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Graph thread? Graph thread
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>>24271228
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>>24271394
>Laura Southern
Nice.
>Milo
Didn't he steal grant money?
>>24271585
Farage is awesome, and Sam Hyde is great.
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>>24271636
"The Privilege Grant is in the process of applying for charity status with the U.S. government. The current plan is for the Privilege Grant to run a pilot grant program for the Spring semester of the 2016-2017 school year, and then administer the full grant program for the 2017-2018 school year."
I dont know but this is what the site says https://privilegegrant.com/news/
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Made this a while back, went pretty overboard

>>24271394
Yes Milo and Lauren
>>24271585
Morrowind, Farage and the world's greatest superhero, good choices
>>24271636
Good choices in metal
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>>24271857
>drug
>jesus
man you traditionalist neo-cons are really fucking lame.
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>>24271725
Ok, so I just looked it up and I found out the $100,000 grant was overdue and wasn't able to be used this 16-17 school year, so it went into his bank account. He denies spending any of it, and says next year it will help a "privileged male" as it was supposed to this year. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but that's what I found.
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I'm a walking meme

>>24271233
>Traveling
Where are some of the places you've been anon?

>>24271235
Thanksgiving is a comfy holiday
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>>24272199
my nigga with algernon
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>>24271233
+Clash, Garbage, Black Flag, exploring

>>24271585
+Twilight Zone

>>24271857
+Rammstein, Lamborghini Countach

>>24272633
++Halloween
+Clerks
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>>24272633
that movie list makes me rock hard, rip
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>>24271228
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>>24271233
That's a weird choice for a favourite Maiden album.
>>24271585
Christmas best holiday.
>>24271636
Good music taste.
You want to be a wrestler?
>>24272725
>witchcraft
You wot?
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>>24272803
Just my preference

>>24272199
Not so much right now, but more so something I plan on doing when I graduate college. Currently it's mostly exploring around the Tri-state.
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>>24272803
Wrestling is something that if I was at peak physical and mental state I would try and do, just because it wears you down being on the road over 90% of the year without seeing family and stuff, but I'm doing STEM in college because its what I can do. It's just a nice fantasy to think about sometimes.
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>>24271585
Based Shkreli

>>24271636
Whats the dish in your favourite foods? Looks yummy bro
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>>24272722
what do you think about waste yrself?
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>>24271233
Lel

>>24271235
I, too, wish to become smug.

>>24271585
>Superhero
>Shkreli
Now, that's what I call edgy.

>>24271857
What's up with Laos?

>>24272633
>center-left
My sister of African-american descent

>>24272803
Good taste in animu, my man.

>>24272847
Damn, if you weren't a dude I'd want you as a gf. Oh well.
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>>24273372
Had some weird experiences in Vientiane when I was travelling this summer, unfortunately coloured my view of the whole country
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Bamp

Also

>>24272847

>if female, gf material
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>>24273280
On Avery Island > ItAotS
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>>24273586
i like avery a lot, but its not as cohesive and emotionally profound to me
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>>24273248
The dish is cheeseburger gnocchi, I first made it in a culinary class, been my favorite since.
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Blarg, mostly all str8 boys here

>>24271233
Would play Arma with.
>>24272782
You seem super cool and I would love to play vidya/watch movies with. BUT, I think I am pretty close to "who I never want to be" in your sheet.
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Do anybody read these? I do.

I enjoyed making it, so whatever.
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Capitalism is good.
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>>24271233
good book & vidya

>>24271235
back off poklonskaya is my waifu

>>24271394
What Language you program in?

>>24271585
top shkreli

>>24271636
hello fellow virgin

>>24272199
hello fellow masshole
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>>24274572
C++ and C
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>>24273280
STILL A GREAT ALBUM, DESU
i adore almost all teen suicide besides the new album
you seem cute <3
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>>24273827
mainly, my never want to be section was modeled after a specific person, so I doubt you'd be a problem
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>>24271233
>Trump
>Fascist

>>24271394
>Rich Mexican
DIdn't know those existed, what do you do?
>Dem politics

>>24271585
The Morrowind soundtrack is probably the best video game soundtrack ever. Have you heard of Skywind?

