/nfl/ general - OFFSEASON MOVES ed.

Eagles

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>CHI: Report: Jets 'won't be suitors' for Cutler

nice

>tfw there are so few options I've talked myself into wanting the jets to sign Mike Glennon

Sam Shields can still play.

Packers are dumb to release him just because he had a concussion in the beginning of the season.

>>74148605
he can still play, but wasnt worth the salary he was getting

>>74148566
Is Zeitler any good?

>>74148599
make a paypall account so it can be easier on me to give you your 2nd place prize money from the FF league please

>>74148599
What about McCown? He seems reliable.

>>74148599
Don't have to trade for Glennon? What are the Bucs looking for?

>>74148641
hes 38 and made of glass and was never good to begin with, i hope you're being sarcastic

>>74148629
okay

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Finish the old thread first you fucking whores.

>>74148605
>>74148610

You guys are wrong. He got a concussion and even during the NFCCG he said he was getting headaches and other concussion symptoms.

Dude is on the verge of going postal.

>>74148649
hes a FA in march

>>74148652
I don't know, he had great games with the Browns. I know he didn't win anything important, but then again, it's the Browns.

Dude has a good arm and made good use of Barnidge , I'm sure players like Marshall, Smith and Decker would welcome him.

I would easily put him over Glennon when healthy.

>>74148613
Top 10 guard in the league

>>74148605
It's like his 4th serious concussion. He had a high cap hit and his brain is mush at this point

Help me pick a team to follow for the next season. It needs to be fairly bad team but not too bad so that I won't be called glory hunter or bandwagoner but still have hopes for the future. I was thinking about bears but is it a bit too much?

>>74148716
Chargers.

>>74148716
The Lions are the best "bad" team.

>>74148716
why not just go with a really good team?

>>74148716
Eagles

>>74148660
He's fine.

ITT you post highlights that you like

https://youtu.be/5Gb4xnBWT0w
https://youtu.be/1sTi4Ukb5S8

>>74148716
Fairly bad, but will give you hopes:
Chargers
Bucs
Cardinals
Lions
Vikings

Not their best moment, but will probably win a championship in the future due to good ownership/FO:
Ravens
Giants

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>Your Team
>There 3 biggest Draft Needs
>You're 1st round draft choice
>Their 2017-2018 Record

Cowboys
Pass Rush, Secondary, and WR
DEs Takkarist McKinley or Charles Harris
12-4

Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year with the #1 offense, 12th ranked defense and a 12-4 record with a 6 win streak to end the season. Dak will finish 2nd in MVP voting behind Brady and Zeke will win OPOTY with 1800 rushing yards.

They will beat the Packers in the divisional round. Seahawks in the NFCCG, and the Patriots in the Super Bowl 23-38.

>>74148629
what email do you use

>>74148815
Pats
Pass rush, RB, TE if Bennett bolts
I don't watch college football
13-3

>>74148815
Ravens
Guard/Center, Safety, Pass Rush
Derek Barnett, Cam Robinson if Ricky Wagner leaves
10-6 at best, 8-8 worst

>>74148652
>made of glass
That doesn't mean he isn't reliable
The man played with a broken collarbone for 4 week

>>74148819
>Patriots in the Super Bowl 23-38.
>Beating the Pats in the superbowl

Don't be so delusional, Eli is gonna tap that ass again you guys are gonna be watching it, again.

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>>74148815
Pats
DE,TE,LB
Solomon Thomas if beli trades up or garopolo pick
13-3

>>74148974
are they all screaming JAAAAAAAAAAAMES WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE?

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Tom Brady

>>74149096
is gay lmfao

>it's been three days since the Pats won a superb owl

How are you coping pats bros? Will we ever see them win another ring?

>>74149193
this joke has got really old, its not funny when 10,000 people do it

Why are these generals so dead now?

Did all the tripfags and butthurt shitposters finally fuck off for good?

>>74149202
BECAUSE THE SEASON IS DEAD

>>74149201

You realize if they garner replies they'll just keep using it right, it's fucking bait

>>74149202
Discord

Decline of /sp/ in general

offseason

Comeback for free agency and the Draft, but it's going to be fuck all dead outside of that

>>74149202
its the offseason its expected it will pick up around combine and draft time

>>74149202

The season ended dude, what the fuck

I know you're new to /sp/ and all but use some common sense

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>>74149193
I don't want these feels

>>74149202
Free agency is right around the corner, hold onto your buts.

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>>74149193
What the fuck am I going to do without sitting in my favorite parade spot?

>other cities don't have citizens with favorite parade spots

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>>74149202

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>>74149202

>6 months of divegrass and fatswing threads

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Tom brady got jokes.

Either that or his social media guy needs a raise.

