/hoc/

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First for Publix

And Canes are good posters

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>needing to score goals to win hockey games

>>74103262
The 2006 first overall draft pick. ;^)

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>>74103289

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Give it to me straight, boys, will the canes be playoff regulars within 3 years?

Also, if the management picks the red sweaters as our fucking home ones instead of the black, I'll fucking die.

>>74103474
They would have been a playoff team for like 3 years now if they had a goalie

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>>74103497
Ned is looking pretty good.

Ward is going to die of exhaustion one of these days

>>74103474
>acquire goalie
>acquire someone that can actually score

easily a wild card team

>>74103246
He's right, the other one was in "Mystery Men."

>>74103522
could still meme in this year, you never know

>>74103246
Be ready for Sabres domination in the coming years

>>74104411
When they somehow get some elite players and team depth?

>blots

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>rags

>look at cantpucks schedule
>5pm start
>4pm start
>10am start
>430pm start
>4pm start
>5pm start
>rogers doesnt replay games in the evening anymore
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Aho and Lindholm are the next ________

>>74105240
busts

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>>74105240
golden knights

>>74103289
nice looking salad

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>rags

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This is the year boys

>rags

Anyone got the chart with the latest meme rankings?

What is the NHL equivalent of 28-31

>>74106496
2014 San Jose Sharks

>>74106496
It was 4-1

>>74106518
>>74106685
DELET THIS

>>74103474
>Promote Nedel to starter
>Call up Gauthier and Beanman
>Throw money from the empty cap space at talented FAs
>Trade for top-end goal scoring without disrupting the core (Aho, Teravainen, Faulk, Skinner, Hanifin, Slavin)

Literally guaranteed 105+ points each season for as long as Aho produces

>>74106897
>tfw Ron works his voodoo magic again and gets Duchene for Lindy, Fleury, Pesce, and a low pick

I'd actually lose my mind

>>74106685
delete

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Find a flaw.

>>74106994
He has a slavic last name.

>>74107048
Find me one Slav named Vezinyk

>>74106971
Seems like a lot from Carolina's side.

friendly reminder

czech>>>>>>>>>>>slovakia

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What's he doing now?

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I support Carolina and Nashville

They are good posters with good hockey teams. And they make canadumbs mad. Very good!

>>74107205
Probably killed himself.

>>74107205
Will you still be posting this when the wild are out in the 1st or 2nd round again?

>>74107294
You're doing a lot of guesswork here pal

What's a bigger choke/comeback
Laffs vs Bruins 4-1
Or
Kings sweeping Sharks in 7 after down 3-0

>>74107237
what's up man?

>>74105240
lgbtq-ice breakers and the first ones to come out of the closet in the NHL when they admit that they are dating

>>74107460
Not really considering the wild haven't done shit in the playoffs.

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Mikke Granlund will win Hart next season

>>74105240
proof that Finns and Swedes can get along after all

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>>74107946
We've always got along

>>74107967
good, that warms our choleseterol-laden burger hearts

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>>74107967
This tbf

>>74107901
much like the entirety of canada

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>>74108200
Come again?

>>74108288
you were saying?

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>>74108331
fugg forgot pic

>>74108288
>nhl

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daily reminder that FINNS are BASED and SWEDES can suck my ASS

>>74108436
Why would we discuss countries in the NHL? Youre not retarded are you?

>>74108494
Reminder that Sweden will always be a closer friend to Finland than USA, and that there is nothing you can do about it.

>>74108524
Nobody was discussing countries you moron

Is that a challenge?

t.Trump

>>74108527
This to be frank

>>74107205
>that whole post
Lmao my sides. how dumb can you be?

>>74108527
Did I say anything about swedes and finns being bros? no, I didn't. i said you can SUCK MY ASS

>>74107901
>>74108200
>>74108540
Kill yourself idiot and don't ever reply to me again

>>74108572
canada has 7 teams
if you're too dense to understand that you can go back to readdit

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>>74108572
I thought canadians were supposed to be chill wtf

>>74108549
Thanks for the support, friend

>>74108571
This post is very angry

Wong's bros how useful is marchenko? Is he worthy of a bottom pair?

what will the leafs do to top the failcunts?

>>74108602
sorry Europal I didnt mean to get so upset

you guys are still better than canadai

>>74108645
Can't we all just be friends?