>>24274562
Literally immigrate to chile / get you naturalized status until
>feminist theory
But how? Y-your compass? Does Chile have any real sexism issues?

>>24275376
Who is the comedian?

>>24275517
Explains the rich mexican
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>>24275376
Ron Paul. Mah nigga
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>>24271394
>Laura Southern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPAzDhQrsWY
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Fuck, I'm average.
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>>24272633
good taste, fancy bg
>>24275376
good art
>>24277051
good music
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>>24276877
>Trump
>Fascist

I meant more so that alot of his supporters seem quite Fascist, not necessarily him.
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>>24278024
Do you even know what fascism means or do you just use it as "political bully"?
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>>24276877
What's wrong with feminist theory?
What about my compass? btw, it's really weird you think you are more libertarian than what the test says, because that test is very heavily biased towards libertarian left.
Regarding sexism issues in my country? They seem to be at the point of semi-crazy feminism right now, at least at unis.

>>24278XXX
Do you really need to ask? He's clearly parroting anything he hears other people say.
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>>24278174
>What's wrong with feminist theory? What about my compass?
Well, I don't think putting men in jail over mutually consensual (at the time) sex or for eye-rape, or normal flirting is very libertarian. Neither is automatic custody in divorce proceedings. Or diversity quotas. Feminism succeeded with enfranchisement, anything after is basically restricting freedom of association or in violation of the NAP.
>Telling private companies who they MUST hire isn't libertarian

> btw, it's really weird you think you are more libertarian than what the test says
I think they weighted immigration issues very heavily authoritarian. Free movement of people is nice in theory but only works if everyone is a libertarian to begin with. It's a feels vs reals issue for me. I don't think ISIS believes in the non-aggression principle. I don't think immigrants who come here for welfare are very libertarian either.

>They seem to be at the point of semi-crazy feminism right now, at least at unis.
Well, at least we agree there is a point where feminism gets crazy, I'm just worried you believe that nonsense like rape culture and wage gap and literally anything other than a signed contract of consent is rape.

>He's clearly parroting anything he hears other people say
Who are you replying to?

>ID change because power went out, got new IP.
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>>24278210
Yeah, and none of those have to do with feminist theory...
Also, the NAP is pretty stupid, and I'm not a fanatic libertarian.
Rape culture is a delicate issue. Wage gap is a real thing, because females as of now do actually have some real reasons they get paid less and some are even biological (for example, pregnancies and taking care of a new born child which is usually left to females). The real problem is not so much acknowledging it, but how you can actually fix that.

>>24278157
Last message from >>24278174 was directed to you.
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>>24274562
What field of STEM are you studying?
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>>24278226
>Yeah, and none of those have to do with feminist theory...
So feminism and feminist theory aren't related at all? I have a hard time believing moderate types lobbied for these laws. I might not know what I'm talking about either, I stopped researching/caring about feminism when it got to the point of "All PIV sex is rape, period." At this point, at least in the US, I consider feminism/SJWism (they are basically the same thing here) as an existential threat to society.

>Also, the NAP is pretty stupid
NAP basically means don't use force except in response to force. I don't think that's stupid at all.

>I'm not a fanatic libertarian
I'm not a fanatic anything, except a prepper and Constitutionalist. Open borders and free trade are core tenets of Libertariansim that I disagree with, for example. I think extremely exclusive immigration and protectionism are in my country's best interest at present. I'm more of a pragmatist than anything.

>Rape culture is a delicate issue.
Ok.

>Wage gap is a real thing
For the reasons you mentioned, which, unfortunately is the reality of biology. I mean, I think it sucks that I have no say in whether a woman aborts my child and yet child support is mandatory. Reality isn't always fair. Dropping out of the workforce for child rearing destroys your career and lowers your lifetime earnings in comparison to those who don't take 3 years off for obvious reasons. Establishing a career in the first place might take more years than you are actually fertile. Women also tend to choose non-STEM careers for whatever reason.

But to imply that that women get paid less salary/hourly than men for the same job is wrong. Everything I've seen measures lifetime earning averages.

