SD:RB Oliver (turf toe) sent to injured reserve
CLE:Report: Broncos trying to acquire Joe Thomas
CLE:Manziel expected to start Thursday's game
SD:Bolts sending Keenan Allen (kidney) to I.R.
NYG:Darkwa dealing with 'badly bruised tailbone'
TEN:Mularkey will scheme for Mariota's strengths
SD:Keenan undergoes 'procedure,' shaky for 2015
FA:Cowboys give up on ex-starter Joseph Randle
CIN:OC Jackson: 'Arrow is pointing up' on Hill
PIT:Tomlin confirms DeAngelo is 'feature' back
SF:49ers add veteran back Pierre Thomas
DAL:'No reason' to think Romo not ready Week 11
OAK: Raiders are Raiding and pillaging just for fun.
Its hard to plug and play players like that in the middle of the season. Just look at the Seahawks and Jimmy Graham. They had all offseason to learn how to use him and are still learning.
The only reason Crabtree is playing so hot is because the top safety or corners are double teaming Cooper.
yeah, Woodson is going to make Digg's his bitch and the Raiders are going to show you who the boss of this gym is in 2 weeks.
As a Browns fan I'm fucking glad they didn't trade their only elite player to a team I absolutely fucking hate. The Clowns are the biggest joke in the league but this would be the final straw for me.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 10m10 minutes ago
My understand of the Joe Thomas talks between #Broncos & #Browns is they couldn’t agree on compensation. Could’ve made it work in time.
stupid shits. I doubt the Broncos were the only team they had serious trade talks with, too.
nth for BASED CARR
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>giants above eagles
The Buddy Ryan's Eagles were the original bounty team and they actually tried to injure fucking everyone, unlike the Saints which was a witch hunt. I mean they legitimately went even after kickers and shit, Romo wouldn't last a quarter.
So its pretty much confirmed that Gronk is a Brady baby right? I mean he is good, but he is literally a clone of Travis Kelce. Travis would do just as good if not better if he was in New England. Same with Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis.
Right. That's why I added the "I think". I mean, in paper, it sounds like a good movie, but in the NFL things rarely work like they seem to in paper.
Having Mularkey now sounds pretty terrible, tho'.
>he doesn't think Flacco is elite, Typhlosion
>oh my god what a dumb cunt
>same people who complained when I moved the Eagles up to 11 after beating the Giants despite playing like shit
Plus I'm always kinda iffy about moving teams up or down on a bye week. But if the Eagles beat Dallas next week they'll likely move up over the Giants. We'll see :P
I know they played bad but it's only their first loss. When they lose to Carolina they'll probably drop to like 10 or 11 though.
Yes I hate me too.
The Broncos right now with Tebow at QB would literally be a better version of the 2013-14 Seahawks. Their defense is just as good and their offense would be much better than Seattle's was. They would probably be the favorites to win the Super Bowl, even ahead of the Pats.
Instead they will lose to the Bengals in the Divisional Round when Peyton goes 12-27, 142 yard, with 1 TD and 3 Picks.
So this Rams VS Vikings game though...
Fun Fact: Game 1 last year Ram vs Vikes was the last time anyone has heard from Cordarrelle Patterson
They seen him rush for a 67 yard touchdown and then right out of the stadium forever.
I dont really give a shit if the Titans win another game, I just want Mariota to make it through the season without hurting his knee any further. I highly doubt he will be the future head coach anyway.
>Same with Jimmy Graham
Jimmy can't block, he's pretty much just a slow-ass WR.
As am I, mang. As am I. I knew they were going to go for him, but why waste the time if they couldn't get it done? With Ty Sambrailo out for the season, do you think the Vernon Davis trade will positively impact them?
>a TE who can't block is a WR
Hate this meme. Equating that ginger half-nigger to a WR is an insult to even the shittiest WR out there. He literally can't get a yard if you put a corner on him instead of safety/linebacker.
defense >>>>>>> offense in the end, m8. buncos learned that 2 years ago, they will be in the AFCCG unless they play the pats in the WC or div.
interception means the rest of the Saints TD drive doesn't happen, ergo Brees only finishes with 6 TDs like Eli
>interception means the rest of the Saints TD drive doesn't happen
That drive ended in a turnover either way
Late on this, but that Vernon Davis deal was meh. Buncos didn't give up a lot for him, but the guy just isn't good anymore. He definitely isn't going to cause havoc on NE's elite defense. I still say Pats beat Denver by 10 in Mile High then in the playoffs, final score - Pats win 45-13
Holy shit. Ray Farmer is giving a presser for the first time this season and getting grilled about his terrible draft picks
dude literally has sweat pouring down his face. Embarassing desu senpai.
have brothers, let alone twins ever played on the same SB-winning team?
