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Why don't NFL teams ever trade players that fucking matter?

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ITS HAPPENING

AC/DC are boring, every song is the same

>>63304835
If the team that has them doesn't want the player anymore, prospective trade partners are suspicious of why.

>>63304835
Why don't NFL teams ever trade their good players? Don't know, mate.

>>63304857
HOLY SHIT IT'S TRUE

Ravens in '16

>>63304835
Because that's not how football works

>>63304869
Yeah but that one song is pretty bitchin

>>63304857
It wouldn't have that many favs/retweets already. Step up your game brohan.

In some circles, AC/DC means bisexual.

How would Romo react to the 1991 Eagles? Reggie White?

>>63304857
proof

>>63304857
>after the trade deadline
Also good luck finding the cap room

>>63304905
Well Joe Thomas is a HOF caliber player and the Browns were almost retarded enough to let him go, which is vintage Browns.

>>63304835

Its hard to plug and play players like that in the middle of the season. Just look at the Seahawks and Jimmy Graham. They had all offseason to learn how to use him and are still learning.

I'm really fuckin' pissed tbqh

>>63304946
the proof is right there mate

>>63304932
he'd roll into the fetal position permanently to protect himself for White ever sacks him

>>63304963
Jimmy Graham sucks cock. Brees babby and nothing more.

The Broncos just got fucking keked so hard

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ya'll niggas ready for the 8-0 Panthers

>>63304963

only position I can think of that makes a close to seamless transition is a 4-3 DL

>>63304857
should have chosen somebody more believable

Megatron is too expensive and Detroit wouldn't let go of him without at least one 1st rounder

and its after trade deadline too

>>63304403
The only reason Crabtree is playing so hot is because the top safety or corners are double teaming Cooper.

>>63304516
yeah, Woodson is going to make Digg's his bitch and the Raiders are going to show you who the boss of this gym is in 2 weeks.

>>63304857
made me look/10

As a Browns fan I'm fucking glad they didn't trade their only elite player to a team I absolutely fucking hate. The Clowns are the biggest joke in the league but this would be the final straw for me.

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 10m10 minutes ago

My understand of the Joe Thomas talks between #Broncos & #Browns is they couldn’t agree on compensation. Could’ve made it work in time.

stupid shits. I doubt the Broncos were the only team they had serious trade talks with, too.

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nth for BASED CARR

>Weisenhunt fired

YAY... I think.

>Nothing relevant on trade deadline.

Oh... so they're not wining another game this season? FUCK.

>>63304857
Fake.

>>63305000

He'd shit himself at the sight of White, Brown, and Simmons.

Sneak's Official Post Week 8 NFL Power Rankings, sponsored by Draft Kings™

1. Patriots
2. Broncos (+2)
3. Bengals (-1)
4. Panthers (+1)
5. Cardinals (+2)
6. Packers (-3)
7. Falcons (-1)
8. Vikings (+1)
9. Rams (+3)
10. Seahawks (+3)
11. Raiders (+3)
12. Jets (-4)
13. Saints (+5)
14. Giants (-4)
15. Redskins
16. Eagles
17. Steelers (-6)
18. Chiefs (+4)
19. Dolphins (-2)
20. Colts (-1)
21. Bills
22. Ravens (+4)
23. Chargers (-3)
24. Cowboys (-1)
25. Texans (+2)
26. Bucs (+6)
27. Bears (+1)
28. Browns (-4)
29. 49ers (-4)
30. Jaguars (-1)
31. Lions (-1)
32. Titans (-1)

>>63304964
Why? You knew it was impossible to achieve a trade like this within a few hours

>>63305087
>interim coach is Mike Mularkey
You'll be wishing to have Whiz back

Does an elite left tackle matter if the QB has been irrelevant his entire career?

>>63305138
shut the fuck up, Sneak

>>63304964
you realize it literally doesn't matter right? your fucking defense will scorep oints for you

>>63305087
>YAY... I think.
He probably needed to go, but in doing so the probability that Mariota busts just went up significantly.

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>>63305138
>giants above eagles

>>63304964
Once a cùck always a cùck.

>>63304932
The Buddy Ryan's Eagles were the original bounty team and they actually tried to injure fucking everyone, unlike the Saints which was a witch hunt. I mean they legitimately went even after kickers and shit, Romo wouldn't last a quarter.

>>63305138
>Giants at 14, Eagles at 16
>2 weeks removed from the Gints getting annihilated

>>63305169
I didn't know /nfl/ tripfags actually played in the NFL

So its pretty much confirmed that Gronk is a Brady baby right? I mean he is good, but he is literally a clone of Travis Kelce. Travis would do just as good if not better if he was in New England. Same with Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis.

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>>63305138
>packers
>dropping only 3 spots

>>63305046
Diggs already torched one old man for a TD this year, I'm sure he can do it again

>>63305222

How long did Ryan have them?

>>63305138
I fucking hate you, Sneak.

>>63305234
this [player] is a [player/system] babby is getting really dank

>>63305161
>>63305189

Right. That's why I added the "I think". I mean, in paper, it sounds like a good movie, but in the NFL things rarely work like they seem to in paper.

Having Mularkey now sounds pretty terrible, tho'.

That's what you get, fucking faggot

>>63304932
He'll be the sacrificial lamb for the Cowboys dynasty

>>63305026
please do this, I cannot give you any energy for this game.
For I will need it for our own...
Break the glacier, help bring glory back to the North

>>63305234
>muh system meme
>Brady is only good because of Belichick
>Belichick is only good because of Brady

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>>63305237
>snook

>>63304964
Did you really think the Buncos would successfully manipulate the cap again?

