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OFFICIAL WHO IS ACTUALLY GOAT THREAD

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Confirmed GOATS:

Auto racing in general = Graham Hill
Baseball = Babe Ruth
Basketball = Michael Jordan
Biathlon = Ole Einar Bjorndalen
Billiards = Efren Reyes
Bodybuilding = Arnold Schwarzenegger
Bowling = Walter Ray Williams Jr
Boxing Featherweight = Willie Pep
Boxing Lightweight = Roberto Duran
Boxing Welterweight= Sugar Ray Robinson
Boxing MiddleWeight = Marvin Hagler
Boxing Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Cricket = Don Bradman
Cross-country skiing: Björn Dæhlie
Cycling = Eddy Merckx
Darts = Phil Taylor
F1 = Michael Schumacher
Field Hockey = Teun De Nooijer
Football = Maradona
Golf = Jack Nicklaus
Handball = Ivano Balic
Hockey = Wayne Gretzky
Horse racing = Frankel
Javelin = Andreas Thorkildsen
Kickboxing = Giorgio Petrosy
Lacrosse = Gary Gait
MMA = Anderson Silva
Moto GP = Valentino Rossi
NASCAR = Dale Earnhardt
Netball = Irene Van Dyk
NFL = Jerry Rice
Olympic Lifting = Naim Suleymangolu
Powerlifting = Ed Coan
Racquetball = Sudsy Monchik
Rally = Sebastian Loeb
Rowing = Sir Steve Redgrave
Rugby = Gareth Edwards
Sailing = Ben Ainslie
Ski Jumping: Adam Malysz
Snooker = Ronnie O'Sullivan
Sprinting = Usain Bolt
Strongman = Mariusz Pudzianowski.
Superbikes = Carl Fogarty
Swimming = Michael Phelps
Tennis = Roger Federer
Wheelchair Tennis = Esther Vergeer
Wrestling = Aleksandr Karelin
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>F1 = Michael Schumacher
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>>73942533
>Football - Maradona
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>>73942561
Who else?
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>>73942533
>These dumb ass casual niggas keep falling for the Ali meme

kek
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Where's Brady?
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> Swimming
> Michael Phelps
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>>73942651
Hes the greatest QB, he's not the greatest player.
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>maradona over messi
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>>73942533
>Tennis = Roger Federer
*Novak Djokovic
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>Don Bradman
Don Brad"man" was a war dodger who statpadded against amateurs because all the good players died in WWII.

He also had Douglas Jardine's name ruined for eternity because he couldn't handle Harold Larwood's 125kph "chin music"
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>>73942533
good list but I unironically think Messi is the true GOAT

he's the only player I've ever watched that has made me literally gasp
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>>73942533
Confirmed by whom and where?
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Chess: Bobby Fischer
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>>73942804
>2600 ELO
>GOAT
lmao
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>>73942621
>These dumb ass casual niggas keep falling for the Marciano meme
kek
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>>73942821
>2600 ELO
>the city of you
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>>73942826
>unironically lost to a guy with 50+ losses
>GOAT

Nice meme

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireman_Jim_Flynn
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> There are people who seriously think Nicklaus is better than Tiger Woods
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>>73942804
Wasn't even naturally good at chess, he just had autism. Garry Kasparov is the greatest of all time.
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Alpine skiing = Franz Klammer
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>Kickboxing = Giorgio Petrosy
it's Petrosyan
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>>73942917
>greatest of all time
>didn't play the best moves possible for the highest percentage of time
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>>73942721
Gay as fuck
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>Darts: Phil Taylor

LMAO van Gerwen is steamboating all his records already
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>>73943621
says the guy who automatically thinks of buttsex when he reads an innocent sentence
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>>73942609
Not Cheatmacher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfHTsaP4hQg&t=1s
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>>73942533
Only undisputable GOATS on that list are

Arnold
Phelps
Bolt
O'Sullivan

Also
>No Julio Cesar Chavez
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Ali wasn't even the best heavyweight of his generation
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>Baseball
>Babe Ruth

He might have been a hell of a home run hitter, but Willie Mays had more tools as a baseball player than Ruth ever did.