>all those fuckers saying Brees would struggle without Graham
>currently a better QB rating than last year
>Ben fucking Watson having better number than Graham
Can /sp/ finally acknowledge that Brees is the one molding this trash players to gold? He's literally capable of posting videogame numbers with utter shit for teammates.
>1991 defense with 2004 offense plus dawkins, sheppard, and lewis
throw in akers and some good clock management and >tfw
I'm not too sure myself
I'm pretty sure he'd be an upgrade over Byron Bell though I don't know how well he's doing
Of course him being moved inside would mean the Titans still have no RT but better that than ruining the confidence of a rookie
That's what I was thinking. It's probably a variety of factors. VD's lack of production, mixed with tension in the locker room between him and Kaep. I really wish they could've landed Thomas though. That o-line is seriously unstable.
So the Charlotte sports radio station I listen to does this thing called loser radio where we listen to some of the radio broadcast of our opponents after a win. Holy shit the Colts radio caller was soooo salty last night. By far the most booty blasted of any of our opponents all season. He was even taking shots at cam for bowing and stuff. How mad does a fan base have to be for their radio announcers to come across with that level of butthurt?
I dont understand though. stafford puts up huge numbers airing it out every down, but is shit when he is made into a game manager.
why would they do this? are the lions intentionallty trying to make stafford into a bust? he was on track to be the next Farve but he was turned into a worse Jay Cutler. Im fucking angry tb.h
>Seahawks, Giants, Jets with whatever QB they pull off the streets ahead of the Eagles
I can understand putting the skins above them, even though I don't agree. But this is a shit ranking, desu.
>Dan Skuta, Sergio Brown, Davon House, Julius Thomas, Jared Odrick
>Skuta was a good pickup
>Sergio Brown is shit
>Davon House is super okay
>Julius Thomas finds reasons not to play
>Jared Odrick is meh
>Aaron Rodgers - 77 yards, 0 TDs had a higher QBR this week than Brady - 356 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs
He was asking too much and I think the run defense is still good. The Lions are 1-7 so I don't think Ngata is doing very well there. They also drafted Za Darius Smith with that trade, he's a solid backup.
Could've worked if Elam wasn't injured.
Wasn't really expecting much of him, BB never lets go a still useful player. He sucks here.
So far so good. Having Marlon Brown out of the field did good against both Chargers and Cardinals.
>trades/FA signings during offseason or early season
>How you feel about that trade or signings
garbo, glad he's gone
okay I guess. haven't seen much of him
I don't think he's played yet IIRC
definitely. He gets paid to help win games, not to be a model fucking citizen. Idc if he smokes weed after a 150 2 TD game. Shit, I don't care if he goes and beats up a hobo after a game like that. If you help the team I cheer for win I like you. It's honestly that simple. You can do no wrong in my mind if you're good.
Let's be honest here, JJ Watt could be placed at QB, throw 1/13 for -6 yards and one pick and he would still have a higher QBR than Joe Flacco or Dalton throwing for 60% 310yds and 2TD with no picks.
They keep blowing teams out and have the highest point differential. Some of that is the fact that patriots run up the score instead of running out the clock though. It's understandable why people rank them #1 but they've started looking much more beatable recently and the teams they played are getting exposed.
ESPN's arbitrary rating for a QB that covers more bases(like a QB running) and simplifies things to a 0-100 scale than the NFL's arbitrary Passer Rating(which ignores any runs a passer makes) and goes from 0-152.7.
Also, QBR doesn't penalize a QB's score as much as Passer Rating does when a receiver drops a perfectly thrown ball.
On paper, it's a more effective and accurate look at a QB's performance and contribution to the team than the old NFL passer rating, which didn't account for modern read-option quarterbacks or have leeway to the actual events on the field. Just measuring completions and TDs with no regard to how it happened or how well they were played.
>YFW ALL OF THE HEADCOACHES IN JAGUARS' FRANCHISE HISTORY ARE HEAD COACHES RIGHT NOW
It's only close when the other team is confident that they will win so they begin sitting starters, yet still manage to win. I don't understand why they haven't fired Pagano mid-season, they clearly aren't going anywhere even if they somehow do make it to the wildcard round.
