/cbb/ - College Basketball General

Monday Kenpom Top 50 by Conference

ACC: 10
>Virginia, Louisville, North Carolina, Duke, Florida State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Miami, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech
B12: 8
>West Virginia, Baylor, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, TCU
B10: 7
>Wisconsin, Purdue, Northwestern, Michigan, Indiana, Maryland, Minnesota
BE: 5
>Villanova, Butler, Creighton, Xavier, Marquette
SEC: 5
>Kentucky, Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas
P12: 4
>Arizona, UCLA, Oregon, Utah
Amer: 3
>Cincinnati, SMU, Houston
A10: 3
>Dayton, VCU, Rhode Island
WCC: 2
>Gonzaga, Saint Mary's
MVC: 2
>Wichita State, Illinois State
CUSA: 1
>Middle Tennessee

Biggest Risers: Michigan, Saint Mary's, Miami, Oklahoma State, Clemson, Florida
Biggest Fallers: TCU, Indiana, Florida State, Utah, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Creighton

Dropped: Georgia, UNC Wilmington
Added: Tennessee, Houston

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what's it going to take to get some love lads?

>>73961265
Not blowing it against shitters like Ohio would help.
Also not being second fiddle in your own state would help.
Also not being in a fucking stacked dog-eat-dog conference would help.
Also not having your key noncon win be barely edging out VCU would help.
Also not having one of the bottom 50 scoring rates in all of Division I would help.
Also having more than one tournament win in the past decade would help.

But hey, don't let that stop you or anything.

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>UCLA

What went right wrong?

>Duke consistently taking the dicking
delicious

>>73961330
Being sloppy, especially on defense.

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>>73961323
>But hey, don't let that stop you or anything.
>5-4 in the ACC
>Five more conference wins than most people expected (Us) to have all season
>Three wins over top 15 teams in our stacked dog-eat-dog conference
It doesn't look like it's stopping us to me senpai.

Your list is accurate, but it isn't entirely relevant. We were expected to be one of the worst teams in D1 this season, started out rough but not horrible and have since started playing ball that nobody predicted we were even capable of.

Regardless, I'm not actually upset that we're not getting tons of attention. People have started talking about us, we got a lot of love on Saturday for the Notre Dame win, and most importantly we're playing much better, years earlier than I expected. If we do actually manage to finish out the slate with a record that gets us into any postseason tournament, I'll be giddy as fuck.

>>73961422
There's a difference between being better than people thought and being deserving of respect now, anon. Sure, you're proving people wrong by being a middle of the pack team in the ACC instead of in its basement, but the sad truth is always that nobody cares about teams unless they make the main tournament, which you will likely not get.

You've got more than a decent shot at the NIT though, so cheers to that. Keep on booty blasting the ACC, it's good for everyone to watch.

Monday, January 30th

7:00pm #21 Duke vs. Notre Dame (ESPN)
>9:00pm Oklahoma State vs. Oklahoma (ESPN)

Tuesday, January 31st

7:00pm #22 Creighton vs. Butler (FS1)
7:00pm #17 Maryland vs. Ohio State (ESPN)
7:00pm Pittsburgh vs. North Carolina (ESPN2)
>7:00pm Wake Forest vs. Boston College (ESPNU)
>7:00pm George Washington vs. Rhode Island (CBSSN)
9:00pm #7 West Virginia vs. Iowa State (ESPN2)
9:00pm Georgia vs. Kentucky (ESPN)
9:00pm #10 Wisconsin vs. Illinois (BTN)
>9:00pm Tennessee vs. Auburn (SECN)
>9:00pm Dayton vs. Fordham (CBSSN)

Wednesday, February 1st

>6:30pm Penn State vs. Indiana (BTN)
7:00pm #4 Villanova vs. Providence (FS1)
>7:00pm Alabama vs. Arkansas (SECN)
>7:00pm Georgia Tech vs. Clemson (ACCN)
>7:00pm UCF vs. Houston (ESPNU)
>7:00pm Richmond vs. VCU (CBSSN)
>7:00pm Marquette vs. St John's (FS2)
7:30pm TCU vs. Kansas State (ESPNN)
8:00pm #15 Florida State vs. Miami (ACCN)
8:00pm Virginia Tech vs. Virginia (ACCN)
8:30pm #25 Northwestern vs. Purdue (BTN)
9:00pm #2 Baylor vs. Kansas (ESPN2)
9:00pm #19 South Carolina vs. LSU (SECN)
9:00pm #11 UCLA vs. Washington State (PAC12)
9:00pm #14 Cincinnati vs. Tulsa (CBSSN)
>9:00pm Texas Tech vs. Texas (ESPNU)
>9:00pm Northern Iowa vs. Illinois State (ESPN3)
>9:00pm Seton Hall vs. Xavier (FS1)
>9:30pm East Carolina vs. SMU (ESPNN)

Thursday, February 2nd

7:00pm Missouri vs. Florida (ESPN2)
>8:00pm Middle Tennessee vs. UT San Antonio
9:00pm #5 Arizona vs. Oregon State (ESPN2)
>9:00pm Utah vs. California (PAC12)
11:00pm Arizona State vs. Oregon (FS1)
11:00pm #1 Gonzaga vs. BYU (ESPN2)
11:00pm #18 Saint Mary's vs. Pacific (ESPNU)

