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/erpg/ - "Lewd... Lewd never changes" edition.
Coming back from Fallout 4? Well, no better time for a Wasteland Survival Post Lewdpocalypse themed general. Shack up with someone sexy this nuclear winter. Or you might just need to sell you body for bottle caps.

>New here?
>What the fuck is ERP?
Erotic Role Play. This isn't just cybering as yourself or being flirty on kik, you can get that elsewhere on /soc/. This thread is all about roleplaying distinct characters. Your "ASL"s can be an elf princess and the rugged but gentle half-orc knight that saves her, or the dragon that keeps her. Or maybe you're sci-fi greasemonkey, or the pilot of the starfighter she's repairing. Anything is valid.

>How do I get started?

Before anything else, come up with the character you want to fuck as. Try not to make a boring character, make someone you think people would want to interact with, it doesn't have to just be sexually! Once you've come up with your character, register an account on https://www.f-list.net and create a profile for them. If you're having trouble with concept, feel free to talk here with us in the thread or join our channel with a blank profile. We're happy to help you figure things out!

>So, I made my Character, what now?

After you've created your character and think you're ready to actually ERP, open F-chat 1.0 or 2.0 from the chat tab on the top left of the Homepage. Look through the Public Channels and find the ones which interest you or apply to your character. If someone's ad interests you, look at their profile and private message them if they still interest you, or wait for someone to do the same to you. You can also post your character here, there's a chance one of us will be interested.

>Where do you guys hang out?

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JOIN 4CHAN /ERPG/ CHANNEL
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Just get on https://www.f-list.net/chat/ and type
/join ADH-59dc867b2b8dc5bf159d
That will take you right to the channel.

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Just gonna repost:

>>22900854
I don't understand the transformation fetish that's all... "I do something completely normal, no pissing off gypsies or spitting on the grave of indians, and I get transformed into some sort of mundane costume that I put on right there in public and no one starts freaking out about it". Maybe it's my need for, if not realism, verisimilitude, and most people would not treat that with no comment.

>>22900867
>>22901317
What is this game? It looks like a post apocalyptic world where people have actually rebuilt and been able to craft fantasy style civilizations, which is exactly the kind of game I wish existed. What's the system like?
Also, how lewd is it? Everyone's naked... Are the dudes hanging dick out?

>>22901525
>Tabletop gaming is already in a really sad state compared to the renaissance of the late '90s/early '00s
While it's true that tabletop gaming--and gaming as a whole, what with things like YOU KNOW WHAT creating schisms--has a problem with elitism and the need to hate or harass anyone who's opinion is different, that's not actually true. If anything more people are playing roleplaying games now than ever before, it's just that they're not playing the same 20 roleplaying games. Hobby gaming is actually having some of it's best years ever.

ICv2 is quickly becoming my go-to resource for proving these things, but the Hobby Games industry as a whole has climbed to 880 million.
http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/32102/hobby-games-market-climbs-880-million
While it's true that's primarily because of card games and miniature games (both of which are expensive and long term investments), Roleplaying games still have $25 Million worth of fans. RPGs have also apparently had 67% growth in the last year.
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>>22902584
Guess I was wrong about people being finished with Fallout 4 :V
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https://www.f-list.net/c/blanche%20the%20asuka

Self-proclaimed snuggle goddess is go!
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>>22902370
Huh. Guess I was working off old data, because last time I heard about it, tabletop game sales were so far in the hole that physical game shops were closing down all over the place. I know mine did, but that was admittedly years ago. Good to see things are recovering. I wonder what inspired the change -- it certainly wasn't D&D/PF this time around.
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>>22902963
Physical game shops ARE closing down all over the place. That has less to do with people no longer being interested in roleplaying games and everything to do with Amazon. And, ironically, DrivethruRPG, which definitely saved Onyx Path (the people licensed to do White Wolf stuff) and kept it afloat.
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>>22902359
Yikes, I never looked at the OP picture. That hair is fucking hideous.

>>22903033
Makes sense. I do miss the physicality of it, but convenience is hard to argue with.