That's the whole point
Passer rating is what matters
QBR is a made up stat by ESPN that they give no information on how it is derived
It could simply be a measure of how many dicks the qb sucks pre game and have nothing to do with passing stats
I don't give two shits if he smokes his dope every day, but if whether I mind him smoking weed or not doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is, if he smokes and gets caught, he gets a suspension. If think twice about sinking a lot of money into someone who's one fun night away from being out of the league.
iirc if he wins his appeal of the suspension he got for missing that 2014 meeting, he can become a FA after this season.
You also have to consider the Broncos almost lost to the Ravens and Browns and struggled with the Chiefs.
Opponents records are tricky, teams like the Packers haven't really beat anyone worthy and have struggled against bad teams also.
>Be Panthers fan
>One of the better recent track records with staying out of legal headlines
>Great coaching staff
>Need for a non-KB WR with actual upside
If we could afford him after giving Norman his money, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
how does that relate to what his rating should be lel
if a QB has a good game, a rating of his performance as a QB should be better than the rating of a QB who has a worse game
also brady has literally never thrown for that few yards with at least 20 attempts just FYI
Who sat their starters? I don't remember no one sat their starters down. Also it's not all Pagano fault. If you didn't know, Grigson mostly do all the saying, Pagano does little, which is why Grigson should be terminated also.
At this point, it really doesn't matter. The next game against the Broncos should play evenly.
>Brady is surrounded by a better team that carries his ass when he gets shoddy
It's the other way around. Brady carries the team when they get shoddy.
>Favorite player on your team
>Player you feel isn't given enough credit on your team
>One player who isn't a huge star or icon from another team you wish your team had
Good lord, as long as Belicheat doesn't have some super secret plan this time, the Broncos are going to eat the Pats alive.
OFFICIAL NONAUTISMAL COACH OTY WEEK 9 RANKINGS:
1. Ron Rivera
2. Gary Kubiak
3. Bill Belicheck
4. Jack Del Rio
-----DECENT SHOT TIER-----
5. Mike Zimmer
6. Marvin Lewis
7. Dan Quinn
8. Bruce Arians
-----DARK HORSE TIER-----
9. Todd Bowles
10. Sean Payton
11. Jeff Fisher
12. Dave Campbell
-----MAYBE IF THEY GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER TIER-----
13. Jay Gruden
14. Lovie Smith
15. Pete Carroll
16. Mike Tomlin
Think back on your teams history. Any player they've had for at least 1 full season. Imagine them in their prime. Now fill out your teams perfect roster. Guys from the 70s playing with your current starter. qb, rb, fb, wrs, OL, DL, LB, kicker, fucking punter if you want to. Your perfect team full of your teams players. Copy and paste below so it'll be easier to fill out.
>kick returns (can be a player already listed like if you had a WR returning kicks)
>punt returner (see above)
>special teams coach
why is Belichick never #1 despite being consistently the best?
>wow Rivera did a shit job last year and a good job this year that must make him better than a consistently good coach
Apples and oranges, we're looking at this only from a JEST defensive angle.
Offensively there were to many variables to make a fair comparision, especially with Fritzpatrick being knocked out early. Defensively, the Raiders put up over 10 times as many rushing yards against the JESTS as the Pats. Now let's seem them go up against an elite D-line like the Broncos are packing IN mile high. As I said before, unless Belicheat has some super secret plan to decode the Bronco's defense and Manning's arm gives out on him. Their chances are not looking good. Especially after the Broncos just manhandled the best team in the NFC.
Depends on a few things.
1. What Winston does from this point forward as he's the strongest QB rookie at this point and QBs get the inside track.
2. Whether Cooper will be pushed as to make up for Carr not being in the MVP or offensive player of the year running.
3. If Gurley can keep up this pace would being overworked and ran into the ground. If the Rams can avoid giving him 30 or more carries like the GB game, that may happen.
The whole award is basically a "who made the most of a shit/talentless team" award, unless you win 15+ games. See both Arians teams, Rivera's 2013 team, and Harbaugh's 2011 team. That's the only problem with Bill tbqh flam, he's doing what he always does.
>They actually turned down trade offers for him, what the fuck, man.
I know. Then they sign Dreamius to practice-squad.