Friday, February 3rd

>7:00pm Rhode Island vs. Davidson (ESPN2)

Saturday, February 4th

12:00pm #23 Purdue vs. Maryland (ESPN)
12:00pm #9 Virginia vs. Syracuse (ESPN2)
>12:30pm Duquesne vs. Dayton (NBCSN)
1:00pm Pittsburgh vs. Duke (CBS)
>1:00pm Texas vs. TCU (ESPNN)
2:00pm Iowa State vs. Kansas (ESPN)
2:00pm Georgia vs. South Carolina (ESPN2)
>2:00pm Marquette vs. DePaul (FS1)
3:00pm Kansas State vs. Baylor (ESPNN)
3:00pm Xavier vs. Creighton (FOX)
3:00pm #6 Louisville vs. Boston College (ACCN)
>3:00pm Miami vs. NC State (ACCN)
>3:00pm Georgia Tech vs. Wake Forest (ACCN)
>3:30pm Tennessee vs. Mississippi State (SECN)
4:00pm #5 Arizona vs. Oregon (ESPN)
4:00pm Connecticut vs. Cincinnati (ESPN2)
>4:00pm Minnesota vs. Illinois (BTN)
>4:00pm VCU vs. St Bonaventure (CBSSN)
>4:30pm Utah vs. Stanford (FS1)
5:00pm Oklahoma State vs. West Virginia (ESPNU)
6:00pm #20 Notre Dame vs. North Carolina (ESPN)
>6:00pm Arkansas vs. Missouri (SECN)
>6:00pm Ohio State vs. Michigan (ESPN2)
7:00pm #18 Saint Mary's vs. San Diego
>7:00pm Oklahoma vs. Texas Tech (ESPNU)
>7:00pm SMU vs. Tulsa (ESPNN)
8:00pm St John's vs. Villanova (CBSSN)
>8:00pm Illinois State vs. Wichita St (ESPN2)
>8:00pm Middle Tennessee vs. UTEP
8:15pm #8 Kentucky vs. Florida (ESPN)
10:00pm Santa Clara vs. Gonzaga (ESPN2)
10:30pm #11 UCLA vs. Washington (PAC12)

Sunday, February 5th

12:30pm Clemson vs. Florida State (ESPNU)
1:00pm Indiana vs. Wisconsin (CBS)

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>>73961522
>which you will likely not get
Maybe, maybe not, I don't know whether we can keep this up for the rest of the year but following the Notre Dame game we've finished with the hardest half of our conference schedule. If we win at least four more games, I think our chances of going to the dance are pretty good. I saw this morning that CBS has us projected as an 8 seed, SI has us at a 10.

As far as earning respect goes, we've got a ways to go before we get that back. Between Hewitt's last few years and Gregory's entire tenure, we became a has-been with one or two decent players rotating in and out. By the time Gregory left, anyone with any star power had apparently just gone.

As much as I've enjoyed the recent upsets, the game with Clemson this week will be very telling. If we come out and get bitchslapped by a struggling team, the rest of the season may not be much fun.

>>73961594
Yeah I'm not saying to already count you out, there's a non-zero chance you could make it. I just really don't see it happening with how Februrary usually shakes things up. If you can keep your momentum and put up a good showing in the ACC tournament, it's possible, but too many things can go wrong since it's not always up to your own team whether or not you make it, and you're not that high on the bubble to have much breathing room.

But hey, keep playing like you have been these last 2 weeks, and there's a chance. A slim chance that I wouldn't bet on, but you're not out just yet.

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>>73961639
True on all counts. We've only got three home games remaining out of the eight games left to play, so even if we win out at McCamish, we'll have to steal a couple more on the road. And yeah, the ACC tournament is what'll make or break us for the dance. A .500 finish in the conference combined with one, maybe two wins in the tournament almost certainly gets us selected but losing on day one will drop us to the NIT.

I'm just excited to even be able to toy with the idea of THIS team playing in the postseason. What Pastner has done this year is nothing short of remarkable, no matter how we finish out.

>>73961721
Either way, tournament or not, you're going to have to keep playing at this level for several years for people to take you seriously again. You don't want this season to just be dismissed as a fluke.

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>>73961795
Yep. And I think Pastner is a good coach but he's going to have to bring in better talent than what we've been pulling the last several years. He's bringing the best out of the players we have now but we can't keep doing this with a couple of decent players and the rest of the roster filled with literally whos. But I do feel optimistic about his ability to do that.

USA Today posted a pretty good article this morning about his time in Memphis, the transition to Tech and this season. Worth reading if you're bored and curious.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/acc/2017/01/29/josh-pastner-georgia-tech-ncaa-tournament-hopes/97213934/

>>73961534
>>73961543
Messed up, forgot to add the rankings back in on the home teams, ignore these.

Fixed schedule in the following posts.

