/nfl/ general - TRUTH edition

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>bills

The Steelers lost to Tim Tebow

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Friendly reminder that Chris Long was drafted ahead of Matt Ryan and won a Superbowl before him

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>>74191583
Its all coming up Rams, boys :^)

Browns should do what he Seahawks did in 2011 before they drafted Wilson and just load up on Defense prospects, they got two first rounders including the number 1
This years draft is fucking horrid for QBs, build that defense first then offense next year

>>74191781
>If the Browns were smart, they would.....

They're not. Move along.

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>there have been just 7 comebacks of 25 or more points over the entire 15,000 game history of the NFL
>this was number 8

Is Kyle Orton still alive? Sober? The Bills should really consider using an actual professional quarterback at some point.

Remember when people thought the Falcons were good?

So lads, who does Joe Mixon go to?

>>74191913
DEM BOYZ

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>>74191892

They got beat by Tom 'Il Magnifico' Brady. There's no shame in that.

>>74191892
>Julio is god, he is going to get 200. If you double him, Sanu and Gabriel will wreck the Cheatriots.
>Your LBs can't cover our RBs.
>Our defense only looks bad because garbage time. Cheatriots don't have any weapons with Gronk ded. We play man coverage, Edelman and your whitebois can only play against zone.
>Beasley is going to kill Brady.
>Cheatriots haven't played a good passing offense this year. Their defense is overrated.
>Time of possession doesn't matter, >we will be up by 30.

Did I miss any other big ones?

>

>>74191922
I loved the garbage time argument. As if giving up big leads in the 4th quarter was anything but a terrible sign. A defense that can't stop anyone when the game is on the line is not one you want going into the super bowl.

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>>74191892
>seahawks used to have the biggest blown lead in the SB and worst SB loss of all time
>falcons have now taken our place for both
>still have no Owl
>people already forgetting about the Butler INT

>>74191959
>people already forgetting about the Butler INT
Sorry, anon, but nope. Nobody will ever forget the Butler INT.

It's just a different type of meltdown. ATL melted down slowly over the course of a quarter. Seattle took Belichick's bait and melted down in an instant, throwing away the owl with one bad play.

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>>74191959

>people already forgetting about the Butler INT

yeah just like they've already forgotten about 18-1

oh wait

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>social media snowflakes having another meltdown after Tom Brady posts a poem by a supposed 'white supremacist' on Facebook

this timeline keeps on delivering lads

>>74191922
>tfw New England defense did a better job vs Atlanta than Denver/Seattle
who /eliteD/ here?

>>74192011

Just ask yo momma bout mine

>>74191959
People still remember Jackie Smith's drop in the endzone.
People still remember Don McNeal being run over by Riggins.
People still remember Marino's crybaby shit after the 49ers got a big lead.
People still remember the snap flying over Peyton's head, and the collapse that followed.

You will be remembered, Cam will be remembered, and ATL will be remembered.
Forever.

what would be better for Brady's legacy: beating Rodgers or Eli next year

>>74191985
>this timeline

wat

are you a time traveler?

what would be better for Dak's legacy: beating Brady or Brady next year

Cash me outside, how bout Dak?

>>74191959
>>people already forgetting about the Butler INT
You and I both know that's a lie.

>>74192329
bad post

>>74191922
I'm not a pats hater but I very much doubt half of these were said

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Wakey wakey /nfl/

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So why haven't either of these two teams been relocated yet?

>>74194433
Panthers got some real fans although I'm not sure the city itself can support it for so long since it's so small market and isolated with too much competition around it.

Jaguars will leave at some point I have no doubt about this. Regardless of the fans it's just a matter of there being more potential in other areas of the US.

>>74191959
I will never EEEEVVVEEERRRR forget about that, you non-binary dickweed

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>>74191489
You just wait,49ers will be good in about 3 years and will win a super bowl in the next 6

>>74194610

all that unjustified optimism is a sight to behold

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>>74194631
Nothing wrong with being Optimistic

>>74194475
The panthers were potentially going to move to St. Louis when the Rams left but then they went 15-1 and now they have no move plans

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>>74191532
>WAS: 'Good chance' Cousins gets more than Luck
LMAO HOLY FUCKING SHIT MY SIDES

>>74195311
>implying he's not going to the 49ers with Shanahan

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Tom Brady

>>74195724
sucks

>>74195724
i could literally play qb better than this faggot if i didnt fuck up my knee in college

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>>74195756
Man you were great.
what could have been

>>74191985
Name of poet and poem?

>>74195756
If by "fuck up my knee in college" you mean "never played organized football in my entire life", I believe you.

>>74195724
I can kick his ass

>>74195805
If by Rudyard Kipling.