>>63305275
1986-1990

>>63305249
One old man is washed up, the other one is having a great revival when everyone was thinking he was going to phone it in for some easy money.

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>he doesn't think Flacco is elite, Typhlosion
>oh my god what a dumb cunt

>>63305312
>next in line is Weeden
good luck with that

>NFL changed stats from NO/NYG game
>The Snead fumble is now a Brees interception

>>63305200
>>63305232
>same people who complained when I moved the Eagles up to 11 after beating the Giants despite playing like shit

Plus I'm always kinda iffy about moving teams up or down on a bye week. But if the Eagles beat Dallas next week they'll likely move up over the Giants. We'll see :P

>>63305237
I know they played bad but it's only their first loss. When they lose to Carolina they'll probably drop to like 10 or 11 though.

>>63305282
Yes I hate me too.

>>63305361
The witch hunt is happening for another team. Perfect time to strike

The Broncos right now with Tebow at QB would literally be a better version of the 2013-14 Seahawks. Their defense is just as good and their offense would be much better than Seattle's was. They would probably be the favorites to win the Super Bowl, even ahead of the Pats.

Instead they will lose to the Bengals in the Divisional Round when Peyton goes 12-27, 142 yard, with 1 TD and 3 Picks.

>>63305413
fucking what

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So this Rams VS Vikings game though...
Fun Fact: Game 1 last year Ram vs Vikes was the last time anyone has heard from Cordarrelle Patterson
They seen him rush for a 67 yard touchdown and then right out of the stadium forever.

>>63305439

>1TD

You're giving the man too much credit there

>>63305439
>lose to the Bengals in the Divisional Round
Woah, woah, hold up.
Are you seriously implying that the Bungles will win not one, but TWO playoff games?

>>63305439
Fuck no. Bengals defense is not that great, and you can trust Dalton in the postseason even less than Chicken Parm. It's going to be a Pats/Buncos AFCCG, deal with it.

>>63305161
I dont really give a shit if the Titans win another game, I just want Mariota to make it through the season without hurting his knee any further. I highly doubt he will be the future head coach anyway.

>>63305501
The Patriots are going to face both wild card teams in the playoffs.

>>63305413
does that invalidate Drew's 7th TD?

>the goyim state of the NFL
>trying to take away opposing players' records when they destroy the defense and lose

>>63305495
>implying the Bengals won't get a 1st round bye

>>63305495
Browns fan here so not exactly liking the Bungles, but they're fucking great this year. I can't see anyone beating them aside from the Patriots.

>>63305510
wow a real life titan fan, what's it like?

>>63305510
he won't make it through if they keep putting Jeremiah Poutasi and Jamon Meridith on the field

1. Patriots
2. Bengals
3. Raiders
4. Texans
5. Jets
6. Buncos

>>63305543
How does a change from fumble to interception invalidate a TD?

Regardless, this was a cunt move from the JewFL.

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>>63305234
>Same with Jimmy Graham
kek

Jimmy can't block, he's pretty much just a slow-ass WR.

>>63305556
Its like rape everyday.

>>63304964
As am I, mang. As am I. I knew they were going to go for him, but why waste the time if they couldn't get it done? With Ty Sambrailo out for the season, do you think the Vernon Davis trade will positively impact them?

>>63305569
Yeah i agree, what i don't get is Poutasi is a guard and Whiz was trying to fit the guy at RT. I don't understand why he was trying to fit him there.

>>63305605
>a TE who can't block is a WR

Hate this meme. Equating that ginger half-nigger to a WR is an insult to even the shittiest WR out there. He literally can't get a yard if you put a corner on him instead of safety/linebacker.

>>63305542
defense >>>>>>> offense in the end, m8. buncos learned that 2 years ago, they will be in the AFCCG unless they play the pats in the WC or div.

>>63305597
interception means the rest of the Saints TD drive doesn't happen, ergo Brees only finishes with 6 TDs like Eli

From what I've heard, Ryan's Eagles were some bad motherfuckers.

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>>63305674
>interception means the rest of the Saints TD drive doesn't happen
Dude what

That drive ended in a turnover either way

Late on this, but that Vernon Davis deal was meh. Buncos didn't give up a lot for him, but the guy just isn't good anymore. He definitely isn't going to cause havoc on NE's elite defense. I still say Pats beat Denver by 10 in Mile High then in the playoffs, final score - Pats win 45-13

Holy shit. Ray Farmer is giving a presser for the first time this season and getting grilled about his terrible draft picks

https://instagram.com/p/9o1LWlixGn/

dude literally has sweat pouring down his face. Embarassing desu senpai.

>>63305657
>He literally can't get a yard if you put a corner on him instead of safety/linebacker.
But certain safeties have had success against Graham.

>>63305694
the 1991 defense is top 5 all time material, top 10 at worst. and yes they were insanely good

someone who looks suspiciously like jason mccourty was seen in foxboro today

>>63305778
Yeah so he's even shittier.

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>>63305799
have brothers, let alone twins ever played on the same SB-winning team?

>>63305799
It was confirmed false

JMAC was not for sale

>>63305875
idk maybe fucking google will tell you

>all those fuckers saying Brees would struggle without Graham
>currently a better QB rating than last year
>Ben fucking Watson having better number than Graham

Can /sp/ finally acknowledge that Brees is the one molding this trash players to gold? He's literally capable of posting videogame numbers with utter shit for teammates.