>>74108643
What's an NHL equivalent of blowing a 28-0 lead in the SuperBowl? I can't think of any. I mean blowing a 3-0 series lead is close but not quite.

>>74108669
no

>>74108645
why does there always have to be an enemy?

>>74108669
>69
nice, youre alright sweden

>>74108613
Yeah, I'd say he's alright for a bottom pairing. But then again, the whole wings defense is poop. So my view on the matter might be skewed from comparing him to the rest of the defensive line-up.

>>74108683
Sad!

>>74108696
Thanks, you too

>>74108680
nah, in comparison it's only one game so it'd be like giving up a 4 or 5 goal lead. series leads are much more embarrassing

>>74108692
wtf greece your enemy now

canada is based again

>>74108720
But it's literally never been done before. That is the first time a team has come back from a 28-0 deficit in the superb owl.

>>74108733
Did 4-1 happen before the Leafs did it? Might just be that.

THIS IS GROUND CONTROL TO MAJOR TOM

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>>74108755
hi

>>74108752
That's the first round of the playoffs. Not even close to the same thing. Also blowing a 3-0 series lead is way worse than blowing a 3 goal lead. It's still fucking embarrassing but not to the same scale as the other 2.

>>74108779
Then someone doing that or worse in game 7 of the SCF? But you're not going to find an equivalent because there's no comparable situation in hockey. Even if it's a national final you can argue the teams have only played together for like two weeks so it's not the same as a team doing it who has played together all year.

'In what is still considered the NHL's greatest comeback, Toronto defeated Detroit in the Stanley Cup Final after losing the first three games by scores of 3-2, 4-2, and 5-2. The Maple Leaf comeback began with a 4-3 victory in Detroit, and continued with a pair of convincing wins: 9-3 and 3-0. A record crowd of over 16,000 packed Maple Leaf Gardens to see Toronto take the Cup by beating Detroit 3-1 in game seven."

Daily reminder that Matthews>Laine

>>74108818
The past year has seen some seriously goat championships. The cavs came back from 3-1, the cubs broke the curse and came back from 3-1 and now the pats just came back from a 28-0 deficit.

>>74108819
>babby cups
'no'

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>>74108853
>TFW wild comfortably win the cup with no drama

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Christians: 1
Atheists: 0

>>74108898
kapfinn pls make it happen. i couldn't handle the heartache

>>74108852
>le stand in front of the net and wait for hyman to pass man

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also bow to your fucking overlord, /hoc/

>>74108931
>a bust who was only thought of as good by people who are friends with his dad

?

>>74108898
Have you forgotten that Boudreau is the coach?

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>>74108947
no, bow to me

>>74104411
don't get my hopes up, anon

>>74108924
Matthews is more versatile player than Laine. He'll win the stanley cup some day.

>>74109018
>le stand in front of the net and wait for hyman to pass
>le stand on the left point and wait for ehlers to skate around you
Remind me why do we rate these two?

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What's your predictions for conference finals lads?
>Blackhawks/Mild vs Sharks
>Caps(true Eastern final is them beating Pens) vs Habs
>Sharks vs Caps Final

>>74109217
>havs get a bye to the ecf
Fuck this playoff format what a joke

>>74109217
Real picks:
WCF - Sharks vs Hawks
ECF - Caps vs Habs

Sharks over Caps

Meme picks:
WCF - Preds vs Ducks
ECF - Jackets vs Leafs

Ducks over the Jackets

>>74109277
>Sharks/Caps SCF
>not meme

>>74109308
Sharks made it to the cup last year and the caps are favored every year. It's not that much of a meme. CBJ vs ANA is a way bigger meme.

>>74109127
>le stand in front of the net and wait for hyman to pass

If it's so easy to do, then why don't others do the same thing? Maybe some players might try to do that but they aren't as good as Matthews.

>>74109277
Shorks
Caps

Preds
Jackets

why does no one rate the wild? they seem to be laying bretty good

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>tfw da Kangz don't win a Cup ever again

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>>74109494
>mfw

Why are all you putting the sharks in the final? Are they even good?

>>74109521
The west is just weak this year. The sharks have the best team IMO.

>>74109521
They're the best team by far in the Pacific. As long as they don't totally choke, they should at least be in the wcf.

>>74109217
without looking at seeding:

wild vs jets

pongs vs panthers

>>74109567
Christ Finland, 2 of your 4 picks will be fortunate to even make the playoffs.