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Browns
2. Mitch Trubisky, QB, 49ers
3. Jamal Adams, S, Bears
4. Jonathan Allen, DE, Jaguars
5. Malik Hooker, S, Titans
6. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Jets
7. Reuben Foster, LB, Chargers
8. Leonard Fournette, RB, Panthers
9. Solomon Thomas, DE, Bengals
10. Deshaun Watson, QB, Bills
11. Derek Barnett, DE, Saints
12. Teez Tabor, CB, Browns
13. Mike Williams, WR, Cardinals
14. Dalvin Cook, RB, Eagles
15. Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Colts
16. Jabril Peppers, DB/LB, Ravens
17. Takkarist McKinley, OLB, Redskins
18. Corey Davis, WR, Titans
19. John Ross, WR, Buccaneers
20. OJ Howard, TE, Broncos
21. Malik McDowell, DT, Lions
22. Zach Cunningham, ILB, Dolphins
23. Deshone Kizer, QB, Giants
24. Taco Charlton, Raiders
25. Cam Robinson, OT, Texans
26. Forrest Lamp, OG, Seahawks
27. Marlon Humphrey, CB, Chiefs
28. Charles Harris, OLB, Cowboys
29. Sidney Jones, CB, Packers
30. Tim Williams, OLB, Steelers
31. Caleb Brantley, DT, Falcons
32. Dan Feeney, OG, Patriots

Watching rugby on ESPN, it's the America's rugby championship, USA vs. Brazil, and there are NFL players taking part in it.

USA is absolutely destroying Brazil and I'm sitting here wondering why the NFL doesn't do as many lateral passes as rugby?

If you really think about it I think the risk of a TO doesn't out weigh the increased chances of huge runs and scoring on that run.

Just spam screen passes and have a trailing WR catch a lateral after the RB is cornered.

>>74196122
49ers wont draft a QB that early
or i hope they don't

>>74196122
>7. Reuben Foster, LB, Chargers

I like this.

>mitch trubisky
>worth a first round pick
LMAO

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>>74191968
>>74191972
>>74192019
>>74192375
>>74194567
>being this obsessed over the fucking seahawks of all teams

>>74196167
>>74196263
what should happen =/= what actually will happen

i don't like trubisky, i think he lacks experience, but with the grades scouts are giving him and a really weak QB class he's probably going to go in the top 5 and almost certainly the top 15 picks.

>>74196333
WHY NOT POST WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD HAPPEN RATHER THAN SOME RETARDED GRASP?

CAPS LOCK UNINTENTIONAL

>>74196360
because it's a mock draft, you're supposed to predict what will actually happen.

i tried to make as many "good" draft picks for teams as i could, but the fact remains that someone is going to reach on trubisky and you have to factor that into the rest of the draft. 49ers are just the most likely candidate due to their new coaching situation

>>74196401
SO BASICALLY A FUCKING RETARDED CRAPSHOOT

NICE WORK

100% boring plastic scripted manufactured shite

>>74196439
every single mock draft in the history of everything is a crapshoot because no one knows what will happen until draft day, i hope you realize that.

having the 49ers select someone other than trubisky would actually make it less realistic at this point, so i'm not going to do that. there's no need to have an autistic fit over something this basic.

Who do u think the 49ers shoul draft that early?

>>74196487
>EVERY MOCK DRAFT IS A CRAPSHOOT
>DONT BE AUTISTIC
IRONY MUCH

>>74196503
A DE

>>74196304
Obsessed with laughing at you maybe

>>74196513
stop bullying her

>>74196503
should? almost any of the top 10 prospects would be good, they have a ton of holes. fournette would probably be a bad choice with hyde already there, but any of the defensive prospects would help the rebuild, and though mike williams would be an overdraft at #2 imo, he'd be a okay fit.

problem is that the niners really do have a QB need, so if they don't get someone like cousins or jimmy g they need to consider it in the draft. trubisky has issues, but he does have NFL traits, and kyle shanahan is supposed to be good for QBs. i think the most likely pick is a QB, but i wouldn't be blown away if they went with jonathan allen or something.
>>74196513
that's not what irony means. take a breather, idiot.

>>74196562
i hope you realize how pathetic that actually sounds

>>74196484
>implying divegrass isn't exactly the same if not worse

americans answer me
>>74192298

>>74196561
They should go for myles garret
>>74196574
Hopefully they go for Cousins or Jimmy,i've heard he might like schaub cause he knows his system.
is he anygood?

>>74196574
>DOES AUTISTIC THING
>TELLS ME TO NOT BE AUTISTIC
YEAH THATS IRONY, I THOUGHT YOU AUTISTICS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SMART?

>>74196589
it doesn't really matter 6 rings is 6 rings.

>>74196586
Less pathetic than being a Xecucks fan

>>74196603
Schaub is the greatest Houston Texans Quarterback of all time

but to answer your question no

>>74196608
>pot calling the kettle black
ke

>>74196603
schaub? he's washed up at this point, i can definitely see them signing him as a backup maybe, falcons did the same.

cousins would be huge though if they can get him for less than luck. he wouldn't perform as well as he did on the redskins, but he's a better QB than probably anyone in this draft and a good foundation for the new era of the team.
>>74196604
yeah ok bud

>>74196627
I'm not black because my team isn't the Seachimps

>>74196646
>fag calling the gay faggot
either way you're just as bad as the rest of them

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Would you buy these replicas if you had the chance?

