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Previous >>74150065

Upcoming Fights:

Adrien Broner vs Adrian Granados
Gavin McDonnell vs Rey Vargas
Deontay Wilder vs Gerald Washington
Sam Eggington vs Paulie Malignaggi
David Haye vs Tony Bellew
Keith Thurman vs Danny Garcia
David Lemieux vs Curtis Stevens
Gennady Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs
Jorge Linares vs Anthony Crolla

Saucy fights: http://i.imgur.com/UrYD8Ws.png
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Reminder that this is the current lineal heavyweight champion of the world.
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Who /refusingtomakeweight/ here?
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>>74195621

No chance of him coming back this year. I thought he was actually training as he called out Wilder again
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>>74195771
he's just trying to stay important
his career is over, he won't fight again
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>>74195621
i bet hes gonna blame SJWs for being fat and lazy piece of shit
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>>74195621
I guess he'll come back in like 2019 and get KTFO by whoever's the #1 at the time
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>>74195621
Now AJ is gonna be THE champ
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>>74195664
Is that the GOAT Kendrick Lamar?
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>>74195621
Maybe he's just cultivating mass
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>Adrien Broner
>Victor Ortiz
>Juan Manuel Lopez
>James Kirkland

These guys were all supposed to be the next big thing.
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>>74196138
>>74196400

There's no stopping it lads
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fury is the greatest living athlete on the planet today
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>>74196432
You spelled Kodak Black wrong.
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>>74196644
Sure is lad
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>>74196789

weirdest body frame ive ever seen
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Where will you be when Turbo Brother knocks Klitschko spark out in round 6 in front of 90,000 people at Wembley?
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>>74196789
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>>74196789
He looks like his head shrunk. I seriously think that he's going to be the biggest example of wasted talent in boxing
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>>74196538
Add Spence to that list soon
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Great white hope Fury is done, the heavyweight division is now back to its rightful owners; the black man.

When AJ KO's Wlad it's official
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I think prime Vitali Klitschko would give any HW in history problems.
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>>74197336
Jesus christ it's so obvious he's roiding, how has he not been caught?
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>>74197376
shat ap blad
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Fury will be back. He's burning through the money.
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If I'm not mistake, Tyson and Holyfield were supposed to fight much sooner than they actually did, but Tyson's loss to Douglas threw a wrench in that plan.
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>>74197510
Don't forget tyson going to prison
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>>74197510

They were supposed to fight in 1991
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>>74197376
Pretty sure all of the national anti-doping agencies are crooked
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>>74197376

Athletes have been beating far more intense anti-doping protocols than the ones in boxing for years now. You have to really fuck up to get caught roiding as an elite boxer.
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>>74197393
couldn't he find some uglier rolex watches?
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>>74197614

VADA which the WBC require now are legit. Klitschko and Joshua are supposed to be VADA tested for their fight

http://www.boxingscene.com/wladimir-klitschko-tested-by-vada-anthony-joshua-fight--113190
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>>74197661
I don't know how steroids work - would someone like Joshua use them in the build up to each fight or would he only need them during the bulking phase?
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Can Thurman outbox Garcia?
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>>74197727
He can and will

Garcia's skills aren't great. He's going to get dominated, his only chance is if Thurman gets overconfident and leaves himself open for a massive counter
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>>74197744

Didn't he struggle with Ashley Theopane?
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>>74197755
I've never seen it but I heard that. He lost to Herrera and Peterson for my money too, and looked nothing special against Guerrero and Malignaggi either

Khan and Matthysse were good wins but I really don't think he's anything special. I think Porter would beat him
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>>74197700

Steroids are testosterone compounds. Men produce around 50mg of testosterone naturally a week, testosterone helps build muscle by speeding up recovery times, makes you stronger, faster, gives you more energy. If you use steroids then you will retain some of the muscle gain when you're off but too much muscle is not going to be good for endurance.

I don't know what he has or hasn't done. There are lots of tricks you can do to improve endurance that can go undetected like the scandal with cyclists boosting red blood cell count. All we can say for sure is he hasn't been caught doing anything he shouldn't be doing.
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>>74197744
Kek, Thurman is gonna get sent to school by based Garcia
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Will he ever be the same? He's coming back at 147. I think he may be too small for 147.
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>>74197814
I'm highly suspicious of the 30 lbs of lean muscle he gained on his huge and already muscular frame within a couple of years after he turned pro. I'm just wondering whether he would need to continue taking steroids/HGH/whatever to maintain that muscle, or whether once he's got it he could maintain it through normal/legal means
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>>74198105
I don't fancy his chances in any tough twelve rounders against top opposition - I think his body and his psyche have been damaged in his defeats - but he could potentially score some upset KOs. He's a fun fighter and I'm glad to have him back though. He'd be a great test for Frankie Gomez at some point
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>>74198187

You can retain the majority of muscle mass gained with the help of steroids with nutrition and training and Joshua is clearly a total pro about that. Muscle mass isn't everything though, Frank Bruno circa 1996 was pretty big as well
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>>74197945
Imagine Thurman knocking out Garcia in front of a sold out Barclay's and millions of viewers on live free TV, while Angel Garcia is sobbing trying to fight Thurman
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>>74198471
Bruno would ko AJ stiff desu
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>>74198483
>khan's gonna expose Garcia
>matthysse is gonna school Garcia

Yea nah, Garcia will land his sneaky counter left hook and smash Thurman's glass
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>>74198471
People with weirdly long arms are the scariest physiques desu
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>>74198565

Thurman's gonna outbox Garcia.
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I think Granados is a bad style match-up for Broner.

Broner doesn't like pressure.
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>>74197336
no one cares about race in British boxing, all we care about is beating the americans.
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>>74198927
People tend to dislike gypsies though. Anthony Joshua is seen as more "quintessentially English" than Tyson Fury is
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>He rates Floyd Mayweather

How to spot a casual
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>>74199367
the same people that hate Tyson Fury are also the same people that hate Joshua, it just racist idiots on twitter
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99JcaHluRuo
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>>74200178
Kino
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>>74199452
T. Casual
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OH SHIT

https://twitter.com/mannypacquiao/status/830845509203922944
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>>74200284

>Amir Khan 40%

why
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>gym near me has a golden gloves winner and current #1 boxer in the state in his weightclass
>want to train there because I figure they know what they're doing
>no online presence, not listed in the phone book, coaches don't have facebooks
What the fuck
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>>74200297
A good boxing gym will have no air conditioning and a terrible 2001 era website.

That's a good sign.
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>>74200311
I know it's a good gym, but I have no idea where it is and no way to contact them. It's driving me mad.
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>>74200178
everybody wants to be an analyst nowadays.
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>>74200284
whose winning the vote?
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>>74200482
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>>74200284
Pac ducking Horn confirmed !
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>>74200502
>Crawford at 27% in 3rd

Why ffs?
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>>74200564

Crawford should happen at the end of the year in the US doesn't really make sense for that to be in the UAE. I just don't want Khan ducking Brook and walking into another mega pay day
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Khan doesn't deserve shit. He's a chinny faggot
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>>74200621

With him being muslim and the only one definitely available for that he's the most logical choice unfortunately, not sure what's going on with the Jeff Horn fight but Manny really doesn't seem keen on that
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>>74200621

Khan has always been B-level at best.
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I'll be honest, I'm not all that impressed by Beterbiev.
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>>74200646
nor should he be

>>74200661
VERY overrated by some, but definitely has dynamite in his hands
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>>74200557
>fella
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I'm assuming Pac has realised there's probably people in Jeff Horn's family who don't even know who he is, and would prefer to fight someone who is going to draw some dimes. Especially seeing as he's only got a couple of fights left in him, and his last fight was against a shitter as well.
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>>74201072

He should just retire. There is nothing left for him to do.

Go be a politician and let the young guys take over boxing. He has been in a lot of wars.
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>>74196894
At home watching a live stream of Wladimir Klitschko giving Mr Joshua a boxing lesson.
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>>74201432

Flat ass
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>>74197510
Tyson also ducked Foreman.
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>>74201265
Can he? I heard that he's fucking horrible with his money
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>>74201551
I remember reading somewhere that Foreman wanted this fight badly. At that point he walked around like he was wearing lead diving boots but he still had the power and physical strength that made him swarmer kryptonite in his younger years. He had the chin to survive an early Tyson assault and after that he'd have all the advantages. I really think he would've won that fight if it'd happened.
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>>74201892
Same, there's a video of him on YouTube calling out tyson on a talk show, he said it'd be over in four rounds. I can't see tyson beating him
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>>74201874

He made ~160 million fighting mayweather, and that was like 2 years ago. If he blew that already he's hopeless.
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>>74195552
Maidana is a classic example of money hurting boxing
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>>74198105
no heart
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>>74202146
He has spent entire purses before actually fighting and earning them before. He will unironically go broke while Mayweather expands on his fortune.

>>74202419
Wut
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>>74198105
His eye will always be fucked.
Brook might have the same problem from now on
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>>74200564
Because people are stupid
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>>74198105
>>74202436

This, he's a natural WW.