Like, fucking get rid of him. Dreamius can take over for BO while he's injured. Brown does nothing.
Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Tom Fears, Elroy Hirsch
Robert Quinn and Deacon Jones
Aaron Donald and Merlin Olsen
Jack Reynolds and Kevin Greene
Dick Lane, Jerry Gray, Janoris Jenkins, Pat Thomas
>special teams coach
Bills manhandled the Colts before facing the Patriots and Colts were considered one of the Super Bowl favourites at that time.
Jets had the number #1 defense in scoring and yards before facing the Patriots
The revisionist history that goes in here is hilarious.
Week 14 last year Buffalo held Peyton to 170 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs, week 15 they held Rodgers to 180 yards 0 TDs, 2 INTs. Finished #2 in the league in defense, #1 in the league in sacks, and that was used as proof all summer that they'd destroy the Patriots this year.
Then they start this year by dominating Andrew Luck in week 1.
In week 2 the Pats would stand no chance IN buffalo. The Cold Front would demolish them.
All forgotten now of course.
No it goes to the best rookie, it's not surprising that the best college player goes on to have success as a rookie, that doesn't make a it a QB only award.
Here this should help your education
Sadly, Jay Cutler
God damn.... Harlon Hill, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, Marcus Robinson?
Keith Van Horne
Richard Dent, Julius Peppers in his prime
Danimal and Mongo
Lance Briggs and Otis Wilson
Butkus, then Urlacher
Tillman, Bennie Mcrae, Donnell Woolford, Walt Harris
Gary Fencik, healthy Mike Brown
>>kick returns (can be a player already listed like if you had a WR returning kicks)
>>punt returner (see above)
>>special teams coach
The defense, O line and running game would be better than any other teams. The receivers and QB leave room to be desired
>Implying Clowney isn't a future Hall of Famer if he goes to a 4-3 team instead of that craptastic 3-4 Houston runs
>Then they start this year by dominating Andrew Luck in week 1.
Turns out that nigga sucks tho.
Seriously, none of what the Bills and Jets did compares to demolishing a 6-0 team that was supposed to be the obvious second best team before the game started, with their MVP level QB throwing for 77 yards.
Sure some will overreact, but its fucking fair to think the Pats will be challenged on the road in the same conditions if everything holds until then.
A top 5 team should already be a superb owl contender. All that coach did was re-arrange some of weak points as opposed to having to work with an organization that's in shambles that every sees as an easy win.
>Seriously, none of what the Bills and Jets did compares to demolishing a 6-0 team that was supposed to be the obvious second best team before the game started, with their MVP level QB throwing for 77 yards.
And before the Bills game Colts were considered the best team in the AFC and a Super Bowl favourite. Their quarterback was the MVP favourite as well. Green Bay and Rodgers were overrated before the Denver game just like Colts were overrated before the Bills game
>Not having Ditka clone himself and play all positions.
You namefag are clearly not a superfan. I question if you're just a fan.
Let's go over this real fast.
2010 OROTY: Sam Bradford, Mike Williams, and Maurkice Pouncey. This is a fucking easy choice, especially since Bradford got the Rams more wins in his one year than they had the previous 3 combined.
2011 OROTY: Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, AJ Green. It's really only between AJ Green and Cam Newton here. Green had an amazing rookie year, with over 1000 yards and 7 TDs. Cam Newton threw for 4k yards, 21 passing TD's, and 14 rushing TD's. Easy easy choice. Cam wins.
2012 OROTY: RG3, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson. The year of the rookie QB. It was always a tight race between Luck and RG3, since Wilson didn't really come on until the end of the year. RG3 set rookie records in QB rushing and passer rating. He was a legitimate stud. He also lead the league with 8.14 YPA, and tied with Tom Brady for lowest INT % in the NFL. The dude was simply nuts and deserved this award.
Browns fan here. Why is Johnny Football called a "meme quarterback" here? What can I expect from him Thursday with McCown dead?
>Panthers fans wanted Rivera fired last season
>now he's apparently the coach of the year
He won't even finish 2nd in voting, despite deserving it. People will remember his garbage week 1 performance and assume that's what he did all year. Gurley will probably lead the league in rushing yards, rushing yards per attempt, and other nonsensical bullshit because he's stupid. Unless he dies, he's winning the award.
