond didnt i

>>74232729
yes, you got me to spend one of my limited replies on 4chan on you, good job.

oh wait, it doesn't cost me anything to call you a retard, retard.

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> Your team never had three football gods

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Bucs progress or regress next season?

They went 9-7 this season after facing both western divisions, the cowboys, and the bears.

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>>74232748
>oh wait, it doesn't cost me anything to call you a retard, retard.
>he doesnt use 4chan pass

>>74232783
didnt follow the bucs this season but good for them
who are they losing vs who is returning?
Any big flaws that can be fixed in FA or the draft?

>>74232783
probably about the same I think. Falcons will have a hell of a hangover, division could be up for grabs.

SOS can be misleading, a lot can change now between looking at the schedule now and when you actually play the team.

Bucs need a few things to address, their running game and complimentary weapons to mike evans but the biggest thing is to see if their defense has really improved or was last year just a fluke.

Jameis is coming along slowly but surely.

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>>74225179
jesus rip

i hate the pats but atleast he got to see that

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reminder meme magic will bring romo to the jets and they will win super bowl 52

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>>74232803
We might be losing Martin if his drug problem is serious. We have Sims and J-Rodgers though. Glennon is probably gonna be a cardinal or Jet. Chris Conte put together some decent games late in the season after blowing coverage for a year and a half, but I still expect him to leave. Grimes is on the last year of his deal.

The biggest flaws are OL, DE, Safety, and WR. We don't really have a WR2 but we have a beastly slot receiver acting like one and we have Cameron Brate who is an above-average TE. We've been expecting McCoy to carry the entire DL for far too long and he can only beat so many double-teams.

The good news is a lot of our issues last year were due to lack of depth. When we were 100% healthy we looked like a competent football team but if a guy went down it would be an almost Achilles heel.

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>>74232853
Hmm bad year for OL in the draft so theyre just gonna have to suck it up like the eagles
Im sure theyll find some scrub to fill Glennons spot. hopefully they get their corners worked out, how was hargreaves?

DEs are a diamond dozen and theres a huge drop off on safeties in the draft. Im sure if they can get another WR for winston to throw to, they could have a decent team. Id put my money on them to take the NFC S if they can fix those holes, if not then Falcons are repeating

>>74232902
the eagles don't need offensive line help outside of depth

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YJvwbOpZweg

Based Edelman does it again

>BREAKING: BRONCOS HAVE TRADED A 2ND ROUND PICK FOR BROWNS LT JOE THOMAS

>>74225394
>7. Reuben Foster, LB, Chargers
But why? Chargers are pretty stacked at ILB, even with the scheme change.
Jatavis Brown- WILL
Denzel Perryman- MIKE
Korey Toomer- SAM

Plus Joshua Perry, who should improve this year. I just don't see the need to use a top ten pick on a weakside linebacker when we have zero decent safeties on the roster

>>74225302
The browns will be the best team with 4 wins

>>74232993
#FakeNews

Lmao, you thought this would work?

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>>74232918
Kelce, Peters, Barber, i guess youre right
Ive just had it in my mind since 2013 >weve needed help

>>74226720
>Melvin Gordon a hit

I love the guy but that was a pretty awful pick. He's a good rb but wasn't worth the trade up or first rounder.

They did knock the Bosa pick out of the park, though.

>>74233030
it wouldn't be remiss to take a guard or a center, especially if we do release kelce for some stupid reason. but it's no longer a position that we NEED to address, especially not early on.

first 3 rounds have to be some order of WR, CB, and RB.

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>>74233080
what if something like this happened
>ignore the last like 3 picks

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>>74230625

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So uhhhh, how about those mocks guys?

>>74233170
robinson is a HUGE reach there, especially since he would be riding the bench next year anyway. wilson is a nice snag in the second and while there's no way mixon goes in the 3rd he is talented enough to. scott is about as good as you can expect in the 4th, but i would prefer another CB there instead of an OLB.
>>74233289
retardedly unrealistic

>>74233302
No shit, bud

>>74233302
would you rather: Corey Davis or John Ross in the first if theyre both available?

>>74233356
davis is a more complete wideout and does have 4.4 speed, though i do really like what ross brings to the table. my pipe dream is that he falls to the second round.

>>74233010
yeah i got you and a bunch of other retards to use google lmao #getfuckednigger

>>74233455
not really
wouldve gotten a twitter notification on my phone had it been true