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>>74148815
>Steelers
>pass rush/cb/te
>McKinley or one of those SEC corners. Wouldn't hate a QB here.
>12-4

Does someone know a good youtube video for Europeans on the salary cap and player ownership in the NFL

Because it seems so confusing that the Patriots won't want to retain most of their team to next year

>>74149428
I want to believe that Brady is actually just that funny. He seems like a charming enough guy when he's mic'd up.

>>74149436
>Because it seems so confusing that the Patriots won't want to retain most of their team to next year
They will want to. They just won't be able to because some of their free agents will end up getting overpaid by other teams.

Reminder the falcons will win the superbowl next season with a 15-1 record.

It starts on the first game of the new season, beating the patriots at foxborough 42-24. They lose only to seattle away.

Play offs first game vs NYG. Eli gets btfo and Beckham chokes.

Next it's the green bay packers. Insert 2016 NFC title game.

Broncos in the superbowl with new QB Tony Romo. Close game with Ryan throwing for over 300 and 2TD's.

>>74149453
Why would you want to leave the Patriots tho? They're like United of the 90s-00s

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>the Carson "plan" was beaten by the Rams
>Chargers took the other LA spot
>Las Vegas basically fell through
>no other city is even in consideration at the moment

>tfw the Raiders won the relocationb owl

>>74149465
American football is dangerous. An average career lasts like 3-4years and contracts aren't guaranteed so you can suddenly blow out your knee and end up jobless. They just want to maximise their earnings while they can, especially since they already have their Super Bowl rings.

>>74148716
Go for the true alphas, the Tennessee Titans
>excellent, young quarterback Marcus Mariota
>amazing run threat with Murray/Henry
>drafting the top wide receiver in the nation, which will give Walker assistance in the receiving game
>a defense which is only getting stronger

>>74149482
It those small extra millions worth being humiliated as a Brown week in week out tho? How could they not want to win more rings?

>>74148716
The Bears have a promising young player in Jordan Howard. If they can build a line for him and get a serviceable QB, they could be semi-competitive by 2018.

>>74149495
A lot of them don't get paid that much, especially on rookie deals. The extra millions are only small for the biggest stars, there are over 50 guys on the roster and for a lot of them those extra millions mean a few more years of comfortable life after NFL. And there is no better time to get overpaid than right after winning the Super Bowl.

In 20 years, no one will remember whether Jabal Sheard or Brandon Bolden won just 1 or 2 rings with the Pats.

>>74149480
i think everyone else won. the raiders should stay in that containment city/state

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>>74149455
Reminder the Falcons couldn't even beat the Gronkless Patriots when they were up 28-3 in the third quarter of the Super Bowl.

Prepare to fade back into irrelevance like the Panthers for another year.

back-to-back nfc south teams in the superbowl. so which is next, saints or bucs?

>>74149578
Bucs need to get in the playoffs first -- which they seem to have a decent shot at.

>>74149578
It'll be an NFC East team. This is the same shit that happened in 2001.
>NFC West (Rams) vs Patriots
>NFC South (Buccaneers) vs AFC West
>NFC South (Panthers) vs Patriots
>NFC East (Eagles) vs Patriots

>NFC West (Seahawks) vs Patriots
>NFC South (Panthers) vs AFC West
>NFC South (Falcons) vs Patriots
>???

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>>74149480
The Raiders belong in Oakland, honestly. The Warriors and the A's are getting too gentrified and full of lame white people. The Raiders and their fans are still dangerous like Oakland used to be. They keep the old flame burning.

>>74149628

>Cowboys/Patriots
>Battle for 6th ring
>Steelers fans kill themselves two weeks before the SB even happens now that their only claim to fame is gone

Yes please

>>74149662
lets see if they can win a playoff game first

Reminder Jaylon Smith is coming back next year and is going to FUCK the NFL right in the ASS

>Colts release ILB D'Qwell Jackson

>>74149792
I'm gonna fuck you right in the ass

>>74148716
The Jaguars. Possibly the worst in their division but they are young and I'm rooting that they be a real contender in years to come.

Iirc didn't the pats sign Dillon in the off season of their second bowl win? Went on to win the next. If we are drawing symmetry between these two patriots eras, what are the chances we see Peterson in a pats uniform next year?

>>74149842
every offseason jags are hyped up as the young upcoming team

>>74149870
Zero. If he leaves Minnesota, he's going to be looking for a payday.

>>74149900
He should have already banked 100 million dollars. The allure of a championship.. The pats need a between the tackles RB. Give him 1 yr / $10

>>74149943
>1 yr / $10
Jay Cutlel's new contract

The Hamilton Spectator reports free agent Johnny Manziel worked out for the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders in January.

>>74149943
>Give him 1 yr / $10
I hope you mean ten dollars because there's no way Belichick pays a running back $10m

>this thread

The super bowl just ended retards. Enjoy speculation and nothingness for 5+ months.