>>74109515
>unopened pack of ciggies
>i'm totally smoking guys

>>74109593
You'll see

this is the year of the surprises

Mcdavid is probably a playoff choker

>>74109515
Lmao what a G

>>74109567
>jets
hahah you expect them to go on a mad streak? They would need to win like 80% of the remaining games bruh.

>>74109665
jets is a reach, but i couldnt think of another west team thats any good

>>74109567
>Winnipeg
>leading the league in GA
>making the playoffs
No need to meme this hard

>>74109486
Their meme stats are quite poor; teams like that can succeed in the regular season but they factually don't win the cup.

>>74108088
this makes me warm inside

stay viking, steffe och palle

>>74109217
>>74109277

>shithawks making that far

Nah, they're done for. Toews and Kane deal will sink them for future years

>>74109728
The hawks are a skeleton of their old self but I would definitely still have them in the conference finals. They can easily win a round or 2.

fuggin PICTURES TAKE A YEAR TO LOAD

FUCK YOU MOOT

Who will win the Fart Ross cup this year?

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>last playoff experience was losing the cup in game 7
>be the worst team of all time for the next 10 years
>only time >we were in a playoff spot during that time was one week in a shortened season

It's been a trying decade, lads. My body is ready.

>>74109772
Crosby at this point imo

>CBJ make the playoffs
>get swept first round because they have no experience

>>74109772
crosby or mcdavid

>>74109772
Healthy == Crosby || McDavid

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>>74109777

>>74109772
Crosby no discussion

>>74106897
He's a Finn, gonna go dark after this year.

>>74109851
to intelligent to know the difference between Art Ross and Richard? Carter is 15th in points

>>74103474
if you get a goalietender, yes.

>>74106994
he looks like ronald mcdonald without the makeup.

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>>74109945
Yeah goaltending is pretty easy to find.

>>74109774
Ready to be swept in the first round?

>>74109967
who is this forced meme ugly whore?

Mcdavid is a playoff choker

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>>74110173

>>74110192
objectively nobody can dispute this

>>74110224
please make more super forwards again

>kings will win the cup!
>kings will sneak into the wc and make a cup run
>kings will make the playoffs
>kings will be healthy
>kings will get a top pick
>the shanty hovel of Armenia

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>>74110231
If only I could

>>74109967
>it has a long time ago come to a point that i don't know which Chloe pics are shopped and which aren't
they still make me laugh.

>>74110290
Yeah that pic is not shopped lmao

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Reminder that Devils will be elite team by 2020

>>74104411
This. This season is about building chemistry. The talent is there.

>>74109217
Sharks vs Hawks
Bolts vs Caps

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>>74110518
>bolts

>>74110518
>bloots
>reddithawks
Wew

>>74110536
>>74110581
I just hope anyone except rags, blow jackets and pongs gets to finals

>>74110627
tara is a womans name innit

>>74110670
I don't believe the scoreboard announcements are required to be gay just because it's a pride night

>>74106685
REEEEEE FUCK THE RAGS

>>74110627
>ching

That's an actual name?

>>74109277
I wouldn't be mad if the jackets lost in the cup final

>>74110636
Jackets or rags won't. Pongs definitely could though.

>>74110804
Lel

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>>74110804
i dont get it

Just watched a rooftop movie screening of Mighty Ducks.

Got home now i'm gonna watch D2.

Yeeeee boiiiii

>>74110627
>ching & franki
sounds like a fucking sitcom

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yfwsjwtc

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These three are the trhee stars

>>74111045
Aho should have been all three stars imo

>>74110912
I'd post a pic of mfwsjwtc but my face would already be melting off at that point along with everyone else's

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>>74110912
I'd be crying with joy

McKenzie on Bergevin: "I believe he's got significant interest in Matt Duchene out of Colorado, but as mentioned...price too high right now"

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Good morning /hoc/ I made it to Hawaii.

>>74111226
Honolulu team when?

>>74111226
Very nice, go ride the waves brother.

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>>74111236
I'll get the $500 million

>>74111247
Thanks binland. I'll talk to you guys in a week

>>74111226
>in hawaii
>still posting on here

lol

>>74111226
Those building look like they'd fit right into Ukraine.

>>74111311
>>74111226
have fun :)

Pulju deported when

>>74111678
Pulju is the next Malkin.