>>74196622
Wow really
>>74196641
see i want them to go for cousins but alot of people have said it would be a waste.
i can't see how he would be a waste as he has proved himself to be a decent quarterback.

Any good players on free agency?
49ers players couldn't catch shit last season

>>74196670
hell no, they look tacky as fuck

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Mock drafting begins.

>>74196670
no. i dislike jewlery and those look incredibly cumbersome to wear

>>74196654
>t. us12

>>74196672
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000773220/article/top-25-free-agents-of-2017

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

there will be more free agents as teams cut players on bad deals

>>74196672
the problem is that cousins is by far the best quarterback available this offseason so he's probably going to command a fuckton of money. 49ers have the cap space to pay him now, but it might cause some issues in the future if they backloaded his contract.

best WRs available in free agency are alshon jeffrey and pierre garcon/desean jackson. i think djax is going to stay in washington, but either one of them could move if cousins jumps ship. martellus bennett could be a factor as well, he might just want to get paid now.

>>74196702
>t. projecting faggot
stay mad crybaby

>>74196128
i always think this, but one answer i've seen before is the ball isn't suited for this

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How are Stoolers fans feeling about getting blown the fuck out in Foxborough in the playoffs again next year?

>>74196715
>>74196703
Would jimmy be less money
i don't know if he has proven himself but he looked ok when in for brady

>>74196734
i doubt they even get that far

what teams have beaten brady in foxborough?

>>74196734
you assume the steelers are making it again next year

>>74196670
I always forget how shit that logo is until I stare at it
It's like 1970s Optimus Prime's head in the form of one of those triangle flags

>>74192298
Eli and it's not even close. Rodgers is talented, but him being anywhere close to Brady in terms of accomplishments is entirely a media creation.

>>74196753
>>74196759
Their division is a joke, they 100% will at 10-6

>>74196756

Bills were the last team to do it but they didn't play against Brady...

>>74196788
are you sure about that?

>>74196769
are you suggesting eli is actually better than rodgers?

jffm please

>>74196756
Last team was Shitattle against a Pats defense that had just shipped Collins away and played like garbage

>>74196751
jimmy is under contract for the next year, so in the short term yes. he will be a free agent at the end of next year so you'd have to pay him then, but it would definitely be less than cousins.

to get him this offseason though you'd probably have to trade your second round pick though. but if it means you can draft a non-QB with the 2nd overall pick it could end up being worth it.
>>74196756
a couple. the last two games brady lost in foxborough were to the eagles and the seahawks.

>>74196756
Besides the NFCE teams, Seahawks did it last year, Ravens have a couple times. I think it's like 11 in total, the Patriots have the best home record of all North American sports teams. It's pretty ridiculous.

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>>74196756
49ers beat them

>>74196797
>implying the pats didnt have a chance to win the game on the 1 yard line

>>74196794

No, it just sticks out to me because >we were shutout at home

>>74196795
Nobody would ever suggest that unless they want to be forcibly committed. But Eli and the Giants beat Brady and the Pats in 2 Owls, so that puts Eli on top as far as Brady legacy goes.

>>74196815
Bad playcalling, Pats are notorious for playing slow as fuck coming off a bye see: super bowl

>>74196128
>>74196721
NFL coaches are extremely risk averse, everybody wants to play field position and ball control.

Coaches get scared every time they call a toss play, so multiply that fear many times over and that's how they would feel about a lateral in any sort of crowd.

>>74196827
>the super bowl that they won
pats fans are literally clueless

>>74196827
This. I was worried as fuck for them at the Owl, and even after the bye week against the Texans.

>>74196839
>I didn't watch the first half at all

>>74196794
The Pats started Jacoby Brissett in that Bills game this year. Jimmy G was injured and Brady was on suspension. Turns out Jacoby was injured, too. Thumb injury, didn't play well.

The Bills also won at Foxboro in Week 17 in 2014, but Belichick rested his starters that week.