Still waiting for someone to explain WTF this Degenesis thing is. The website's not loading for me, and all the RPG.net reviews read like zero-substance sales copy.
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>>22903184
>That hair is fucking hideous.
>Not liking technicolour dreadlocks
Do you even cyberpunk?
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>>22903281
>Fallout
>cyberpunk
Puhlease.

And if it was trying to be cyberpunk, it needs to play heavier on it -- more neon, more cables, etc. Otherwise it's just shitty mid-'90s raver kid nonsense. Embrace it or don't, don't half-ass it.
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>>22902359
>Before anything else, come up with the character you want to fuck as
You make it sound so simple.
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>>22903383
Do you have a particular fetish or scenario you especially love and would want to enact? Maybe basing it around that could help.
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>Find someone who's eager sounding and willing to do my kinks/likes the same kinks I do
>Excitement.jpg
>Admittedly have a very rough opener on my end that I post, but it smooths out within the next few posts
>Three posts in, person says 'sorry, not actually in the mood' and hops out

It's very hard to find someone who likes everything I do and actually stays online long enough for it.
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>>22902370
>What is this game?

>>22900867
>Degenesis PDF got released today
>Degenesis
>Degenesis

Anyway.

Rulebooks. There are two: Primal Punk, which is the setting, and Katharsys, which is the ruleset & crunch. The revised edition of the ruleset is a skill+attribute dice pool system; the core mechanic is pretty straightforward. Nothing too surprising here for anybody who's familiar with, say, Shadowrun. https://mega.nz/#F!4llFxaSJ!-s8AP4HjornW2PDjuMfl1w

Basic setting is that Earth got slammed by a bunch of asteroids in the 2070s (popular time for apocalyspes, it seems), and that 500 years on, Europe and Africa are mired in a hell of factionalism, climate change, and genetic/environmental corruption caused by some bacteria/gene sequence/whatever that hitched a ride on the asteroids. Humanity is starting to get out of the "pure survival" state and are moving towards the construction of new societies, but no two ideological groups - broadly defined as "cults" - agree fully on how it ought to be done.

In terms of presentation, it comes across a bit like VtM - a lot of politics, a lot of mysteries, not a lot of answers.

A lot of people are naked 'cause barbarism.
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>>22903470
And since I'm pretty sure it was... Rory? that asked about dudes running around with their dicks out...

This is a Dushani. They are terrifying mutants that nest in the Balkans. They sing the songs that end the world. So I guess you could say they rock out with their cocks out.
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Cute redheads (auburn-heads?) with wrenches are always relevant.
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"Mboro, is the tea ready?"
'Yes, sah.'
"Very good, boy. It will just be a moment..."
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>>22903335
Turns out "Cybergoth" is the name of the style, and I don't have the image for that hair anymore.

>>22903470
>>Degenesis PDF got released today
>>Degenesis
>>Degenesis
Yes, bitch, we know what the game is called, now fucking tell us about it.

Anyway, I'll check it out. I love post-post-apocalypse. Though you'd think that since we went to pre-age of exploration all the way to potentially near-singularity in less than 500 years that these people would be a lot less tribal. Which is the same problem that Fallout has, too. 200 years after the bombs drop and we'd probably have our shit together. We certainly wouldn't be living in ruins that function as perfectly serviceable raw materials.

Does the game have magic?
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>>22902694
>>22903470
To answer the questions of why people were getting mad about the game, I'll try to explain.

There are two major points of conflict between Europe and Africa, Africa has all the gasoline production in the world, and Europeans have mostly flintlock weapons. I suggested that two possible mythic story arcs would be European characters finding a new source of fuel to break the African stranglehold, or finding one of those old Russian weapons caches that are basically salt mines packed full of obsolete rifles and ammo.

Cue Europeans (I think) bitching at me for not understanding the setting because what I suggested would alter the status quo and that's bad it seems, as well as calling me a weapons crazed American who can only achieve erection if I've just murdered someone with at least three firearms, I only say 'American' because I never gave my nationality but they called me it as if it was an insult anyway. I mean heaven forbid a bolt action rifle be considered valuable in a world where most are lucky to have knives.

Basically just the normal elitist 'I was here first' fans being toxic to anyone they perceive as having a difference of opinion and thinking they're the holy guardians of canon and lore. Just seemed a bit more vehement and pervasive this time.

