#blackexcellence

>Sloppy seconds for the white boi
Heh business as usual

cheatriots BTFO

Screencapped for when Brady gets his 8th

>>74128699
Funny how this guy no one has mentioned through Brady's career is now relevant

Can't wait for the "bill Russell GOAT!" Threads next year have fun you guys

Am I being tricked there? He wasn't a QB was he?

>>74128699
>Allow us to refute something nobody ever claimed in the first place

The white man's burden is heavy.

When a record is broken the original stops being relevant. Nobody gives a fuck about winning 3 consecutive ballon d'or for example.

>>74128699
He was or still is insane

>>74128790
but the record wasnt broken you fucking spic

>>74128699
played for 49ers when they were good
jumped to Cowboys when their dynasty started up

>>74128767
he was an LB that was in the right place and the right time on two teams

the guy is a trivia question

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>>74128699
>Not the QB
Literally and figuratively irrelevant.

>>74128699
he needed two teams to pull that off. Brady did it with one

Charles Hayley was good buts lets not confuse him playing on the dynasty of the 80s 49ers then go on to play for the cowboys in the 90s. He wasnt the reason either of those teams won anything.

>>74133010
>HoF linebacker
>a trivia question

KYS
Y
S

>First

Brady was the first to throw 50 TDs, that doesn't mean shit

Only niggers use shit like this as accomplishments

>>74134039
do you have any idea how records work?

The first person to set it owns the record until it is surpassed, not tied. It isn't broken by somebody who ties it later, it is broken when it is surpassed.

>>74134054
dude charles hayley playing on those sb winning teams is alot different than tom brady leading 1 team to 5 under his complete control.

Tom is the commander

Charles was just a pawn that happened to win 5 under montana, young, and aikman

>Niggers are so butthurt that whitey dominates football accomplishments

Kek

The white man is slowly taking the NFL back. Look at all the white receivers now and there are also a few white rbs. Qbs, oline and TEs already dominated by the white man.

Black people probably didn't even know who he was until they realized this is a good reason to shit on white people.

>>74134074
Charles Haley is a Hall of Fame LB/DE, he's not some journeyman special teamer who just happened to end up on teams that won Super Bowls.

also he did it in fewer seasons.

>>74134103
most normies have no idea who this guy is, so yes kiwi you are right. Im sure at some point during the owl they posted a stat most sbs among players and saw charles hayley, looked him up and saw he was black and went crazy. Little did they know he had very little to do with any of the owls the teams he played on won.

>>74134018
he was a significant part of the defense, quit pretending nobody but the QB matters.

>>74134110
so if he had so little to do with any of those wins why is he in the Hall of Fame?

>>74134108
this is correct

>>74134110
this is wrong

>>74128699
Brady will be the first to get 6 so it really doesn't matter

>>74134108
I agree hes good but seriously think about what you are implying. He got lucky as shit he played for the 80s 49ers then immediately on the cowboys right after. both teams winning multiple superbowls in a short amount of time.
Tom has taken 7 different patriot teams to the owl and won 5 of them. the 2 he lost were complete fluke games that required a fuck ton of meme magic for the giants.

>>74134118
he played with steve young, montana, and the 90s cowboys. stop pretending they won cause of him.

>>74134119
hes a good player no doubt but those teams were fucking amazing without him. Are you telling me montana won those superbowls because of Charles?

>>74134118
He's a fucking lb dude, not even close comparison wise to a qb. The Qbs is the undisputed leader and most important position of the field. Brady also did it on one team where this guy just happened to be part of 2 dynasties. He was lucky.

>>74134108
>>74134120
Spotted a melanin filled friend

>>74134124
and Tom Brady got lucky as shit he was drafted to the Patriots and not the Browns or Jaguars or some other franchise where he would have had, at best, a Tony Romo-esque career. He's lucky that Drew Bledsoe got hurt. He's lucky that some dumbass ref called an incomplete pass on a fumble.

every player who achieves that kind of success had some luck along the way.