>>74196844
>i didn't watch any of the game
wouldn't expect less from new england desu

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>>74196756
these are regular season only and one he didnt start

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>>74196605
>eli beating brady for the 3rd time
man that would permanently cement eli as the ultimate patriots slayer

>>74196861
Seahawks, Texans, Falcons

Literally 3 examples just this year of the Pats playing like shit for at least a half coming off a bye

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>>74196734
DELET THIS

>>74196875
>pats had a bye
>seahawks had less than a week
>pats still lose
really makes you think

>>74191913
He will likely be taken on a team that needs help at the position that woukdnt care about the troubled history

Hinestly, i think hes gonna wind up a brown

>>74193692
As a regular lurker i assure all of those were said at one point

>>74196756
Brady has like a 120-16 record at home since he started

>>74196904
Literally an aberration, Pats wound up holding Atlanta to 21 points and the Seacucks couldn't even score a touchdown on the fucking Bucs

Pats always get one meme loss a year

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>>74196866
Shieet san fran put 41 on them

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>>74196867
>Pats go 14-2
>Gnats go 9-7 and back their way into the wild card after somebody (let's say the Vikings) chokes it away

>Gnats win LII over Pats after Sterling Shepard unwittingly catches a tipped pass between his thighs

>>74191913
Could be the Pats. They took Floyd after all. And the Chiefs took Hill after he did something similar.

Some coach who doesn't give a fuck will pick him up for cheap and every other coach too afraid of the media backlash will cry about it.

>>74196930
>meme loss
>have a chance to win and fail
>meme

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>>74196913
101-17 are his regular season splits

>>74196947
They had to put up 31 against a top 5 defense just to tie, that's a fucking meme loss

>>74196930
thats because the bucs actually tried to rush the passer and the pats were retarded and thought they could just float 7 man coverages thinking the 'wilson cant read defenses' meme is true

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Losers report in

>>74196934
either way its something that the world would never forget and remember eli manning as the patriots kyptonite if this happens.

>>74196949
>183 wins
bit old, desu

>>74196978
i just made it, it's his regular season splits, doesnt include playoffs

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Soon

>>74196960
Patriots were constantly rushing 2-3 players. It wasn't something Seattle specific, they did that almost every game. Pats had the highest % of plays when they rushed fewer than 4 players

as much as i hate the patriots they get all the respect they deserve from belichick down to brady down to hightower, its just the pats fans because they are really not true fans of the game of football (which brady and belichick have always loved and admired) but rather that the pats are just winning. once B & B retire most of the pats fans will say "football isn't as fun as it use to be anymore" and its sickening

>>74196949
>>74196993
Ah okay, I was wondering about the numbers too. So his totals probably 120 something to 20 losses. Thanks

>>74197016
>wasn't something Seattle specific
I would believe this to be true if it weren't the fact that Seattle's oline was shit all last year and yet they held the patriots off wilson pretty good... for that game that is

>>74196866
>that Eagles game
I was there. Right after Brady caught that pass he threw a pick. Special teams were a fucking mess

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>>74196934
>let's say the Vikings

>>74197048
That was also the game after they traded Jamie Collins and getting everything set on defense without him. It sucks, but nobody wins every game in a season

>>74197053
Do you have the 49ers version of this

>>74197064
Jamie didn't do shit for the patriots

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>>74197064
>nobody wins every game in a season
you got that right bucko ;)

>>74197079

Nah dude, he definitely did. Shame it came down to a numbers game, I'd still like to have him on the Pats.

>>74197064
le 1972 dolphins

>>74197048
It is true. Rewatch the AFCCG, they constantly rushed 3 against one of the best O-lines in the league, got pressure on like 5 out of 50 drop backs and still held the Steelers to 9 non garbage time points.

That's just how this defense was designed to work, it just backfired vs Seattle because the coverage couldn't hold

>>74197079
Still takes time to fill his spot with rookies and trades and make it all work like a machine.

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>modern QB's will never be as good as older ones because they and their receivers are so protected.

>>74197227
>he rents-to-own his replicas

>>74196670
Is the 5th ring made yet? Does anyone know what it looks like?

>>74197214
O-line used to be able to get away with a lot more too

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>>74197214
>tfw this is discussed way more often than the salary cap and free agency when comparing eras.

Makes me sick

Could prime Deion Sanders cover prime Randy Moss?

>>74197307
No question.

>>74194433

The Panthers will never move. The owner's smart and wrote into his will that the team will not be moved out of Charlotte. I think he's even cut off family members who have suggested otherwise.

>>74197313
Could CB Deion cover WR Deion?

>>74197326
Deion > Deion, all day.

>Oh, but what about Deion?

Fuck him.

>>74197326
Yes

Could Moss cover Jerry Rice

>>74197357
No

Could Rice cover Tim Brown?

Could elite CB cover elite WR?

>>74197380
>Elite
>WR
Pick one

Could Darrell Green cover Tyreek Hill?

>>74191532
>WAS: 'Good chance' Cousins gets more than Luck
Just fuck my team up famalam

Fuck the 49ers for driving his price up when he obviously wasn't going to leave the Redskins

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>>74197399

If the Falcons had won would they have become the new Xehawks?

I still don't get why Jordy Nelson was awarded the comeback player of the year. Le'Veon bell had a much more significant season and only got one vote

>>74197433
>new xehawks
no because at least the xehawks have made the playoffs every season since 2011. the falcons will likely be 7-9 next year and miss the playoffs all together

>>74197357
i dont think moss grows on people

>>74197467
When Moss was green, not a single could hang with him

>>74197435

White privilege

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>>74197241
Not until June at the earliest. Get the rings passed out before training camp.