Monday, January 30th

7:00pm #21 Duke vs. #20 Notre Dame (ESPN)
>9:00pm Oklahoma State vs. Oklahoma (ESPN)

Tuesday, January 31st

7:00pm #22 Creighton vs. #16 Butler (FS1)
7:00pm #17 Maryland vs. Ohio State (ESPN)
7:00pm Pittsburgh vs. #12 North Carolina (ESPN2)
>7:00pm Wake Forest vs. Boston College (ESPNU)
>7:00pm George Washington vs. Rhode Island (CBSSN)
9:00pm #7 West Virginia vs. Iowa State (ESPN2)
9:00pm Georgia vs. #8 Kentucky (ESPN)
9:00pm #10 Wisconsin vs. Illinois (BTN)
>9:00pm Tennessee vs. Auburn (SECN)
>9:00pm Dayton vs. Fordham (CBSSN)

Wednesday, February 1st

>6:30pm Penn State vs. Indiana (BTN)
7:00pm #4 Villanova vs. Providence (FS1)
>7:00pm Alabama vs. Arkansas (SECN)
>7:00pm Georgia Tech vs. Clemson (ACCN)
>7:00pm UCF vs. Houston (ESPNU)
>7:00pm Richmond vs. VCU (CBSSN)
>7:00pm Marquette vs. St John's (FS2)
7:30pm TCU vs. Kansas State (ESPNN)
8:00pm #15 Florida State vs. Miami (ACCN)
8:00pm Virginia Tech vs. #9 Virginia (ACCN)
8:30pm #25 Northwestern vs. #23 Purdue (BTN)
9:00pm #2 Baylor vs. #3 Kansas (ESPN2)
9:00pm #19 South Carolina vs. LSU (SECN)
9:00pm #11 UCLA vs. Washington State (PAC12)
9:00pm #14 Cincinnati vs. Tulsa (CBSSN)
>9:00pm Texas Tech vs. Texas (ESPNU)
>9:00pm Northern Iowa vs. Illinois State (ESPN3)
>9:00pm Seton Hall vs. Xavier (FS1)
>9:30pm East Carolina vs. SMU (ESPNN)

Thursday, February 2nd

7:00pm Missouri vs. #24 Florida (ESPN2)
>8:00pm Middle Tennessee vs. UT San Antonio
9:00pm #5 Arizona vs. Oregon State (ESPN2)
>9:00pm Utah vs. California (PAC12)
11:00pm Arizona State vs. #13 Oregon (FS1)
11:00pm #1 Gonzaga vs. BYU (ESPN2)
11:00pm #18 Saint Mary's vs. Pacific (ESPNU)

Friday, February 3rd

>7:00pm Rhode Island vs. Davidson (ESPN2)

Saturday, February 4th

12:00pm #23 Purdue vs. #17 Maryland (ESPN)
12:00pm #9 Virginia vs. Syracuse (ESPN2)
>12:30pm Duquesne vs. Dayton (NBCSN)
1:00pm Pittsburgh vs. #21 Duke (CBS)
>1:00pm Texas vs. TCU (ESPNN)
2:00pm Iowa State vs. #3 Kansas (ESPN)
2:00pm Georgia vs. #19 South Carolina (ESPN2)
>2:00pm Marquette vs. DePaul (FS1)
3:00pm Kansas State vs. #2 Baylor (ESPNN)
3:00pm Xavier vs. #22 Creighton (FOX)
3:00pm #6 Louisville vs. Boston College (ACCN)
>3:00pm Miami vs. NC State (ACCN)
>3:00pm Georgia Tech vs. Wake Forest (ACCN)
>3:30pm Tennessee vs. Mississippi State (SECN)
4:00pm #5 Arizona vs. #13 Oregon (ESPN)
4:00pm Connecticut vs. #14 Cincinnati (ESPN2)
>4:00pm Minnesota vs. Illinois (BTN)
>4:00pm VCU vs. St Bonaventure (CBSSN)
>4:30pm Utah vs. Stanford (FS1)
5:00pm Oklahoma State vs. #7 West Virginia (ESPNU)
6:00pm #20 Notre Dame vs. #12 North Carolina (ESPN)
>6:00pm Arkansas vs. Missouri (SECN)
>6:00pm Ohio State vs. Michigan (ESPN2)
7:00pm #18 Saint Mary's vs. San Diego
>7:00pm Oklahoma vs. Texas Tech (ESPNU)
>7:00pm SMU vs. Tulsa (ESPNN)
8:00pm St John's vs. #4 Villanova (CBSSN)
>8:00pm Illinois State vs. Wichita St (ESPN2)
>8:00pm Middle Tennessee vs. UTEP
8:15pm #8 Kentucky vs. #24 Florida (ESPN)
10:00pm Santa Clara vs. #1 Gonzaga (ESPN2)
10:30pm #11 UCLA vs. Washington (PAC12)

Sunday, February 5th

12:30pm Clemson vs. #15 Florida State (ESPNU)
1:00pm Indiana vs. #10 Wisconsin (CBS)

>>73963008
Bless you anon.

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1) This thread is based.

2) Thanks to OP

3) WTF happened to old thread, I better not find out we were bumped off by TENNIS.

4) ZAGS

>>73963818
pro bowl

Where the fuck is >sneak? I thought he said he was going to do weekly bubble watch updates

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I found this picture in my school's guide under pro players

Isn't this a little insulting considering he's the other guy in this picture, not Kobe?

Don't really follow much of NCAAB. Do people basically not give a shit about the AP polls during the regular season? Is there some reason why Kansas got jumped by Gonzaga after beating a top 5 team on the road? Not trying to shitpost, just confused.

>>73964653
Maybe not, "touched Kobe once" is probably the best thing on his resume.

>>73964711
They lot to west virginia last tuesday, teams often play more than once a week so you need to win multiple times to not lose spots in the rankings.

>drop to 8th after two straight losses

Not so bad.