>>63305799
a black guy?

>>63305764

Not to mention that the 49ers probably let him go because he was man enough to talk shit about the organization and kaep.

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>>63305780
>1991 defense with 2004 offense plus dawkins, sheppard, and lewis
throw in akers and some good clock management and >tfw

so how the fuck did frat stafford get 5000 yards with a much worse WR corps than he has now?

was it a fluke or are the lions really so incompetent that they actually made stafford worse?

>>63305897
>watson
>trash
pick one, Brees is cool though.
No need to hate on your own team in their current condition.

>>63305651
I'm not too sure myself

I'm pretty sure he'd be an upgrade over Byron Bell though I don't know how well he's doing

Of course him being moved inside would mean the Titans still have no RT but better that than ruining the confidence of a rookie

Let's make football more interesting by allowing suplexing
https://youtu.be/0uR9_PDgGRY?t=7m31s

>>63305104
I don't know first hand but I've heard people say that he's constantly open and kaep just never threw to him.

>>63305609
yeah it gives us a big redzone option

>>63305931
ermmm incompetence. Lions are the undoubtedly worst team in the NFC North overall.

>>63305927
>yfw Eagles still find a way to lose

>>63305939
I'm not a Saints fan though, I just admire Brees.

>>63305972
After the Cards game the coaches haven't really been letting kap throw the ball, instead they opt for 3 run plays or to punt desu

>>63305927
switch out mcnabb for cunningham so you can't make a game-losing pick on the last drive

>>63305585
What is this a ranking of?

>>63305912
That's what I was thinking. It's probably a variety of factors. VD's lack of production, mixed with tension in the locker room between him and Kaep. I really wish they could've landed Thomas though. That o-line is seriously unstable.

and because VD had 6 months left on his contract

>>63306014
Teams most likely to have run a train on your mom

>>63305674
Its not fucking time travel m8

>>63305076
Do the browns have any reason to hate elway besides beating them in the playoffs?

>>63306021
Don't worry he's a decent player and he'll do much better now that he's on a not shit team so you'll get your money's worth.

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So the Charlotte sports radio station I listen to does this thing called loser radio where we listen to some of the radio broadcast of our opponents after a win. Holy shit the Colts radio caller was soooo salty last night. By far the most booty blasted of any of our opponents all season. He was even taking shots at cam for bowing and stuff. How mad does a fan base have to be for their radio announcers to come across with that level of butthurt?

>>63306053
Patriots are too white for that

>>63305328
>>Belichick is only good because of Brady
Said literally no one outside of pats fan imaginations.

>>63305234
Brady is a gronk baby.

So how long will it take for the LA Raiders to win a championship?

>>63306057
That's exactly the reason.

>>63306097
3 yrs tops desu senpai

>>63306065
It's the Colts. Expect nothing less.

>>63306097
>LA Rams
ftfy senpai

senpai
senpai
senpai

>>63306065
He sounded like such a hick.

>>63306189
what desu

>>63306065
I expect nothing less from the most classless organization in the NFL

>>63306065
sounds about right. just be thankful you don't play the ravens

>>63306207
desu kek senpai

>>63305138
The broncos have only beaten ONE team above .500. How are they better than the bengals, panthers, cards, packers, and falcons?

>>63306063

Will he? Owen Daniels is probably as good if not a better TE than him and the Broncos haven't done much with him on the field.

>>63305978
I dont understand though. stafford puts up huge numbers airing it out every down, but is shit when he is made into a game manager.

why would they do this? are the lions intentionallty trying to make stafford into a bust? he was on track to be the next Farve but he was turned into a worse Jay Cutler. Im fucking angry tb.h

We're halfway through the season now so you've had time to judge.

>your team
>trades/FA signings during offseason or early season
>how you feel about that trade or signings

>>63306254
Because that one team was undefeated. It was by far the most quality win any team has had this season

>>63306254
Pats fans confirmed retards who can't count.

>>63306223
senpai the desu goes after the senpai otherwise it's not correct please fix your grammar senpai desu

>>63306276
> Lions
> Haloti Ngata
> He is fat, old, and very bad

>>63306254
>Packers
>Vikings
>1 team

Those are literally the best wins any of those teams have, and they have two of htem.

>>63306306
wish you kept Suh?

>>63305138
>Seahawks, Giants, Jets with whatever QB they pull off the streets ahead of the Eagles
I can understand putting the skins above them, even though I don't agree. But this is a shit ranking, desu.

>>63306276
>Jaguars
>Dan Skuta, Sergio Brown, Davon House, Julius Thomas, Jared Odrick

>Skuta was a good pickup
>Sergio Brown is shit
>Davon House is super okay
>Julius Thomas finds reasons not to play
>Jared Odrick is meh

So, who will be the most injured team this season and why is it the Chargers?

>>63306065
>clots
>bootyblased

it's a fact of life in indy

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>Aaron Rodgers - 77 yards, 0 TDs had a higher QBR this week than Brady - 356 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs
>ESPN

>>63306276

>Ravens

>Ngata trade
He was asking too much and I think the run defense is still good. The Lions are 1-7 so I don't think Ngata is doing very well there. They also drafted Za Darius Smith with that trade, he's a solid backup.

>Kendrick Lewis
Could've worked if Elam wasn't injured.

>Kyle Arrington
Wasn't really expecting much of him, BB never lets go a still useful player. He sucks here.