Also what he said >>24278325

¿Usted estaría dispuesto a enseñarme español a través de Skype ?
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Exhausting this was
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>>24278457
So, it was legal to put "none" into sex life box? I thought it was about sex life throughout the whole life, geez
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>>24278325
Computer Science

>>24278349
>So feminism and feminist theory aren't related at all?
Of course they are, but that doesn't mean what is being done in practice is the same as being done in theory or even practice in a smaller scale.

I know what NAP is, and I know it's pretty stupid. It's not always pragmatic.

I too consider myself a pragmatic, that's why I think the NAP can be stupid at times. It would be way better if issues could be settled without making references to the NAP.

I don't think you got the wage gap scenario. Both men and woman study and work for the same jobs, but people are more likely to hire the men applicant because he won't get pregnant in statistical terms, therefore woman earn less just because they are woman.

No me molestaria :)
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>>24271394
>why am I rich?
My parents are the owners of a succesfull law firm here in mexico, therefore I am rich XDXDXD
ps I love having money with out even working XD
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>>24279110
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>>24279075
>Computer Science
pic related. Hardware, software, or networking?

>I too consider myself a pragmatic, that's why I think the NAP can be stupid at times
Well sure, sometimes it's more practical to blow up your problems. I can see that. But I think NAP should be applied first to reduce loss of property, freedom, or life in most scenarios.

>but people are more likely to hire
*Corporations* are more likely to hire men due to statistics because corporations are legally required to maximize profit. Unfortunately the statistics show this is justified. I do not think this is fixable without government interference and socialism.

>No me molestaria
Hurra! No hablo espanol bien. Por favor no odio yo. lol
I barely remember any from high school. Rosetta Stone every now and again, but I never had anyone to practice with :) I will add you tomorrow because it is bed time for me.

>>24279110
>>24279114
Well that's cool and all but
>Pesos
>Money
I think you might be confused
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>>24279292
No speciality yet.

Corporations are more likely to hire men more and pay men more. Why? Because they don't get pregnant. This is very unfair for woman as they get paid less for purely biological reasons not related to talent. A way to fix this could be to expect corporations to hire a specific proportion of men/woman with a certain percentage of error, so that every corporation can be equally competitive with each other. Another could be to force both parents to take care of their childs at the same time, so that both male and female get out of business for the same time. This option is way more risky though.
This should be fixed through government intervention, yet no socialism is needed.
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>>24279377
>Because they don't get pregnant
This is only one of many reasons such as:
>Take more time off per year
>Retire earlier
>Lower performance metrics

>This is very unfair for woman as they get paid less for purely biological reasons not related to talent.
Well men must be conscripted to fight in the front lines of wars, this is unfair because it is purely for biological reasons. I don't think fairness and pragmatism are compatible here.

>A way to fix this could be to expect corporations to hire a specific proportion of men/woman with a certain percentage of error
What about fields like construction and STEM where women - for whatever reason - don't usually go into? Would they be penalized also for under representation? I think diversity quotas give too much power to the state.

>Both parents stay home
How do they get money? Did they save it beforehand? Does the government give it to them?

>forcing private entities to do things in general
Why do you like authoritarianism? Enforce this through unions, not the state
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>>24279635
>Dirty leftist, but at least not authoritarian
How does that work anyway?

+Rise Against
+Fight Club
-Souls meme
-FPS pleb
-generation 4+ pokemon

>How the fuck do you love RPGS and not mention bethesda or bioshock games

>High intelligence and wealth
>Low confidence
Why anon?
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>>24279697
>bethesda or bioshock
**Bethesda or [[BioWare]]**
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>>24279635
>not single
>virgin

what the fuck? you're 23, how are you with somebody that presumably also wants to be with you, but you don't want to fuck?

is it an online thing?
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>>24279697
i simply forgot bethesda, but i never played a bioshock game, i know, one day i'll play them

i put high intelligence because people around me says so
high wealth, well i still live with my family, i have financial resources but they aren't really mine
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>>24279722
yeah, a long distant relationship unfortunately
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>>24279651
>Take more time off per year
Because of pregnancies and child care.
>Retire earlier
This could be argued they should require the same retirement age as men, but it's still a controversial topic
>Lower performance metrics
Explained by the two subjects you mentioned above.