>>74150019
$10?!
What in the world would he want $5 for?
Who does he think he is, asking for $2.50?

>>74149943
>10 million dollars

Rutgersproday.jpg

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wew

What should New England do about hightower? It sounds like he plans to leave town if they don't pay him big money.

>>74150237
They'll pay him, they traded jones and Collins to have money for his deal.

They're more likely to let bennett walk like revis

>>74150237
They should pay him. I thought I heard on the radio the pats are like 60$ mil under the cap.

>>74150237
they'll franchise him if they have to

>>74150237
He wants to stay and Patriots want to keep him. I'd be surprised if he plays for another team next season.

>>74150183
Don't they usually greet them at the airport?

>>74149820

He hasn't been the same since Freeman left anyway. Need another anyway.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIZnP1mpQKc

>this guy put up this video during the half time show
>this damage control in the comments

>>74150183
good ppl. you shouldnt put losers on pedestals

>>74149943
>10 million for an old over the hill child beater

>>74150304

62 mill according to spotrac
leader is cleveland with 105 mill under the 168 mill cap

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>>74150365

>>74149444
I think he has a family friend help him run his social media.

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heheheeheheehehe

seventy years

hahaahahaahahaaha

>Iggles
>Use the home field advantage of the NFL Draft to finally pick a player/players who are not hot garbage
>Finally become elite
>Get to the Super Bowl and win

It's too bad this only has like a 10% chance of working.

daily reminder that the chargers are such garbage that they solely kept the browns from going 0-16

>>74150495
>Fitzgerald will never win the Super Bowl
>Michael Floyd has a ring because he passed out drunk behind the wheel and got cut
one of the best storylines of the play offs

>>74150531
>Be the team to give the Browns a win
>Move to LA

This shit just writes itself.

So the Vikings are literally the only team that qualifies for the potential 2015 Panthers/2016 Falcons

Can they do it?

>cut Starks
>let Shields and Peppers go
>have like $30 million free in cap space

Surely the Packers will sign a free agent this year...

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>>74149870
>>74149900
>>74149943
The player you were looking for was Jamall Charles, dumbshits. He will sign a 2 year, $5 million contract and dominate on the Pats for a couple years while Brady leaves like he came in, 3 ships in 4 years.

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>>74150626
You're home, jemell

>>74150596
with who? the unstoppable juggernaut that is sam bradford?

>>74150621

funny

>>74150294
>They're more likely to let bennett walk like revis

pls no

I like him

>>74150621
They'll sign Pacman Jones

>>74150626
>>74150632
I could actually see this

>>74150651
>taking a sack in field goal range
>League MVP

>>74149943
$10mil for a fumbler who can't pass block? Are you nutty, mate?

What's next for the Patriots?

Is it time to go all out on offensive signings and let Brady stadpad like crazy for his two last seasons before he retires with more rings and more records than anyone else?

>>74149842
this

Dez caught, fumbled and recovered
Everyone agrees with this right?

>>74150663
He reportedly turned down $7m a year pre season and there's no way he's getting more than Gronk. The way he's been talking since the Super Bowl feels like he enjoyed it in New England but the job is done and he wants to get paid one last time.

>>74150692
>What's next for the Patriots?
Same shit as always. Sign underpriced players, let go of overpriced ones. Belichick will never base his recruitment strategy on letting Tom break some meaningless regular season records.

>>74150714
Clearly an incomplete pass by the rules of the game

Maybe secure the ball before trying your baboon jump next time?

>>74150714
I agree that it wasn't a catch, yes.

>>74150751
3 steps with two hands on the ball is not a catch where?

>>74148815

Panthurs

OT, DE, DB (vague but I dont see Gettleman picking a bunch of corners again, maybe a safety)

If we take a RB at 8 I'll be shocked, bunch of idiots having us take Fournette...wouldnt be shocked if the madman just took another DT for no reason.

>>74150714
>>74150801

if you're really talking about the no-catch vs. packers like 5 years go, the steps were part of his landing process from the jump.

It was one movement from jumping to grab it and falling on the ground, and the ball hit the ground and bobbled when he fell.

No es un catcho as the spanish in spain say.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/09/report-cfl-team-works-out-johnny-manziel/

the cycle is nearly complete

>>74150801
In football

>Field Yates@FieldYates
>The Seahawks have signed former Vikings K Blair Walsh, per league source.

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>>74151024

>>74151024
It's just to pay him for missing that kick, right?

>>74151024
>>74151047
this

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>49ers have hired former Lions GM Martin Mayhew as a senior personnel executive.

>>74149696
You don't have to go back very far to see them win one. Are you new to this sport?

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>Who is getting him?
>What will they be giving up?
>How well will he do there?