Stick to sports you actually watch anon
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>>73942533
>Give five categories for boxing
>Only one for sprinting
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>>73943628

>LMAO van Gerwen is steamboating all his records already

Good luck with that
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>>73942533
>Ski Jumping: Adam Malysz
Really? I recall him being a midfield type of athlete from when I was watching.
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>>73943934
This.
Babe Ruth was like an okay pitcher. May's could hit and flat out shut you down fielding. Like a black hole he sucked in shots no one else could.
OP also missed real football
>Consensus was Jerry Rice on the NFL countdown
I love me some Jerry but if Brady wins again it'll be hard to compete with a starting QB with passing records and 5 rings. There should also be a D player here like co captains. Deion Sanders? Mike singletary? Mean Joe? Deacon Jones? Idk it's hard to choose on defense because of how different the eras were and I'm not sure how much to weigh in championships for them.
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>>73942533
>the goat
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>>73942533
had you said football: pele, you wouldve gotten away with the list
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>>73942804
>chess
>relevant
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>>73942533
>NFL = Jerry Rice

retarded bongistani
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>>73943851
Nah Gretzky is probably the GOATest GOAT of all, there is nobody else in any major sport who is THIS far ahead of anybody else who has ever played the game.
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>IndyCar = Rick Mears
Now your list is done
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Fun fact about Wayne Gretzky, he and his brother Brent have the NHL record for most points scored by two brothers combined at 2861.

Wayne scored 2857 points and Brent scored 4.
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>>73942887
fuck off phone shitter
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The thinking man's choices:

Ayrton Senna
Manny Pacquiao
Leo Messi
Red Rum
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>>73944485
>Manny Pacquiao

No that's just the idiot's choice.
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Table tennis: Jan-Ove Waldner

The man who tore down the great wall of China.
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>>73942621
>brings up Marciano
That's the biggest red flag YOU are the casual.
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Petrosyan is good but the GOAT? Are you Armenian by any chance? Should be Sem Schilt based on accomplishments, although I like Bonjasky way more.
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>>73943851
the cricket guy and Gretzky are the only undisputable ones
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>>73943851
Chavez is no where near a GOAT also

>Willie Pep
top 5 but Saddler gets the nod before him
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>Basketball: Michael Jordan
>not Joel Embiid
poor list, try again
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>>73943851
JCC is Mexican goat. But not GOAT GOAT
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>>73944569
>Should be Sem Schilt based on accomplishments
this is wrong. Sem Schilt might have more GPs under his belt (4x K-1 + Glory Grand Slam) but Petrosyan cleaned out everyone @ 70kgs.
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>>73942533
Is this the worst /sp/ has ever been? Even the shitposting and bait threads are garbage now
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>>73944915

>being so new you dont recognise old pasta

kek yeah keep complaing about how 'old' /sp/ was better. You wern't even around then
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>>73942533
Javelin is Jan Zelezny tho
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bodybuilding is not a sport
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>>73942533
>NFL = Jerry Rice
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>>73942533
>MMA = Anderson Silva
>Boxing Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Both were relics of their time especially Silva.
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>>73945317

Not even the best QB ever, let along NFL player.
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>>73945400
You could not be more wrong.

You could try, but you would not be successful.
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>>73942917
>Kasparov
>GOAT
>had to use bush league tactics and intimidation against a prepubescent Carlsen (actual GOAT) just to be able to get a draw

Kasparov's immortal was a lucky mistake
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>>73942533
>NFL = Jerry Rice

I know NFL GOATS are hard to select, but Rice isnt even top 5 desu.

Better choices are the following:
L. Taylor - redefined the D/L position by creating the edge rusher not in a 3 point stance. Offenses had to tailor blocking schemes specifically for him

Unitas - redefined the QB position by being a pocket passer and first to truly utilize down-field passes play to play.

Jim Brown - greatest overall athlete the NFL has ever seen. Only other athlete to come close to him was Bo Jackson, and his career didnt last because of the blow hip.

OJ Simpson - probably the greatest pure RB the NFL has ever seen. Amazing presence and awareness of the field and could slam into small holes for big gains. Speed, strength, agility, height, he had it all.