>Chris Givens
So far so good. Having Marlon Brown out of the field did good against both Chargers and Cardinals.

>>63306574
They stopped counting plays where the defense just decides not to cover so brady's rating will tank, desu.

>>63306276
>your team
NE

>trades/FA signings during offseason or early season
Bradley Fletcher
Scott Chandler
Dion Lewis
Keshawn Martin
Jon Bostic

>How you feel about that trade or signings

>Fletcher
garbo, glad he's gone

>Chandler
s'alright

>Dion Lewis
LOVE HIM

>Martin
okay I guess. haven't seen much of him

>Jon Bostic
I don't think he's played yet IIRC

How many teams above .500 have the Pats beat this season?

Would you want your favorite team to sign Josh Gordon this offseason? Would you trust him to stay out of trouble? For how much and for how long would you sign him?

>>63306617
Jets. Their schedule this season is hella soft.

>>63306642
What makes people think they are clear contenders for the AFC, then?

>>63306619
definitely. He gets paid to help win games, not to be a model fucking citizen. Idc if he smokes weed after a 150 2 TD game. Shit, I don't care if he goes and beats up a hobo after a game like that. If you help the team I cheer for win I like you. It's honestly that simple. You can do no wrong in my mind if you're good.

>>63306619
He's gonna be under contract m8 and will play for the Browns unless he holds out or gets stoned again.

>>63306574
>QBR

This is LITERALLY what Aaron Rodgers plays for confirmed.

>>63306574

Let's be honest here, JJ Watt could be placed at QB, throw 1/13 for -6 yards and one pick and he would still have a higher QBR than Joe Flacco or Dalton throwing for 60% 310yds and 2TD with no picks.

>>63306695
Didn't he play for the ring he won?

>>63306660
They keep blowing teams out and have the highest point differential. Some of that is the fact that patriots run up the score instead of running out the clock though. It's understandable why people rank them #1 but they've started looking much more beatable recently and the teams they played are getting exposed.

>>63306574
what really? I don't get QBR. Would someone explain what they base off of it? Because if this is true that's some fucking bullshit.

>>63306725
Good analysis, although this season they only 'blew out' the Jags and Lelphins. Not anything to be proud of, really.

> tfw so close

These close games are killing me.

>>63306697

JJ is a running QB

>>63306276

>Oilers

Nate Washington was an okay deal.
TJ Yates is the best QB we've had all season.

Everything else was garbage.

>>63306738
ESPN's arbitrary rating for a QB that covers more bases(like a QB running) and simplifies things to a 0-100 scale than the NFL's arbitrary Passer Rating(which ignores any runs a passer makes) and goes from 0-152.7.
Also, QBR doesn't penalize a QB's score as much as Passer Rating does when a receiver drops a perfectly thrown ball.
On paper, it's a more effective and accurate look at a QB's performance and contribution to the team than the old NFL passer rating, which didn't account for modern read-option quarterbacks or have leeway to the actual events on the field. Just measuring completions and TDs with no regard to how it happened or how well they were played.

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>YFW ALL OF THE HEADCOACHES IN JAGUARS' FRANCHISE HISTORY ARE HEAD COACHES RIGHT NOW

>>63306780
It's only close when the other team is confident that they will win so they begin sitting starters, yet still manage to win. I don't understand why they haven't fired Pagano mid-season, they clearly aren't going anywhere even if they somehow do make it to the wildcard round.

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>ESPN

>>63306738
That's the whole point
Passer rating is what matters
QBR is a made up stat by ESPN that they give no information on how it is derived
It could simply be a measure of how many dicks the qb sucks pre game and have nothing to do with passing stats

>>63305884
It's a joke about how Jason and Devin McCourty are identical twins m8

>>63306874
>>63306881
You guys are way too mad over trivial bullshit, do you have slight autism?

>>63306865
>NFL's arbitrary Passer Rating
Literally the highest correlation with winning of any mainstream stat.

>>63306865
well obviously it's shit if that terrible performance is rated higher than Brady's elite game.

>>63306911
Trent Dilfer plz

>>63306874
>Flux on at 5:30

>>63306681
I don't give two shits if he smokes his dope every day, but if whether I mind him smoking weed or not doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, if he smokes and gets caught, he gets a suspension. If think twice about sinking a lot of money into someone who's one fun night away from being out of the league.

>>63306694
iirc if he wins his appeal of the suspension he got for missing that 2014 meeting, he can become a FA after this season.

>>63306911
Tell that to Tebow when he went 2 for 10 a few years ago. Those two completions were TDs and thus netted him a 110.8 passer rating.
110.8 rating for completing 20% of his passes.

>>63306903
i wouldn't describe myself as mad, i just think it's hilariously ridiculous that QBR's equation is so stupid
>>63306926
i have special eyes

>>63306725

You also have to consider the Broncos almost lost to the Ravens and Browns and struggled with the Chiefs.

Opponents records are tricky, teams like the Packers haven't really beat anyone worthy and have struggled against bad teams also.

>>63306874
Aaron Rodgers did more work to help his team win than Brady. Brady is surrounded by a better team that carries his ass when he gets shoddy.

>>63306998
The Chiefs had optimism when they played the Broncos. So did the Ravens, it was the first game.

The Smile was gone afterwards

>>63307018

Why doesn't Rodgers just throw it 2 ft to his RB every play?