>Well men must be conscripted to fight in the front lines of wars, this is unfair because it is purely for biological reasons.
Exactly. Military should be voluntary, and it usually is in most of the world.
>I don't think fairness and pragmatism are compatible here.
It is in the case of the wage gap.

>What about fields like construction and STEM where women - for whatever reason - don't usually go into? Would they be penalized also for under representation? I think diversity quotas give too much power to the state.
This kind of quotas depends on a case by case basis. In the case of construction, woman don't usually take the job so there is no need to put quotas as nobody could fill them. In the case of STEM those quotas could indeed be needed as there is an important proportion of STEM woman.
This doesn't give any power to the state other than that very specific issue at hand.

>How do they get money? Did they save it beforehand? Does the government give it to them?
The same way woman get the money when they are pregnant and taking care of their new born child. I guess this changes from country to country, but most of the developed world have ways of ensuring an income to woman who had already worked before pregnancy. The idea of this would be to make both the male and the female "pregnant", so that neither of them is at disadvantage.

>Why do you like authoritarianism? Enforce this through unions, not the state
Because I'm pragmatic. The state has some benefits unions don't.
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>over 20
why am i still here
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Prolly pretty beta, but yeah.
>>24271394
seem like a shallow pragmatist.
>>24271857
hella music, love frank zappa fella. I actually enjoy most of your tastes except american psycho which I hated.
>>24272633
best modest mouse, great sufjan, el p, flamin lips, all my jazz right there. Also your TV taste seems like a way drearier version of mine. Also for some reason I love Ryan Gosling dunno why though.
>>24274572
don't really like anything else that you like, but diogenes is a fuckin baller
>>24274714
oof buddy. Kinda shockingly plain to be honest,
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>>24281140
>red quadrant
Explain this
Awful music taste btw
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>>24281140
beta me?
>red quadrant
> idolizing abraham-lincoln(the first republican)
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>>24282599
lmfao
>Austrian memenomics
>Stefan Molyneux
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>>24282599
>Cardiacs
>Pinochet
Great!
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>>24283652
>Chilean Pinochet supporter
how class cucky
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>>24283673
Like it or not, he improved my country a lot.
I even made an anoymous poll at my Uni asking people who they thought was better, Pinochet or Allende, and right now the vote is exactly at 50% Pinochet, 50% Allende. Pretty interesting to say the least.
Were it not for him we would be living in a Venezuela-tier country.
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>>24283689
>Like it or not, he improved my country a lot.
I'm not denying bad people can't have a positive effect on things
However I think the issue needs to be reframed because even many mainstream economists nowadays (except for the Chicago School of course because of their direct involvement as well as those right of them) put less blame on Allende than initially for the inflation crisis
>I even made an anoymous poll at my Uni asking people who they thought was better, Pinochet or Allende, and right now the vote is exactly at 50% Pinochet, 50% Allende.
Public opinion polls rarely are an accurate description of something especially an historical event. See for example how most people in Russia would prefer a return of the Soviet Union.
>Were it not for him we would be living in a Venezuela-tier country.
That's a pretty big assumption you've got there.
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>>24283740
Yeah, guess who fault it was that there was an inflation crisis on the first place... That was only one of many reasons people wanted Allende out of power. He was "democratically elected" with the 36% of the vote (next candidate got 35%, third candidate was unlikely to give votes to Allende), crime was rampant (multiple left wing terrorist groups killing, bombing, robbing), unconstitutional measures taken by Allende, etc

Of course, I'm just saying it's interesting.

It really is not a big assumption. The similitude between Chile in the early 70s and today's Venezuela is striking.
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First time on this board. Also my first time making one of these.
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>>24284989
eyy another Bo fan. Nice.
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>>24271228
Made this a while back, first time posting it though.
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>>24282575
wasn't really paying attention, probably right on the line but not libertarian, because I don't think ideals should strive to be realistic. They should strive to be unreachable. Also thanks.
>>24283535
I was calling myself beta.
I was not paying attention really to the graph, but Lincoln as a President really kinda abides by the ideals of the founding of the Republican party, but it has strayed from eliminating unnecessary governance, to cultivating wealth.
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I don't have any reasons to live or kill myself
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>>24286268
I didn't mean to post this one, pic related is the correct one.
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I only ever lurk here.
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>>24286434
>Conlang-making
>Bhutan
>Kuma Miko