Rest are debatable, if your argument doesnt include at least these 4, just give up.
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>>73942533
>Bradman
>not Tendulkar
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>>73942533
Lol football is pele and hockey is orr
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>>73946127
>OJ
>unitas
spotted the casual

OJ and unitas are top 10 at their positions all time sure but GOAT? come on now.

people always ignore how many down years Unitas had
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>>73946127
>L. Taylor
Wasn't even the best defender of his era.
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>>73946309
Hockey is not Orr you cum-gurgling faggot
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>>73942533
>Marvin Hagler
>Boxing MiddleWeight

That's Carlos Monzon
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This is the worst list ever. Literally two of them are correct
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>>73944119
>not easily lawrence taylor
hes actually the best ever probably, only brady is close. Rice is a meme wr whos biggest claim to fame is longevity
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>>73946529
Then it's Lemieux. Gretzky is not the hockey goat
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>>73943975
>all his accomplishments are from when the sport literally was in it's baby form
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>>73946521
>>73946420
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
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>>73946420
>he thinks there are 9 better running backs than OJ simpson
OJ literally carried the awful buffalo bills to the playoffs, year after year after year. He had a season where he averaged 36 carries a game. averaged. Everyone knew he was all they had and still couldnt stop him. hes electric. jim and LT are the goats. Id rather have OJ tho, no one before or since could do what he could
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>>73946672
>>73946735
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>>73946735
your dad has one too, a very tight one
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>>73946420
OJ is top 3 running back in NFL history, period. Only RB i would put ahead of him is Brown. You obviously dont have a clue about NFL history.

>>73946521
>>73946785
Who was better in the 80's and 90's?? Only one that comes to mind is reggie white, and id still take LT over him. Reggie was one of the best DT's in the game, LT changed the way defense was schemed, and forced offensive coaches to change their blocking schemes because he was so disruptive.

BTW, all those sacks reggie got were also due to him having a great supporting cast/defense/buddy ryan.
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>>73946831
good come back anon, got me to shut up.

congrats.
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>>73946833
>oj is top 3
"no" walter payton, jim brown, and barry sanders. and even if OJ was top 3 thats not the argument casual, you cant be the GOAT at a sport and not be the best at your position fucking retards I swear.
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>>73946859

>cum back
nah, that was me on your pops when I pulled out
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>>73946884
Jim Brown is #1, OJ is #2, rest are debatable. Jim was GOAT of NFL history. Thats my point retard.
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>>73946912
meh OJ Had what I think was the best single season ever by a rb but he didnt nearly the longevity walter payton did, oj had a really good 5 year stretch but before and after that he was pretty unremarkable.
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>>73942721
it got messi last night when I made ur mum literally gasp
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>>73944358
implying this isn't a sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M624T3PTggU
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>>73946833
>BTW, all those sacks reggie got were also due to him having a great supporting cast/defense/buddy ryan.
And Taylor didn't benefit from a great supporting cast and Parcells/Belichick? Carson & Banks were both elite players at lb. White had better sack totals and made more plays in the run game despite playing at a position that rarely accumulates tackles.

The 93 Packers defense gave up a full yard less per play than the 92 Packers, with White being the only major change.
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>>73947112
robothelp is not a sport.
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>>73942533

Jordan is debatable in Basketball.

>NFL = Jerry Rice
>WR
>Having enough of an impact to ever be the GOAT
>Pick only one friendo

And NASCAR is probably actually Richard Petty. Dale Earnhardt they called the Intimidator, but only Petty was nicknamed "The King"

I appreciate the time you took in making this list.
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>>73944394

>Ron Francis is 5th all time

Fuck yeah, Hartford Whalers represent.
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SSBM = Adam Lindgren
MvC2 = Justing Wong
UMvC3 = Christopher Gonzalez
SF in general = Daigo Umehara
CvS2 = Ryo Yoshida
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>>73947160
Im not knocking Reggie in any way. He was probably one of the best DT's to ever play the game, but LT changed the game completely. LT created a new position as a hybrid edge rusher who can drop back and cover. LT was capable of doing 4 things at any time during a game, which was unheard of at the time (pass rushing, run stopping, covering a back or TE, and dropping back into zone coverage). Reggie was a pure pass rusher who clogged up the A gaps.