>QB - Brady
>RB - Curtis Martin
>FB - Mosi Tatupu
>WR's - Cappaletti, Morgan, Moss, Welker
>Guards - John hannah, Logan Mankins
>Center - Jon Morris
>Tackles - Bruce Armstrong, Matt Light
>TE - Gronk (Ben Coates honorable mention)
>DE - Julius Adams, Richard Seymour
>DT - Houston Antwine, Vince Wilfork
>OLB - Andre Tippett, Willie McGinest
>MLB - Steve Nelson
>CB - Ty Law, Darrelle Revis, Mike Haynes, Raymond Clayborn
>FS - Devin McCourty
>SS - Lawyer Milloy
>K - Gostowski (or Vinatieri whatever)
>P - based Rich Camarillo
> kick returns - Ellis Hobbs
>punt returns - Troy Brown
>coach - Hoodie
>DC - Crennel
>OC - McDaniels
>ST - Scott O'Brien
Great trade Balke. Two 6th round picks? That's all! Plus you send a 7th round to the Broncos?
The times they are a changin.
Gurley missed a few games. Although if no one figures him out he could lead in rushing yards.
>Gurley missed a few games. Although if no one figures him out he could lead in rushing yards.
Despite having roughly 60 fewer attempts, he's only about 100 yards behind the leading rusher, Devonta Freeman. Despite having a game where he ended with about 5 yards on his resume, he still is averaging over 100 yards per game. He'll lock up the yardage lead position if he doesn't get hurt.
>Shaq is kill
>Funchess has KB's drops without the garbage time stats
>CAP's longest rush is for like 11 yards
>Everyone else is irrelevant
Pretty shitty but that's a problem for next year, I can't be that mad when what we had in place has us at 7-0
Darren Sproles / Jason Peters rip
Nolan Carrol because every other corner a shit and he is actually good
Marcus peters and if he is not allowed because 1st rounder, Deandre Hopkins and again if too famous, Chris Matthews because he didn't drop dragons during the owl
all you had to say was all time franchise team you stupid nigger
Because they aren't faggots like soccer leagues.
I watched one match where the fans were throwing garbage on the field and shinning lights into the kickers eyes. Why didn't they just have the home team forfeit the match right then and there?
>muh transitive property
Jets now have no offensive, so their D had to stay on the field the entire time, not comparable.
>unless Belicheat has some super secret plan
So guaranteed Pats blowout win?
Shane Lechler (sorry Ray)
Bill Romanowski (fuck it, go out there and kill everyone)
>special teams coach
Bill Callahan (most so Gruden can mug at him all day)
At least it's not Hurney.
>we passed on Alshon Motherfucking Jeffery in a year we needed WR to draft a goddamn fucking guard who is a reserve tackle that can't even win a starting job over Mike motherfucking Rimjob Remmers.
>tfw the Patriots go 19-0 and there is no meme-tier deflategate controversy for us to asterisk them
WHAT THE FUCK WILL WE DO
He's currently a free agent? You think anyone will pick him up anytime soon?
YEAH BUT THEY KEEP SAYING ONLY CASUAL SPORTS FANS CALLT HEM CHEATERS
HOW DO WE EVEN COME BACK AT THAT?
I see a worrying trend in the award.
If he isn't an MVP consideration I would suspect it goes to a Heisman shitter QB who has "brought life back to his team".
I don't think he doesn't deserve it, or Cooper. But they have a poor chance of winning.
And 3 of the last 5 were QB's.
the Browns were legitimately going to take Carr with their second first round pick. GM had told him upfront he wasn't falling past 26 (it was 26 right?). Then Haslam went full tard and overruled him.
is there any more alpha and GOAT nickname than minister of defense?
I WISH THEY WERE
BUT THEY KEEP ON WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
How many offensive players would have their bodies broken against the Soul Patrol? Manning and Brady would have to be carted off the field the first game
Suh should've won in 2010.
I in no way think it goes to the best rookie. And it will become as QB dominated award as the league becomes passing dominated. Which is already happening.
Hated gays and didn't give a fuck who knew it
Rodgers and the Packers at home since 2013
>35 ppg scored
>18.6 ppg allowed
>294 passing yards per game
>44 passing TDs
Rodgers and the Packers away since 2013
>21.7 ppg scored
>24 ppg allowed
>252 passing yards per game
>25 passing TDs
Why do people act like beating them outside of their meme stadium is some huge achievement?
>Rich Gannon starts in all regular season and non rivalry playoff games.
>Jim Plunkett starts in all playoff games
>Ken Stabler comes in whenever the game seems lost or magic is needed.