Brady is the first one to do with the same team. That's the difference you dumb fucking niggers and it doesn't mean it's better read the whole article about the record motherfuckers reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>74134130
The amount of mental gymnastics these brady haters will do to try and prove he isnt the all time great is baffling. Pretty soon they will run out of excuses and start saying brady would be nothing if it wasnt for the water boy properly hydrating him on a regular basis.

>>74134136
jags were in 2 afc championship games in the 90s with tom coughlin you total casual. they alos had multiple playoff appearances in the early 00's neck yourself.

youre right luck does play a roll in everything, teams do need to catch a break but jesus fucking christ if you think hayley playing on 2 different dynasties is the same as tom brady dominating the nfl with 1 team for almost 2 decades you are being willfully ignorant.

Remember that crucial game winning drive led by Charles Haley? I sure do! I even had his jersey before people complained about this haha. I really really like Charles Haley.

I named my daughter Haley and my wife's son is named Charles. I was born in 1994 and his jersey number is my birth year I just love him that much. I have a 94 tattooed on my neck and five lombardies on my face. Don't mess with us true Haley fans or Haley.

Remember in super bowl 28 when Charles Haley almost sacked Jim Kelly!? I absolutely do and totally just didn't see the video on Twitter today.

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>>74134124
>>74134130
>>74134133
I'm not comparing Haley to Brady because that's impossible.
I'm pushing back against the idea that Haley is some scrub who just happened to win five Bowls. He was one of the top defensive players in the league, right behind Reggie White. Dallas got him from SF for a reason and he was part of the power shift in the two dynasties.

>>74134165
Jags were briefly relevant when they had Brunell/McCardell/Smith/Boselli but from the early 00's until now they have been a clusterfuck organization with exactly one playoff win.

>>74134174
>Charles Haley
>right behind Reggie white

AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>74134174
I never said he was a scrub. I said in every post he was a good player. I dont think the 80s 49ers and the 90s cowboys would be any different if it werent for him. He was a nice piece but those teams were so fucking stacked I really dont think it mattered. He was a role player for the most part.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HaleCh00.htm#all_defense_playoffs

His stats are not that impressive

>>74134192
who else you got at DE from that era? They're both in the HOF and I can't think of anyone else right now.

>>74134217
> can only think of 2 players from the 80s and 90s for LB/DE.

stick to dive grass and baseball

ITS OVER FOR DRUMPF

>>74134217
Bruce smith, Lawrence Taylor, Howie long, Lee Roy selmon, Derrick Thomas

>>74134233
>>74134243
Bruce Smith is the only DE whose career spanned the same time, Long and Selmon were earlier and Taylor and Thomas were LBs.

"Charles"
"Charlie"
Carl Lee Haley

YES THEY DESERVED TO DIE! AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL TOO!

>>74134120
You are a shitskin

>>74134254
Dude, just look up the all decades teams, Haley didn't even make either the 80s or 90s. Look at it this way, Bruce smith never won a super bowl yet he's in the hof with the most sacks in nfl history. Haley MAY have gotten into the hof without a ring but he definitely benefited from playing on 5 super bowl teams.

Reggie white and Bruce smith were miles ahead of funding Charles Haley.

>>74128699
WE

>>74134274
He pretty much won the lottery when it comes to being on a team that won super bowls, if it wasn't him it would be the next lucky nigger on the block. He had nowhere near the amount of meaning that tom had on his super bowl wins as a player but nig nogs gonna be niggers.

>>74134292
We shouldn't even be talking about him and Brady. This guy didn't have the influence Reggie white had in his super bowl win. For Fuchs sake, Reggie white had 3 sacks in his super bowl win. Did this guy's even have 3 sacks in 5 super bowl games?

>>74134274
I admit Bruce Smith is better (along with White), he was the guy I forgot. Fair point. But Haley was a top player who earned his rings.

Brady can be considered GOAT no problem. But the idea that everyone else is just a bum who is lucky to be along for the ride is ridiculous, especially in the 80s and 90s when defense was more important.
He didn't 'cause' those teams to win Super Bowls any more than Ronnie Lott or Jay Novacek, but he still contributed.

