The great debate.

>>74128844
brady is far better

lechoke should have 6 rings by now

brady, not even a discussion, and i fucking hate tom brady

Tom Brady doesn't play defense

settle it in the Celebrity Deathmatch arena.

Everyone wins.

Kobe vs Brady would be a better comparison. Lebeta won't win another title, his window is effectively closed.

The NFL is harder to dominate

>>74128926
so it's true what they say about leafposters.

I didn't want to believe it.

>>74128844
Brady = Jordan
Peyton = Lebron

>>74128844
>Man vs Beast

>>74128958

Lebron carried his team on his shoulders against the warriors last year and the year before

Peyton hasn't once carried his team in the playoffs.

>>74128958
Nah

Jordan = Brady
LeBron = Montana

>>74128958
pretty much

although lebron may be better than peyton

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>>74128908
He is the best defensive player on Pats offense!

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>>74128844

LeBron James since he's actually been the best at his sport before (not to mention currently)

>Both played in 7 chips
>One is 5-2
>The other is 3-4
Really makes you think.

>One left his team and teamed up with his friends who were both considered superstars in their primes and won rings that were supposed to be easy
>The other stuck with the team that drafted him and won championships with any teammates they fucking gave him without making excuses or looking for an easy way out
Really makes you think.

>One has always been a regular season frontrunner who choked in the playoffs and got sent home
>The other has been overlooked throughout his career in the regular season and then went super saiyan to win it all in the playoffs
really makes you think.

>One gives up on his team in game six of a playoff series when he's losing and down 3-2 facing elimination
>The other goes down 28-3 and then proceeds to rally his team back for an unprecedented 34-28 comeback victory in the biggest game of the year
Really makes you think.

>One has been hyped up of the second coming of Jesus since before he was even drafted, hell back when he was fucking playing in high school
>The other was a fucking 6th-round pick who overcame the odds and ended up having one of the greatest careers of any NFL quarterback ever.

>One played in an era of terrible basketball where the only legitimate competition he ever faced actually beat his ass in every game that mattered
>The other played in an era with other overhyped "stars" like Peyton Manning and Ben Rapistburger and managed to beat them in the playoffs as the underdog
Really makes you think

>>74129726
you now remember that they used to show lebron's high school games on ESPN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuNskCaOKvI

>>74128908
LeBron's an eastern conference baby though.

At least Brady has to meet a decent team or two in the playoffs.

>>74128958
don't insult Lebron like that

>>74128844
lebron wins by a landslide, brady has belichick coaching him in a sport where coaching actually matters a great deal. imagine how many rings lebron would have if he had greg as coach.

>>74129938
Zero because his ego would have forced the coach out of town once he tried to actually make him do stuff he didn't want to do.

>>74128958
>jordan=brady
6-0
5 mvps, should have had at least one more, Malone's
6 finals mvp
Dpoy
10 times best scorer
2 olympic gold medals
Seasons are 82 games + playoffs
Universally known brand
Billionnaire
Space Jam

>>74130019
Winning 5 superbowls as a starting QB in the NFL is more akin to Bill Russell's 11 rings, if Bill Russell had played in the modern NBA and if the NBA tried it's best to force parity like the NFL.

That being said, I can't argue Space Jam. Brady needs to up his movie game.

>>74130045
You cannot compare the dominance, Jordan did almost everything on his team. Not to the that he hadn't valuable team mates but he mastered every aspects of his game

>>74130113
Thing is, the sports are so different that comparing dominance in each is impossible. Brady only plays one half of the game, of which he has mastered every aspect of. Basketball is also a much more individual sport than football. One superstar pretty much guarantees playoffs. One-of-a-kind talent guarantees finals. IMO Brady's as close as you're going to get in football and even then it's not close.

I guess it comes down to football being more team oriented, but the need to have superstars means that it all falls on the QB.

>>74130113

nigga had pippen and rodman

when you have players like these mastering your game isn't hard

>>74130019
Jordan and LeBron should both have double digit MVPs. MVP becomes a meme award once you're dominant like that.

Brady isn't Jordan, that's shit. Brady is not the most skilled football player ever, he's the most accomplished. Brady is Russell. Brady isn't as skilled at football as Jordan or LeBron are at basketball.

This is a dumb thing to compare anyway. They are different sports.

>>74129867
Brady is 0-2 against le autistic qb man though.

At least Lebron has to meet a decent team or two in the playoffs.