>>73964823
It was a fucking crazy week, you're lucky that you didn't drop further.

I really hope duke loses and falls out of the top 25

>>73964823
Gonna drop more when the Gators bust yo ass.

>>73965034
I'd laugh too, though mainly because Notre Dame hasn't been in the conference long enough for me to hate them as much as I hate Duke.

>>73965061
How sad is it that we're both still on here?

>>73965090
RIPIP ghost phog

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Duke is going to break this open at some point. ND is wasting too much.

>>73963993

I'm working on a statistical bubble model atm. Not sure I'll have time to do weekly updates or anything, but once I get things a little more developed I might do some leading up to Selection Sunday.

>>73965173
Furthermore, 73-51 will be the final score.

>>73961898
I realy hope you make the post season, Georgia Tech anon. Definitely my favorite team in the ACC along with louisville

>>73965323
>leading up to selection sunday
>not throughout february
whats the point then

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>>73965620
Thanks my dude <3. My attempts to keep my enthusiasm tempered died when Okogie sunk the Irish, though I've managed to stay firmly enough in reality that I'll still be ecstatic for an NIT bid. If we do keep this up through February, we can be a dangerous draw for anyone in March. Excited as hell to see how we progress.

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll


>ZAGS
>A
>G
>S

>>73965626

We'll see. I have done bubble watches in the past when 8 Ball was no show, but I was just using intuition instead of actual numbers, which is what I'm trying to do more of now. Also it takes a surprisingly long amount of time to throw all that shit together in paint. imo /cbb/ OPs should just include a link to the Bracket Matrix for bubble purposes if no one's going to do it. It's a pretty good gauge of the situation.

But for a conversation starter here's a quick ranking of 16 bubble teams from my working model. It's still very much a work in progress, so don't take it too seriously.

IN
VCU 5.11
Wake Forest 4.51
Seton Hall 4.17
Oklahoma State 4.02
California 3.76
Clemson 2.62
Wichita State 2.36
Michigan State 1.93
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OUT
Georgia Tech 1.79
Tennessee 1.36
Miami 1.24
Texas Tech 1.20
Utah -.12
NC State -.13
Pittsburgh -.37
Michigan -.78

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>>73966440
>IN
>Clemson
wew

>>73966504
does Clemson have any quality wins this season?

SCar without Sindarius doesn't count

man Oklahoma State sets a ton of moving screens, every time the defender goes under the screen the screener always conveniently times his "roll" to wipe out the defender.

>>73966907

Along with USC, UNC Wilmington and Wake gives them 3 top 50 RPI wins. Not really quality, but it makes their resume look good.

Oklahoma has to be the dumbest fucking team in Division I

Lets go pokes!

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Let's go cats!

I'm ready to get a good seed for march and then buster out game 1.

>>73967199
>not just grouping all the Big 12 teams together

>ZAGS
>A
>G
>S

>The Mountaineers own five top-50 KenPom wins - including victories over Baylor, Kansas and Virginia. They're one of only three teams with a top-15 adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency rating.

Brah. I've spent my whole life as a WVU fan. This year im actually feeling it. Took Bob a couple years to get players and figure out a plan for the big 12. It might just be time. Im worried about this town though. It will be burnt to the ground win a national championship is won.

SUCK IT ZERO U!

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Ladies and gentlemen, may I present: the next number 1 pick from Europe

>>73968952

He's really good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. This draft class is so loaded.

>>73968952
>Not even the best player in his team
>First pick
Pick one

>>73969315
Good one! Who's the best player on the team then, if not Nowitzki-on-steroids?

Tuesday, January 31st

7:00pm #22 Creighton vs. #16 Butler (FS1)
7:00pm #17 Maryland vs. Ohio State (ESPN)
7:00pm Pittsburgh vs. #12 North Carolina (ESPN2)
>7:00pm Wake Forest vs. Boston College (ESPNU)
>7:00pm George Washington vs. Rhode Island (CBSSN)
9:00pm #7 West Virginia vs. Iowa State (ESPN2)
9:00pm Georgia vs. #8 Kentucky (ESPN)
9:00pm #10 Wisconsin vs. Illinois (BTN)
>9:00pm Tennessee vs. Auburn (SECN)
>9:00pm Dayton vs. Fordham (CBSSN)

>>73963950
Man, fuck the Pro Bowl.

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HAY GUISE

HOW BOUT THAT AP POLL

>>73970496
I don't even know where the fuck gonzaga is, that's how irrelevant it is. Some hick town in nebraska or something? Better hope you never stop making the tournament or else your entire town's economy will collapse.

>>73969233
diaper dandies baby

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>starting in 5

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>>73970496
It literally took longer for you type that post than it would have just been to type "Gonzaga" into Google search.

>TUESDAY NIGHT

Get lit. familia.

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Member a few days ago, that story that was published incriminating five KU basketball players in the rape of a 16 year old girl? The article stated that the players were being processed as WITNESSES to this rape. However, I have received insider information that 1 of the 5 players was actually the one who committed this horrendous act.

That player is future lottery pick Josh Jackson. I’m not sure when the news will officially break. I’ve heard rumors of very high-profile legal teams being contacted to work this case.

Pic related. It's the KU athletic program in a few days.

Akron just came back from a 47-33 deficit at the end of the first

>>73979445
I want to believe

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Why does no one post about us, sp?