Silly white bois BTFO again baka lmao family

>>74134305
It's just deadspin/buzzfeed trying to make it political.

>>74134306
> charles hayley is just as important as ronnie lott

This discussion is over

Ken Norton > Charles Hayley

Who did it faster?

>>74134325
they both earned their rings and weren't just lucky to be on the team as people in this thread claim

ITT: Insufferable handegg fans who are the norm for sports fans in Fatmerica.

Jesus christ you guys are retarded.

>>74134055
this

it's mentally exhausting

>>74128699
Cant wait til Brady wins his 6th now

>>74134055
meanwhile white Americans have to make everything about nationality
also talked so much about Germans being evil even though only a few Germans where Nazis that now all the blacks see you as slave owners even though only a few whites had slaves
#karma

>>74134418
You know what else was exhausting? Being a slave.

>>74134376
Wrong

Ronnie Lott is an all time great.

Charles hayley is a run of the mill player who had 1-2 good seasons. Sorry but the guy lucked into 2 amazing dynasties. Add him on any of the competition the 49ers or Dallas faced and I guarantee you the outcomes would be the same. Hayley wasn't a game changer.

>>74128790
>he doesnt rate Marco van GOATsen>>74128790

>>74134565
You know what else is exhausting? Plowing your mom every night.

>>74134091
>Look at all the white receivers now
There's Julian Edelman and Jordy Nelson. Every other white receiver is shit on my dick.

>>74134631
The team that won the super bowl has 3 white wide receivers. This is only the beginning, so of course there are only a couple really good ones right now, it takes time. Teams are getting sick of these niggers dancing and trying get to catch every pass with one hand. They want team players that want to win.

>>74128699
He had to play on two different teams to do it, though. Brady has won five with the same team.

>>74133010
>jumped to Cowboys when their dynasty started up
Didn't "jump" so much as the 49ers traded his ass to the Cowboys for draft picks (a late 2nd rounder in '93 and a late 3rd rounder in '94) just to be rid of the locker room problems he was causing because he was a massive asshole and didn't get along with the coach.

>>74134034
He only entered the Hall of Fame recently and only because autistic idiots like you went HE HAS FIVE RINGS! WHY ISN'T HE IN CANTON?! He was a mediocre LB who was lucky enough to play for two dynasties

>>74134383
Sup Benedict

Sucking lots of British cock today?

what does it say about this sport when people only ever know quarterbacks and sometimes a very successful receiver?

or what does it say about this sport when almost every superbowl you get some kind of record broken?

or what does it say about this sport when the discussion about this game has almost died but it was supposed to be the greatest comeback in superbowl history? or the way the commentators reacted to it like it's the most normal possible thing to occur?


there's something rotten and soulless about american football

>>74134631
>(((edelman)))
>white

>>74135630
he is

>>74135403
have to agree, its not a real sport

sport implies skill and intelligence (Even if the player may be dumb, he's intelligent in the sport)

thats why they have the combine. hey this guy can run 40 yards in 4 seconds, he can plug in here. the coaches are the real geniuses, the qb, and maybe a receiver. the rest are plug-in-and-play guys that are pretty much interchangeable.

>>74128699

>2 different teams

Who thinks this counts?

>>74132982
>Italian
>Spic

C'mon my guy

>>74135403
What are you even talking about? Most of this is fundamentally untrue

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>even he knows brady is on track for another

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>defensive player
>2 different teams
>before salary cap era

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Alright everyone, shut the fuck up for a moment.

Ninerfag here, Haley is not even the greatest 49er pass rusher of all time, let alone a top 20 pass rusher in league history. He's was a very good player, but certainly not even close to Bruce Smith or LT status.

Is he a HOF player? Borderline but the only reason he is even in is because he has 5 owls, and Eddie Debartolo and Jerry Jones campaigned to get him enshrined.

>>74128699
Obviously this dude isn't any Brady. But people in here are saying he was a scrub nobody that lucked into dynastys. He may have lucked into playing for dynasty teams, but make no mistake he was a key part of those defenses. He was a great player, a good modern day comparison would be Justin Houston. Perennial pro-bowler and excellent edge LB. He's no fuckin' Brady though.