The difference is, Reggie was the best pass rusher on the field, while LT was the best player on the field.
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>>73942533
Pole vault - Sergey Bubka

I'm illiterate in rugby, but isn't Lomu the greatest? Lomu, Wilkinson and Chabal are the only rugby players I can name.
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>>73942533
>Frankel is the goat horse
Shut the fuck up you useless scouse twat. The British know nothing about horse racing. The true GOAT is either Man O War or Secretariat you fucking dumb retard.
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>NASCAR

>NOT BOBBY ALLISON
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>>73948952
Lomu is to rugby what Beckham is to football
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>>73946309
>>73946529
>>73946690
It's Gordie Howe you dorks.
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>>73944119
Ok pitcher? You need to so some research yourself
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>>73944394
Jagr would be a lot closer if he didn't play in Europe for a few seasons. Also the lockout year

Plus in Gretzky's peak years league wide scoring was nearly a goal per game higher (per team) than in Jagr's peak years.

Bradman's numbers over everyone else in cricket is more impressive anyway
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>>73944458
thats not fun at all, thats just a fact
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>>73943628
Mighty Mike is true GOAT.
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>>73942533
>Boxing Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
>NFL = Jerry Rice

Those are objectively wrong
Boxing Heavyweight = Marcianno or Tyson
NFL = Brady/Montana/Peyton/Reggie White
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>>73956426
tyson is barely top 10 let alone the best you fucking tyson sympathisers need shooting
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Serena Williams is GOAT for womens tennis.

Also GOAT for being BLEACHED by a white man
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>>73942533
>Moto GP = Valentino Rossi
ayy no, most of his titles come from years he had no competition
Marquez is 14 years younger and only needs 5 more titles to surpass him
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>>73942533
Except Rugby is Colin Meads
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>>73946420
OJ rushed for 2,000 yards in a 14-game season.

That's insane.
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Nfl-Brady
Basketball-Shaq
Soccer-puskas or di stefano
Baseball-Hank Aaron
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>>73942533
>No Jansher Khan

Bullshit list
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>>73942597
>>73942666
>>73942721
>>73944485
Only a true moron would pick Messi over Maradona. Messi has been playing in one of the greatest teams ever his whole career. And in one of the best Argentinian teams ever on paper.

Maradona won titles with a mediocre Napoli team while Serie A was the best league in the world. And he played in a time where defenders literally kicked attackers down with no sight on the ball.
You can't even compare them two.
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>>73956459
>this much denial
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>>73942533
>jerry rice
>muhammad ali
>pudzianowski

gtfo of here faggot
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>>73956691
The real Argentinian goat is di stefano
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>>73956459
lol need to stop drinkin that koolaid kid
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>>73942609
>who is Aryton Senna
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>>73956843
ill take schumacher
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your all fuckin retards

some of these picks are godawfully terrible
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>>73956823
>>73956705
his best win is a geriatric Larry Holmes
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>>73956998
find me a professional boxer or trainer who agreess with anything you say. you wont.
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>>73957017
if you think his record is better than Ali, Lewis, Louis, Dempsey, Foreman, Vitali, Wladimir, Holmes or Frazier's then youve lost the plot hes a solid 8-15 on the HW rankings but not above that he was a great showman and an exciting puncher but he never beat anyone great he just beat good fighters
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>>73946672
Okay I'll go along with best defender. Jerry Rice was more than longevity. For over a decade he held single season records in yards, receptions, and receiving tds. Still holds receptions I believe. And is top 3 in all 3 categories. He's pretty fucking good is an understatement. TB12 has some similar stats for his position.
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>>73946833
>>73947160
Maybe you guys are missing the point altogether then, maybe a DL simply can't be the best defender because they must rely so much on the cast around them. Seems to me a legendary linebacker or DB maybe impacts the overall defense more simply by value of their position.
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>>73957483
Butkus and deacon jones were far more dominant
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>Boxing MiddleWeight = Marvin Hagler
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Jim Brown is the pro football GOAT. It's indisputable.
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>>73942533
impressed you included rowing OP. solid list.
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>>73942533
>MMA
>Anderson Silva
dude has lost like 5 straight
also has popped for steroids
the GOAT should be jon, but he popped for steroids as well
so that leaves GSP
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>>73942533
>>73942651
>>73942664
Jerry Rice isn't even the greatest WR tho
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>>73942533
>Baseball = Babe Ruth
Yes and it isn't up for debate.
>Basketball = Michael Jordan
Yes and it isn't up for debate.
>Hockey = Wayne Gretzky
Yes and it isn't up for debate.
>Boxing Heavyweight = Muhammad Ali
Yes and it isn't up for debate.
>Swimming = Michael Phelps
Yes and it isn't up for debate.
The rest are a matter of opinion but these guys are undisputed GOATS.
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Almost correct.
The GOAT Featherweight was Salvador Sanchez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0lBWgIMPMk
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>>73957724
>GSP didnt roid
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>>73944569
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>Rugby = Gareth Edwards
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>>73943851
Don Bradman is an indisputable GOAT batsman. His 99.94 Test average is considered one of, if not the, greatest sporting achievements of all time.
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>>73957734
Is this b8?
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>>73942716
What the fuck would a german cuck know about cricket. The Don dominated his whole career.
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>ctrl-f