Why did Kentucky almost lose again at home...

>>73979445
Mizzou fan here, pls be true I need this

>>73981553
Fox was out. Also Georgia played their asses off. Still a super shitty game. Needing "fight" to beat a mediocre to bad Georgia team is not a good sign.

>tfw four weeks to March Madness

If we can avoid nuclear holocaust, it'll be pretty great.

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Morning /sp/.

>ZAGS
>A
>G
>S

>>73980638
cause you play boring muh points per possession ball with no flair so even when you win its not exciting

people want to watch flavor, while you guys are just sour cream. so fucking white

>>73985148
>feeding the B1G trolls

Wednesday, February 1st

>6:30pm Penn State vs. Indiana (BTN)
7:00pm #4 Villanova vs. Providence (FS1)
>7:00pm Alabama vs. Arkansas (SECN)
>7:00pm Georgia Tech vs. Clemson (ACCN)
>7:00pm UCF vs. Houston (ESPNU)
>7:00pm Richmond vs. VCU (CBSSN)
>7:00pm Marquette vs. St John's (FS2)
7:30pm TCU vs. Kansas State (ESPNN)
8:00pm #15 Florida State vs. Miami (ACCN)
8:00pm Virginia Tech vs. #9 Virginia (ACCN)
8:30pm #25 Northwestern vs. #23 Purdue (BTN)
9:00pm #2 Baylor vs. #3 Kansas (ESPN2)
9:00pm #19 South Carolina vs. LSU (SECN)
9:00pm #11 UCLA vs. Washington State (PAC12)
9:00pm #14 Cincinnati vs. Tulsa (CBSSN)
>9:00pm Texas Tech vs. Texas (ESPNU)
>9:00pm Northern Iowa vs. Illinois State (ESPN3)
>9:00pm Seton Hall vs. Xavier (FS1)
>9:30pm East Carolina vs. SMU (ESPNN)

>>73979445
>people will believe this

>>73989066
would be nice if true. not just because fuck kansas but our thread having an insider would be great

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Tip vs. Clemson in half an hour. I don't have a great feeling about this one.

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>Wes Durham calling the game on FSS
how do I stop these continuous orgasms lads?

>>73991136
Give ypur energy to GA Tech \o/

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>>73992098
Bless you anon. In particular, send the vibes to Okogie. Dude can play like an All-American some nights and a Mercer reject on others. Too much of the latter in the first half.

>>73992098
Fuck you
We need this win more desperately than Tech does

>>73992316
lolwut. How do you figure? Clemson lost six straight ACC games and was still being projected to get into the tournament ahead of us, even after our third top 15 upset. And after we'd beaten you. You're going to win this game but we needed it every bit as much as you did, more I'd say.

>>73990097
what if i told you im an insider and thats why i know its false

>>73992379
1. We haven't won a conference home game
2. We'd be 2-7 with a loss. No fucking chance to get to .500
3. We don't have a good ranked win since the Gamecucks had their best player out
Our decent non-conference won't overcome a 6-12 conference record

>>73992446
You came runner up in the NIT last year didnt you? Why dont you give that a try again, Clemson?

>>73992491
We didn't make the NIT last year you faggot
We've made a postseason tournament once in the last 5 years and that was 3 years ago

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>>73992446
You know what? You're right. I wasn't thinking about our remaining schedule, which is easier than the league games we've already finished, and probably easier than your remaining slate since you've still got Duke and two games with FSU. Though if we're going to play like we did tonight, we may as well be playing NBA teams.

Point made, Clemsonbro. Good win for you tonight, I'll be pulling for you to get your shit together and go dancing.

Ben Lammers is a beast. Dude doesn't quit on a play, doesn't quit on a game. If Okogie and Jackson get their heads out of their asses and start playing with a bit more consistency, we can avoid getting BTFO like this again.

>>73992518
What the fuck
I legitimately dont know why I believed that.

Well then it would be a good benchmark for the Clemsom team to make the NIT! I dont know why you'd be upset

How badly has football fucked up basketball?
Look at how big of a mess the ACC is right now

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>>73992597
Best mess in the nation tho

>>73992591
Why aim for the NIT when we can go to big tourney?
Besides we went to 4 straight tourneys without winning a first round game

Although I understand why we'd settle for the NIT considering we stormed the court when we beat Belmont last time we were in it

>OT game between NIT teams is blocking a top 5 matchup

pretty gay

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WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?
DON'T FUCK THIS UP CLEMSON

>vtale calling the ku game

for what purpose

>>73992761
If Stephens had stopped trying to shoot threes when he is flat fucking cold, the comeback might have actually gotten interesting.

poosiers pls lose let me watch good teams play

Die Cinci Die

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gg Clemson

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>>73992869
FUCK YOU NERDS

>students want to chant rape stuff at baylor
>cant because some retard raped a minor on campus

rapists ruin everything

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>>73992892
Or.. that. Whatever, split the series and even with the loss tonight we've got more to be happy about this year than you do. Good luck down the stretch, you fucking redneck.

>Clemson ecstatic about beating a mid market team at home

This team wants to play in the NCAA tournament?

>>73992940
every team wants to play in the tournament you mong

>Cincinnati

You came to the wrong court today

>>73992940
1. First conference win at the newly renovated arena
2. We've slowly climbing from 1-6
3. FUCK GEORGIA TECH. ALL THOSE FUCKERS DO IS TROLL US

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Hawks are getting BTFO again so I guess I'm switching to the Baylor-KU game early.