>>63306998
They also almost lost to the Raiders. Raiders' D kept Peyton completely out of the end zone.
If not for that interception, it would have been a guaranteed win to Oakland.

>>63307018
But Brady had the better game so he should have the higher score.

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>>63303568

>>63307034
Because he's better than Brady.

>>63307026

That reachable WC spot should give optimism to every AFC team, not really an excuse.

>>63306959
>not channeling rex grossman

>>63306903
No f@m I'm just explaining to anon why qbr is a useless stat mostly because we are not told whayt is considered and wwoighed into it

>>63307034
Can Eddie Lacy catch?

I don't watch a lot of Green Bay games, but in the ones I have seen, it doesn't seem like he gets used that way a whole lot

>>63307073
Lel

>>63306619
>Be Panthers fan
>One of the better recent track records with staying out of legal headlines
>Great coaching staff
>Need for a non-KB WR with actual upside

If we could afford him after giving Norman his money, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

>>63307073
but he's not. We had a vote a few days ago. Were you not here?

http://strawpoll.me/5857586

>>63307018
how does that relate to what his rating should be lel
if a QB has a good game, a rating of his performance as a QB should be better than the rating of a QB who has a worse game
also brady has literally never thrown for that few yards with at least 20 attempts just FYI

Rank in order:

Montana
Favre
Elway
Marino

>>63307118
>implying /esspee/ knows anything

>>63307134
they do

>>63307127
Montana
Marino
Elway
Favor

>>63307127
Montana
Marino
Favre
Elway

Seems pretty obvious baka desu senpai

>>63307127

Marino
Favre
Montana
A shitload of other QBs
Elway

>>63306873

Who sat their starters? I don't remember no one sat their starters down. Also it's not all Pagano fault. If you didn't know, Grigson mostly do all the saying, Pagano does little, which is why Grigson should be terminated also.

At this point, it really doesn't matter. The next game against the Broncos should play evenly.

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>>63307018
>Brady is surrounded by a better team that carries his ass when he gets shoddy
It's the other way around. Brady carries the team when they get shoddy.

>>63307127
Brady > Brees > all the rest

>>63307054
The raiders, the third best team the broncos beat, just blew out the jets, the best team the patriots beat.

Todd Gurly gets ROTY right? There's no one dumb enough ITT to argue against him for anyone else?

>>63307173
his picture needs a "You are SO fucking mad" caption

>>63307287
Radiniggers actually think it should be Cooper

>>63307173
>only 4 rush attempts
Sounds more like shitty play calling and attempts to stat pad

>>63307305
>>63307287

Lol, QB of the year will go to the le heiman fegs.

>>63307287
He's got a good lead in the rest of the pack, but Cooper and Winston can easily make pushes of their own.

>>63307317
nah no rookie QB is playing good enough to beat our Gurly for ROTY. Winston and Mariota. Who else is there?

>>63307310
Good luck running against Wilkerson, Richardson and Williams

>taking small survey for school
>asks which are my favorite sites
>tfw 4chins isn't on the list

>>63307390
Raiders put up 121 yards on them.
In addition to over 300 yards through the air.

>>63307287
not heard of a little qtpie named stefon diggs yet?

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>Favorite player on your team
>Player you feel isn't given enough credit on your team
>One player who isn't a huge star or icon from another team you wish your team had

Carr
Latavius Murray
Paul Kruger

>>63307392
Underage b&

>>63307381

Doesn't matter, it's a QB award like all of them.

>Chargers release Jacoby

Good fucking riddance.

>>63307390
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/0ap3000000571888/Latavius-Murray-highlights

Good lord, as long as Belicheat doesn't have some super secret plan this time, the Broncos are going to eat the Pats alive.

>>63307473
I heard. Gurly is better.

>>63307476
College, family

>Cam Newton is MVP

who is behind this meme?

>>63307243
The Broncos didn't beat the Raiders.

Sebastian Janikowski beat the Raiders.

>>63307501
>>63307451
For comparison, Jets RB ran for 17 yards on 15 attempts.
Geno put up a few good runs, though. Got about 35 yards I think.

>>63307484
No it isn't you casual

OFFICIAL NONAUTISMAL COACH OTY WEEK 9 RANKINGS:

-----FRONTRUNNER TIER-----
1. Ron Rivera
2. Gary Kubiak
3. Bill Belicheck
4. Jack Del Rio
-----DECENT SHOT TIER-----
5. Mike Zimmer
6. Marvin Lewis
7. Dan Quinn
8. Bruce Arians
-----DARK HORSE TIER-----
9. Todd Bowles
10. Sean Payton
11. Jeff Fisher
12. Dave Campbell
-----MAYBE IF THEY GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER TIER-----
13. Jay Gruden
14. Lovie Smith
15. Pete Carroll
16. Mike Tomlin

>Browns price too high

Think back on your teams history. Any player they've had for at least 1 full season. Imagine them in their prime. Now fill out your teams perfect roster. Guys from the 70s playing with your current starter. qb, rb, fb, wrs, OL, DL, LB, kicker, fucking punter if you want to. Your perfect team full of your teams players. Copy and paste below so it'll be easier to fill out.