>>74111226
>Honolulu
Absolute shithole

>>74111711
t. haole idiot

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>>74110142
Yes. A first round sweep is better than nothing.

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How may I assist you?

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Friendly reminder to those ITT that the WhoCare-olina Literally Whorricanes will be in Quebec or Seattle in 5 years, tops.

>>74111771
I don't live in Hawaii you mongol fuck

>>74111952
>mad
>at the sunbelt
Imagine going through life like this

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>yfw the best +/- line is a finnish manlet, a jew with a wife's daughter, and a 49 year old man.

so I ran into devan dubnyk at a bar in my city last night and had a few drinks with him. He's super polite and nice

>>74109217
The Meme Dream:
>WCF
Wild over Ducks
>ECF
Canes over Hasbs
>SCF
Canes - Wild series tied at 3-3, Game 7 into over time, a Staal brother wins

>>74112078
>living in wienerpeg
So was he as tall as he seems?

>>74112065
>the team with one of the highest goal differentials has players with the best +/- in the league

fucking shocker

Also, plus/minus is a retarded stat and anyone who judges a player based off of it is also a retard

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>>74111952
>mad at the Canes?

>>74112098
Well I'm 6'3, so he didn't seem insanely tall to me, but he definitely had a few inches on me. And ya, I was born here so at least I have an excuse

>>74111771
finland do you like me?

>>74112129
no

>>74112129
>________ do you like me?
Pro tip: the answer is always no

>>74112078
Did you ask him if he wanted to have a go in the bathroom?

>>74112173
people have asked me before and if I liked them I answered positively.

>>74112078
>>74112194
This.
He has been on a long trip and is probably lonely. I am sure you guys have had a pretty fun time.

>>74112196
I'm afraid you completely missed the point of my post

>>74112225
no I didn't, I get what you are saying. You 're right.

>>74111931
are those lace covers? never seen those.

>>74112108
Why are you so fucking mad? He wasn't bragging or judging a player based on his +/- he was just shit posting about how unlikely those 3 were.

>>74112269
I just fucking hate +/- and how its accepted as a legitimate stat

>>74112290
I just fucking hate assists and how its accepted as a legitimate stat

>>74112307
what lol, in most cases the assist is more important than the goal. 90% of hockey is positional and setting guys up to be in a position to score. Why do you think the best players, or the players who get the most goals also tend to get the most assists (except for filthy russians)?

STATS THAT MATTER:
goals
assists
points
+/-
time on ice
shots
penalties
eye test score(ETS)

STATS THAT DONT MATTER:
all the rest(dum advanced stats for fucking nerds)

>>74112307
that only applies to secondary assists.

>>74112354
See
>>74112359
Greece understands. Secondary assist are a useless stat and shouldnt be on a stat sheet

>>74112290
I just fucking hate GAA and how it's accepted as a legitimate stat

>>74112388
But how else would McDavid be labeled as the next Gretzky?

Team +/- is much better than individual

>>74106496
In recent history, probably the >laffs blowing that game 7 lead against Boston. I'm not sure, there's quite a bit of choking that happens in the NHL.

>>74112397
Both fragile glass men who need babysitter linemates?

>>74112453
>laffs blowing against Bruins

Are we all forgetting the bruins blew not only a 3-0 series lead, but also a 3-0 game in game 7 lead to Philly in 2010?

>>74112388
yes, but I agree with him that assists are a clear way of telling skill, it's the last pass before the goal, it shows that the player who is credited for it, found the scorer, either with a good pass or breaking away into the zone, you can't be credited with lots of assists just by coincidence, you need ice time and I gather you only get ice time if the coach trusts you. Now secondary assists is just a domino, if you rate them you should credit goalies with points too.

>>74112496
Holy shit I forgot that the bruins also had a 3-0 lead in game 7.

>>74112356
STATS THAT MATTER:
W

stats that don't matter:
All the rest

>>74112537
Wins don't matter that much, a 8-0-74 team makes the playoffs over a 30-40-12 one

STATS THAT MATTER:
number of first overall picks

Stats that don't matter:
All the rest

STATS THAT MATTER
Country of origin of the specific team
USA: Might win a cup
Canda: Won't

>>74112496
That's true, but I was thinking it was the >laffs' first playoff appearance in a number of years. I don't really know much about NFL so I don't know which team the Falcons would be comparable to (inb4 calgary flimflams).

>>74112569
You can thank buttman for this egregious point system.