>>73992976
Yeah, but 99.9% of Clemson fans aren't whiny little bitches. You'd be hard pressed to find a more bro-rivalry in college athletics, I love hosting them in Atlanta. But every fanbase has its retarded children, and one or two of them are bound to find their way to /sp/ I guess.

>>73993009
I'm pretty sure every fanbase complements our fanbase for our treatment of opposing fans
So you're nothing special when it comes to that
However, given how many times you've fucked us over you're lucky it's not more heated than it is

>baylor has some 7' nigga from africa that can shoot 3s

jfc why

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>>73993036
>lucky
>Tech leads all-time football series 50-29-2
Only if you say so love.

i think baylor has traveled 5 times in the first half

scott drew is a shit coach. ku will win

Are there any actually good teams this year?

>>73993133
Most of those games were in Atlanta
It's like 18-17 or something since you joined the ACC and actually came to Clemson to play

Also not what I meant

>>73993227
define good

>>73993227
creighton was great until their assist leading pg got injured.

Josh Jackson looks good desu

>>73993340
he can do everything but shoot

>Needing "fight" to beat a mediocre to bad Georgia team is not a good sign.

I'll be impressed if UK makes it to the Sweet 16

>>73993227
wvu

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>>73993243
Aye, because by the time Clemson started becoming a relevant football program we had already won 2 of our 4 national titles, and added another 2 afterwards. You're welcome to compare that total to your own.

I like Clemson. Great fans, we have a great rivalry, the games are excellent more often than not, I was happy as hell for my Clemsonbros to see them win it all this year. But unless you want to flaunt your last couple of wins against us, you don't have a god damn thing you can say to any Georgia Tech fan.

The football angle isn't going to work out the way you hoped, but we're in /cbb/ so maybe you'd like to try with basketball instead? After all, you did just avoid dropping both games against a Tech team predicted to be the worst in the conference and one of the worst in the country, even staving off our comeback attempt after we played one of our worst games of the year.

>>73993354
>he can do everything but shoot
Nothing that can't be fixed. I mean, De'Aaron Fox is an even worse shooter, but a good shooting coach can fix that. Depends who picks them up

Dick Vitale is such a shit commentator. Why does he still have a job?

>>73993422
yeah and jackson's shot is improving every game. his form is ugly af tho

>>73993476
you are asking why a company that employs stephen a smith and jemele hill decides to employ dick vitale as well?

>Gaylor in charge of not collapsing

>>73993507
Well, they can't fire those niggers because quotas

>>73993383
I don't really see your point here
The "heated" part kinda flew over your head I think

>>73993535
they also created the cancer that is skip bayless, colin cowherd, jim rome, chris berman, etc

>>73993383
Dont waste your time with the Clemson fans my friend

>>73993507
>stephen a smith
Jesus Christ, I hate this fucking faggot to death

>>73993481
Wanted to say that I've checked some draft projections, but then I realised the bottom of the league (aside from Nets) is pretty even so God knows where he'll end up next season

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Okay, so we sit at 13-9 (5-5)

>Remaining Schedule
at Wake Forest
Boston College
at Miami
Syracuse
NC State
at Notre Dame
at Pittsburgh
at Syracuse

I think it's feasible for us to win our three remaining home games, but we're not going to win at Notre Dame. I think we can snatch a win or two from the other road games, which puts us in solid position for an NIT bid and I'll be happy as fuck. If we can do all that and win a game in the ACCT, we may very well end up dancing, at which point my problem will be surviving the earth-shattering orgasm that follows.

I'm excited as hell about our future with Pastner, regardless of how things end up this year. I really can't get over what he's done with our team this year, it's nothing short of remarkable.

imagine rooting for a team that is happy to make the NIT

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>>73993541
No, I definitely got it. My point is that if you're going to act like a 13 year old cunt, maybe try it with a team who hasn't historically dominated you and ruined more potential national title runs than you have won championships.

>>73993604
Most of them really are cool dudes, Clemson fans are almost always fun to talk college sports with. This one just seems considerably more autistic than the hundreds/thousands I've met.

>>73993702
It happens to the best of us, most especially when one of your two previous coaches squandered good talent and made off with a fucking lifetime contract and the other left the cupboard bare and then stole the cupboard door. I believe we'll be in the dance regularly under Pastner but we've got to build first. Fortunately, we are much further ahead of schedule than anyone, including me, expected us to be.

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>>73993702
>tfw your team stormed the court after a NIT win
I think we might have done it twice

>>73993481
>>73993507
I'm pissed they fired and forcefully retire Brent Musberger

They are no college football/basketball commentator who have passion and heart to their job.

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>>73993769
>It happens to the best of us

Why is Cincis head coach such a douche?

>>73993815
Wes Durham fits that bill, though I think he only calls southeastern regional broadcasts. Does Brad Nessler still do basketball? Always enjoyed him, but I can't remember the last time I heard him call a shootyhoops game.

>>73993702
Its called being a fan of a florida school outside of florida

>>73993815
>They are no college football/basketball commentator who have passion and heart to their job.

The only reason I watch Pac12 games is for bill walton

>>73993869
florida gulf coast was fly af

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>>73993840
kek yeah, poorly worded. Not the case for elite programs, but we're not an elite program. Soon, though, I believe.