>no bobby Oar
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>>73958294
Such a meme. That's an impossible number to hit ever again. So what you're saying is in a million years no one could ever be better or even close. Purely retarded. Not disputing his GOAT status but that's just stupid. There's no way he'd do that today.
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>>73942533
Billiards = Walter Lindrum. Daylight second. Efren Reyes is a pool player.
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>>73942804
kek *chess* on a sports board.

Why don't you give us the Scrabble GOAT while you're at it.
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>any of the faggy eurocuck sports on here
>relevant
American athletes btfo any of these people any time, if they're not the best it's not a real sport
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>>73958725
REAL SPORTS LIST:
football
baseball
Basketball
Hockey
Boxing
MMA
Tennis
Athletics
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>>73958294
not really since cricket is shite
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>>73942533
There is a possible GOAT changing in biathlon with Fourcade
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>>73943851
I love Julio, he's a legend but nowhere near the greatest. Top 20 p4p
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>>73944508
Mayweather is the correct answer
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>Wheelchair tennis: Esther Vergeer

I really agree
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>>73956691
This swede know what's up
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>>73942533
>scroll down to football
>le cocaine-fueled sprint past part-timers man over messi

T R A S H
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>>73956464
Graff>Williams
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>>73945431
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>>73948952
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>>73942533
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU DISRESPECT TOM BRADY LIKE THAT
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>>73942533
>Jack Nicklaus
I always thought Tiger Woods was considered goat in golf. Good to know.
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>>73942533
>NASCAR = Dale Earnhardt

It's Richard Petty and it's not even close.
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>>73970540

He was well on his way but fucked up spectacularly coming down the home stretch.
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>>73957734
would rather calvin johnson for top WR but you can't call bitchout players like him or sanders all time greats.
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>>73966583
not even best in his own rulesbaby era. almost all older QBs simply got knock the fuck out of the league.
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>>73942533
>Strongman = Mariusz Pudzianowski.
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>>73942533
>Pudzian as goat strongman
I always knew he was winning world championships and other events but didn't know he is considered goat. Proud of him.
The same with Małysz.
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>>73958103

I agree kiwi bro. If we're going by fame, then Lomu. But really it should be Richie.
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>>73956691
There would be exactly zero argument over Messi = GOAT if Higuain wasn't a choker.
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>>73942533
NASCAR not Tony Stewart
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>>73942533
>ruth over mays
lel
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>>73971976
Wrong & I have no idea what your latter take was even hinting at.

Typical Patriots hater. Young dumb & full of cum.
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>>73957790
>babe ruth
literally baby's first baseball player, learn something about advanced statistical analysis please
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>>73978264
Says the guy who can't define one method of advanced statistical analysis.

>inb4 google answer
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>>73958035
This guy couldve been champ if he wasn't such a faggot. Literally only good for knocking out bouncers and fucking Ronaldo.
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>no LHW

Y'ALL MUSTA FORGOT
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