>QB
>RB
>FB
>4 wrs
>RG
>Center
>LG
>RT
>LT
>TE
>2 DE
>2 DT
>2 OLB
>MLB
>4 CBs
>FS
>SS
>kicker
>punter
>kick returns (can be a player already listed like if you had a WR returning kicks)
>punt returner (see above)
>head coach
>defensive coordinator
>offensive coordinator
>special teams coach

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>>63307501
>dat O-line

>>63307612
>Quinn not the clear frontrunner

>>63307612
why is Belichick never #1 despite being consistently the best?
>wow Rivera did a shit job last year and a good job this year that must make him better than a consistently good coach

>>63307658
he has tom brady

>>63307658
Because Bill is consistently a great coach. Coach of the year tends to go to those who revive a lackluster team.

>>63307474
>Panthers
>Before the season: Benjamin. Now: Norman
>Stefon Diggs/Alshon Jeffery

>>63307573
Apples and oranges, we're looking at this only from a JEST defensive angle.

Offensively there were to many variables to make a fair comparision, especially with Fritzpatrick being knocked out early. Defensively, the Raiders put up over 10 times as many rushing yards against the JESTS as the Pats. Now let's seem them go up against an elite D-line like the Broncos are packing IN mile high. As I said before, unless Belicheat has some super secret plan to decode the Bronco's defense and Manning's arm gives out on him. Their chances are not looking good. Especially after the Broncos just manhandled the best team in the NFC.

>>63307658
Coach of the Year award is basically 'the most improved team' award

>>63307584

Shutup bitch.

Vince Young won that shit.

>>63306254
Pats fan threatened by those big,black,strong pass rushers.

>>63307690
>Now let's seem them go up against an elite D-line like the Bills uh the Jets uh the Dolphins uh I mean the Broncos

>>63307287

Depends on a few things.
1. What Winston does from this point forward as he's the strongest QB rookie at this point and QBs get the inside track.
2. Whether Cooper will be pushed as to make up for Carr not being in the MVP or offensive player of the year running.
3. If Gurley can keep up this pace would being overworked and ran into the ground. If the Rams can avoid giving him 30 or more carries like the GB game, that may happen.

Would you call Marino one-dimensional? He had no run game.

>>63307692
Del Rio is a lock then.

>>63306738
No one outside ESPN knows. I'm serious, for all we know it might just be a random number in the 0-100 range

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>>63307474
Cam Heyward
David DeCastro
Luke Willson

>jacoby Jones released

THANK YOU LAWD

>>63307715
>Razorcakes
>JEST
>Squids
>Elite
Pick one Britbong

>>63307746
Now for Donald Brown to be gone.

>>63307700
That doesn't make it a QB only award, educate yourself casual

>>63307658
The whole award is basically a "who made the most of a shit/talentless team" award, unless you win 15+ games. See both Arians teams, Rivera's 2013 team, and Harbaugh's 2011 team. That's the only problem with Bill tbqh flam, he's doing what he always does.

>>63307715
The first two teams didn't have the resume the last one does.

its a fair statement after what they did to the supposed best NFC team.

>>63307751

They actually turned down trade offers for him, what the fuck, man.

I guess he'll be upped to third string now that BO is out..
Least he'll be active, I guess

>>63307474
Gronk
Chung
any good corner

>>63306865
>On paper, it's a more effective and accurate look at a QB's performance
How the fuck would you know? ESPN doesn't say how it's calculated.

Complete garbage "stat"

>>63307755

Its a Heisman QB award.

Bradford
Newton
RG3

Manziel would have it if he played a full season

Educate yourself memer.

i'm so depressed

thinking about ending it desu

>>63307783
>They actually turned down trade offers for him, what the fuck, man.

I know. Then they sign Dreamius to practice-squad.

Like, fucking get rid of him. Dreamius can take over for BO while he's injured. Brown does nothing.

>>63307732
>He actually thinks coaching a 3-win team into a 9-win team is better than coaching a 7-win team into a 13-win team

POST DRAGONLORD PERFORMANCES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSLWk0q_vu8

>>63307641
>QB
Kurt Warner
>RB
Marshall Faulk
>FB
Dan Towler
>4 wrs
Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Tom Fears, Elroy Hirsch
>RG
Dannis Harrah
>Center
Rich Saul
>LG
Tom Mack
>RT
Jackie Slater
>LT
Orlando Pace
>TE
Terry Nelson
>2 DE
Robert Quinn and Deacon Jones
>2 DT
Aaron Donald and Merlin Olsen
>2 OLB
Jack Reynolds and Kevin Greene
>MLB
Isiah Robertson
>4 CBs
Dick Lane, Jerry Gray, Janoris Jenkins, Pat Thomas
>FS
Nolan Cromwell
>SS
Aeneas Williams
>kicker
Jeff Wilkins
>punter
Johnny Hekker
>kick returns
Dante Hall
>punt returner
Dante Hall
>head coach
Dick Vermeil
>defensive coordinator
Gregg Williams
>offensive coordinator
Mike Martz
>special teams coach
John Fassel

>>63304765
>amari cooper
>number 9

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>>63307474
>Charles Woodson
>Gabe Jackson
>Jairus Byrd

>>63307807
But all three of them deserved the award when they got it.

>>63307815
>Turning a garbage team into a decent team isn't better than turning a decent team into a competitive team.

>>63307764
Bills manhandled the Colts before facing the Patriots and Colts were considered one of the Super Bowl favourites at that time.

Jets had the number #1 defense in scoring and yards before facing the Patriots

>>63307658
>Implying Rivera is a shit coach
>Implying he isn't the most recent non-Arians COTY winner

>>63307848

And they will "deserve" it again.

Thank you ESPN

>>63307764
The revisionist history that goes in here is hilarious.