>>74130282
he lost to the fucking dallas mavericks

>>74130329
Brady had a team that was 18-0 and lost to the 9-7 New York Giants, only managed to score 14 fucking points.

>>74130329
he lost to eli fucking manning

twice

>>74130345
>>74130365
Football is more of a team sport than basketball. One guy cannot carry his team to victory as easily as one guy can in the NBA.

Consider this: The patriots lost those Giants games because the defense gave up a score right at the end of the game. That would be on LeBron if he allowed that to happen in the finals, but Brady had no control over it in the owl.

>>74128844
Who has more money?

In the end, that's all that matters

>>74130395
Consider this: Brady had control of the offense every possession, and could have engineered a scoring drive every possession. And both games he couldn't score more than two touchdowns.

>>74130282
>At least Lebron has to meet a decent team or two in the playoffs.
Maybe once or twice in his career, not counting this year.

>>74130345
You know who else lost to those Giants? Brett Favre playing with literal homefield advantage

>>74130452
In both games, he marched his offense right down and field and scored a touchdown to secure the lead. Both times.

The defense then crapped themselves and gave up a touchdown themselves. Brady had no control over that at all.

>>74130488
He could have scored more than just two touchdowns all game. Then, if the defense gave up another score near the end of the game, it wouldn't have mattered because the Patriots would still be winning.

>>74130519
You don't just pull touchdowns out of your ass in the super bowl.

>>74130019

>Space Jam

Man, that's a low blow, there's no accomplishment that can even come close to that

>>74130449
definitely brady

married to gisele and got into under armour before it got big

lebron married a hood rat

>>74128844
Holy shit just look how fake lebrons smile is. I can't take this guy seriously

>>74130197
Let's see, Lebron has Tristan for rebounding, love for rebounding, and himself for rebounding. He has sharpshooters in korver , love, Irving, frye, smith, and maybe rj. He's also the best at driving and kicking. Seriously this Cavs team might be more stacked than the heat were on account it's built better for Lebron, yet he barely gets shit for that

>>74130749
And yet when LeBron doesn't play they are a sub 500 team.

There's no comparison, LeBron is the greatest all around player of all time and carries scrubs to heights they could barely think of achieving without him.

>>74130749
People also forget how easy lebron has it in the eastern conference, he's gone against like only 10 50+ win teams. Jordan played in a much tougher conference during the 80s and 90s. Lebron has it easy.

>>74130795
Jordan never beat a team like the Warriors in the playoffs.

>>74130536
He didn't bees to pull touchdowns out of his ass.
He has Randy fucking Moss. A great OLine, too.

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>comparing athletes that play in two completely different disciplines

>>74130778
Because it's a poor fit without him. The talent without is still there. But I guess it's convienient to downplay love and kyrie when talking about Lebron for some stupid reason

>>74128844
Gretzky.

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>>74128844

Oh hey there

>>74131180
The refs let Giants D get away with a lot of shit that game, the NFL didn't want Pats to win that Owl and with a perfect season on top of that, Spygate just happened a season ago during that time.

Patriots during Brady's injured year: 16-0 => 11-5
Cavs the year after LeBron left: 61-21 => 19-63

Both indisputably near GOAT status, but due to the nature of football being a team game, and the ability for apehoop to be taken over by a single player, LeBron is the probably more "must have" than Brady.

>>74130019
Space Jam was overrated shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJKnnThTfNY

>>74133022
No bullshit. They are not that great of a team. This is the same Kyrie Irving who lead his team to 2 #1 picks in 3 years. When LeBron was on the cavs in '10 he won 61 games. When he left they won 19. If anything people undervalue how amazing LeBron is because "muh closer"

>>74130329
So did loaded spurs and OKC teams

>>74133234
Friendly reminder that Cassel played even better on the Chiefs the next year, made the pro bowl, and took them to the playoffs, before getting annihilated too many times thanks to the shoddy O-Line, altering his career forever.

>>74133067
this tbqh

The helmet catch should have never happened, because the Giants OL were holding so blatantly that anyone with basic rule comprehension and functioning eyes would be able to discern those choke holds from legal football play.

Also, the Tuck rule should have never been a thing either, since it should have been roughing the passer on Woodson.

>>74133067
sorry but Messier has more Cups

>>74129752
that's a nice arena for a high school

Why lebron James? He didnt play with a competent franchise for the majority of his career. Tim Duncan is a better guy to compare with Brady. Loads of seasons, both 5 rings for 1 granchise with GOAT coach and ever changing squad that are all playing in competent system.
Seriously these guys have so much in common