I think I could get into American Football, if only they aired it somewhere on dutch tv

>>74151106
Denver
Von Miller and a 1st
Flop while the Cowboys win the Owl

>>74151082
>hey uh, you know how you hired that fox commentator to run your team? well boy do i got some stories for you

>>74151106
I would say Browns but they're too incompetent to sign him. I think he stays with the Cowboys because that fuck Jerry Jones considers him a son.

>Seahawks have signed former Vikings K Blair Walsh, per @FieldYates. Steve Hauschka is a free agent.

LMAO
WHY

>>74151106
I wish he'd join the Texans >we could use a good QB

>>74151106
It's going to take a huge trade for the Cowboys to part ways with him.

what happened to Hauschka ?

>>74151173
he can't into extra points since the rule change.

>>74151173
He's a free agent and it looks like Seattle doesn't want to or feels like they won't be able to resign him

>>74151173
PEDS have fried his leg

>>74148815
Browns
QB (if no FA's gotten), C, DB
Myles Garrett
8-8 with smart free agents

>seacucks

>>74151178
Walsh attempted half the amount of Hauschka's XPs and missed almost as much as he did, that can't be the reason. He was in general really shit last season too which is why he was cut

>>74148599
Watson

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>Walsh is now a Seahawk

>>74149842
How does it feel saying the exact same thing every single off season and literally never have it work out?

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i'm snowed in for good now /nfl/, here's a mock draft

1. Myles Garrett, DE, Browns
2. Mitch Trubisky, QB, 49ers
3. Deshaun Watson, QB, Bears
4. Malik Hooker, S, Jaguars
5. Mike Williams, WR, Titans
6. Jonathan Allen, DE, Jets
7. Jamal Adams, S, Chargers
8. Leonard Fournette, RB,
9. Reuben Foster, LB, Bengals
10. Corey Davis, WR, Bills
11. Solomon Thomas, DE, Saints
12. Marshon Lattimore, CB, Browns
13. Deshone Kizer, QB, Cardinals
14. Teez Tabor, CB, Eagles
15. Ryan Ramcyzk, OT, Colts
16. Derek Barnett, DE, Ravens
17. Dalvin Cook, RB, Redskins
18. Marlon Humphrey, CB, Titans
19. John Ross, WR, Buccaneers
20. Garett Bolles, OT, Broncos
21. Malik McDowell, DT, Lions
22. Zach Cunningham, ILB, Dolphins
23. OJ Howard, TE, Giants
24. Quincy Wilson, CB, Raiders
25. Cam Robinson, OT, Texans
26. Forrest Lamp, OG, Seahawks
27. Jabril Peppers, DB/LB, Chiefs
28. Takkarist McKinley, OLB, Cowboys
29. Sidney Jones, CB, Packers
30. Taco Charlton, DE, Steelers
31. Caleb Brantley, DT, Falcons
32. Tim Williams, OLB, Patriots

>>74148901
Dude, Bennett is looking to get PAID. The only way he plays in Foxboro next year is if he signs with a team that has an away game against the Pats.

>>74151407
I think so too. But there's always an off chance they can work out a deal.

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>>74151148
As much as I want this to happen, I can see him getting hurt right before, or right after the season starts, leaving Bork to step in and ruin everything again.

>>74151467
Bork has QB killing powers like Fitzpatrick, that would definitely happen.

>>74151394
>Jonathan Allen

literally why

>>74151499
I think it has more to do with Romo being made of glass and the Texans O-line being made of swiss cheese (more or less). But, yeah, the bad juju doesn't help either.

>>74151502
>why would the Jets take Leonard Williams at #6 overall when they have wilkerson and richardson?

personally i don't think richardson is long for the team, and wilkerson has been inconsistent. allen is BPA if he slides that far down, but they could also take jamal adams.

>>74151502
When you're in rebuild mode you should just go for BPA. And I think Jets are in rebuild mode.

>>74151502
the DEs the jest currently have dont even want to show up for work

>>74151563
hes not even the BPA though

>>74151554
Leonard williams was the most talented player of that draft
>wilkerson has been inconsistent
he had one down year coming off a leg injury

>>74151394
who is pick #8?

also one of those qb teams is gonna take a shot for romo and not draft a qb that high

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>The Broncos' New Special Teams Coach Seems Cool

>Brock Olivo

>http://deadspin.com/the-broncos-new-special-teams-coach-seems-cool-1792189587

This guy gives off cool middle school teacher vibes.

>>74151407
>>74151420
He seemed happy to finally be in a place of professionalism and decent management compared to th fucking cowboys and Bears.

But I think the fact that Brady is close with Trump and that he is allegedly only out for th money makes it more likely than not that he leaves.

Shame. I like him and think he and Gronk could've been great together.