He's just got no heart.
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>Jake LaMotta and Ray Robinson fought twice within 21 days
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>>74202146
>160 million

I don't even think Floyd made that much his whole career, you dope

Pretty sure he made a couple mill for each fight. For the first fight he had 2 or 3 plus some ppv.

>>74202722

I dunno about that. But he's the ideal boxing career. Cash out while on top. He earned every bit. If he wants to be fat, he earned that too.

Beat Mayweather at least once, if not 2x, shut Broners face. Guy's a legend.
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>>74202722
maidana could still be an exciting as hell fighter today had he not had 2 massive paydays that allowed him to get fat and retire. money damages boxing
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>>74204325
what did he mean by this
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I hope he fights again. i know he gots what it takes.
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>>74196894
How you Beira cuck for these blacks who hate you astounds me. Babe don't want to be your friend moron
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>>74197510
Tysons rape conviction through off the first Tyson holyfield fight
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>>74201551
That woulda been a terrible fight for Tyson. Mike always had problems with big guys and Forman was always big with a great jab to set up devastating punches as mike moved in
He's all wrong for us baby
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>>74202146
He did bro. He's broke and he employs so many Filipinos it's insane he's broke and needs the money to support his insane lifestyle he already borrowed a few million from bob arum I know people in his camp he's broke as shit it's sad
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>>74204612
Dude he's a b level fighter at best put on a smart suit grab a mike and commentate he had successful career and even won a belt but he's not close to being a goat
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>>74200789
Beterbiev went toe to toe with a 25 year old Oleksandr Usyk in the Amateurs. They weren't pitty pat boxing either they weren't going hard. Usyk is a BIG cruiser to put that in perspective.

Beterbiev is the strongest LHW we've seen possibly in all of boxing history and like Kovalev, his boxing ability is going to go completely underrated for the entirety of his career.
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>>74204667
>I know people in his camp he's broke as shit it's sad

opinion discarded.

The only way Manny could possibly be broke is if he self funded his political campaign. Which isn't the case.
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>>74204703
he was in 100's of millions of debt going int the Floyd fight
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>>74204769
Yeah, 100's of millions in debt but he didn't bother selling his mansion in Cali.

I believe you.
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Is Don King dead yet?
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>>74204375
can any argentinian explain what race maidana is?
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>>74204873
Only in Japan!
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>>74200284
>khan with double the votes of Crawford

This fucking shit is why boxing is such a mess
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>>74204703
I dont think he is in debt, but the guy spend the vast majority of his money. Also I think many companies avoid associate his name with him since he said gays should be killed
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>>74204834
People who grew up poor are notoriously shit at managing their money, especially someone like Pac with so many hangers on. It isn't hard for me to believe at all.
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>>74199456
I hate fury and I don't have anything against joshua

>>74200621
>>74200648
I think you guys forgot how good he looked against canelo until that KO
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>>74205275
>I think you guys forgot how good he looked against canelo until that KO

Stupid argument but you've hit on why he keeps getting good fights. Opponents like him because he'll make things interesting, not be a complete pushover and be a lot of fun to watch to keep the punters happy, including his inevitable sparking out at the end.
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H A P P E N I NG

Full marks to /box/ for calling this one rather than agreeing with the tryhards trying to prove how smart they are by saying it would be Murata
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>>74205318
hoooolllllyyyyyyy shit!
>undisputed
hes finally gonna do it!
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>>74205318
Does feel like a bit of a cash out from Saunders, no way he should be going straight to this after that last performance. Probably getting very well paid to do it though.
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>>74205318
GGG gonna turn another quality Brit into a good boy
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>>74205318
Definitely at Expo then, the Brit with "inside knowledge" called it from day 1. Astana is a pretty great timezone too, will probably mean it's on over dinner here and on at normalish times there. Works for everyone.
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>>74205318
>almost loses to a nobody in his last fight
>panics and pays step aside money so he can cash out his belt then go be a fat pikey for the rest of his life

Pathetic. It'll be a murder.
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>>74205318
it won't happen
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>>74205354
kek, is there a glitch in your matrix afghanbro you seem to be posting the same thing again and again.

This one absolutely will happen for this reason >>74205340
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stop acting like the fights been confirmed
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>>74205394
Obviously it hasn't 100%, but it matches up pretty well with everything that both Saunders and Warren have been saying about the situation lately. I'd say it's far more likely than not at this point.
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>>74205367
the WBO belt is all saunders has, I don't think that he will take the risk
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>>74205436
The real risk is not cashing out against GGG and losing it against Khurtsidze instead to little fanfare, for no money and become entirely irrelevant. If he performs the way he did in his last fight that would certainly be the way it goes too.
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The only person anyone must defeat is themselves
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>>74205452
>cashing out
>against golovkin

pick but one
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If someone has sensitive skin can they still become a fighter or will that give them problems?
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>>74205502
they'll cut cut to shit. see hatton, ricky.
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>>74205494
The fight is in Astana because they have a huge international event there to display Kazakhstan to the world. So culturally it's worth a huge amount to Kazakhstan's dictatorship to get the undisputed status on their own soil, they'll be willing to pay whatever it takes. Not to mention how much it's worth to Golovkin's promoter to deny Canelo the chance to get one of the middleweight belts. That fight will eventually be worth so much that paying a bit extra here will seem like small fry for what they can make then.
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>In the footage Benn said: 'I think he is a pussy who needs money and feels he needs to call me out.

>'It's a shame, he's a grown man. Stop picking on young kids man, your parents not teach you any manners. I'm a little kid and you need me for money.'

>Later in the footage he said: 'I'm just a boy and I feel this needs to be addressed.

>'I think the British Board of Control should not give happy feet his license because his feet look like that m****r f****r, there.'

>Benn then holds up his phone to the camera with a picture of a child with club foot and laughing.

>He adds: 'I feel sorry for happy feet, he wasn't loved he wasn't loved when he was young. He was different. If you want I can raise a happy feet charity.'
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>>74205510
alright sorry didnt know, what you up to anyway?
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>>74205517
I'm a teacher so I'm not in this week, mostly planning things for the next few weeks and trying to catch up with marking. Bit more of a relaxed pace than normal though which is nice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdQWSR1Fu8g&t=9s
what a flying faggot
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>>74201892
>>74204658
Foreman ended up getting the Holyfield fight instead.
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>>74202127
Was that on Letterman when he was recapping how Gerry Cooney was the hardest puncher he faced despite putting him in a coma until Christmas?
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>>74205464
The only boxers I can think of who did that were Gatti and Liston. Are they the GOAT?
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>>74204612

He's fighting on the Golovkin undercard
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>>74202875
Yeah, I have a feeling that Brook will outbox Spence at first but eventually the pressure will get to him and his eye will go, causing him to get stopped late. Quitting gets much easier after the first time, and make no mistake he and his team quit against Golovkin
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>>74205506
Or Gabe Rosado, tap him and he starts pouring blood
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Santa Cruz's dad talking him out of going to Belfast for the Frampton rubber match. Does he think the judges will submit three 120-108 scorecards before the fight starts
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>>74205318
you know realize BJS intentionally looked like trash to lull GGG into the fight and will box him to a 9-3 win.

Those pikeys really are crafty just like the movie
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Prime Vitali Klitschko vs. Prime Mike Tyson.
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>>74200284
>https://twitter.com/mannypacquiao/status/830845509203922944

hahahaha why the fuck would he ask that when he's fighting the guy who'll obviously come last?
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which one of you guys did that, lol
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>>74205513
he's 20 years old he will mature in time.
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>>74205513

What a dick. From every interview I see with his father now I'm surprised he raised him that way
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>>74207922
>Abos
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>>74207989
subscriptions
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>>74207922
how you doing afghan bro
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>>74208130
watching porn 24/7, playing football and sometimes a bit fifa or battlefield

what are you doing all day?
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>>74204627

The original fight was supposed to happen in 1990 but didn't happen when Tyson lost to Buster Douglas. Douglas lost to Holyfield and they then had a fight scheduled for November 8th 1991 which Tyson pulled out of with a rib injury. Tyson was convicted in February 1992
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>>74208240
listening to some good tunes and doing some work for college. How is Germany treating you
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>>74208804
nice, glad that I finished my exams
way too good, I don't deserve anything, I'm just going to college because I don't wanna work lol
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I don't get bothered when a mismatch happens and a fighter gets brutally knocked out. Fighters know the risks when they get in the ring. Nobody forced that fighter to get in the ring.
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>>74208316
Holyfield wins every time
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>>74209007
kek I remember that thread but It wasnt me who post it, But I thought the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVzvRsl4rEM the joshua intro was good tho.
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>>74209236

Holyfield didn't fear Tyson.
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BJS will unironically beat GGG
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>>74209581

Hows life in Liverpool you like cunt?
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>>74209650

*pikey
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>>74209581
Slick bruvva Jacobs is going to expose that robotic Euro first
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>leave home at 6AM
>get back at 6PM
>spend 2 hours preparing meals
>another hour working out
>no fucking free time whatsoever

H-h-hard work, d-dedication
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>>74209270
You might say....