Week 14 last year Buffalo held Peyton to 170 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs, week 15 they held Rodgers to 180 yards 0 TDs, 2 INTs. Finished #2 in the league in defense, #1 in the league in sacks, and that was used as proof all summer that they'd destroy the Patriots this year.

Then they start this year by dominating Andrew Luck in week 1.

In week 2 the Pats would stand no chance IN buffalo. The Cold Front would demolish them.

All forgotten now of course.

>>63307474
Robert Quinn
Michael Brockers
John Conner

>>63307807
No it goes to the best rookie, it's not surprising that the best college player goes on to have success as a rookie, that doesn't make a it a QB only award.

Here this should help your education

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award

>>63307874
>last year
Into the trash your stats go brit bong.

>>63307856
>Garbage into decent is better than decent into top-5 owl contender

Kek

>>63307641
>>QB
Sadly, Jay Cutler
>>RB
Walter Payton
>>FB
Roland Harper
>>4 wrs
God damn.... Harlon Hill, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Marcus Robinson?
>>RG
Kyle Long
>>Center
Olin Kreutz
>>LG
Tom Thayer
>>RT
Keith Van Horne
>>LT
Jimbo Covert
>>TE
Ditka
>>2 DE
Richard Dent, Julius Peppers in his prime
>>2 DT
Danimal and Mongo
>>2 OLB
Lance Briggs and Otis Wilson
>>MLB
Butkus, then Urlacher
>>4 CBs
Tillman, Bennie Mcrae, Donnell Woolford, Walt Harris
>>FS
Gary Fencik, healthy Mike Brown
>>SS
Doug Plank
>>kicker
Gould
>>punter
Brad Maynard
>>kick returns (can be a player already listed like if you had a WR returning kicks)
Devin Hester
>>punt returner (see above)
Devin Hester
>>head coach
Ditka
>>defensive coordinator
Buddy Ryan
>>offensive coordinator
Ditka
>>special teams coach
David Taub

The defense, O line and running game would be better than any other teams. The receivers and QB leave room to be desired

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>>63307474
Allen Hurns
Telvin Smith
Jadeveon Clowney

>Implying Clowney isn't a future Hall of Famer if he goes to a 4-3 team instead of that craptastic 3-4 Houston runs

>>63307856
it isn't, you can just fix some low hanging fruit and then everyone celebrates your mediocrity

>>63307868
he's just overrated if someone thinks he's the best

>>63307885

>RG3 was better than Wilson

Memer please.

>>63307874
>Then they start this year by dominating Andrew Luck in week 1.

Turns out that nigga sucks tho.

Seriously, none of what the Bills and Jets did compares to demolishing a 6-0 team that was supposed to be the obvious second best team before the game started, with their MVP level QB throwing for 77 yards.

Sure some will overreact, but its fucking fair to think the Pats will be challenged on the road in the same conditions if everything holds until then.

>>63307890
>He wants Ditka to catch passes while literally coaching and coordinating the entire offense

Please make this happen.

>>63307913
Of course they'll be challenged. But Brady vs great defenses has a very, very different track record than Rodgers (or any other QB) has against great defenses.

>>63307889
>>63307898
A top 5 team should already be a superb owl contender. All that coach did was re-arrange some of weak points as opposed to having to work with an organization that's in shambles that every sees as an easy win.

>>63306725
>teams they played are getting exposed
but the jets and the bills had major injuries since the pats games, wouldn't say they've been "exposed"

>>63307915
Ditka could do it

>>63307913
>Seriously, none of what the Bills and Jets did compares to demolishing a 6-0 team that was supposed to be the obvious second best team before the game started, with their MVP level QB throwing for 77 yards.
And before the Bills game Colts were considered the best team in the AFC and a Super Bowl favourite. Their quarterback was the MVP favourite as well. Green Bay and Rodgers were overrated before the Denver game just like Colts were overrated before the Bills game

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>>63307890
>Not having Ditka clone himself and play all positions.

You namefag are clearly not a superfan. I question if you're just a fan.

>>63307612
>three 7-0 coaches in top-three
>Marvin Lewis 6th

Steelels fan detected

>>63307908
They were statically very similar and Wilson had a better defense and running game, you're so casual it hurts

Can't wait till the patriots lose to the Giants next week, and then to the Broncos in a few weeks time. Finally shut all these brady shitposters up

>>63307870
Let's go over this real fast.

2010 OROTY: Sam Bradford, Mike Williams, and Maurkice Pouncey. This is a fucking easy choice, especially since Bradford got the Rams more wins in his one year than they had the previous 3 combined.

2011 OROTY: Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, AJ Green. It's really only between AJ Green and Cam Newton here. Green had an amazing rookie year, with over 1000 yards and 7 TDs. Cam Newton threw for 4k yards, 21 passing TD's, and 14 rushing TD's. Easy easy choice. Cam wins.

2012 OROTY: RG3, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson. The year of the rookie QB. It was always a tight race between Luck and RG3, since Wilson didn't really come on until the end of the year. RG3 set rookie records in QB rushing and passer rating. He was a legitimate stud. He also lead the league with 8.14 YPA, and tied with Tom Brady for lowest INT % in the NFL. The dude was simply nuts and deserved this award.

>>63307927
so Rivera salvaged the wreck he created last season?

what a genius

>>63307982
It's going to take a lot more than 2 regular season losses to shut them up

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>>63307982
I'll be waiting for your tears.

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>>63304765

>triggered

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Browns fan here. Why is Johnny Football called a "meme quarterback" here? What can I expect from him Thursday with McCown dead?