>>74151579
allen is literally considered the second best defensive player in the draft, he is sure as shit the BPA. who do you think it is there, some QB?
>>74151582
panthers

yeah it's all hypothetical so i have to work off current circumstances. once romo gets moved things will look different

>>74151579
>hes not even the BPA though
Not arguing that, I don't watch college football. I thought you said they shouldn't draft him because they have a good D-line already

>>74151571
true or not Leonard and Mo arent going anywhere and we already have nowhere to put sheldon richardson.

>>74151595
at 6 you can get real value at a few different positions, hes a good talent but hes not the BPA at 6.

>>74151593
if we're going strictly BPA, it's Fournette.

>>74151593
I dunno if the Panther would pick up a RB that early. bet theyd try and fix their secondary or Oline. Tabor or Ramcyzk are my bet. Hooker or Adams if they drop.

oh good. it's the time of the year to talk definitively about kids we've seen play 4 times.

>>74151608
bilal powell averaged 5.5 ypc last year, so i didn't feel the need.

and are you sure you watch college football? allen is rated higher than fournette by the vast majority of analysts and his skills are more likely to translate. i adore fournette, but he's had injury issues in the past, and running back is imo the easiest position to bust at. do the jets even have a good offensive line outside of mangold?

whether you like it or not allen would be considered BPA there.

>>74151628
ramczyk is not worth a top 10 pick.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/chris-long-join-teammates-stand-trump-article-1.2968224
Really makes me think

>>74150036
is he negotiating with Jewlian Edelman?

>>74148716
go with the Bucs or the Colts, both Luck and WInston are going to be elite QB's.

>>74151640
I agree which is why I think theyd go secondary over OL but it wouldnt surprise me if they picked up Ramcyzk or Robinson that early regardless

Who is gonna sign AJ Bouye?

>>74151692
now that you mention it robinson would be a pretty good fit for their offense, he's a monster in the run game. if it's between the two i really think the allure of fournette wins out though.

corners can be a little scary to draft that early, but if adams or hooker were to fall, they'd go there. i'm not sure if they do though, most top-heavy safety class in a long time

>>74148716
Falcons

>>74151660
Fake news. Hightower isn't protesting anything, he didn't go to the White House in 2015 either.

>>74151640
so we'd draft Allen because BPA but wouldn't draft Fournette because our soon to be 29 Year Old Running Back who's never handled a full year's workload had a career year?

We were playing Sheldon at OLB because we had nowhere else to put him this year. Neither Sheldon or Wilkerson are going to be easy to move this season.

I think Lattimore or Adams or legit better players and bigger needs, and Foster is at least comparable.

Allen doesn't have the quickness to be an elite pass rusher at his positon on the next level.

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>>74151024
>mfw he inevitably kicks the game winner between Minnesota - Seattle in the NFC Championship next season

>>74151660
I know it a principle thing, but Trump isn't doing anything to hurt black people. Now if you're brown you're a bit worse off.

Why do the refs not call blatant offensive holding for an entire series, then chose to do so later at a critical moment? Does the NFL instruct them to do so? Same thing with defensive holding.

>>74151779
The Game moves faster than you think and the refs miss calls that look easy from where you're watching on replay on tv.

>>74151628
there's no secondary or lineman worth the #8 pick, and I really doubt Gettleman trades it away. He almost always follows BPA and I'm pretty confident #8 will either be Fournette or Cook

Fournette is heir-apparent to Johnathan Stewart and >our current run game, and even though Cook is equally talented the offense would need to make adjustments to utilize him in full

>>74151589
Norway, did you just use Brady's friendship with Trump as even a fraction of a percent as to why Marty walks? I assure that has absolutely no bearing on the situation in the slightest...the money, yes, lack of a personal safespace, no.

>>74151742
why wouldn't richardson be easy to move this offseason/season? he's one of the most talented defensive players available in any way. moreover, the jets almost have to be feeling the need to move one of them since their contracts push them wayy over the cap. wilkerson has a larger contract and is older, so richardson is much more attractive to teams.

allen can play anywhere on the defensive line, if you're thinking of him as a pure pass rusher you're completely disregarding what makes him so good. he's nearly immovable in run D, and he really can get to the QB, whether with technique, power, or quickness. there are many people who think he's actually a better prospect than myles garrett. if you really don't think allen is worth the #6 overall pick, i'm not sure you realize how good of a player he has the potential to be. the jets don't need to fill needs right now, they're rebuilding. and they certainly don't need to risk picking the wrong corner in round 1 when the draft is filled with potential starters.

>>74149202
The patriots winning again. And tom Brady being hailed as the goat by normies and sports media 24/7 has pretty much ruined football for everyone. Thanks new England.

>>74151830
I'm keeping it as an option because this election has been extremely divisive and the split appears to be on racial lines.

Marty is a passionate outspoken guy. I don't know how strongly he feels about stuff but he keeps voicing his opinions about it so I guess it matters.