He's the Real Deal
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>>74209268

someone saying "Hotel derek chisora" instead of "Hotel california"

Top laffs.
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>>74210044

>He doesn't say "lets go champ" when he's on the treadmill by himself
>he doesn't say "hard work is easy work" when is writing his University papers

fucking casuals.
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26 - 0 (26 K.O) at being alone on valentines days bros
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>>74210194

Should have signed with Al Haymon you Uber driving bum.
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>>74210044

Let's go champ
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>>74210307
>not signing with About Billions Promotions or Hennesey Promotions

Restart your career son.
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>>74209581
it will be a close points win for Genardy but if the fight was in England I would favour Saunders
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>>74210567
bjs would get tko'd
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>>74210132
This is the closest I have ever been in pub, chatting with some lads about box. Keep it comfy guys
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IMPORTANT

Who's it going to be lads?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12334360
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>check Beterbiev fights on youtube
>comments full of salty black Americans
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>>74211717
Beterbiev isn't even white he's some goatfucker who lives in the mountains.
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>>74211733

in america he is white
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USADA BTFO

http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada

Long-ish but a fantastic read.
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>>74211717
>mfw all the Mexican salt in Chocolatito videos
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>>74211733
Sorry but Chechens are proud Europeans
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>>74211769
I swear if this cunt had black hair he'd look exactly like my dad (forgot his name)
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>>74211784

Ungrateful, can't even remember your own dads name
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>>74211381

This fight is confirmed now May 20th in the UK. Really good 50/50 fight, I could plausibly see either of them getting the decision or either being knocked out. Boxing calendar is stacked for the first half of this year.
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>>74211981
what did Brook weigh in when he fought Golovkin?
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>>74207728
Vitali by knockout.
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>>74204949
>Chino

Hmm, I wonder...
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>>74211381
How the fuck is Brook gonna get down to 147?

He looks like he weighs 200 last week.
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>implying Spence could handle the lines at the Ingle gym
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>>74212688
Bowe sparks either of the bitchkos
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>>74213577
Riddick lost to holyfield who lost to Lennox who in everyone's eyes and the judges was getting beat by a Vitali who only had one good eye.
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Should i put money on Granados . Broner has a known problem with high volume pressure fighters but Granados is not maidana..... Really thinking about this boys.
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>>74213619
Holyfield wasn't Holyfield when he fought Lewis
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>>74213653
im planning on it gunna watch both lads last two fights the night before see what that does to my opinion
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>>74213679
Its a great pay off broner is a -350 favorite meaning my 200 dollar bet against him can net me 500 bucks. This is either a goldmine or im hyping up Granados skill set.
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>>74213731
the Imam win and the sudden change of weight limit is what has me sitting on the edge
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>>74213739
You think the weight will be a pro or con for granados?
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>>74213754
granados but only if hes able to smother Broner. Granados should do everything in and out of the book to keep this at close quarters even though he usually fights at mid-range
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>>74211381
spence becomes a star that night
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>>74209270
LOL THE FEAR MEME.
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>>74214315

Jesus..
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>>74210150
hahahaha, all work is easy work, all work is easy work
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>>74214315
He turned away before the punch hit him, he looks scared to me
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>>74214315
>>74214595
is that classic tyson move to the left + left hook to the body something you should do in the street fight? lol
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Is Billy Joe Saunders the greatest philosopher of our age?
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>>74214653
>#BrassHouse

fucking pmsl
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>>74211981
Oh date's confirmed? Pretty made up if it's then since I'm abroad for 3 months from the beginning of June and would quite like to go. Will be my first matchroom show in a while.
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>>74207922
Don't see Bronerweight
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So if Brook gets beat by Spence, will it once and for all kill the chances of Brook-Khan ever happening?

Khan could easily pull the "lol you got beat, don't have a world title anymore, your a scrub, I'm not fighting you" card.

Or will he think that Brook getting beaten means he's vulnerable?
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>>74214848
Khan is ultimately just whoring himself around for the most money possible, I honestly don't think he cares about winning anymore. The only reason he's not jumping at the Brook fight now, is that it will likely still be available a year from now, whereas potential fights with Garcia and Pacquiao probably won't be.
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>>74214653
Lel
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>>74212156
I might remember wrong, but I think he was 174 on fight night, and Golovkin like 171?
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>>74212156
>>74215113

Brook was 168 lbs on the IBF on the day weigh in

http://www.boxingscene.com/gennady-golovkin-1678-kell-brook-168-ibfs-fight-day-weighin--108606
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>>74214848

Brook getting beaten by Spence means Brook's stock falls as he's not such a big seller to casuals if he's lost again and doesn't have the IBF title. That means Khan has a better case for 70/30 split. It would also give him the chance to look at how Brook copes with a dangerous young fighter who can punch and evaluate his own chances as he doesn't really want to lose him
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Competing hard with Mayweather vs McGregor for dumbest rumour of the year.
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Is boxe better than kickboxing? Kickboxng gym is closer to me but it seems like a boxe bad clone
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>>74215731

better for what?
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>>74215440
But if Khan fights Pac and loses(maybe even by ko) then they're pretty much on the same page.
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>>74216018
Hope khan wins he's the one of the few fighters that can beat mayweather. If he faces and beats Pac man floyd might want him next and that could be his undoing.
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>>74216265
>[Khan]'s one of the few fighters that can beat Mayweather
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>>74216265
Lol, Mayweather can spend another year off, comeback and school the fuck out of Kahn. Probably the only person I give the best chance against Mayweather is Garcia. Not saying he beats him though
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>>74216487
>Name one boxer whos outboxed khan.....
>No one not even Canelo who is two divisions above amir could outbox him. Only way to beat him is to knock him out.

Now last time floyd knocked someone out was 6 years ago with a sucker punch against ortiz. Amir is much too quick for a 40 year old floyd and "broken hands" mayweather doesn't have the power anymore to hurt khan.
> Khan by one sided UD
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>>74213674
yet he still beat lewis in the second fight
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>>74216737
>School khan
No one has schooled Khan ever, he's a prodigy, albeit a prodigy with a glass jaw. Like I said only way to beat him is to knock him out. It took a 180 pound Canelo 6 rounds to do that against a career light welterweight. No way floyd can hurt him and its absurd to think floyd can school a guy that makes Zab Judah looks slow.
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>2017
>people still falling for the khan meme
ayy that glass chin faggot hasn't been a top fighter for a decade
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>>74216744

You can not be serious Ahmed, get out of your autism chamber. Khan struggled against Algieri, got beat by Lamont Peterson and Zab Judah was never top level. Floyd operated on another level to Khan and is an old man now. Pacquiao will beat him just like every top fighter has.
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>>74216808
Because he fights power punchers with a chin the strength of peanut brittle. In terms of boxing skill though he's clearly a prodigy you cant train to outbox like that. Unless floyd magically turns into a knockout artist with more sheer power than Danny GarcĂ­a or maidana he's getting outboxed by a much quicker and younger khan.
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>>74216827
>Lamont not getting the hometown decision
>lamont not juiced up
Like i said only way to beat khan is to hurt his chin, a much bigger juiced up lamont could barely pull it off but somehow a small floyd who hasn't knocked out someone that wasn't sucker punched since 2009 can magically turn into a KO artist?
>algerie
Ok? And floyd struggled with a 40 year old De la hoya, every one has their bad days.
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>>74216744
Floyd would time Khan easily and would ko him after tons of counters
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>>74216956
> 40 y.o.Floyd knocking out anyone
Khan Isn't a flat footed Canelo and I doubt he can constantly counter someone that has probably the fastest hands in boxing right now. Even Lennox agrees with me.
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>>74216891

The best name on Khan's resume is Maidana, that's the one legit win he has. Mayweather was one of the greatest counter punchers of all time, in his prime he would eat Khan alive and even now it would be a comfortable decision by 3 or 4 points.
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Khan should fight Broner, that would be a fight involving a name he could win
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>>74217011
>By beating past their prime fighters like manny and DLH
>OR fighting guys that are easy to counter like Canelo.
Floyd doesn't fight other floyds, in other words he chooses aggressive fighters that are easy to counter and he can box comfortably. He doesn't fight out boxers who are quicker or are defensively orientated. Khan would overwhelm floyd easy and box him to a easy UD. Floyd's hands are notorious for breaking even his best counters at this stage of his career would just annoy khan.
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>>74217120
This guy
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>>74217120
Khan would get chinned in the 6th lad
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>>74217120

I'm not a flomo but this is such laughable bait. Come on man. Floyd would destroy Khan. Wouldn't even be close. Khan's "speed" is so predictable even Canelo timed him in the first few rounds.