What the hell, you're cool as fuck.
Link me some of your conlang, bruh.
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>>24286434
sweet & nice
>>24286284
sad
>>24285436
cool
>>24284989
What especially appeals about Savant for you?
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>>24287046
Not sure, honestly. I like almost every song by him that doesn't sound like a blender.
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>>24287046
Your chart is confusing
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This took me way too long and I don't know why I bother most of the time. Maybe it's because it's 4 am in the morning and I'm bored.
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>>24271394
Gib money pls y sere tu mejor amigo
No homo tho
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>>24283760
Do you really wanna get into it because I can
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>>24291905
I already addressed some points already, so...

regarding your image
1) Poverty was most likely higher before he took power (there is no data about it, but considering people were starving to death during the previous government...)
2) One recession was caused by the previous (socialist) government. The second recession happened all over latin america because of the debt crisis.
3) Average earnings grew
4) 45% of the chilean population wanted him to keep in power for 6 years more (23 years in total). The other 55% wanted to vote for another candidate.
5) The Pinochetist party is the biggest chilean political party right now.
He was a hero. The hero Chile needed but didn't deserve.
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NO
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>>24291952
You're not Avant-Math God AFAIK
The image is shit though admittedly but

>High unemployment
>Low wages amongst urban workers
>The percentage of people below the poverty line increased to 44% by the late 80s. Even before the recession it was 20%+

I mean there's a lot of shit like this you're delusional if you think there was a real "miracle" at least for everyone

Not to mention Chile has been stagnating since the 90s now even though effectively nothing has changed policy wise since Pinochet
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>>24292140
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about the image, I plan on making one like that but for Allende. You know, 66% decrease in real wages, 600% inflation, shortages, terrorism, almost a civil war, and his own suicide

>High unemployment
After the 80s latin american debt crisis
>Low wages amongst urban workers
Yes, and they still increased when compared to the previous government
>The percentage of people below the poverty line increased to 44% by the late 80s. Even before the recession it was 20%+
It never increased, the only information known about it is that poverty was at 44% in 1988.

The miracle was real, they just got ruined because of the worst crisis latin america suffered since the second world war.

>Chile has been stagnating since the 90s
What? No! Chile has kept growing since the 1990s while being the best country of the region at it! It only started going down after socialist Bachelet took power!
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>>24292162
Unless this is some meme
Pic related

>After the 80s latin american debt crisis
It was almost 15% in the mid 70s
>Yes, and they still increased when compared to the previous government
The highest they reached was some 80% of what they were paid previous lol
>It never increased, the only information known about it is that poverty was at 44% in 1988.
I'm doubtful of that
What I've read before said the proportion of the population below the poverty line increased from 20% to 44.4% from 1970 to 1987
>It only started going down after socialist Bachelet took power!
You're playing party politics, Chile was just as neoliberal under Bachelet as before
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>>24292221
The picture I forgot
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>>24292221
It was 8% of unemployment just before the crisis started. Today unemployment is at 7%. Not that much of a difference, and unemployment was still decreasing by 1981. Also, during 1974 (the year you probably got the 20% figure from) the governemt went to shit because of Allende combined with the oil crisis. The neoliberal reforms started in 1975 as well.

>The highest they reached was some 80% of what they were paid previous lol
[citation needed]
See pic related for the devastating effects Allende had on real wages, and notice how just after Pinochet took power wages went up. Hurray for socialism!

>I'm doubtful of that
Considering people were starving to death during 1970-1973, I'm pretty sure poverty was even higher. At least during Pinochet's government people had something to eat without having to make such big lines for food.

>What I've read before said the proportion of the population below the poverty line increased from 20% to 44.4% from 1970 to 1987
Yes, I read the same, but that information was not sourced. Was probably from libcom or something like that. There are no figures on poverty in Chile before 1988, so good luck with that.

>You're playing party politics, Chile was just as neoliberal under Bachelet as before
Not really. She increased taxes, made a lot of market reforms, regulated the economy, etc. Her first government was far more moderate, but with her second one things really went to shit, to the point she now has a 15% approval rate by the chilean population.