>>74137600
I should also add that this guy was a legit goddamn nutjob. If you don't know about Haley go read up on him. He would jack off to the point of cumming in the locker room while talking about other players about their wives in front of them, he pissed inside other players cars, he tried to stab Irvin in the neck with a pair of scissors at a barber shop because Irvin was in his favorite seat, he would walk around the locker room naked with his erect dick in hand asking players to suck his cock. All of this despite being super homophobic. He was fucking crazy. He was 4chan personified.

>>74137662
Wait, I thought Irvin was the one who tried to stab someone else at the barber shop

>>74135403
it says that it's a team sport with a ton of interchangeable moving parts and that calling any one player the "GOAT" is an exercise either in futility or mental gymnastics.

>>74138038
You are right, I confused them. But i'm sure he probably tried to stab someone else in the neck at some point.

>>74135403
>or the way the commentators reacted to it like it's the most normal possible thing to occur?
You mean they didn't GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOAOAOAOAOOOAOAOAOAOOAOAAOAOAOLL?

Yeah we don't do that for any sport in the US.

>>74128699
RUDY
RUDY

>>74134018
>He wasnt the reason either of those teams won anything.
you're such a dumbass anon

>>74145009
please go on and tell us how Charles Haley led the cowboys and niners to victory. Hes a literal who to most fans. Its fucking pathetic how low you brady haters will stoop.

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>>74128699
relly made me think

>>74136403
As a new Ninerfag
Do you think shanahan and lynch are good choices?

>>74134646
And yet their team was still almost 70% black

Really engages the noggin.

>>74145282
Shanahan - Yes

Lynch - Anyone would have been an upgrade over their previous GM, even a guy with zero experience. He needs to fill out his staff with experienced scouts and he might have a chance at doing a halfway decent job.

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>>74145318
Thanks
How long till 9ers are good again do u think?

>>74145339
Their division is pretty bad, and so is the NFC overall. If they draft well and bring in some free agents then can turn it around and contend in 2-3 years.

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>>74145347
You are da MVP
Now let's hope 49ers become good

>>74134563
Allied Forces marching through Germany: "Where did all the Nazis go?"
Germans: "Nazi? Was ist das? I've never heard of Nazi. Fritz, do you know what a Nazi is? Nein? Nope, no Nazis here."

Funny how after your country lost the war all the Nazis magically disappeared.

>>74147661
>Funny how after your country lost the war all the Nazis magically disappeared.

They didn't, though. The US, France, and Britain had to undertake a massive effort to remove Nazi influence in West Germany, debunking Nazi propaganda, putting high-ranking Nazi officials on trial, adding some propaganda of their own....they called it "Denazification" iirc and it took years.

And over in the East, the Russians just shot anyone who said Heil Hitler.

>>74128699

I mean... did anyone SAY Tom Brady was the first person to win 5 championships?

>>74128699
Even I knew that

White knowledge fact of the day

>>74128699
Polish those trophies for fuck's sake

Why is it that blacks have the need to make everything "theirs"???

It seems like there is this undying need to prove they did it first. Another example is "black man taught jack daniels his recipe first"....etc etc..

Racial insecurities???

>Comparing a mediocre montana/aikman cockrider pawn to Tom Brady

>>74134034
>>Linebacker
>Not a trivia question

LT obviously, and MAYBE Butkus deserve to be household names. Nobody else who isn't a current player.

>>74128699
>caring about NIGGERS

Lel

>>74143164
no, i don't mean that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYMDkx1qHkk


more like this

>>74149911
Seriously this. There are guys who never played a single snap in the NFL but still have rings. It makes sense as a metric of GOAT QB because the position is so inherently important to the team's success, but I can only remember one Super Bowl where a LB carried his team.

Where does this guy rank in terms of career sacks or tackles? Does he have any individual records?

>>74128699
>You will never be this petty and racist

Feels good

>>74149883
Because THEY BE KANGZ! Fucking stupid white boy.