>>74197435
Because the media wouldn't know what to do with itself if it didn't suck off the Packers every chance it got.

>>74197435
jordy didnt even get to play last season and leveon wont stop self inflicting suspensions on himself like a retard

Could Edelmensch cover Jordy Nelson

>>74196128
>it works so well every time a team tries this hoping for the miracle kick return to win the game

Yeah, I wonder why they don't do this. Also, we have forward passes.

>>74197435
I thought cameron wake was the most deserving but Bell was too.

It's a lot harder to come back from injuries in your 30's than your mid 20's.

Paul Krause has 81 Career Interceptions

>>74197435
>le shoot yourself in the foot with suspensions man

Anyone else get Madden for $20 and regret it?

I havent bought it in 3 years. Its the same atrocious menus. Im destroying kids with the same 5 plays
>HB Dive
>QB Sneak
>Mesh
>Four Verticals
>Inside Cross

People quit if you're up 7-0 and get a turnover. Getting cute with scrambling QBs.
No one runs and no one punts.

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>>74196128
It makes them less special.

>>74197637
>Playing madden online when all the school kids are home

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How bad will they be next season?

Worse than the Jests?
Worse than the Browns
Worse than the Whiners?

>>74197704
6-10

>>74197637
I bought Madden 15 for $13 because I thought it would be like FIFA but with football. The game sucks. It looks bad, the atmosphere is painfully absent, and the available plays are too restrictive and not very fun. It's too arcade-y but at the same time it's no fun at all. Sometimes times I want to break Peyton's legs and take the personal foul penalty, but the game doesn't even let you be violent at all. The last one I bought was Madden 09 it it sucked too.

>>74197704
>tfw sweeping the razorcakes was the highlight of our season

>>74196122
Why would the Bills want ANOTHER QB, especially in the 1st?

>>74196128
>USA is absolutely destroying Brazil and I'm sitting here wondering why the NFL doesn't do as many lateral passes as rugby?
Because the defense can tackle the runner at any point, there is no offside tackle rule, the defense can just knock the ball out of bounds, the defense doesn't have to worry about knock-ons, there is a very good chance the offense will start holding or block in the back, the list goes on and on.

>>74197781
because they still dont have one?

I mean tyrod's alright but hes not a long term solution.

Any good games to watch today?

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>>74191959
Literally never forget.

>>74197809
bills might not even resign tyrod.

also i have nothing against him, but deshaun watson can do everything he can and is a better pocket passer. i'd even take deshone kizer over taylor at this point since he's younger and has a higher ceiling

>>74198101
obviously

Watson is a huge reach at that spot though, but I wouldn't put it past the bills.

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>>74198101
So when will coaches realize that meme running spook QBs have extremely short shelf life and come back to the good ol' days of the white pocket passer who can be the face of your franchise for 15-20 years.

>>74198134
you have no idea whats happening in the college game do you?

fuck off retard

>>74197637
If you want to play online you need a proper league with rules and stuff, randoms ragequit as soon as they start losing and do stupid shit like constantly go for it on 4th down at their own 10 yard line. People are vulnerable to plays like that because the AI is awful at defending against them, you need to know how to user your defenders to really defend well against them. Madden is really fun if you play with people who actually play the game instead of autistic 12 year olds

>yfw the Raiders win the draftb owl and resignb owl

>>74198101
Watson is good, but I think he needs bench time in the NFL before he starts. He looked great against Alabama, bit he's thrown a bunch of interceptions too. He needs some seasoning

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>>74198191
>rams vs. raidturds super bowl
>this is the result

>>74198131
watson had accuracy issues last year, but i still think he's the best QB prospect this year by far. he's as good of a pocket passer as trubisky (he also performed against much harder opponents in college) and being a dual threat increases his value on a team that lives off its running game. it would be a reach, but the 10th overall pick is at the point in the draft where the truly game changing prospects are mostly gone.
>>74198207
i agree, which is why they would be fine drafting him with taylor still on the team. let him get a small taste of NFL defenses and mature and you could have the next mcnair or moon on your hands.

>>74198134
i think any running QB has extremely short shelf life, just look at andrew luck and soon for carson wentz if he just realizes to throw away the ball is a lot of times better than running it for a few yards. i hope wilson does get better at pocket passing instead of always trying to run the ball. guy has a heart of a champion but a lot of times i know his fans cringe when he begins to run.

>>74198231
didnt the bills just draft cardale jones?

>>74198157
>College success translates to NFL success

>>74198240
Wilson's usually pretty smart about how he runs though

Luck and rg3 just think they can take any shot

>>74197433
Nobody in Atlanta gives enough of a shit about them.