>a guy that got the crap kicked out of him by Cheaterson is gonna beat Mayweather

WEW lad
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>>74217254
>Floyd knocking out anyone
>>74217301
>Thinking floyd with bad hands and no knockouts since 2011 can have the power in his counter to do what Canelo did
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>>74217551
This guy
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>>74217560
Never thought about it that way tell I heard Lennox Lewis explain it.
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anthony joshua
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>>74217615
This guy.
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>>74217062
Yeah that would be a good fight for him (if Broner makes it past Granados)

Pacquiao in the UAE must be top of his wish list though
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Is this the best beginning to a boxing year ever?
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>>74217938
Probably, just hope that the second half of the year is just as good. If we at least get Golovkin/Canelo I'm happy
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>>74217938
Shit loma is fighting in DC something I thought would never happen. Can't wait to go this year has already started out great.
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Don't know why garcia vs thurman is the same day as ufc 209 but this might be our chance to take the spotlight. Who you think gets more views a ufc ppv or boxing on CBS?
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>>74217938

You would have to go back some years for a 6 month period with match making as strong as this:

James DeGale vs Badou Jack
Jose Pedraza vs Gervonta Davis
Carl Frampton vs Leo Santa Cruz
Mikey Garcia vs Dejan Zlaticanin
Francisco Vargas vs Miguel Berchelt
Keith Thurman vs Danny Garcia
Gennady Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs
David Lemieux vs Curtis Stevens
Jorge Linares vs Anthony Crolla
Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko
Joseph Parker vs Hughie Fury
Liam Smith vs Liam Williams
Jason Sosa vs Vasyl Lomachenko
Canelo Alvarez vs Julio Chavez Jr
Kell Brook vs Errol Spence Jr

Lot of really good fights in there. You had some MMA people on here last year seriously believing boxing was dead but UFC have just put on a terrible PPV and their schedule isn't as good as this.
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>>74218353
CBS
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>>74218373

CBS is free, PBC has done 3.5 to 4 million viewers many times so it will definitely get more viewers than a PPV event
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>>74218368
I seem to recall 2013 being epic but I can't remember why exactly
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Just rewatched Joshua-Breazeale and I'm starting to think Wlad can beat him. I don't think Joshua will have a good time against a guy who beats him to the jab and is constantly moving away from his big right hand
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>>74218528

It will be a close fight but I'm not backing against Joshua. Wlad is going to be 41 years old, it would be Foreman esque winning the world title again. Joshua needs to put him on the ropes, stop him from clinching and try to blast through early
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>>74218528

I think AJ carried the useless Brazeale to prove he could "box". It was basically a heavy bag workout.
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>>74218487

2013 in the first 6 months had:

Orlando Salido vs Mikey Garcia
Gennady Golovkin vs Gabriel Rosado
David Price vs Tony Thompson
Adrien Broner vs Gavin Rees
Timothy Bradley vs Ruslan Provodnikov
Terence Crawford vs. Breidis Prescott
Nonito Donaire vs. Guillermo Rigondeaux
Wladimir Klitschko vs Francesco Pianeta
Tyson Fury vs Steve Cunningham
Sergio Martinez vs. Martin Murray
Canelo Alvarez vs Austin Trout
Danny Garcia vs Zab Judah
Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler II
Chad Dawson vs. Adonis Stevenson
Floyd Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero
Adrien Broner vs Paulie Malignaggi
Mikey Garcia vs. Juan Manuel Lopez
Gennady Golovkin vs. Matthew Macklin

Some decent fights but not as good as the start to this year. There are other fights that can still be made as well like Luis Ortiz vs Jarrell Miller, Dillian Whyte vs Derek Chisora II, Manny Pacquiao vs Amir Khan, Gennady Golovkin vs Billy Joe Saunders.
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>>74218743
Maybe, but I thought I spotted some chinks in his armour regardless. Namely, he fights in straight lines, he doesn't keep his head moving, he's wasteful in attack and he has a one-dimensional jab. On the other hand, he set a good pace and didn't slow down
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If Lomachenko beats Sosa and Corrales, is he a top 10 ATG at 130?
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>>74219030

The 2 key differences between 2013 and 2017 is that HBO has cut budget and is producing much less but the UK scene in that time has got much stronger and now Matchroom's output more than makes up for it.
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>>74217004
Lennox also thinks AJ is a great boxer
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>>74219231
130 has a pretty strong history so I doubt it

He would have to fully unify it
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>>74219591

>tfw stopped by a crayon eater
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>>74219822
you guys are ugly up there
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>>74220221
All the fittest boxers are British desu
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>>74220279
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>>74220321
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>>74220367

Was waiting for Afghan German to post that
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>>74220367
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>>74220399
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>>74220399

<3
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>>74220457
With Hearn promoting him, Calzaghe managing him and Booth training him, he is bound to become massively hyped in the next few years
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>>74220279
>>74220367
I LOVE Buglioni, he's so attractive but nothing tops Blackwell, even the way he talks, just too much

>>74220398
loool
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>>74211717
its crazy. its a real phenomenon broken down my race.

blacks: hate GGG, call him overrated, defend PBC and any black fighter no matter how boring he may be
non-blacks: love GGG, hate PBC
mexicans: love mexicans, hate non-mexicans
eastern euros: say nothing, break opponent face
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>>74214630

No.
If you can turn a bum like that you might as well go for the left hook to the jaw.
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>>74215731

The boxing gyms in Italy are probably at a higher level than the kickboxing gyms. Not to mention that the kickboxing gyms will probably full of gypsies and other such foreigners.
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>>74220531

What about Boy Jones Jr?
He's a cute. No homo though.
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>>74221205
aaah I remember that dude from an ifl interview, has the height of a light hw but is a super featherweight lol
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Thurman or Garcia?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12339857

Other Polls:

AJ vs Klitschko
http://www.strawpoll.me/12234052

Parker vs Hughie Fury
http://www.strawpoll.me/12261334

Brook vs Spence
http://www.strawpoll.me/12334360
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>>74222522
>Thurman by decision
>Klitschko by decision
>Parker by KO/TKO
>Brook by decision

Literally free money.
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>>74222890
Same except I have Parker by decision, and I think it'll be split or at least very close
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>>74222890

Don't think Parker will be able to KO Hughie, he's a big man who fights at range a lot of the time
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>>74195552
>Keith Thurman vs Danny Garcia
Only fight amongst that bunch that is really mouthwatering.

> David Haye vs Tony Bellew
interesting as a meme

> Gennady Golovkin vs Daniel Jacobs
Won't be a great fight as GGG will break his temple in the 2nd RD.
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>>74222939
>>74222969
Probably not, but Hughie looked more shit against Kassi than Parker did against Ruiz Jr.

I'm expecting all decisions, but I'd be excited to see one of them end in KO or TKO.
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>>74222522
>klitschko by decision winning
LITERALLY CANNOT wait until he gets sparked out in the 4th round. can imagine the haters squealing

>h-h-he was past his best
>w-wait till h-he fight s a real fighter like pulev
>o-ortiz would kill him la
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>>74223015

Eggington vs Malignaggi is a good pairing, David Lemieux vs Curtis Stevens is a good pairing, Linares should win but it will be a good fight. Whilst February is a quiet month the first 6 months of the year will have been jam packed.
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The call that saved Andre Ward.
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>>74223092

Right with you lad #teamhumble
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>>74223222
>223222
so close
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CONOR IS GOING TO SLEEP FLOYD

HAHAHAHAHHAH BOXING PUSSIES
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>>74224212

Floyd is 40 years old. An old man. And McGregor still won't get close to him
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>"I would get Joshua out of there. I’m confident in every fight that I fight. Everybody knows that I’m the monster in the division to reckon with. They know that when I speak, they’re going to respect me because I don’t play around at all. I may make funny comments, I may do silly things being that it’s my personality, but when it’s time to fight, it’s all jokes aside with me, there’s no playing around."
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>>74216773
>Like I said only way to beat him is to knock him out. It took a 180 pound Canelo 6 rounds to do that against a career light welterweight

Canelo spent 6 rounds working Khan's body though. It got to the point where those punches were clearly having such an effect, so that when Canelo feinted at him, Khan took the bait and got heem'd.

It's not like Canelo spent the entire fight aimlessly swinging at Khan's dome until something connected

You are obviously trolling, and it has worked desu
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a handy diagram
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>>74225247
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>>74223092
>h-h-he was past his best
he is passed his best
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UFC said they would give each fighter $25m in Mayweather v McGregor

Bit rude to the rest of the business when one fight with a guy who isn't even part of their sport will have more money than every other ufc fight combined
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>>74216265

I unironically agree with this.

His style is/was poison for Mayweather.
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>>74225379

I know Trump's hair has become his trade mark so he can't cut it, but jesus christ its always looked horrendous.
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>>74223092
He's like 41 when they fight and hasn't boxed in 2 years.