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>>74151847
Any time, friend.

>>74151779
Holding is constantly occurring. Refs are instructed to flag it when it's blatant or occured on a pivotal play where the defender has a chance to make impact.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

http://torotimes.com/2017/02/09/pff-analyst-picks-texans-win-super-bowl-lii/

>>74150183
>being a Falcons fan after that game

One and only time I'd be okay with someone switching teams

>>74149202
The generals were dead up to the SB too. NFL is not as popular as it used to be on /sp/.

>>74151852
Let me put it another way. All things being equal in a hypothetical situation where the Pats could/would match the highest offer Marty would get, I would literally bet my house that he'd have zero issue resigning with the Pats.

The only thing he cares about is getting the maximum contract. He is a very passionate guy as you mentioned and I am not suggesting he isn't both morally and ethically staunch but business is business and as far as I can tell him and Brady get along just fine on the field.

>>74151818
>no secondary worth the #8 pick

Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker are pretty based.

Marlon Humphrey is also very good

>>74151914
>The only thing he cares about is getting the maximum contract
We have no idea that's true.

>>74151923
rly don't think hooker and adams will fall to the panthers. plenty of teams ahead of them have huge secondary needs.

humphrey is big and physical, but he does the saban thing that i hate and he also benefitted from the best defensive line and linebacker corps in college. he's good, but not #8 good. tabor or lattimore are better

>>74149421

Don't forget icefight and apehoop threads.

>>74151831
Richardson's trade value has plummeted for being a dumbass off the field

doesn't make sense to trade low and his contract isn't that much.

Run defense isn't the problem, and Leonard Williams can already play anywhere on the line and the emergence of Deon Simon has really helped. Team only gave up 3.7 YPC and it's been that way for a long time.

Yes I know the jets are rebuilding but that doesn't mean they need to have 5 quality defensive line starters on a 3-4 defense when Richardson was forced to play OLB just to get on the field.

Allen is a great talent but he wasn't as praised as Williams was. Drafting a QB would be reach but this draft has Quality defensive backs worthy of top 10 selections as well as Fournette.

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>>74151881
Falcons till I die. I'll probably even choke to death just to show love for the team one last time.

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>tfw 360 days until the Seahawks win Super Bowl LII

>>74151969
We're keeping this a serious thread, mate

>>74151831
>>74151942
also if Mangold can stay healthy the only liability on the offensive line is Left Tackle. Brandon Shell was fantastic.

>>74151930
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmDbZR_EjZI

go ahead and skip to about 7:15 or so and watch for about 30 seconds and see if you feel the same

When did you thought the Patriots were done? And when did you start thinking they might actually pull the comeback off?

I thought they were completely gone after that godawful attempt at a trick play with a horizontal pass, seemed like they had lost the plot. Then I started believing after the Matt Ryan fumble.

>>74151969
>implying LII won't be top-meme Lions vs Jags
we /catfight/ now

>>74151994
We've all seen it. It's a throw away remark made while joking around.

Pats offer him 7 mill a year
Browns offer him 7.5 mill a year
You think he's going to the Browns?

>>74151942
fair enough, i was drafting based on the assumption that one of them is going to be moved, since the jets are like 7 million over the cap.

now that i see it ryan clady is probably going to be cut to save 10 million though, right? didn't realize that contract was so terrible.
>>74152014
there are teams that can afford to pay him a lot more than the pats, though i doubt the browns would be one of them in this case.

>Raiders possibly cutting DT "Big" Dan Williams

Tough break, there's always NYJ OR CLE

>>74151998
I thought at 28-3 that it should be done, but there was still a lot of time on the clock. Atlanta's defense was the 27th pass defense too. I kept thinking Brady would light them up and make it close in the fourth. Like in this game where Brady came back down 21 in the fourth, nearly tied it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxPqxXQDV1g

Once the strip sack happened, I knew the Falcons were going to lose.

>>74152026
Of course. The point was that
>The only thing he cares about is getting the maximum contract
is not necessarily true. I doubt even Marty knows what he'll do.

>>74151998
Somewhere in the third quarter I started thinking about how this probably ends in an L.

Then from th first touchdown to th final play in OT I just sat there too scared to move because I couldn't believe what was happening.

You don't? I'm not saying he's a bad dude for it, but he runs his business and he's made it clear both by turning down the Pats initial offer, not that he shouldn't have, and his "throw away" comment which he actually mentioned not just getting paid but in fact looking forward to being overpaid for what he valued his own worth. Which gets to back to my original point, he would absolutely have no issue resigning with Pats if they could and would offer the most money.

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If you were a quarterback what would your cadence be? Mine would be pink 69.

>>74152127
All I'm saying is there's a huge difference between getting "overpaid" and "only caring about getting the maximum contract".