No one fucking cares, it should be like MVP.
Oh wait it is like MVP, only QB's win and people on the internet bitch about it.
>the patriots are going to win at least two more super bowls and there is nothing I can do about it
Just watched the Ray Farmer press conference. Holy fuck what damage control.
>sweating profusely like Pepe
>asks for a napkin to wipe the sweat from his face
>"W-we didn't do anything. W-we d-d-didn't make offers or field an o-offers."
>"J-Johnny can be the franchise QB of the future."
I don't care about rookie of the year.
It's a QB award.
That said, a QB will win it mr rookie of le year expert. And sadly, you know it's true.
please discern between signs keeps and let go
osemele is a signfu
i hope he gets benched for sanchez, the only way we get a winning season and maybe a playoff spot
thurmond carroll and curry keep
bair has been objectively better than thornton
desu i would have been so butthurt if they traded and got a top reciever like cj-
Don't forget a few random punches just to make sure the guy knew they didn't give a fuck about sportsmanship.
Yes, it was niggerly as fuck, but it made teams scared to play them because they knew the Raiders would play until the whistle. Well, the 18th or 19th whistle.
He's only leaving after 2016 if he can find a QB-desperate team that has the pieces besides that to win. Only the Jest, Rams, and Broncos come to mind as actual upgrades over what he has, though if the Rams move to LA a return to Cali could be compelling.
>punch you in the head but since I was looking the other way He Din Du Nuffin
>lots of nigger tactics
Now sit back and enjoy the gifs
>be 17 me
>Raiders stomp the ever loving fuck out of the Titans in the AFCG
>Iggles vs Bucs NFCG
>below 20 degrees
>Bucs have never beaten the Iggles
>Iggles stomped the Bucs earlier in the year
>last game in Vet stadium
>Raiders vs Iggls 2: The Rectal Savaging Returns
>my fucking face when (after I finished laughing for a week straight at all the Iggle fans around me)
>Peyton Manning is 39
>Tom Brady is 38
where has the time gone, friends
s a n c h e z
don't give sammyb shit
>handsome man is back against dallas this week
>talented d that tampa had that year
more like pro bowlers / good or betterat every defensive position and like 2 maybe 3 hofers sapp brooks;; lynch
>Charles Woodson is 39
I remember watching him get drafted
The Lions offense was perfectly fine during the Linehan days. Their Oline was really progressing, Calvin was putting up numbers and Stafford was playing at a high level. The biggest problem was no receivers. Yes they had Calvin but they had very little numbers. This led to nothing but deep bombs to Calvin on every play which in turn led to turnovers. Yes the lions turned the ball over a lot but they put up numbers and were a few weapons away from an elite offense. Enter the new coaching staff who wanted to "fix" Stafford and prevent him from causing so many turnovers. This led to a zone blocking horizontal offense which actually did help with the turnover problem last year but limited production immensely. The Lions have a lot of weapons now, if they were in a Scott Linehan offense still they probably would be a top ten offense.
Probably the best gunner in the NFL right now, which is exactly what you want your fucking top 12 pick to be. Gonna have to wait and see if he ever contributes on defense or if we wasted yet another first round pick on a guy that only plays on special teams.
Legit DROY candidate. Pass coverage a slight weakness but not enough that he's a liability.
Pretty good, has impressive edge rushing speed. Great to have in the defensive line rotation.
About what you'd expect for a 4th round offensive lineman. Just good enough to be a starter but nothing special right now, though he has improved in his pass protection.
Haven't seen enough of him but he looks good when he gets the opportunity. He did see a lot of snaps against Chicago. Would like to see him get more playing time.
Steal of the entire fucking draft. Already better than every wide receiver drafted ahead of him except Amari Cooper. Fantastic route running and blazing speed.
On the Jags' practice squad.
Practice squad guy. Probably worthless.
Haven't seen much of him at all. Liked the pick though.
Doesn't get on the field for defensive snaps at all, so he's almost certainly worthless.