Did you see the fans waiting after they came back?. Shit on the Seahawks fans all you want, but They were there after SB49 for the team.

>>74198252

he was a fourth rounder and needs a lot of work anyways

>>74198258
thats not what I said retard?

o whats wrong, cant you read?

the reason there are more mobile qbs is because college teams want athletic qb for their spread systems.

>>74198252
cardale jones is not very good.

funnily enough, if he had declared after the OSU championship he probably would have gone in the first round.

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>>74198270
thats funny because after the seacocks lost to the panthers last year they were all welcomed back by a lot of their fans. while the arizona cardinals left with their "fans" cheering but came back to an empty airport lot, except for two loyal fans.

>>74198209
>implying the rams get 8+ wins this year
Funny

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>>74198316
>implying that carr doesn't get his pinkywinky hurt again
for a team that tries to act tough they sure had a QB who started crying like a bitch on national television

>>74198209
I don't see how this picture is relevant, you're posting a team that doesn't even exist anymore. They're now the LA Rams

>>74198373
so the LA raiders was a completely different team than the oakland raiders? the current raiders only have 2 owl wins?

are the browns the team to bandwagon if you like playing the victim?

>>74192298
Eli.

It's Brady's final boss fight.

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>>74198373
fixed.

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>>74198134
you rang?

>>74198427
if brady beats eli it completes a full circle... but if eli beats brady it just goes to show how big of a final boss eli is to brady, and likely will never defeat him in a super bowl

>>74195311
Imagine how much Brady or Rodgers would make if there was no salary cap.

>>74198417
Probably not for a whole lot longer. I suspect they'll be actually relevant again by 2020.

>>74198444
too inaccurate

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>tfw don't have aj mccarron as a backup qb

If Cowboys trade Romo they won't have a back up QB.

Who are they drafting late? I like that kid from Pitt.

>>74198547
they have mark sanchez, who has accomplished more in his career than Romo ever did.

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>>74198562

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Aquafina drip drip drip drip drip drip

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>>74198573
>two afc championship appearances
>one against tom brady in one of his better seasons
>romo is pic related

>>74198562
He's a FA along with Moore and could leave.

I got into jersey collecting about a year ago and now I think I have somewhere in the range of 40+ jerseys.

Why is this shit like fucking crack? I can't stop spending money on Mitchell & Ness sales.

>>74198672
>Trent Dilfer accomplished more than Dan Marino
>Rex Grossman accomplished more than Philip Rivers
i don't even like romo but cmon

>It's a /nfl/ conflates team success with individual success episode

>it's an anon gives a (You) without actually giving a (You) episode
Thanks for the (You) desu

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>>74196756

Eagles did in 2015

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>>74198769

>>74196128
my college fraternity had a lot of rugby players.
we destroyed the football fraternity (Div I-AA) in intramural tackle football by using rugby-style play.

>>74196122
I like it, except put Ramczyk at 12 to the Browns.

>>74198935
I hope the Browns use the first 3 picks in the draft all on defense.

>>74198935
personally i don't think ramczyk is worth it there because of his hip injury. it's not a very good class for offensive linemen in general, but the browns could take garret bolles if he falls or the guy from FSU. better to stock up on defense or fournette if he falls in the first

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>>74196691
Not going to happen this way at all, but its always nice to dream.

>>74199131
I wouldn't put too much stock against Ramczyk just because of the hip injury. He's one of the most well balanced O-linemen in the draft and wouldn't be expected to start right away due to the depth at RT (Pasztor will more than likely win that post regardless).

Taking a RB only makes sense if the line is solidified first. Crowell is coming off a highly productive season and Duke is a playmaker. After Garrett, of Ramczyk isn't the option, Safety or DB would be the way to go and I agree with you on Tabor there.

>>74199206
all valid points, but i can't imagine a scenario where a talent like fournette is available that late and the browns don't grab him. it might not be the most logical pick, but he has the chance to be a generational talent.

i agree with you on ramczyk, only o-lineman worth taking in the top 15. tabor is more of an immediate need though, and that would be snagging a top 2 cb in the draft at pick 12. not bad at all

>>74199206
>and wouldn't be expected to start right away due to the depth at RT
The Browns are not in a position to waste first round draft picks on depth players. They need day one starters, not players that will be good for them in two or three years.

>>74199272
Valid, that was a stupid remark. He would start anyway I guess, then again, this new regime seems to be doing everything different than in previous years.

>>74199523
I just don't think that the Browns need a new starting tackle. The line was *mostly* fine, it's just when both starting guards end up on the IR, you're going to have a bad time. There are bigger areas of need for the Browns.
I say grab Garrett at 1, and a CB at 12.