This is Holmes-Ali tier
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>>74223391
I'm fearing that cuck.
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>>74205318
>Murata
Made no sense at all for Saunders to travel to Japan as the belt holder to fight Murata
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>>74206687
>he and his team quit against Golovkin
Not much Brook could do about his corner throwing the towel in.
He was never going to win that fight. He was just going to take more damage.
You say "quit" like he's Victor Ortiz
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>>74223092
I know you're memeing but the only group of fans worse than casual brit fans are Pacquiao fans
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>>74222890

Thurman by decision or ko,
Parker's a bum, so I'll go with Fury whom I've never seen
Spence by KO
Can't pick between Wlad and AJ. On the one hand AJ is green af and has fought nobody, on the other hand Wlad is such a bitch plus he's old now. I guess I'm leaning towards AJ somehow. Maybe points, but a KO wouldn't surprise me. Wlad has no heart and has a pussy chin.
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>>74220563
>Mexicans dislike non mexicans
Most of Golovkins fanbase is mexican and eastern Euros have lots of mexican fans.
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>>74228374
>most
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>>74228587
Yeah those aren't kazachs selling out his fights in inglewood.
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>>74229077
And he doesn't come out to Mexican music because he enjoys it
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>>74228374
Latinos in general love golovkin. They tend to love fighter who hit hard and can take a hit
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>>74220563
you're thinking of mma. the white mans safe space sport
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>>74218393
PBC fucked up by spreading themselves too thin on too many networks.
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>>74218368
Epic year so far. We've had 3-4 FOTY contenders already.
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Who else here /runningat530amET/?
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>>74229614
I think Haymon wants to start a bidding war between the networks, cable sports contracts are extremely lucrative. Really nothing about PBC has been sustainable from the get-go.
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>>74229682
They would have been in a better position to get a network deal if they were on fewer channels. They could have had fewer but better cards which would have generated more consistent ratings. someone would have given them a deal if they were getting 2.5-3m consistently on network tv.
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>>74229742
Could be. But they're burning money paying for airtime, throwing everything into a smaller number of stacked cards on just a couple networks could have imploded if ratings were poor right off the bat. Haymon had a pretty big war chest to start with and I'm sure he wanted to make sure he could use it all up.

Course the other theory is that Haymon just wants everybody under contract so he can go back to holding HBO and Showtime hostage for PPV bucks after he finishes cashing in on his huge PBC managerial cuts. We'll see.
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>>74229742
This.

Not sure if this is still the case, but Haymon has been coming out of his (investors') pockets to buy time slots. I don't know why they have matches on Spike TV of NBC1000 or whatever the fuck.
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>>74216773
Danny swift Garcia beat the dog shit out of that paki goat fucker
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>>74229832
to be fair, Khan was having his way until he got caught.
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>>74229890
How's life in Australia breh?

Khan is a decent outboxer. But I think that dude was baiting everyone and we all fell for it.
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I haven't masterbated in 3 days. On Friday I spar. Should I keep not jacking off until then or blow one loud before hand tonight or something?
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>>74229943
keep it after the sparring, you are gonna blow that guy with you sexual frustation
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>>74227898
casual brit fans are cool because they spend lots of money on ppv's and are too cool to spend time being autistic on the internet
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>>74229826
I was thinking they would want to do a ESPN deal, but I guess DLH took that opportunity away. Maybe they should try to get a deal with FS1 and do smaller monthly fights or something, then Spike for bigger fights, and CBS for the high caliber fights like Thurman/Garcia
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>>74229832
I was born in pakistan, am I a goat fucker now
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>>74229822
Ratings would not have been poor off the bat. boxing fans follow stars nor brands. haymon had a few solid B-C level stars that were built up on HBO that boxing fans were interested in. The same ones that got very high ratings on their network TV PBC fights. Haymon needed to maximize these guys. instead of having major Network time wasted with nobodies like omar figeroa. can't do that when you are on , NBC, CBS, ESPN, SHOWTIME, SPIKE, FOX, FS1, BOUNCE, ETC. ETC. SPREAD WAY TO FUCKING THIN.
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>>74230281
not brands*
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>>74229890
Biggest meme in boxing.

>h-he was winning the fight before he got put on Queer Street! He would have won the other 10 rounds before he was brutally TKO'd!
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>even unironically wearing a stupid hat
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>>74230400
>he was winning the fight before he got put on Queer Street!
he was
>He would have won the other 10 rounds before he was brutally TKO'd!
I didn't say that
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>>74230281
Assuming he was marketing to regular boxing fans and not trying to build brand recognition among casuals. Who knows

>>74230404
>My career is a lot like the sinking of the Titanic
Really kicks the ol' cerebral cortex in gear
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>>74220563
Ward Kovalev fight really highlighted the tribal racism in boxing even in UK we had Hatman celebrating like slavery had been abolished with Wards victory. I miss the Mexican Puerto Rican rivalry that was pure hatred.
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>>74230446
It takes way WAY too long to build brand recognition among casuals. It took the UFC like 10+ years to not be bleeding money. And casuals follow stars even more than regular boxing fans.
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>>74230539
sounds like PBC needs more Face the Pain and Xyience
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>>74230400
Nicolino Locche is the biggest meme in boxing. Literally a bum that fought bums and is only remembered because of a few cool highlight videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj-bLfsQSFQ
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>>74230574
It just needed better management. But it may be too late.
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>>74230539

UFC peaked with the sale of the company, even after a decade of brand building they're typically only doing 350k to 450k PPV buys. The only active star they have who smashes that is Conor McGregor and he's realised it's a joke fighting for a few million when he's an anomaly. Now the most valuable person in MMA realises the real money is in boxing.

For this reason Al Haymon should have focused on star power and building up a few fighters much in the way Eddie Hearn does with Matchroom. Base every show on the story of Deontay Wilder, Errol Spence Jr, Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Adonis Stevenson. I think the best bet for a TV deal now is Fox and FS1.

They should also pick one logo and stick with it, not sure why they have 2 logos.
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>>74230605
lmao I'm suprised that they continued for a full 20 seconds.
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>>74225239
being an Olympic/World champion means significantly more than just being a professional.
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>>74230667
Haymon thought he could build a monopoly and failed. It's good for boxing that the PBC has been a catastrophe.
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>>74230667
>For this reason Al Haymon should have focused on star power and building up a few fighters

Haymon has literally no idea how to build a fighter, his entire business model is taking on quite successful fighters and making them superstars. I don't think he is at all capable of doing what Matchroom does.
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*pukes*
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>>74231023
that is absolutely abhorrent
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>>74230594
so comfy to watch tho
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>>74230847

Why do you think it's good for boxing? PBC are on free tv exposing boxing to a wider audience. There was some talk of PBC expanding to the UK and giving away fights on ITV and Channel 5 a year or so ago. PBC being successful isn't going to be worse than Eddie Hearn having an exclusive contract with a premium tv channel because it seems that what Al Haymon wants is boxing widely accessible and the tv companies to pay for it. Why celebrate 600k PPV viewers when you can get 5 million viewers on free tv?

I think PBC have made a lot of mistakes but it can still be successful. One of the reasons people have it in for PBC is because Al Haymon refuses to any PR work or communicate to the press himself so nobody knows for sure how Al Haymon plans to get the money back. Contrast that with Eddie Hearn who gives minute by minute updates on twitter and IFLTV.
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>>74231023

The WBC Pinata title sponsored by Corona, the most prestigious title in Tijuana
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>>74231112
Ironic since Jr. is at Coronaweight right now.
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>>74231089
Haymon's terrible business practices would essentially kill off what's left of the sport if he was in a position to be able to flatten all competition. He doesn't care at all about the grassroots of the sport, it's all just milking profit from big names he's managed to sign. Fuck him.
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>>74230400
Like when Brook got his eye socket smashed, Golovkin haters were like "Brook would have won if ggg didn't hit so hard!"
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>>74231023
That's just one of the possible designs, I saw another that was actually kinda nice

>imagine Michael buffer saying "AND THE NEW SUPER CANELOWEIGHT CHAMPION"
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>>74231023
love it tbfh
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>>74231138
ironically for such a "genius" he lacks tons of common sense, unless of course this was a scheme to in fact lose all this money and line his pockets with percentages here and there, which seems actually to NOT be the case as he is forgoing his fee with most fighters.

so its just pure incompetence. he literally had a billion dollars of free money and messed it up. how do you even do that?
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>>74231379
looks like something you'd expect to be draped over an african woman.
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>>74231138
Except Haymon's the only one putting on good fights so far this year

He and Broner did a great job for that last Easter Jr card too, the crowd was much better than they usually are in America
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>>74231555
>Except Haymon's the only one putting on good fights so far this year

And who's to say that isn't exactly because things are looking so dire for them. I think everyone ITT would agree this year is unusually good, when Haymon looked at his strongest he was at his most obstructive. You're not even right anyway, Vargas vs Berchelt was the best card so far this year and that had nothing to do with Haymon.
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>>74231555
>>74231689

exactly. the only reason the year is so good is because of haymon, but its ONLY because haymon is super desperate and running out of money.

the new 2015/2016 thing was to say "SEE, HAYMON DOES PUT ON GOOD FIGHTS" when one guy didnt' train seriously because he was overpaid to fight an absolute bum and the bum actually fought decently against a D-level version of the A-side guy
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>>74231860
Just look at the time all these pbc cards were announced in late November/early December. After a full year of random fights with mostly bums, the money's drying out so he had to put together the best vs the best in order to make it seem like he still has control of the situation.
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>>74231689

Vargas vs Berchelt was a good card but not a mainstream draw, it had average viewers of 497,000. That was on HBO that have cut back on boxing and reduced their budget. Showtime has 30% less subscribers than HBO and outdrew it on the same night getting 587,000 average viewers for Frampton vs Santa Cruz.