>>24292228
Turns out not all tripfags are bad
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>>24292228
Forgot the pic about real wages under Allende
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>>24292268
>Not that much of a difference, and unemployment was still decreasing by 1981.
And then it shot back up lol
Even before then it was 10%+ consistently
> Also, during 1974 (the year you probably got the 20% figure from)
Unemployment was 9.4% in 74
20% was in 82
>inb4 La Década Perdida
The neoliberal economic shock therapy used in post-USSR had the same effects
You can't try and say the crisis was exclusively foreign born, many would even blame short-term speculative capital creating a bubble bound to burst but of course that is probably gommunist propaganda ;^^)
>There are no figures on poverty in Chile before 1988, so good luck with that.
The specifics are something to look into but given the unemployment I'm not surprised

>Turns out not all tripfags are bad
Well it's exactly what you said too after he posted so someone copied someone here

>>24292281
Yeah but this basically confirms what I said
Wages never recovered fully to their pre 1973 levels lol
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>>24292374
>And then it shot back up lol
Yeah, when the latin american debt crisis got into Chile
>Even before then it was 10%+ consistently
It was decreasing though, until it reached 9%, and could have been decreasing even more had it not been for the crisis.

>Unemployment was 9.4% in 74
Oh, alright.
>20% was in 82
Yeah, when the crisis got into Chile

>The neoliberal economic shock therapy used in post-USSR had the same effects
Yes, so what?

>You can't try and say the crisis was exclusively foreign born, many would even blame short-term speculative capital creating a bubble bound to burst but of course that is probably gommunist propaganda ;^^)
It was foreign born. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_debt_crisis

>The specifics are something to look into but given the unemployment I'm not surprised
Considering unemployment was so low despite the 66% decrease in real wages, I don't think unemployment is a good way to determine poverty.

>>24292374
Yes, they reached a peak during 1971 (which was high because the wages were actually increasing from the previous government), but then Allende ruined it all as evidenced by the catastrophic plummeting of real wages. Also, wages still increased when Pinochet took power. That image doesn't confirm anything you have said.
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>>24292403
>and could have been decreasing even more had it not been for the crisis.
Thanks to a volatile market brought up by neo liberal shock therapy
>It was foreign born.
Lol that's really contentious
I can link Wikipedia too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1982#Academic_debate
Even let's assume that Chile was bright and sunny before the crisis, why did it take a suspension of the neoliberal policy to bring any halt to the crisis?
You're acting like Chile's own economy had no effect on making the situation worse
>Considering unemployment was so low
Unemployment was never low though, the lowest was 9% and that's still high
I imagine if you factor in the jobless rate or how many gave up on searching for a job it would be even higher
>Also, wages still increased when Pinochet took power.
I never said they didn't increase after what happened in 73 I said that they never recovered
>That image doesn't confirm anything you have said.
Lol it repeats exactly what I said that under Pinochet there was mass unemployment, a high increase in CPI/decrease in purchasing power, and that real wages effectively never recovered to their pre crisis levels

>Yes, so what?
That it's no surprise the practically same neo liberal shock therapy brought unemployment, economic inequality, etc to Chile as well
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>>24292005
You want homo then faget?
Just gib money pls
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>>24292465
>Thanks to a volatile market brought up by neo liberal shock therapy
You are mixing things up here. First of all, the shock therapy was from 1974-1975. Second, unemployment was decreasing since 1975 until 1982. You are mixing two different timelines now.

>Even let's assume that Chile was bright and sunny before the crisis
It was though. Conditions were improving for everybody.

>why did it take a suspension of the neoliberal policy to bring any halt to the crisis?
Because it was too risky to try the neoliberal model to solve the crisis? It's not like Chile didn't go back to the neoliberal model after the crisis was done (which resulted in a faster recovery than neighboring non-neoliberal countries Peru and Uruguay, for example, who were hit even harder by the crisis).

>You're acting like Chile's own economy had no effect on making the situation worse
Like I said before, considering both Peru and Uruguay (both countries that were not neoliberal) went into a deeper crisis and a slower recovery (or even a second crisis in the case of Peru, now under a social democrat government, with them going out of the crisis when neoliberal Fujimori took power), it's safe to say that the chilean model didn't made it worse.