>>63307976
>>63307991

So how butthurt will you be when Crablegs wins ROTY?

>>63307807
>ROTY award is a QB award

Kek
What >>63307885 is true

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How is your 2015 rookie class doing, /sp/?

>>63308025
>What can I expect
Disappointment

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>>63308002
>Panthers fans wanted Rivera fired last season
>now he's apparently the coach of the year

lel

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JUST

>>63307966
>Marvin Lewis

What has he ever done since leaving Baltimore?

>Cam is elite, it doesn't matter that his offense doesn't put up any points, stats are for losers!
is he overrated again?

>>63308025
Because he runs around a lot and basically played backyard football in college, which doesn't translate to the pros. The Browns should've drafted Carr or even Bridgewater.

>>63308029
He won't even finish 2nd in voting, despite deserving it. People will remember his garbage week 1 performance and assume that's what he did all year. Gurley will probably lead the league in rushing yards, rushing yards per attempt, and other nonsensical bullshit because he's stupid. Unless he dies, he's winning the award.

>>63308056
Riverboat Ron is amazing. He took a complete trainwreck roster last season, righted the ship and got them to the playoffs.

>>63307641
Past
>QB - Brady
>RB - Curtis Martin
>FB - Mosi Tatupu
>WR's - Cappaletti, Morgan, Moss, Welker
>Guards - John hannah, Logan Mankins
>Center - Jon Morris
>Tackles - Bruce Armstrong, Matt Light
>TE - Gronk (Ben Coates honorable mention)
>DE - Julius Adams, Richard Seymour
>DT - Houston Antwine, Vince Wilfork
>OLB - Andre Tippett, Willie McGinest
>MLB - Steve Nelson
>CB - Ty Law, Darrelle Revis, Mike Haynes, Raymond Clayborn
>FS - Devin McCourty
>SS - Lawyer Milloy
>K - Gostowski (or Vinatieri whatever)
>P - based Rich Camarillo
> kick returns - Ellis Hobbs
>punt returns - Troy Brown
>coach - Hoodie
>DC - Crennel
>OC - McDaniels
>ST - Scott O'Brien

>>63308029
>Get BTFO
>Change the subject

>>63308043
Todd Gurley is really good. The rest suck some serious shit.

>>63307819
what team is this for?

>>63308043
>Steelers

Meh, Bud Dupree has been better than expected.

I can't believe I want that faggot Rodgers to assrape the Scamthers

>>63308095

The Rams.

>>63308082
>7 wins

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Great trade Balke. Two 6th round picks? That's all! Plus you send a 7th round to the Broncos?

>fucking retarded

>>63308095
The Rams. Figured there were enough well known names there from the GSOT to make that obvious. Not to mention the best interior defender in the NFL today.

>>63308020
>top 1/16 of Peyton's head

>>63304765
why dont NFL teams loan players???

>>63308083
I don't think this team would ever lose simply because of Brady, Moss, Gronk and Belichick

>>63308043
Yeldon's aight

>>63308034

The times they are a changin.

>>63308072

Gurley missed a few games. Although if no one figures him out he could lead in rushing yards.

>>63308090
See >>63307484
>>63307807

@AdamSchefter 38s39 seconds ago
And so it begins in Indy: Colts have fired offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton, sources tell @MikeWellsNFL and me.

>>63307658
Because he is consistently the same.
He isn't doing anything diferent.
Someone that turns a team around deserves the award.
Worth noting that Kubiak there means Wade Phillips.

>>63308056

As a Panthers fan, my issue with Ron is his unwillingness to drop Shula as OC.

That and defensive coaches shouldn't be head coaches.

>>63307926
And Brady in Denver has a very different track record then Brady in other stadiums.

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>>63308117
>Naners are fucked

>>63308125
Loan for what? Money has no value when the league has a salary cap

>>63308113
Out of a season everyone else gave up on

>>63308145
How long until they bench Luck?

>>63308130
>Gurley missed a few games. Although if no one figures him out he could lead in rushing yards.
Despite having roughly 60 fewer attempts, he's only about 100 yards behind the leading rusher, Devonta Freeman. Despite having a game where he ended with about 5 yards on his resume, he still is averaging over 100 yards per game. He'll lock up the yardage lead position if he doesn't get hurt.

>>63308117

On the downside of his career, what the fuck did you expect?

>>63308145

Good. The guy is a buffoon and had no business being in the NFL.

>>63308043
>Shaq is kill
>Funchess has KB's drops without the garbage time stats
>CAP's longest rush is for like 11 yards
>Everyone else is irrelevant

Pretty shitty but that's a problem for next year, I can't be that mad when what we had in place has us at 7-0

>>63308070
That's going to be hard to watch after McCown being a decent throwing QB.

>>63308044
I already expected that. Lets be real.

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>>63307474
Darren Sproles / Jason Peters rip
Nolan Carrol because every other corner a shit and he is actually good
Marcus peters and if he is not allowed because 1st rounder, Deandre Hopkins and again if too famous, Chris Matthews because he didn't drop dragons during the owl
>>63307641
all you had to say was all time franchise team you stupid nigger

>>63308125
Because they aren't faggots like soccer leagues.

I watched one match where the fans were throwing garbage on the field and shinning lights into the kickers eyes. Why didn't they just have the home team forfeit the match right then and there?

>>63308148
>consistently great
>worse than coming up with some meme system that stops working after one season