So if HBO are spending less on boxing we should be glad that PBC are finally starting to do more competitive fights. One of the problems boxing in America has is the median age of the average viewer is too old, too many early 20's men get swept up in the UFC marketing. Putting boxing on free tv or basic cable is one way to expose it more. Thurman vs Garcia is happening on the same night as UFC 209 PPV and it will clear 3 million viewers when UFC gets maybe 450k buys if they're lucky so that has to be a good thing.
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>>74232210
>>74231860

If he gets a TV deal for $250 million and launches a subscription app he will look like a genius.

The boxing landscape has shifted as well. The UK is real competition for staging major fights and that's more pressure to deliver.
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>>74231423

He's not a genius at all. This is the problem, people don't get it. The guy's a conman at best and that's all he's ever been. I guess that's a form of genius, but its parasitic. He is single handedly responsible for tanking hbo boxing, which is barely starting to recover after severing all ties with him and now that he's running out of money and there'll be nobody to pay, we'll see another huge gap in big fights until all these guys get signed by someone else. What you have with Haymon is basically a welfare system but unlike Obama's foodstamp presidency, this one has finite resources.

tl;dr, Haymon is just another conman. Hell say what you want about Don King, but that guy knew how to promote boxing.
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>>74232756
>Hell say what you want about Don King, but that guy knew how to promote boxing.

He stacked his undercards too
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>>74232850
Only thing is that Don King robbed his fighters, Haymon overpays them to fight bums
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>>74232756

The UFC's FOX deal was $140 million last year and they want $400 million next contract. There is a path there to make PBC successful by doing a tv deal. Only time will tell if Al Haymon is a parasite who's looking to make bank off management contracts or if he's sincere about establishing PBC as a brand. PBC is in its third year and now is the time to try and be profitable. HBO have 2 reasons to dislike Haymon, firstly because he protected his fighters and put shit fights on HBO that they didn't want which was a fair criticism and now because he threatens their pay to view boxing business by going on free channels. If PBC fails I don't think there will be a big gap because showtime is doing better while HBO has gone backwards. Showtime is also showing the big international cards (Joshua vs Klitschko).
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>>74231423
Conmon is a moron, literally pissed away hundreds of million
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>>74232678

American Broadcasters must love how UK boxing has exploded.

I never understood why they put big fights between british and american fighters in America.

Big fight happens in America at 11pm domestically and 5am in UK, only one group is watching.

If a big fight happens in the UK, its primetime in America and 11pm in UK. That basically doubles the amount of viewers they can get.
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>>74233337

That would be better for fans but American broadcasters only have to worry about their own ratings and it's better for them to be in a prime time slot. UFC did a PPV in the UK last year with the main event at 5am just so it could be prime time in the US. If it's a genuinely big PPV fight involving a British fighter (like a Ricky Hatton) then we stay awake for it.

For boxing as a whole I think it's good news that a major fight like Joshua vs Klitschko can happen outside the US. American broadcasters can't be so insular.
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>>74233576
Was British boxing always this big? Don't remember it being so popular a couple years ago, seems it blew up out of nowhere. Eddie Hearns is the best promoter out there imo
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>>74233801
We usually just have a few good fighters getting all the attention, like Hatton in the '00s or Eubank and Benn in the early '90s, with everything else just being of niche interest, but Hearn has been getting good, consistent coverage for quite a wide spread of fighters, which has been great for the sport. I think we actually have more talent than usual around right now due to the amateur system being injected with cash and somewhat overhauled in the lead up to the London Olympics
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Can you imagine what Kovalev would have done to Fonfara?
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boxing gossip podcast live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEY8KFesBqg
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>>74235924
i like this podcast
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Joe Smith Jr. vs. Eleider Alvarez. Who wins?
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>>74236920
Our Joe
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>>74236920

The union man, working class hero
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>>74214595
Everyone was scared to fight Tyson back then. He was a killer. Imagine if he stayed with good people and kept his shit together how good he would've been for a long long time.
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>>74230605
Wow. Just... would you even fight your little brother like this? What in the shit are they doing?
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>lel blood tests hurts my training man
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>>74239664
trading in the pocket.
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Haven't jacked off in 3 days.
Sparring tomorrow.
Wish me luck lads.
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>>74242791
touch em up with teh jab
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>>74242791
Lmao who the fuck still does that. I never listened to any coach that told me to stop
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>>74242815
Manlet, I use my jab to find range and hit em with the power shots. Fighting a taller kid tomorrow. I know he doesn't like body shots so I'll drop nothing but body shots.
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>>74242829
I did it on my own.
The only time I get to fapduring my day is before I go to bed but when I do I don't wake up early enough to run before work.
I'll Jack off Saturday. I usually beat the like 5 times on the weekend.
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>>74242840
light him up with the old razzle dazzle.
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>>74236920
The People's Champ
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name a fight with a more aesthetically pleasing style
>pro tip: you can't
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>>74241595
He agreed to testing twice. Floyd has a retarded tendency to withdraw contracts and re write them and Manny rightfully told him to fuck off after the third time.
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>>74244152
t.pactard #pinoypride
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>>74229890
Yeah he won until he got knocked the fuck out. He got kod he lost the worst way possible admit when your guy got the dogshit beat outta him
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>>74230256
Fucking goats and young boys for that matter is a huge part of paki & middle eastern culture I served over there I've seen it. All down low homosexuals
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>>74242840
What gym do you train at? What city/gym?
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>>74241595
he's afraid of needles...
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All of you plebs need to listen what I have to say about boxing. ESPN pays me a fortune because I'm smarter and better than all of you
I AM BOXING NEWS BITCHES
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>>74242166
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>>74244978
Khan isn't my "guy" I fucking can't stand that cunt.
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>>74241595
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada

>In early March, USADA presented the Pacquiao camp with a contract that allowed the testing agency to grant a retroactive therapeutic use exemption (TUE) to either fighter in the event that the fighter tested positive for a prohibited drug. That retroactive exemption could have been granted without notifying the Nevada State Athletic Commission or the opposing fighter’s camp.

>Team Pacquiao thought that was outrageous and an opportunity for Mayweather to game the system. Pacquiao refused to sign the contract. Thereafter, Mayweather and USADA agreed to mutual notification and the limitation of retroactive therapeutic use exemptions to narrowly delineated circumstances.

>As previously noted, the weigh-in and IV administration occurred on May 1. The fight was on May 2. For 20 days after the IV was administered, USADA chose not to notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the procedure.
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>>74232546
lol, every single one of your responses you've not actually responded to what I've said and started talking about something completely different instead. I was never arguing that having boxing on fta was bad, only that having the PBC in a dominant position is bad because they're a shitty company. Then you said no good fights were made apart from Haymon, I tell you a card that was better than all of them and you start talking about viewing figures.

Again, it's precisely because PBC is about to go under that all the good stuff this year is being made out of desperation. The days when it looked like Haymon might become the sole dominant entity were fucking shit.
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>>74245037
*pulls out boxing cards*
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>the wait between major fights
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>>74246198

Not the same person, I didn't say no good fights were made apart from Haymon. Viewing figures are relevant because boxing will die locked away on premium tv with a viewers average age of 40. PBC non showtime fights last year weren't much different to HBO non PPV fights.

PBC 2016 (non showtime):

Danny Garcia vs Robert Guerrero
Errol Spence Jr vs Chris Algieri
Victor Ortiz vs Andre Berto
Juan Carlos Payano vs Rau'shee Warren
Andrzej Fonfara vs Joe Smith Jr
Artur Beterbiev vs Ezequiel Maderna
Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter
Krzysztof Glowacki vs Steve Cunningham
Errol Spence Jr vs Leonard Bundu
Breidis Prescott vs Levan Ghvamichava
Daniel Jacobs vs Sergio Mora
Jamel Herring vs Denis Shafikov
Adonis Stevenson vs Thomas Williams Jr
Robert Easter Jr vs Richard Commey

HBO 2016 (non PPV):

Sergey Kovalev vs Jean Pascal
Terrance Crawford vs Henry Lundy
Sadam Ali vs Jessie Vargas
Luis Ortiz vs. Tony Thompson
Andre Ward vs Sullivan Barrera
Francisco Vargas vs Orlando Salido
Sergey Kovalev vs Isaac Chilemba
Roman Gonzalez vs Carlos Cuadras
Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Nicholas Walters
Terence Crawford vs. John Molina Jr
Oleksandr Usyk vs Thabiso Mchunu
Bernard Hopkins vs. Joe Smith Jr
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>>74245037
>the weak should fear the strong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF2jfzBaDWo

who else /Rummy/ here?
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>>74247153

90's heavyweight boxing was comfy. The aura of Mike Tyson, Tokyo Douglas, Holyfield's pursuit of Tyson, Foreman becoming world champion at 45, Lennox Lewis the new GOAT, prime Shannon Briggs, Herbie Hide, Frank Bruno, Oliver McCall's mental breakdown
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>>74247220
im a big fan of the McCall,Cooper and Mercer types
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MMA betting group that fancies itself as shrewd tries to tip boxing

>Getting the date of the fight wrong
>Not knowing he's already world champion
>Not realising Joshua's odds have been heavily backed in by casuals from 1.91 pre Molina to 1.44 putting all the value on Klitschko
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>>74247022
Yes but you still didn't respond to my comment though did you, you started talking about something completely different lmao. Boxing is doing just fine with younger viewers on pay tv over here anyway since unlike in the US it's dominated by someone in his 30s rather than 60+ like in the US. They just have no idea how to market in the 21st century and to be honest don't really even have much desire to. Boxing is still making plenty of money without younger viewers who all just stream UFC online without paying anyway. When they get forced to change they will.