>>74128787
Underrated

>>74147718
Basically everything that will need to be done once Trump goes off the rails

>>74150715
I know, right? Trump is literally hitler.

FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

>>74150715

since american is literally nazi germany now you should head for the safety of mexico or canada friendo

>>74134130
>lb
>not even close comparison wise to a qb

Haley was an OLB, but your sentence is retarded when ILB and MLB are literally the QBs of the defense.

>>74150767
I was literally shaking on election night. I had to tell my wife's some Tyrone Tyrrell Tyrese that he might be shipped back to Africa in trumps Nazi america, he's only 7 years old.

>>74150859
try that one again

>>74150839
Holy shit dude, you're right. MLB is totally comparable to a QB. What was I thinking.

>>74150879
They don't get to take off on 40% of plays like a qb does

>>74150956
and in those 60% of plays, a QB is still 10 times more impactful than a MLB

whitebois on suicide watch

>>74150956
Wow dude, mind blowing. Really made me think. MLBs are now the leaders of the teams unquestionably.

>TOM BRADY WAS A BLACK MAN

>brady gets his 4th ring
Top kek, same as montana but montana had a way harder time doing it
>brady gets his 5th ring
Top kek, Haley is the true goat, he carried thise teams
>brady get his 6th ring
?????

>>74128699

Is there a more petty and race obsessed group of people than niggers? It's truly amazing.

>>74151887
>the year 2056, Brady gets ring #43
Top kek, the Celtics and Yankees have 44 between them

So, an above average black guy gets 5 superb owl rings while the best ever white player can only match and cheated his way to get there.
Really activates the free trade African Almonds.

>>74152029

>and cheated his way to get there

No matter how many times you try to repeat this slanderous garbage, it will never magically become true.

>>74152047
but he cheated his way to at least 2 of them

>>74135403
what does it say about a country if they take a Dutch flag and put some shitty crest on it?

>>74137662
Does this mean hes /ourguy/ , spee?

>>74149883
As an outsider it seems to be some resent about how they were dominated for so much time, so they need to prove to the whites that they are better, think off the bullied kids in schools, most of them have power fantasies in which they control and humilliate their bullies, now apply that to race and carried generation to generation, fueled by some sjw and we got this as result

>>74137662
Yes I thought he was that guy. Didn't he also smear shit on the desk at a team meeting? Absolutely barbaric.

>>74128699
Black people are so sensitive.

>>74128699
and he went to my college what a time to be alive

I know shit about handegg but I head Tom Brady is the first quarter back to do it, not the first player

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>>74134124
> Tom has taken 7 different patriot teams to the owl and won 5 of them. the 2 he lost were complete fluke games that required a fuck ton of meme magic for the giants.

> using the fluke excuse for the losses and conveniently ignoring that the xehawks/falcons both were fluke wins where all they had to do was run the ball and win
ISHYGDDT

>>74154547
yah people try to make it seem like they don't know in order to try to take shits on the universally accept GOAT qb.

There's some back office fag with like 7 and some shitty coach who just contantly got lucky:

Neal Dahlen:5 (ive) with San Francisco (Staff and Player Personnel) and 2 (two) with Denver (General Manager)
Bill Belichick: 2 (two) as defensive coordinator of the Giants and 5 (five) as head coach of New England

Oh, it's bill. Bill has more rings than that shit defensive player. weird.

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>those hilarious locker room stories about Haley bullying Montana

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>mfw every "Black people are actually awesome" fact is STILL them comparing themselves to white people somehow

>>74155147
>using the fluke excuse for the losses and conveniently ignoring that the xehawks/falcons both were fluke wins where all they had to do was run the ball and win
Have you seen the video on YouTube of the Pats loterally teaching Butler how to defend that pass, then Browner reminding him before the plays starts?
Search patriots do your job.

Fluke /= Preparation. Don't run the same play over and over, because good teams notice.

>>74155877
every team prepares

the point is, butler never makes that play if the xehawks weren't so booty blasted by marshawn and wanted to elevate russlel to superstar status