Cowboys- Roger Staubach
Giants- Phil Simms
Redskins- Sonny Jurgensen
Eagles- Donovan Mcnabb
49ers- Joe Montana
Rams- Kurt Warner
Seahawks- Dave Krieg
Cardinals- Jim Hart
Packers- Brett Favre
Bears- Jim McMahon
Vikings- Fran Tarkenton
Lions- Bobby Layne
Buccaneers- Brad Johnson
Saints- Drew Brees
Falcons- Matt Ryan
Panthers- Steve Beuerlein
Patriots- Tom Brady
Dolphins- Dan Marino
Jets- Joe Namath
Bills- Jim Kelly
Steelers- Ben Roethlisberger
Ravens- Joe Flacco
Bengals- Ken Anderson
Browns- Otto Graham
Broncos- John Elway
Raiders- Ken Stabler
Chiefs- Len Dawson
Chargers- Dan Fouts
Colts- Peyton Manning
Titans(Oilers)- Warren Moon
Jaguars- Mark Brunell
Texans- Matt Schaub
rivers > fouts
>no Eli
>>74129911
i really hate the brett favre meme. he was a good player but nowhere near good enough to be mentioned among elite names that dominated at the qb position. people just throw him into the discussion because he was a very likable guy >le wiley old gunslinger
>>74129993
shut up youngfag, you clearly dont remember 90's Favre where he was unquestioned the best qb in the league for three straight seasons
>>74130007
he made too many mistakes, threw important games at the end with bad throws and picks. thats why people liked him though because he was entertaining but thats not really good reason to include him in lists of the best of the best to play the game
>>74130093
its an entertainment business, so best = most entertaining
that's why he's the goat
only other players should give a shit about how good they are, since they're involved in the winning/losing
Tebow > Elway
>>74129911
Weirdly, I think Warner is the Cards' best QB as well as the Rams best QB
Rodgers > Favre
Cutler is better than McMahon
>>74129930
wrong
>>74130685
right
>The Green Bay Packers have had 25 years of Favre and Rodgers
>3 SB trips, 2 rings and numerous chokes to show for it
The franchise should get more shit for that desu
>>74129911
>fouts over rivers
the fuck
>>74130738
Colts have drafted 4 Quarterbacks #1 overall since 1983 and have one championship to show for it
thats way worse
>>74130738
Trust me we know. Fanbase has been calling for heads to roll for years.
They still haven't fucking fired Capers.
>>74129911
good list. choices that could be debated:
>Ken O'Brien vs. Namath
>Hasselbeck vs. Krieg
>Rodgers vs. Favre
>Bradshaw vs. Big Ben
also, should the world explode and the Lions win the Super Bowl ever, Matt Stafford > Bobby Layne. But only if.
>>74130826
>tfw they are right on track to ruin Luck's career
Fold them already.
>>74129911
Statistically speaking, the greatest Bears QB is Jay Cutler. He holds the team records for:
>completions
>Passing TDs
>Passing Yards
>QBR
>300 yard passing games
>Most times sacked (251)
The only QB records he *doesn't* hold are completion % (Shane Matthews) and interceptions (Sid Luckman).
>>74130826
at least they didn't draft Leaf with one of them.
>>74130886
we can't compare today's jacked-up QB raw stats with the older guys' other than did they lead the league, were they top 3 or 5, etc.
>>74130886
sadly this
mcmahon was a meme qb that was always hurt
without those defenses in the mid 80's he would basically be kyle orton
>>74130928
he averaged like 1800 yards and 8 td a year for the bears he was bad for his era
>>74130959
Jay, Sid, or Jim?
>>74130928
But McMahon sucked even for his era.
Also Eli > Phil Simms
>>74130975
jim
>>74130985
>>74130959
cutler sucks for his era too though
>>74129911
>Packers- Brett Favre
I think Rodgers might surpass him...
>>74129911
>Ravens- Joe Flacco
>Colts- Peyton Manning
Hold up, which one gets Johnny U?
>>74131055
the colts, If you want to say Johnny Unitas is better I wont blame you but I give it to Peyton.
>>74131000
ah well. some franchises just don't get the good QBs... now I'm on board with the "Cutler = bess Burrs QB" sentiment.
>>74131055
Peyton surpassed Johnny a long time ago
>>74130702
I think Luckman is the only bears QB in the hall of fame
>>74130007
I do remember the 90's and Favre was always overrated.
>>74129911
This is actually pretty spot on, but Cutler should get the nod over McMahon.
>>74129911
Not OP, but I'm gonna add a new wrinkle and make it merger-era only. Greatness ranked within each division too. See what you think.
>AFCE
Brady
Marino
Kelly
O'Brien
>AFCN
Anderson
Roethlisberger
Sipe
Flacco
>AFCS
P. Manning
Moon
Brunell
Schaub
>AFCW
Elway
Rivers
Dawson
Stabler
>NFCE
Staubach
McNabb
E. Manning
Theismann
>NFCN
Rodgers
Tarkenton
Cutler
Stafford
>NFCS
Brees
Ryan
Newton
Johnson
>NFCW
Montana
Warner
Hart
Hasselbeck
>AFCE
>Brady
>Marino
>Kelly
>Namath
Holy shit, is the rest of the NFL even trying?