Also those HBO cards were on average far better than those PBC ones so I don't know what you're talking about, both from a main event and particularly an undercard perspective.
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>>74247487
pmsl,im betting on Granados and Avenesyan this weekend desu
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>>74247487
Klitschko by KO is amazing value for how little Joshua's chin has actually been checked to be honest. If he can keep himself in it and survive the early rounds when Joshua will be at his best I could genuinely see it coming late. Have 10 on that myself.
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>>74247502

What's your point? You're talking to 2 different people. PBC is comparable to HBO. Thurman vs Porter on CBS is like doing Groves vs Eubank on BBC 1. HBO was slightly better quality but only slightly. Fights like Thurman vs Porter, Berto vs Ortiz, Garcia vs Guerrero, Glowacki vs Cunningham are decent quality fights. Ward vs Kovalev did 160k buys on HBO PPV which is shit.

UK boxing is doing great, hasn't been this good since the 90's. But my point is this: fresh ideas are needed in the US to keep UFC at bay and PBC being shit is over blown.
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>>74245446
>>74245026
>defending a cheater
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>>74247607
> PBC being shit is over blown.

Sure, but again if you'll actually read what I wrote originally it's that Haymon locking the sport down with exclusivity deals and refusing to work with other major promoters so he can attempt to dominate the entire sport is inarguably a bad thing, and so the failure of the PBC to manage to do so is a good thing for everyone involved in the sport.

Similar to the fact that it's quite nice Hearn is suddenly capable taking risks and putting decent cards on this year when he finally isn't the only major player anymore.
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>>74247608
Read the article.
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>>74247678
He's allowed quite a few of his fighters to go on HBO. It's HBO who won't reciprocate

Bob Arum is a much bigger cancer than Haymon desu
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>>74247678

Al Haymon wouldn't be able to lock down the sport because of how decentralised it is. With UFC they could monopolise by throwing money at it as it was still a young sport with poorly paid fighters and they didn't have the Muhammad Ali act or EU employment laws to worry about so could lock people into anti competitive contracts.

Golden Boy have a deal with ESPN, Top Rank have several good fighters under contract and British fighters are becoming more hard to ignore. Spence is with Al Haymon and he'll have to fight in the UK, Joshua is one knockout away from overtaking Canelo as the new face of the sport.
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>>74204949
aboriginal probably mixed with white spaniard at some point in his family line
we call our local country people "chinos" because, well, they look asian
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>>74248110
isn't a bit odd to call your natives a name designed for a foreign population? why not nativos?
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I think Khan's problem isn't just his chin, it's also that he has poor recovery time. When he gets hurt, he stays hurt.

Look at the Maidana fight. He got hurt, and was hurt for the rest of the round. Or look at the Garcia fight. He got dropped in the 3rd round, and went right back to getting dropped and hurt in the 4th, despite having a minute to recover.
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>>74248220
He generally has a bad defence
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>>74248242
This. His chin is bad, but the fact that he gets hit with so many huge punches without taking anything at all off them is worse
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OFFICIAL RANDOM FOREIGN OPPONENT ON BRITISH CARDS POWER RANKINGS

1. Teak Tough Ghanaians
2. Central Americans - life on the mean streets of Tegucigalpa prepares them well for the big stage of Wigan Leisure Centre
3. French - white black or brown, they are surprisingly game and iron chinned
4. Poles - always willing to do a passable job for cheap
5. Good Argies

99. Bad Argies
999. Ex-Yugos - huge underachievers in the boxing world
9999. Hungarian Bouncers
99999. Pregnant Latvians
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>>74248446
Lithuanians are the worst. Their heads are made of concrete but they have no skills whatsoever

Mexican journeymen will always be #1

Italians are always a good test with their awkward styles

I've noticed a few Hungarians doing the rounds lately and having a good go at it. Might just be one guy though, can't remember
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>>74248484
Oh sorry, you already mentioned Hungary

Hard-hitting Colombians used to be notorious a while ago, though I've seen fewer of them lately
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>>74248615
>mfw he's gonna meme it out fighting only in manchester and break the 49-0 record
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>>74248055
>Joshua is one knockout away from overtaking Canelo as the new face of the sport.
Idk about that, maybe British boxing. but Mayweather and Pacquiao are still the main face. Canelo is the standout of the new wave. Joshua will never make the kind of money Canelo makes. And he's a good lookin Mexican who looks white so that automatically puts him above a black dude from another continent
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Glad everyone is being sensible, truly is the case that a retired MMA fighter is the perfect practice before fighting the GOAT boxer of this generation.
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>>74248721
He's just keeping the belt warm for Lomachenko desu
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>>74248757
Once Canelo finally ends the stupid GGG hype train late this year/next year he'll be the undisputed face of the sport, even if Floyd comes back for a stupid McGregor fight.
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>>74248757
>Joshua will never make the kind of money Canelo makes.

Pretty sure he's already getting like ÂŁ5m per fight against the likes of Martin, Breazeale and Molina and like ÂŁ15m against Wlad
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>>74248824
I really like Canelo, but there's no way he wins against Golovkin
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>>74248856
I think he has a solid chance. He'll definitely be able to land some nice clean punches on Golovkin as he comes forward, and Canelo's unerrated head movement will make it difficult for GGG to land cleanly himself

But then Canelo's lack of lateral movement might be his downfall in the end
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>>74204949
>>74248110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFL1ZbraJaI&t=4m18s

4:18
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How long until Stevenson gets old overnight and gets knocked out?
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>>74248897
I mean Canelo is a good counter puncher, but he's used to be the big guy dictating it in the ring, even when he fought floyd he was the one doing the pressuring, I don't know how he'd react to the bigger and arguably stronger Golovkin.
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>>74248916
Actually his best performances were against fighters that came to him and presented him with openings, as Golovkin would. When he's forced to lead he looks less convincing. He's essentially a guy who just likes to plant himself in the middle of the ring, catch and slip the punches coming at him and land big flashy counters in return. I think this will be very effective against Golovkin at first but towards the end of the fight he might start getting bullied backwards and then he's in trouble. Or Golovkin could surprise him and fight cautiously, behind the jab, like he did against Lemieux and give him nothing to counter
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>>74247022
All the pbc shows you listed are literally undercard tier fights
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>>74248198
Latinos do this all over the place. My family from my mother side is from Cuba, and they are descendants of Black slaves and Chinese laborers.
If someone's black they call them negra/o and if they have slightly slanted eyes they'll be called Chino/a. If they're skinny they name them flacca/o.

>Tl;Dr: Latinos aren't creative with their nicknames.
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>>74248494
Columbia isn't as violent as it used to be, so less kids are boxing to avoid violence.
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>>74249026
Golovkin wouldn't get reckless with Canelo, despite all the shit we talk he is a good, young, powerful and big fighter.
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>>74248856
Canelo beats Golovkin inside the distance †bh, the age and the fact that Golovkin can't help but leave himself open will be his undoing, he's never faced anyone like Canelo. Trip so that however far in the future this turns out to be, I can return to reference this post once I am proven correct.
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>>74249099
He only leaves himself open vs bad fighters, go watch his fight vs Lemieux and see if he fights recklessly
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>>74248843
Canelo probably made Joshua's entire year on the Smith fight alone
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you lads realise Canelo is ducking GGG cus he punished canelo in sparring
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>>74249030

>literally undercard
>it's the main event

Most of the HBO fights were undercard material as well despite being a premium channel. Compare the two best fights in terms of importance from each:

Keith Thurman (Decimal Odds 1.57) vs Shawn Porter (Odds 2.30) for the WBA Welterweight title. Was a bigger fight than Lomachenko (Odds 1.25) vs Walters (Odds 4.00) for the WBO super featherweight title.
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>>74249118
Lemieux couldn't work his jab at all because he was too scared of having to trade so he resorted to running away and throwing stupid bombs that were never going to connect. Canelo has the technique and power to be able to throw the first jab GGG will actually have to respect. He'll have to take a lot more chances than he did against Lemieux and if he gets caught with something big that's it.
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>>74248912
When Joe "The People's Champ" Smith knocks him out
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>>74249229
No GGG and Canelo are ducking one another because they both know this fight makes a lot more money if they do it in 2018 than if they do it now.
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>>74249228

Because they're at different stages of their career. Mexicans in Mexico don't buy PPV. If Anthony Joshua beats Klitschko by knockout in front of 90,000 people you can bet American promoters will be falling over themselves to have him fight in New York and Las Vegas.
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>>74248843
You underestimate just how much more US PPVs make, it's really not even close still.
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>>74249273
Not when he has nearly zero name recognition here among casual fans
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>>74249246

I think Smith could beat Stevenson.
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>>74249286

Joshua will go to America if he wins by KO. Eddie Hearn has already been on at them to put the money up. A heavyweight star who can knock people out will always rapidly rise to the top.