All in all pretty great
whites only senpai
>their off field actions keep them off the field
>He watches The Real Housewives
>1 (20) - Nelson Agholor, WR, USC
he is supposed to be maclin 2.0 literally the same measurements across the board in every combine measurable including 3 cone drills with slightly bigger hands
one of the most developed sure hands and route running out of college
now he can run routes but can't catch for shit and jordan matthews forgot how to catch
we just can't have nice things
>2 (47) - Eric Rowe, DB, Utah
hes decent i guess turnover babby
>3 (84) - Jordan Hicks, LB, Texas
actual ROTY candidate hes a baller and from the 3rd round
>6 (191) - JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas
Was so fucking hyped to have him people passed because he was injured, allowed literally 0 deep ball completions his entire college career
his knees committed Sudoku in the offseason and we never get to see him play until next year
>6 (196) - Randall Evans, CB, Kansas State
no playing time retard depth pick maybe he turns out to be great, obv we aren't that lucky
>7 (237) - Brian Mihalik, DE, Boston College
chip likes big guys and i didn't know any other reason why he picked him, either way practice squad 6'9 maybe he can develop with that size, biggest player in the league i think
sorry to burst your bubble but chris maragos is the best gunner
Marino put up godly numbers decades before anyone else started to and did it with no help around him
Montana was a great QB on a team that would have won rings with someone else at QB
Elway was a great QB without much help around him, only reason he is remembered differently than Marino is that Davis carried him to a couple rings when he was 40
If off-the-field actions keep a player off the field via suspension or arrest then yes I'll judge them
I would argue Gannon did a lot better than most other QBs did in that situation because the Raiders were using Gruden's playbook. So what's the only thing that could beat the Raiders? Gruden running a very good Defense on another team.
Listen to the miked up Buc players in that game, they're all basically going 'Hey man, they're running the play exactly how the coach said they would.' for the first two quarters.
The fact that the Raiders were able to score anything was damn impressive.
Now keep in mind, the Seahawks just decoded the general plays the Broncos used last year. If they had the Bronco's playbook, they would have destroyed them.
But if you didn't care they would stay on the field.
Like the good ole days.
Have you considered reality TV? I'm sure there's plenty of nigger shows.
hasn't seen the field too much but hasn't been to bad when he has been on the field. he still has room to grow since this is only his second year playing CB
one of the steals of the draft
>Dante "Kendrick Lamar" Fowler Jr
He's the distant #2 behind Gurley among rookie RBs this year, I'm okay with that
Fan-fucking-tastic. The Jaguars might literally have landed bookend elite guards.
Pretty good, will probably take Cyprien's job but mostly because Cyprien is awful
Became a literal who after Brian Walters took his job when he got injured
Practice Squad all-star
Only on the team because of injuries
>it's peps fault the O line is shit
>it's peps fault the defense is shit
The offense was fine last year when Pep UNLEASHED Luck. DESU I'm only butthurt because pagano wasn't fired too when he's more responsible and is a scumbag ice the kicker piece of shit
>Laken Tomlinson OG
He was put into a bad position as a rookie. He has made some mistakes but I think he's playing well for the shit storm he was just thrown into.
>Ameer Ackbar Abdullah Mohammad RB
Fumbles are a big problem. I dont think they are giving him much of a chance though, he has like 7 carries the past two games. The fumbles will always be a problem but I think he still has potential to make some big plays
>Alex Carter CB
Retarded pick, could have gotten some much needed talent on Dline here. Just another wasted CB pretty much.
>Gabe Wright DT
He has been okay. Only has 5 tackles but hasn't started much. Kinda hard to judge at this point.
>Michael Burton FB
Again a bad pick. Last in the league in rushing so obviously not helping much.
>Quandre Diggs CB
Pretty good pick for a 6th rounder. He has had some broken coverages but I'm not expecting much from a 6th round CB. He's made a few good tackles.
>Corey Robinson OT
I think he's only played a few snaps. Just depth pretty much
>UDFA Zach Zenner HB
Fucking based. He's out for the season from a nasty hit but he's probably gonna end up taking Joique Bell's job.
>lol lets punch a guy after the refs blow the play dead
no anon, that is being a nigger i hope you don't actually believe this is good sportsmanship and that you are trolling
other wise you are a full cuc(k for bbc
Get your furfag vidya shit out of here
>Fan-fucking-tastic. The Jaguars might literally have landed bookend elite guards.
Fuck that, I wanted the Patriots to get him. Instead they picked a 3rd string, no name safety. Meanwhile they're now one injury away from having to play TEs as guards/tackles
all >we need is Pagano and Irsay to fuck off and >our team can finally be more than just AFC South winners and a early playoff exit
thanks for clearing that up
heres the final (you) you're getting from me
really need to step your game up senpai