Wins 3 points
OT win 2 points
OT loss 1 point

>>74112600
Capitals. They are a fairly consistant regular season team, but shit the bed in the playoffs

one goal should be worth 3 goal points
and one primary assist is worth 3 assistpoints
one secondary assist is 1 assispoint
exchange rate for goal points to assist points are 2 to 1
one goal point is 2 pointpoints
and one assist point is 1 pointpoint
then you calculate that to the actual point leaderboards thats listed as pointpoints

thoughts?

>>74112689
sorry a typo

one goal point is worth 2 assistpoints

>>74112689
Ya this might get rid of a lot of players tied at 82 goal points

>>74112689
this hurts my brain to read

http://www.leftwinglock.com/line-production/index.php

Zucker-Koivu-Granlund best line

>>74112689
but why

>>74112537
According to Wins every member of the Finnish ""golden generation"" is a bust. Sounds about right.

>>74112689
>being able to win while scoring less goals
Not really buying it tbf

And what would such a system do to individual efforts? Would teams almost always try to make sure that they have two passes before shooting the puck, and what would that do to the game?

And kind of this -->>>74112785

>>74112788
Good post

“Joe Sakic and Steve Yzerman were both at Anaheim-Florida on Friday, and I’m sure that can’t be a coincidence. And then Anaheim played in Tampa and lost in a shootout on Saturday.

“So we’ve got a situation here where something is up. My curiosity is which one of these Anaheim defensemen are we talking about. And knowing that Colorado has players with term that it’s looking to move, and Tampa has long-term cap issues they need to deal with – I’m thinking this might be a bigger deal. That if they do it with Anaheim, it’s something with a bit more meat to it.

“So I think that’s pretty interesting that both of those guys were there. I’m not convinced if it’s one of those two teams it’s just a Theodore or a Montour. Maybe the word ‘just’ isn’t accurate, but I meant it’s not necessarily one of the smaller pieces. Maybe it’s a bigger piece.

“I think one of the guys it wouldn’t surprise me if they were looking at was Josh Manson, who had a really good game on Friday. But I know the Ducks love him. So I don’t know if it’s something bigger than one of the AHL guys that they’re looking at, but I think it’s pretty interesting that Sakic and Yzerman both took that game in in person.”

>>74112879
The soilers won without scoring any goals yesterday

Why haven't you lot killed obesity collide yet?

They're clogging up /sp/

>>74112906
Yeah, that's bad enough

>>74112879
no this has nothing to do with teampoints

its just for individual points and to weed out the secondaryassistbabbies like mcgaykid

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>>74112929
>mfw McMeme got an assist on the shootout goal yesterday

>>74112929
Just add an additional stat like primary points. You don't need to completely change the point system you sperg.

>>74112929
Oh, I guess it hurt my brain a little too much :/

And I feel it's a little too complicated. Things like this should be really easy to understand.

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>yfwdswtc

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>>74113032
>shoulders wider than hips

what kind of gay-man drew this

I'm Hearing the #Oilers & #TBLighting are working on a deal. Sounds like Brandon Davidson for Brain Boyle could be the moving parts...

>>74113129
Bishop to Edmonton???

>>74113129
Why would the bolts do that?

>>74112652
Too complicated
t.gary

>>74113129
>literally who for literally who

k

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>tfw Boyle accidently blows my knee out in practice and I never play again

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First matthews, now this?

Why does the coming decade look so great for the maple leafs and toronto in general?

can i just go buy my jersey now?

Sebastian Aho is a bust.

Prove me wrong.

>>74113262
He's named rookie of the week

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>mfw Marner gives me a suicide pass and i concussed into retirement while Nylander becomes the next Mats Sundin

>>74113129
pulju for stamkos straight up

>>74112290
There is absolutely nothing wrong with +/- stats for over +20 games and looking at the whole line, it tells us how many goals the line has made over goals that have been made against that line in 5v5. Single game +/- is meaningless though.

>>74113274
I'm talking about the other Sebastian Aho that was ranked ahead of him in the final ranking in euro scouting

>>74113280
>Marner gives me a suicide pass

>marner doesnt even play on the same line or pp unit as him

Can memes not be somewhat grounded in reality?

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>trade away best players
>start losing
>???
>profit

i love my team. you all won't even see it coming. just give us the cup now and save yourself the embarrasment

>>74113331
That Oshie for Brouwer trade was retarded as fuck lmao

>>74113329
It's a eventuality!