>>74199261
is fournette's ankle really fucked up or is it just draft memes

>>74199261
Agreed. Especially since there is no clear #2 corner (or #1 with Haden being the oldest 26 year old on the planet with his brittle bones and fragile soft brain tissue rattling around in his skull). Probably wouldn't be a stretch to go Garrett, Tabor, then another corner or Safety at pick 33. However, that's not how building an MLB roster for future success works. You don't just "fill the gap" with big name FAs and maybe one big time draft pick. The approach is more taking into account that while one guy in a position of need can turn you around, injuries happen, then you're back at square one, so drafting young talent and signing a specific type of UDFA will be the approach for the next couple years. Basically trying to create a roster of a few good veteran players, and a slew of rookies and players under 26 years old.

>>74191915

This. Yes it was a choke but there is never shame losing to Brady.

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>>74199636
Greco is pretty much done. Drango's fat ass played better than Greco has in two years. Bitonio says he's 100%, we'll see. As I said before, Pasztor will be the penciled in starter at RT with Cancer Coleman, drunk Alvin Bailey, and...hhhh....Cameron "I don't have a fuck all clue of what I'm doing on this field" "Bust" Erving. Thank god Joe Thomas is still there.

>>74191985

He was born in 1865 and died in 1936. Most people were pretty racist at that time.

>>74199636
Forgot to mention, they went through 4 different guys at Center last year. That's definitely a must draft pick.

>>74199721
Coleman was obviously not ready last year to play, but maybe with experience, he'll grow into the role. Cam Erving is so frustrating, he's so goddamn retarded.
>>74199742
Cam was grading better at center pretty much every game, but he can't read a defense to save his life. I remember one game where McCown had to do it for him, and then they ran out of time on the play clock. Who played after Cam went down? I vaguely remember him doing alright?
I think they're holding onto Cam in case Thomas retires. Cam should always been at left tackle.

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>Tannehill looking impressive last season, stuck the goldmine with Ajayi, young wide receiver core with Stills, Parker and Landry.
>Bills will be shit and beyond repair for at least another decade.
>Brady has 2 more years left on his clock
>JESTS will always be the JESTS

Who /dynastyinthemaking/ here?

>>74199817
Austin Reitter, Pasztor took some snaps, Greco.

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>>74199846
>>Brady has 2 more years left on his clock
It's always two more years, every year like clockwork.

>>74199764
>Kingdome
WE

>>74199851
And they all looked better than Cam did, if I'm remembering correctly.

>>74199764
>The NFL actually once thought getting rid of the crowd factor was a good idea

>>74199647
memes. he sat out of his bowl game mainly because his coach told him it was best for his future, and he should be running at the combine. malik hooker isn't and his draft stock is unaffected, so i still expect fournette to go in the top 10.

>>74199846
didn't Garapollo smoke you guys before getting injured

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As a Vikings fan I cant talk shit on the redskins. they have owls. we dont. also London Fletcher is still one of my favorite players ever. but goddamn.....

WAS: 'Good chance' Cousins gets more than Luck

I mean just thinking from RG3 new era. They have been pretty solidly fucked on the QB front. I mean I like Cousins but this is exactly what I feared when Vikings fans signed Teddy and they would have given him a contract like that despite knowing deep down he isn't worth the money.
Kirk is really just siphoning as much cash as he can from the Redskins before he gets exposed and is making the team worse overall.

>mfw the vikings give teddy a big contract anyways just because he MIGHT come back

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>>74199846
IT BEGINS

>>74195311
>Kirk "it would be selfish of me to not take every penny I can get" Cousins.

Who can blame him though if the Redskins are going to be so stupid. If they're stupid enough to do that, they're too stupid to build a team around you if you take a hometown discount.

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>>74199846
Here familia.

>>74199846
jets have a winning record against the dolphins all time

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>>74200503

>>74200390
well it is kinda cool to see him stick it to the Redskins like this.
It's like an making an Ex GF crawl on her knees and agree to ridiculous demands after she thought she could do better without you. now throw 20 million a year on top of that.

kirk must be feeling pretty good right now.
>just give me Deseans money and his locker

>>74200560
It is hard to argue with this, lol.

>>74200571
the redskins haven't done anything at all with cousins.

>>74200560

>texans the most open windowed team besides NE

get out

>>74200582
when was the last time the redskins had consecutive winning seasons?

>>74200622
1996-1997

doesn't change the fact that the redskins averaged 8.5 wins the last two seasons and want to pay a QB Luck money when their defense is putrid. retaining cousins would obviously be best but i don't think he's good enough to bet that much money on, and if the price hikes that much i would let him go to the 49ers or something.

>>74200667
yeah I would be worried too with the redskins losing firepower and their OC, still I think that organization needs stability badly and the cap is going up a lot this year.

>>74191959
>forgetting about the Butler INT
Never.

>>74196670
No. I didn't earn that, my favorite team did.

If I was a player I would possibly wear a replica and keep the original safe.