If he's only interested in the highest bid then more power to him, he's earned it, but there's nothing yet to suggest that's the case.

My guess is if the Pats, or another really good team, make a competitive offer, he'll remember the shitty time he had in Chicago with Jay Cutler, and he'll remember winning lots of games with Tom Brady.

>>74152198
3DPD

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>Seahawks sign ex-Vikings kicker Blair Walsh

Logan Ryan is the one that's gonna get BIG money

Hidey hidey hidey hi
Hodey hodey hodey ho

Is there any competition against the Pats in the AFC?

>>74152280
not until the bb-brady power duo goes away forever

>>74152280
Broncos and Ravens always step up.

>>74152198
Goat 12

>>74152280
Healthy Carr-led raiders
Competent QB-led Broncos
Jets/Dolphins good for 1 game at home

>>74152300
>Healthy Carr-led raiders
>defense got embarrassed by brock osweiler

keep dreaming kid

>>74152300
if all it takes for the raidurrs to collapse is for carr to hurt his pinky they're fucked

>>74152309
See the 2014 Raiders-Pats game, it was respectably close, and Oakland was a 3 win team, I imagine with the current teams it'd be close but the >past could break away with their D

>>74152331
the 2014 patriots were godawful at the beginning of the season, that was when they got stomped by the chiefs.

the pats have a better offense, and a better defense. atlanta was a better version of the raider and they got whited. why do you think your one-dimensional team has ANY chance?

>>74152331
>See the 2014 Raiders-Pats game
If you base your opinion on the beginning of the 2014 season then don't forget to add Dolphins as a threat (beat the Pats handily in Week 1) and Chiefs as a lock to beat team (blew out the Pats in Week 4)

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>>74148815
>>Your Team
Browns
>>There 3 biggest Draft Needs
Everything
>>You're 1st round draft choice
Best available player
>>Their 2017-2018 Record
2-14

>>74152345
Their QB died so it's what ifs with their fanbase now.

>2014 Raiders - Pats game
Wtf, how was that so close?

>>74152385
brady wasnt that good that year, pats defense did most of the heavy lifting

>>74152385
pats didn't get their shit straight until week 5 against the bungles. they started the season 2-2 and everyone was meming about how brady was done.

and then they won the super bowl

>>74152385
Patriots were dogshit until Week 5 that year

>>74152215
Fair enough, I can respect that point of view. I obviously feel like he's looking for payday but I could be wrong.

>>74152385
>wtf I love the raiders now

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Oh, what could've been

>>74152454
You just fucking went 12-4 STFU

t. 49ers fan

>>74152479
You'd be pretty mad if you're QB died while you have a chance to take the division

>>74152506
raiders would still have choked desu, it's in their blood

>>74152506
You'd be even madder if your QB put politics before his play on the field

>>74152518
Carr was pretty clutch this year though but Trent Cole had to be a fuckass

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>>74152523
GIRL U CAN TELL EVERYBODY

>CHI: Report: Jets 'won't be suitors' for Cutler
somebody take him already, please.

>>74151024
why? what happened to hauschka?

>>74152506
>Raiders beating Patriots

>>74152523
Well, my QB did and he won the owl

>>74151342
was that the year the seahawks made it to the owl to lose to the pats?

>>74152558
free agent, probably wants a bigger contract.

The seahawks did the same thing with their long snapper last year.

>>74152533

>LaMichael James sighting

Surprised Chip didn't get him back on the team last year.

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>This is how Blair Walsh signed his contract with the Seahawks

top kek

>>74152562
>barely beating the raiders

>>74152628
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/text/%3Ebarely%20beating%20the%20raiders/page/2/

>>74152618
Just like his kick vs the Seahawks, WIDE LEFT

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>>74152618
holy fucking kek

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Reminder that today is national pizza day.

>>74152618
8/10

>>74151342
Nope, that was the 2016 playoffs. The Seahawks would go on to lose to the Panthers the following week, in the divisional round.

>>74152648
wow thanks

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>>74152658
Favorite pizza place

>insults your QB

>>74152648
nice one!

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>>74152717
hate us cause you anus

>>74152648
XD good one

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>>74152735

>>74152717
>implying kap is a QB

Am I right in thinking that from this point forward all teams will improve, all young players will make a big jump, all busts will finally put it together with their new teams, and all QBs will become more comfortable with their offenses?

So what do you think?
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season/

>>74152778
no retard

>>74152787
PFF is trash

>>74152778
You're absolutely right.

>>74152778

you hope all of it becomes true, but realized about half of it won't.

>>74152787
>https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2016-nfl-season/
>Luck 33
>Wilson 42
>Carr 50
>Brees 83
>Prescott 88
>Stafford 99
Is this list bait?

>>74152904
>QB must be automatically above other players

>>74152934
I meant the order the QBs were in, Australia.