>>73993891
yeah florida gulf coast is getting to the point of being a good mid major powerhouse

>>73993769
When I said "heated" I meant between fans because every loss to you seems like a painful heartjerker especially the last 15 years Tech would have been the favorite like 3 times
This also applies to basketball
Remember we had double digit leads against you last year away and at the ACC tourney and we lost both games in overtime
That first loss killed our NCAA hopes and the second one knocked us out if the NIT
So beating you is more satisfaction of avoiding another humiliating loss than anything

And you do realize that Boston College fans, the ones who exist, basically feel the same way? Like one of the booster groups give a trophy because we were so nice to them

>>73993905
theyre in one of those 15/16 seed conferences so they could be that first 16/1 upset one day

>>73993857
>Does Brad Nessler still do basketball?
He jumped to CBS, he's doing college basketball and has replace Verne to do SEC on CBS next season

this is where scott drew will kill his team's chances of winning

>>73993942
men I really wished they found some way to get gus johnson to do the ncaa tournament again

>>73993985
Seriously
Fox lets Rafferty do the final four but can't let Gus Johnson do first round games?

>>73993985
>>73994016
Gus is shit

Who /cuse/ here?

Sorry Gillon went in without lube NCSU

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>GAYLOR

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>>73993914
Yes, and Woodrow Dantzler has been running up and down Grant Field untouched for the last 16 years but it doesn't make me want to act like a douche to a fanbase I've had great times with.

A BC fan wouldn't know the difference between a Clemson fan who sucked him off and one who shot him in the balls. Clemson generally has a good reputation as fanbases go, but if you're unaware of the fact that there's a different relationship between Tech and Clemson fans - even as you describe all the heartbreak that bro-ship has endured on both sides - as opposed to other fanbases, then it's due to inexperience or ignorance on your part.

I dunno, I give up. Congrats on the win, good luck with the rest of your slate. Maybe we'll see you again in Brookyln.

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>tfw just won the Big 12

Scott drew does it again hahaha

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>based KU out here bringing SPROT justice to rapists

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>scott drew has more losses at afh than bill self

>>73994055
But see that's just one game
And you haven't been the favorite most games either

I'm not sure why you idolize Clemson fans but everyone I've ever known doesn't really give a fuck about Tech

>>73994022
so edgy

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>Kansas still won't be ranked #1

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>>73994089
>hates us for breaking their hearts all the time
>doesn't give a fuck about us
ok

>>73994105
How is that edgy? Yelling incoherently and bad catchphrases does not make one a good commentator.

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>The city of Holly Rowe

>>73994114
they play better when they arent #1

>>73994115
I was talking about your fanbase. There is no special relationship between out fanbases

Pretty sure the general consensus is that we don't have a broship with anyone really.

I am pretty sure that most Clemson fans look down to Tech than see them as equals and that was true before Tech installed the service academy offense

>>73994127
His energy is what those first rounds are about

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>>73994176
>There is no special relationship between our fanbases.
So yes, ignorance and inexperience. The conversations you've had with your friends in Algebra at Alexander H. Stephens Memorial High School don't count as "general consensus." I've been going to games and tailgating with ACC school fans my entire life and I know better, but believe whatever you want, it makes no difference to me.

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You may only reply to this if your team is currently in the AP top 10 for both basketball and football.

Not so fast, any other school in the nation.

>>73994245
I'm not sure about what it's like in Atlanta. But since we occupy half your stadium maybe it feels different for you
Here in Clemson there's no real difference in the atmosphere between Georgia Tech and a random Sun Belt team
The only time it ever changes is for Florida State and the Gamecucks

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>>73994299
You're not the boss of me.

>>73993970
You're not wrong. I've seen this story before. Drew will almost always let them play on and bungle together a desparate AAC-type runaround ending in an unforced turnover rather than call the timeout they have, sit them down and coach up a proper play to get the best 3-pt shot they can get.

He recruits great talent. He doesn't coach them up to that expectation against big teams in big moments in big games. The kinds of teams they will have to beat to make a Final Four. The kinds of teams like Duke in 2010 and Kentucky in 2012 who denied them the Final Four. The kinds of teams they haven't got to see in the postseason dropping round-one games to Georgia State and Yale. They're a tough bunch. They can come back on almost anyone (they only sort of did at Kansas and did not at all at WVU).

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>>73994299
I DO WHAT I WANT (yes, what, not who, you filthy-minded armchair coaches)

>>73994422
Yeah but who, too.

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>meanwhile in normal Illinois
Illinois state: we will have this streak. WITCHITA, COME AT US

>>73994462
Too bad you wasted your interesting name athlete on football

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This post lovingly dedicated to the PAC-12 on behalf of east coast sports nerd insomniacs who aren't ready to be done watching sports at midnight.

Thanks, PAC-12. Thac-12.

>>73994386
He should learn how to coach a man defense

>>73994386

>he recruits great talent

This is a meme. Drew develops great talent, he's not getting a bunch of 5 star players.

west coast best coast

>>73996613
YEAH BUDDY

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Thursday, February 2nd

7:00pm Missouri vs. Florida (ESPN2)
>8:00pm Middle Tennessee vs. UT San Antonio
9:00pm #5 Arizona vs. Oregon State (ESPN2)
>9:00pm Utah vs. California (PAC12)
11:00pm Arizona State vs. Oregon (FS1)
11:00pm #1 Gonzaga vs. BYU (ESPN2)
11:00pm #18 Saint Mary's vs. Pacific (ESPNU)

>>73997247
>UM v UF on TV
>MTSU v UTSA not on TV

It's like they don't even recognize a good match-up when they see one.