>>74249301

Under Armour and Showtime will change that fast. If Klitschko gets knocked out they will take him there and say "this is the new mike tyson, animal!"
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>>74249273
>Because they're at different stages of their career. Mexicans in Mexico don't buy PPV.

Yes but Mexicans in America do, and they pay $60 for the privilege rather than ÂŁ17.

>you can bet American promoters will be falling over themselves to have him fight in New York and Las Vegas.

What would be the point in that? He has no fanbase there at all and you would lose all of the UK viewing figures by having it in the US since it would be on so late here.
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>>74249326

Lennox Lewis went to America, Naz went to America. When a Brit appears to have the IT factor because he's either dominant or charismatic that's where you go, then your PPV sells for $60. Look how quickly McGregor became a star in UFC clearing a million PPV buys. The big corporations will get behind him and hype him to casuals.
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>>74247607

I disagree with this whole post. PBC is cancer. Those fights are few and far between for an org that has that many top names signed.

As for Ward/Kov, that should've never been on PPV. Ward belongs on undercards, not PPV. But that doesn't mean HBO isn't better at ever level from production to announcing team. The Haymon thing is a mirage and only able to float because he got "free" money, from someone else, to throw down the drain.
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>>74249359
>Lennox Lewis went to America, Naz went to America.

Yes, by fighting Americans people cared about over there. Wilder can't even sell out tiny arenas in his hometown and he's the biggest, times have changed. There is nobody for Joshua to fight, and if he goes over there he loses all his UK fanbase since for it to be on at US primetime nobody in the UK could watch. It's far more likely Wilder comes over here than the reverse to be honest.
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>>74249394

Anthony Joshua will suffer from lack of competition I concede that but Wilder at least looks the part. What's Wilder is his refusal to fight legit opponents, you can't keep getting away with conning the public and build a following.

I don't think time difference would matter, Mayweather vs Hatton and Mayweather vs Pacquiao both still cleared a million here I think.
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>>74249228
That only sold 300k PPVs. Assuming Canelo got 75% of the purse, $60 x 300,000 = $18m. Take away 50% for the distributor and network, leaving $9m. 75% of $9m is $6,750,000 or about ÂŁ5.5m. Joshua made about that much against Whyte and will make much more against Wlad
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>>74249377

It might be a mirage or he might get a tv deal and then it becomes sustainable. Live sport should be worth more to tv channels as people don't want to watch it on catch up and it can still get ratings when people are giving up subscriptions.
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>>74249482
It was 70 dollars I believe
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boxing ppv are pure cancer and destroying the sport.
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>>74249441
They're not comparable at all, Joshua has a lot of casual fans who are interested in his career because they've heard of him and he's marketable. Hatton's fans were more like football fans, diehards who'd follow him to the ends of the earth type deal, and Mayweather and Pacquiao were the 2 biggest stars in world boxing basically, Wilder is barely even relevant in his hometown as I said.
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>>74249562
Fucking hell, you lot need to go on strike until they bring the price down
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Joshua vs Wilder in Las Vegas with proper promotion does 300,000 buys at $60 and 900,000 buys in the UK at ÂŁ17. AJ is your new God.
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>>74249394
Agreed. There's no financial reason for Joshua to ever leave the UK at this point, he should only travel if it's on his bucket list or something
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>>74249588
900k people will not stay up until 5am to watch Anthony Joshua fight a worse opponent than Klitschko, let alone pay ÂŁ17 for the privilege. I'd recommend laying off the Hearn propaganda for a while.
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>>74249651

You're wrong. If Mayweather vs Pacquiao can do it at 5am which didn't involve a British fighter then Joshua off the back of a big win will do it against an American. You're underestimating how much Eddie Hearn will ram up the hype machine if he gets his dream scenario.
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>>74249720
Are you sure? I mean May-Pac were much bigger names than Joshua and especially Wilder will ever be. I'm not the brit though.
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>>74249359

fuck, Amir Khan went to America for the money and he's not even elite
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>>74249377
You mad white boy?
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>>74249720
Mate, you're comparing the biggest fight in history to AJ fighting somebody who won't even be his best opponent to date after Klitschko. This is all assuming he even wins that which isn't guaranteed at all.
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>>74249744

I do because the casuals that buy it here are football fans. It's national rivalry and people have always liked heavyweights that knock people out and the Wembley fight will give him a lot of exposure. Casuals here weren't watching Pacquiao vs Marquez to know the fighter they latched onto the hype.
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I thought I was seeing reposts, but then I realized that this thread is just old as fuck.
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>>74249816

Same amount of posters as a /heem/ thread though, just less shitty memes so moves slower. People only post like now when we're having an argument
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Is Thurman vs Garcia PPV in America?
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>>74249359
>>74249784
I don't think any of them were PPV fighters though. Back then HBO and Showtime were paying higher licensing fees and the British channels were paying less. These days HBO don't seem to pay more than $2m per card. It's more lucrative for the cream of British boxing to stay over here now
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>>74249910
Nah free TV on CBS.
>Tfw got the Based fire stick and haven't paid for ppv over a year.
If ya haven't gotten it you're missing out mah dude.
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>>74249958
Yeah British boxing seems to be blowing up. To bad the time zones are so different, if it wasn't the sky would be the limit might even match the Mexican/Hispanic fanbase.
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>>74249958
UFC big card on that night, I think the boxing will really struggle to get viewers on that night you have Wonderboy vs Tyron Woodley so that will get the media attention, do Americans even know who Thurman and Garcia are?
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>>74249998

Thurman has been on CBS and NBC before with PBC. The PBC launch show with Thurman did over 3 million viewers and Thurman vs Porter did 2 million viewers
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>>74249998

urban american knows who garcia and thurman are, but middle class america will be watching the UFC
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>>74249998
>Wonderboy vs Tyron Woodley
Literally who are these people?
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>>74249959
Seriously How's that firestick shit work, I've only heard about that
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>>74250055
This fight is bigger than both of those and they're promoting it more than those. I even see it getting over 4 million viewers
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>>74248198
nativo is like the pc version.chino is strangely enough how they call themselves
whites here call every skin colour thats not white "negro" (black)
dude the entire world calls american aboriginals indians even though none of them are pajeets, go figure
chino isnt any more fucked up
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>>74250202
Literally this
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>>74249998
Last time thurman was on it got like 3 million views. Danny GarcĂ­a is a much bigger name that porter so unless UFC magically gets mcgregor and rousey on the PPV free prime time boxing will get more views.
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>>74250350
You buy the fire stick and download this program called Kodi. It let's you stream from whatever sources are streaming meaning you get literally hundreds of channels at a time. Quality is like 240p average and 360 if your lucky but as long as you have decent Internet speed you can watch ppvs and fights for free. If ya don't want to install Kodi go on ebay and get the stick with Kodiak already on it. I got it from a friend for 50 but they sell for around 100 market value. Considering a ppv is like 60$ it pays for itself within 2 ppv events
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>>74252035

>reduced to fighting the I'm An Ass Man wrestler from WWE

hang em up Roy
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Is Don King dead yet?
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>>74252111
>trips of doom
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Why are the Irish such good boxers?
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> le black man of many dodges will never fight again
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>>74252532
Carb loading.
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>>74247118
>the hungry should fear the full
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>>74249720
eddie hearn studied hyping at university
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>slow thread

Disgusting.
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>not a heavyweight

why box?
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Why isn't jay mohr on fox sports radio anymore why is Dan byer talking where is jay
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>>74253106
>doing sports radio

Wow, Jerry Maguire was a long time ago.
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>>74252977
>the beaver should fear the moose
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>KO
>O
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>>74253151
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NEW THREAD

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>>74253325
>>74253325
>>74253325
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>>74247220

The Rahman riot was one of the GOAT moments in boxing desu.
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>>74249243
>Lemieux couldn't work his jab at all because he was too scared of having to trade so he resorted to running away and throwing stupid bombs that were never going to connect.

how could you possibly know this?
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