>>74199892
There's one thing to be said about fans being passionate and particularly loud, there's another to be said about faggots like us12s building a meme stadium with material specifically designed to create more noise than a bunch of liberal plastic faggots with no real interest in sports should be capable of making

>>74200688
i think there's a price range for cousins that i would absolutely bring him back for, and the departures of garçon and maybe djax would free up space.
still, the redskins have maybe 3 above average defensive players and if they want to make a run at any defensive FA giving cousins 20 million really handicaps them. cousins will also be 29 next year, so they have to think long and hard about whether this is the person they want to be in charge of their future.

>>74200763
29 is not that old in quarterback years

they do need more help on defense, absolutely agree, but I'd rather have Cousins overpriced than go back to qb hell

regardless the key is their next few drafts.

>>74200763
police. you know he wanted a deal last year. or before last year rather.
but instead they franchised him at twice what he was worth in a PROVE IT! contract.

they did it so they could say they arent tanking a season and gear up for a new QB
but then
>he proved it and now they are stuck with QB hungry teams willing to pay him and the redskins get snaked a competent QB while the redskins finish last in the NFC

really hope the niners take him and he gets his money and the redskins get fucked

>>74200870
cousins won that bet, i'm not denying that he deserves to get paid or that a team will pay him. i just don't think it is in the best interest of the redskins to be the one to sign him to a record contract. if cousins is feeling resentful of the franchise tag and wants them to break the bank, i really don't think they should cave. he's definitely in the top half of QBs in the league but he hasn't proven to me that he's good enough to bet that much on. i know luck will be the comparison, but not only is cousins not quite as good as luck, that contract is still massively fucking over the colts. if they bite the bullet and go for cousins, they could quickly find themselves being ousted by younger teams just like the colts are. i'm not saying that their best outcome involves cousins leaving, but it would be unwise to view him as a must-sign player

why is that one rams fan getting so uppity, the rasm can't even beat the 9ers

>>74201090
He shitposts in hopes that /sp/ forgets they set a record for losing

>>74201090
https://sportslistoftheday.com/2014/12/16/the-worst-teams-in-nfl-history-most-all-time-losses-and-most-losses-per-season/

Cards fan detected

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>>74197666
>qb across the the line of scrimmage
>wr already down before lateral

God is packers fan, satan is a viqueens fan

>>74201199
Sea hawks fan detected

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what the fuck am i supposed to watch on Sundays now?

>>74201250
He was very clearly not down before the lateral.

>>74197704
lifelong razorcake fan here, honestly not as bad as this year, but still really bad.
tyrod is vastly overrated, can't throw over the middle and is a happy feet. He doesn't set receivers up well they just rely on his meme scrambles.
Cardale is shit, I think they should take a shot at glennon, why the fuck not, develop something for the next 2 years while you stem the tide and make a competitive team.
people forget this team hasnt been to the playoffs since 1999.

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>>74191985
>>74195805
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Blacks can't play quarterback
And I'm better than you!

- TB12

>>74201317
Maybe you guys can trade for Romo.

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Who is the Brian Sipe of today's NFL?

>>74199721
I will probably off myself if Cam Erving isn't replaced at center this season or next.

>>74201508
You can have Jeremy Zuttah for a mid round pick

He made the Pro Bowl so you know he's good

>>74201478
Cam Newton?

one mvp season but kinda a meh career out of that

>>74198077
I find it funny butler didn't even buckle his helmet

Why is this a thing at all? I see many players, mostly black players just don't bucket it.

THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PLAYS OF THE SUPERBOWL AND YOU WANT TO RISK YOUR HELMET JIGGLING AROUNDOR OFF TO LOOK COOL?

What's the worst trade ever done in NFL history?

the bengals will win a playoff game next season

cap it

>>74201572

Herschel Walker trade

although the jared goff trade is looking mighty nice for the titans

>>74201478
Sam Bradford

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>300

>>74201527
Gib Mosely for a 2nd pick

>Mitch Trubisky

More like Trubustky haha amirite guys

Guys

>>74191532
>NFL: Area scout stands up for Oklahoma RB Mixon

sometimes I just think "oh thats why the kkk were a thing. maybe they weren't so bad after all."

>>74201711
You know, why did Oakland have to play their playoff game in Houston if Oakland had a better record? I know it was WC but still 12-4 @ 9-7? Why?

>>74201767
Winning your division gets you a home game in the wild card round.
A team could win their division at 0-10-6 and host a 12-4 team in the playoffs.

>>74201786
Oh, thanks
>A team could win their division at 0-10-6 and host a 12-4 team in the playoffs.

Lolwut, really?

>>74201803
It requires every team in the division to lose their ten non-division games, and for every division game to tie. It's never going to happen, but it theoretically could.

>>74201826
If you move CLE, LAR, SF, and JAX into a division it could

Who is the active NFL coach to have the most wins and not appear in the Super Bowl?

>>74201988
marvin lewis?

>>74202037
Good job.

>>74201581
If Goff busts that's going to be an all-time bad trade.

At least Herschel Walker was a proven elite player.