>>74113262
>swede

damn right he's a bust

>>74113328
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=67208

What the.

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>>74113331
It's always the same thin whit you Blues, you had it and then lost it.

Every time

>>74103246
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME

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>>74113274
>rookie of the week
>never won rookie of the month

Bust

>>74113274
>budaj gets blown out 5-0
>gets named one of the 3 stars of the month
>listening to NHL x of the y EVER

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>>74113445
>won art ross
>never won the calder

Bust

>>74113421
red.dit

nylander is unironically better than mathews

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>>74113546

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>>74113546
You spelled Marner wrong

>>74113592
>manlet wingers
>ever better than a 1C with size

you have to go back

>>74113546
you spelled Hymen wrong

>>74113640
Connor Brown is better
also he is elite

>>74113631
>Crosby is a manlet
>Crosby is more of a manlet than Marner
Hmmmm, makes me think

>>74113640
>you spelled Hymen wrong
>Hymen

I thought gooks were supposed to be smart

>>74113631
He has more points :)
Also 6ft is not a manlet hes grown a lot since his draft

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>>74113331
It's okay I've come to terms with it and I'll always love them anyway. Who needs a stupid cup anyway?

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>>74113656
>crosgod
>manlet

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>>74113699
>crosgod

>>74113699
>5'11
>king of manlets

>>74113699
>being in manlet-denial
I bet you're 5'11 yourself

>>74113688
>6 ft

He's a manlet, the only well-known player smaller than him is poodreau

>Marner is now one of7 active players who have recorded 30 assists in their first 50 games (Kane, Mcdavid, Crosby, Backstrom, Ovechkin, and Malkin

>Marners stat line is identical to Kanes first season

/hoc/ needs to apologise.

>>74113755
Google is your friend.

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>>74113755

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>>74113712
>>74113717
>blindly following whatever is listed on nhl.com

>>74113656
Crosby is a manlet but he has THICC size to him so it's not as bad.

This week on Laffs delusions:
>Marner is 5'11

>>74113807
>>74113821
the laffs are lying about his height to make themselves feel better about drafting a manlet

what else is new

>>74113832
I have yet to see a source that says something other than 5'11

>>74113835
Still a manlet though

>>74113832
He is 5'11 tho Babcock is 6'1 and there isnt much of a distance
>>74113852
No one is saying that hes 6ft tall its a fact you retard
>>74113856
>hes leading the league in rookie scoring
>hes already an elite level play maker
Why do I care about his height lmfao

>laffs fans actually value manlet wingers who need other players to win their battles

KEK

>>74113835
Sorry. Yes, it's good that he has been able to put on some weight. But as you say yourself, he is a manlet

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>>74113888
>triggered cause he isnt as cute as marner
EL EM EH OH

>anti laffers have to resort to ignoring facts in order to compensate for the reality that the leafs are winning the cup in a couple years

>>74113880
i'd like to see you call crosgod a manlet to his face, he would fucking choke you to death with his thighs

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>tfw 5'3" 240lbs
Wish I could have been a hockey player

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>>74113939
>You will never have a gf with the ass of Godsby

>>74113895
Yeah I'm just saying for Marner it's much worse because he's so thin. If he was stocky the height wouldn't be a large concern.

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Flyers are ELITE

kys everyone else

>>74113939
>crynadian

>>74113953
PHAT KOK
THICC ASH

>>74113887
>hes leading the league in rookie scoring

calder is between matthews or laine, marner is irrelevant to the discussion

hell even werenski or aho have a better chance than marner lmao

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>tfw to enlightened to be a fan of any team other than the Flyers

>>74113956
He put on about 10 pounds of muscle over the summer or some shit he will fill out. He is also really good at not getting into bad situations

>>74113956
That may be true. But I don't really see how that is relevant in a discussion on who is a manlet and who isn't

>>74113983
>10 pounds of muscle in a summer

drug test that kid right now

>>74113977
If Marner finishes the season with more points than either of them it puts him into the conversation.

Hes not a manlet
He is elite
He is cute

Marner is so good guys watch this assist on a backup goalie [embed] the leafs are a contender in the Atlantic praise babcock

>>74113953
>>74113939

does he choke you with his thighs when you suck his dick?

why is it that only homos and manlets like crysby

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>>74113928
>leafs
> win