>Lol it repeats exactly what I said that under Pinochet there was mass unemployment
Yes, unemployment reached a peak when the crisis started, who would have thought about it!?
>and that real wages effectively never recovered to their pre crisis levels
They were always above the level Allende left the country with.

>That it's no surprise the practically same neo liberal shock therapy brought unemployment, economic inequality, etc to Chile as well
Sure, but then it started to improve the situation, and would have continued to improve had it not been for the crisis. Unemployment was 9% compared to 6% of 1970, real wages were 97.3 compared to the 100 1970 (considering real wages were 33 when Pinochet took power, that's pretty impressive).
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>>24292506
>First of all, the shock therapy was from 1974-1975.
Neo liberal policies didn't end until after the crisis, even then policies have lasting effects
>Conditions were improving for everybody.
Except for the working class, the unemployed, etc
>which resulted in a faster recovery
Chile's recovery was based on their dropping of neoliberal, most other countries used neoliberal policies prescribed by the IMF and others to fight the crisis.
>Yes, unemployment reached a peak when the crisis started, who would have thought about it!?
Forget about the peak it was high throughout the mid 70s and all through the 80s
>They were always above the level Allende left the country with.
Literally your own graph says otherwise as well as my table
the closest they got to 1970 was in 81 and 82 before the crash at 97/96 and then we all know what happened after that
>and would have continued to improve had it not been for the crisis
Considering many would say the neoliberal policies exasperated and created the situation for the crisis that's contentious
>. Unemployment was 9% compared to 6% of 1970
For ONE year lol
then it was 10%+ continuously
Unemployment under Allende was from his whole tenure under 10%
You even admit this, it was higher during Pinochet's lowest at 9% than it was at Allende's highest at 6% in 1970 lol
>real wages were 97.3
Which was the highest they ever got
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>>24292575
The neoliberal policies never ended, we still have them here, they just took a halt during the crisis.

The unemployment was decreasing, real wages were increasing for the working class. So, no and no.

Chile was still neoliberal after the crisis

Yes, the shock therapy increased unemployment, but then went back down since 1975 until 1981

>They were always above the level Allende LEFT the country with.
>Literally your own graph says otherwise as well as my table
You lack reading comprehension or can't interpret graphs? Allende left the country with real wages around the 33% of the level it was during 1970. Then Pinochet increased that level and never went down that 33%

>the closest they got to 1970 was in 81 and 82 before the crash at 97/96 and then we all know what happened
Yes, the crisis, which was not fault of Chile but the debt crisis which hit all of latin america. They were already almost recovered from not only their own shock from 1974/1975, but from the decrease of quality from Allende! Example, wages at 33 when Pinochet took power, 97 during 1981. It got THREE times higher! Hurray for neoliberalism!

>Considering many would say the neoliberal policies exasperated and created the situation for the crisis that's contentious
Again, because you didn't read my whole post, non-neoliberal countries went through the same crisis and Chile even managed to overcome it better. It was NOT Chile's fault!

>For ONE year lol
Yes, and it had been decreasing since 1975, would have continued decreasing were it not for the crisis
>then it was 10%+ continuously
But still decreasing. It went back to 9% at the end of Pinochet's government (pic related)

>Unemployment under Allende was from his whole tenure under 10%
True, but that's not necessarily a good thing, especially if you get paid three times less when compared to the country before he took power

>Which was the highest they ever got
You say it like increasing real wages three-fold is somehow a bad thing
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Hi
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I just made this senpai wowwie
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>>24292506
Come into graph thread and see this wall of text, wtf
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>>24271228
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>>24292671
>>24293082
>>24293733
>>24295277

Stop gargling cum and rate other people's charts, you retarded faggots.
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plz don't hate on me ;.;
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>>24297190
>grimes
nice
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>>24274562
If you want the whole love thing to work out then you might want to not pretend to be a female

Smdh familia
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>>24297190
>liz lisa
very cute style
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>>24271228
r8 me
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>>24297190
stars on american flag almost look arabic and this made me laugh
>>24293733
Dude that's my favorite NIN EP, very awesome alt tracks on there
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