>>74152904
If Aaron Donald is that good, the Rams should win more games.

>>74152957
He's 1 player on a team that has 0 talent outside of the front 7. How exactly does a DT carry a team with a historically bad offense?

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GENTLEMEN

Were gonna have Pirate bowl 2.0
Cap this

>>74152778
Literally how?

>>74152026

He wants to get paid well and go to a good team.

If the Giants make a competitive offer? He's there.

Jaguars (his example, not mine)? Not a chance.

He wants to build a brand and make money after football.

>>74153197
>>74153170
Rip

NFL turning point
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyLPJ5JWZYk

>>74148815
Panthers
Offensive Tackle, Defensive End, Safety
Ryan Ramczyk (trade down with the browns)
11-5

>>74148815
eagles

cornerback, running back, and wide receiver.

CB Teez Tabor/WR Corey Davis/RB Dalvin Cook

9-7

>>74153426
Wow.

Already produced a fucking docu about it?

Almost like it's rigged.

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>>74152198
eiffel 65

>>74153610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDcoSgc2sI

>>74153630
lmao

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>>74148815
Seahawks

OT, DB, DL

Here's my mock, r8

11-5

>>74153578
Happened like 5 days ago. All they needed to do was piece together footage they had and do a voice over.

>>74153578
desu it was rigged but w.e.

>>74153748
Cam Rob scares teams, not many successful linemen from 'Bama

and when he went up against Garrett (he'll being going up against someone of that caliber every week), he looked bad.

>>74153836
i think there are issues with robinson in the passing game, plus the off-the-field stuff, but he's not a bad choice at #26.

also he won't be facing myles garrett every week lol

>>74153836
I know he's not perfect, but this draft is fucking shit for OL in general.

I fully expect the Hawks to trade down multiple times again and grab a literal who tackle in the third round.

I really fucking hope they sign an OT in FA or via trade, because they aren't going deep in the playoffs any time soon with the line they've go right now

>>74153872
lol he wont face Garrett every week, i know that. but if he goes to the 'hawks, he'll be in a division that has decent to good pass rush with Jones, Golden - Donald, Brockers


>>74153895
if i was 'hawks gm (im a panthers fan, so ultimately dont care lol)

-Sign Ricky Wagner
-Draft Brolles, Garcia or Mcdermott for guard/tackle depth

>>74154019
yeah robinson is still a project. with his strength and ability in the run game he's got great potential though. i think he could come in and play a decent LT to begin with, but it might be better to sign an FA and stick him at RT to mature.

if they don't try and reload at CB, robinson is a choice that makes a lot of sense.

>>74154019
I would love that desu, getting tackle depth will be key this offseason.

Britt at center is actually solid. Ifedi and Odiambo are still learning at guard. but the tackle position is paper thin. They need a veteran presence there. Hell, i'd be ok if they brought Okung back at this point.

>>74151131
Hauschka is the best kicker I can remember Seattle ever having

regret. its a bitter taste we will taste often in the years to come

>>74148716
TITANS
I
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A
N
S

>>74148716

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>>74154138
He's the hawks best kicker since Norm

Can we add Dan Quinn to the Brady's Bitch List?

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>>74154242
>mfw they kept showing the Falcons owner on the field watching his team collapse

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Yes well done Tom Brady, well done Tom Brady.....

HOWEVER

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/02/09/survey-ravens-qb-joe-flacco-voted-most-attractive-in-nfl/

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>>74154451
>tfw will never be as qt as Edelman

>>74154503
>neckbeard

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>This actually happened

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>Seahawks signing Blair Walsh
>LETTING FUCKING HAUSCHKA WALK

PETE YOU FUCKING SENILE OLD FUCK WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

>tfw pete won't even use the free money for getting an OL

we 8-8 now.

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>>74154503
>Played like shit for the first half had like 3+ drops
>Nobody cares because he made the most ridiculous catch of all time and the Pats won

Was some serious jew wizardry going on

>>74154533
To be fair he did ultimately cost them the No.2 seed this season

Don't get why they signed Blair Walsh of all people though

>>74154570

>To be fair he did ultimately cost them the No.2 seed this season

I'd argue it was more the offense than anything else. fucking 6 points in a game? that's terrible even against the cardinals. That offense was so damn bipolar that they lost games they should have won.

>Don't get why they signed Blair Walsh of all people though

probably since he's cheap but you get what you pay for so if he stays the hawks will get bit right in the ass.

>Edeljew destroys Jimmy G
http://streamable.com/evib6

Kek

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found a webm of additional footage of the falcoons celebrating too early

>>74151879
>Homer who incorrectly picked the Texans to win this year picks them again for next year
wow what a huge surprise.

Why isn't Zach "The Humble Doc" Zenner your favorite (white) running back yet?
https://youtu.be/L44ccxhzWRE