>nothing til tonight

it's almost like it's a weekday

>>73997697
Thats a pretty good point

>wanting to watch Mizzou get the shit kicked out of it instead of a closer, equal level game

I could understand if it was on the SECN instead of ESPN, but really?

>>73997247
Calling a BYU upset of the Zags tonight.

>captcha: CALLE CALLE
This shit is just fucking with me now.

REEEEEE WHY ISNT AKRON RANKED

>>73998866
>ZAGS
>A
>G
>S

>>73998866
Why should it be?

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GET HYPE THO

>>73998494
BYU is barely even D-I basketball and their players are all virgins.

I vote no.

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The GOAT is back. Prepare your anus Pittsburgh.

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OHAI GUISE

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Who's stopping us, bros?

>>74004908
Butler. Gonzaga. Maybe Nova.

> Z A G S
> A
> G
> S

>>74004990
We would /not/ lose to either of those teams if we played again. This is fact.

We'd probably beat Nova.

How in the fuck do the zags fucking do it? Such a small school, I live in Washington and couldn't tell you where the fuck it is. That being said, chokers choke, zags end in like the huskies

>>74006141
enjoy your sweet 16

>>74006178
No, that was an honest to god question, don't get to catch many games, I get their tempo is hard to keep up with, but are they that good?

>>74006242

They're really good and really deep. It's like watching a European pro team. It's hard to say if they'll be able to take on a team with NBA players, but they've beaten some decent teams already.

>>74004771
sup

Friday, February 3rd

>7:00pm Rhode Island vs. Davidson (ESPN2)

...... fuckin' friday

>>74009617
Saturday is lit, famalama.

What happened to this guy?
>>73998494

ZAGS
A
G
S

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still a shit logo desu

>>74011158
Are going to disappoint as always.
Why even get so hype knowing you're going to lose to a decent team from a power conference in round of 16?

>>74011329
Yes. You're right.

*not jinxing it*

>>74011337
Only once has Mark few made the elite 8 and he met Duke and got btfo.

Gonzaga has been a top 4 seed 6 times under him and everytime they have have gotten btfo by real teams(Duke, UNC, UCLA) or beaten by meme teams (Texas Tech, Nevada, Wichita state)

I hate how ESPN hypes up every good Gonzaga team and says "Is Gonzaga legit this year?, Are they the real deal?" "Yes!".

The answer is fucking no, they need to switch to the pac12 if they ever want to be taken seriously.

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>>73968572
WVU athletics has taught me over the years to never be optimistic. This team is solid though. A lot of good roleplayers and nice depth. We need to keep Carter healthy. That guys is all over the court all the time. I'm a little worried he might get a nagging injury like Staten did.

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>>74011493
What they need to do to be taken seriously is WIN.

>>74011666
*win in the tourney
Fixed

>>74011493

Same thing was true about Wisconsin and Villanova a couple years ago.

>>74012455
Difference is they proved the doubters wrong and now have earned some respect. Unlike Gonzaga. Well Villanova earned respect, Wisconsin had their one good run but are going back into mediocrity with Bo Ryan gone.

>>74012584
not that guy but I think the point is that this gonzaga team has the best chance to actually live up to their hype this time instead of choking, they're set up to win more than their teams in the past

>>74011493
I don't disagree with you about gonzaga, but just for a reality check, those "real teams" also get knocked out by meme teams commonly

>>74012759
Yeah I haven't heard that one before

>>74012770
Those real teams make final fours commonly

>>74012934
You've heard the "23-0 and likely to still be undefeated when the tournament comes" one before? I'm not saying that they're the favorites, but they're clearly better now than they've ever been. They could still choke but this is their best shot. If they don't do it now though, how good would they even have to be to finally make it?

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>>74011804
WHICH THEY WILL ALSO DO

>ZAGS

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>>73961064
we mid major now senpai

got tickets to all six games in Milwaukee
anybody else going to the tournament? I don't know if I can watch live basketball for 12 straight hours lol

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>>73961060
fuck gonzaga
they dont even know how to pronounce their own name

>>74012964
>You've heard the "23-0 and likely to still be undefeated when the tournament comes" one before?

Yeah when Kentucky did it a couple years ago.

They need to play in a real conference so they don't play nothing but scrubs up until the tourney. Sure they beat some good teams before conference play, but that's early in the season and those teams will be getting better by playing
tough competition in their power conference while Zags play bad teams and don't improve as much.
This is why Gonzaga always disappoints come tourney time.

>>74015572
I'm sure they'll win at least 2 games

BRING IT ON, SATTADAY

Rankings shakeup or nah

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>HUSKIES

>>74018661
just the usual, one or two meh ranked losses but nothing crazy

>>74018869
>ranked losses

Well certainly not the
ZAGS
A
G
S

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Where my mid-major teams at?

ETSU represent. We got the SOCON on lock and gonna make a 2,3,or 4 seed have a bad day come tourney time. Watch out.

Where's Gameday today?

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>>74019043
getem

>>74019154
Never heard of you.

>>74019232
how young