GOAT Division for QB play
>>74129911
>Falcons- Matt Ryan
no
>>74129911
>the best Bucs QB EVER is Brad fucking Johnson
Honestly they should feel happy as fuck about having that one ring, because if you take that season away they're the worst franchise in the history of football and it's not even close.
>>74132853
they are the arizona diamondbacks of the nfl
>>74132836
t. Madden '04 babby who still thinks Vick was a good QB
>>74132862
I think he's talking about Brett Favre.
>>74130928
You don't understand. The Bears have literally never had a good QB. >Our history goes back roughly 100 years, we have more wins than any other NFL team, more HoFers than any NFL team....but not even one good QB. You think it's a coincidence that our team has been mediocre since it became a "passing league"? Or that our most recent SB appearance was ruined by a mediocre QB?
We don't know how to draft them, and to be blunt, we don't appreciate them. When we played street football in my childhood, nobody cared about who was QB. What mattered was being the RB or the LB. It's like a fundamental missing component in our culture, Illinois is all about that old-timey tough mindset. You see the same thing in other sports, too. When was the last time Illinois produced a NBA player who was clever and not just a freak of nature (a la Wade/Rose)?
>>74132853
And that one season was essentially just Gruden playing chess against himself and then saying "I'm gonna stick with this one" when it got to the point where victory was obvious for one side
>>74132858
Well the Diamondbacks are like 20 years younger at least.
Consider this, outside of their Superbowl year, the Bucs have exactly two playoff wins. Ever. In their entire history.
>>74130685
Hold up, son. The original 5-time champ, coming through.
>>74130826
The Broncos have won 2 more super bowls with colt's drafted qbs. The colts are like a slow moving natural disaster
can we agree Brad Johnson is the weak link on that list?
>all these idiots saying krieg and hasselbeck
yeah they were good but wilson is objectively better than both
>>74134414
This
Wilson is the best QB to ever play in Seattle
He's already 4th in yards and tds for Seattle QBs with only 5 seasons played
By the time his career is over he will have all the records for the team for sure
>>74129911
Rodgers and Stafford are better than Favre and Layne at this point.
>>74129930
>fouts
I fucked his niece
>>74130442
American perception of greatness in sports, everyone. No wonder you elected as clown like Donald Trump
>>74134818
You should have fucked his face, at least then something substantive would have come from his fucking mouth
>>74130886
I just wish Bears would go to the superbowl for the memes.
>>74135031
kek
>>74129911
Cardinals is Kurt Warner you goof
>>74129911
>all this overrating of oldcucks
>>74130529
This.
>>74136474
on the contrary I think there is too much recency bias itt
some of those franchises need to take a long hard look in the mirror
>>74129930
It's really a close call, I would put Rivers over Fouts tho.
>3 HoF caliber QBs
>0 (zero) SBs
>Chargers
Also, isn't Eli statistically better than Simms?
>mfw 1983, 2004 and 2008 have multiple entries
>>74136531
passing stats have inflated a lot since the 80's
>>74136557
True, but Simms also comes from an era in which the passing game started to pick up (Air Coryell, West Coast). I mean, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino and John Elway all put big numbers, equally or even better than today's passers.
>>74131055
Ravens, Unitas was loyal to Baltimore.
Sorry guys, but the best quarterback to wear purple is brett favre
Nobody can seriously think Kreig or Hassellbeck is better than Russell Wilson.
>the last time the Browns had a good QB, Stalin was still alive
Can't make this shit up
>>74131013
Cutler is elite desu
>>74138077
Bernie Kosar was pretty good.
How long until Carr passes Stabler?
>Seahawks- Dave Krieg
>Packers- Brett Favre
>>74129911
>Krieg over Wilson and Hasselbeck
>>74131434
>>74130870
Hasselbeck was above an above average QB, who looked good because he was carried by Shaun Alexander
Shaun Alexander was also an above average RB, who racked up stats was carried by a GOAT left side of the O-Line
>>74140600
Hasselbeck was a more than just above average and he usually had ABSOLUTE SHIT in his receiving corps, he would get all day to throw to receivers that couldn't catch
>Dropell Jackson
>Booby Engram
>Nate Burlelson
>Deion Branch
>Itula Mili
>Jerramy Stevens
>>74140698
>Implying DJ Hackett and TJ Houshmanzadeh weren't elite pass catchers
He was better than above average, but never truly great desu. But probably better than Kreig
Also happy to see nobody here has fallen for the /Jim Zorn/ meme
>>74130442
TIL Michael Vick is the best QB in NFL history
>>74129911
>Steelers Big Ben
Bruh.
>>74129911
>Dave Krieg
gb2/poo/
>>74129911
Carr will be better than Stabler
I think he already is, no disrespect intended to Stabler
>>74129911
Not a bad list, you know your history.
I'd still put Wilson for Seattle though.