Actually on topic, reposting advertisement from earlier thread, a pair of free spirited incestuous Sith twins, Star Wars setting, most any time period can work, lots of fun, stop on by, so on and so forth.

https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20starborn%20twins
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These are Pregnoktics. Another mutant caused by Death Bacteria From Space, this time based out of Spain. They have powers of foresight and the most capable among them even have some mastery over spacetime itself, but striking a bargain with them is always a Faustian pact. They have a fondness for seashells.

>>22903700
It has weird spiritualism and alien psychic powers, but there are no wizards. The Chroniclers and the Anubians probably come closest there - the Chroniclers are basically Tech-Priests in the 40k sense, and the Anubians are... well, yeah, okay, their spooky spiritual abilities are probably the closest thing to magic out there. Severing the chakra threads of mutant abominations; restoring the near-dead to life in dogskin rebirth rituals; metabolizing sure-kill venoms in their own bodies; so on, so forth. A lot of stuff is ambiguous, so it's hard to say how much of that is Freaky Psychic Power and how much is Nanomachines, Son.

>>22903709
Oh, I remember that post.
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>>22903738
Behold. More prophet-tits.
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>>22903738
You were there? Figured, Degenesis isn't very widespread so it's likely you'd have been there. Didn't think pitching a few potential ideas was worth getting a tongue lashing but whatever, I'd rather not derail this thread early on by arguing over an old fight. Anyhow, just going to be hanging out trying to get someone to play with my Sith, if that fails it's back to ToR.
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>>22903700
Also, some groups have their shit together better than others. Many clans have been reduced to hunter-nomadism by the dramatic southward expansion of the Arctic cold front combined with "oh God the Earth itself has become corrupt and evil", so Europe tends to be backward and barbarous. Survival is very much a higher priority than making fancy shit again. North Africa has become a lush subtropical zone, full of riches and plenty. Tribal motifs are still common, but it is a matter of conscious cultural legacy rather than "this is the best we can do." The Lions to Europe's Crows, as the game likes to put it.

This is a Neolibyan. They are the capitalist masters of the world; lords of the riches of the Mediterranean. Their pastimes include getting filthy rich off of licensed trade charters, pillaging Europe's corpse, big game hunting, and spending giant amounts of wealth on their home villages in displays of conspicuous consumption.
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>>22903833
I think it's an interesting dichotomy, Europe is a horrible place to live but slowly getting better and winning against the Primer, whole Africa is a wealthy paradise that's going to be facing a near-unstoppable apocalypse because they're ignoring the imminent thread in favor of getting rich.
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>>22903757
And a startlingly clean and just generally delectable looking pussy, for a society that (based on the outfits) appears to place fairly little value on cleanliness.

>>22903833
This aesthetic is exactly why I loved Exalted.
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>>22903855
They're mutants so they're probably naturally hairless or something.
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>>22903867
Time to become a different kind of mutant-hunter!
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How do I do sci-fi characters?
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>>22903993
Make a character, then dress it up in sci-fi trappings. Keep it open.
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>>22904001
Don't make it sound easy. Add artificial difficulty for me please.
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>>22904012
The hard part is making a character. Sci-fi is "I dunno, and there's some lasers and skintight suits and bangin' sexy aliens n' shit."
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>>22904024
Making characters for modern and fantasy is relatively painless for me, but the moment you add space ships? I don't know what to do anymore, nothing feels like it came out right ;~;
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>>22904048
It's just a change of scenery; there's really not much need for a core concept shift. Sure, you could make your entire character a xenobiologist or something, but under the majority of use cases, you really only need to swap the window dressing.
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>>22904067
I guess, maybe I'm just being overly considerate because it's out of my comfort zone.
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>>22904094
Comfort zones do not apply here.
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I made a character but I think it's pretty underdeveloped. I haven't RPed ever before so I don't really know what I'm doing. Now I just watch the public LFRP channel and click on some of those profiles. I really enjoy looking at good profiles but just by the fact they did such a good job I'm too intimidated to message them. It's like having a crush on the cute cheerleader in high school but feeling she's out of your league.
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>>22904509
Link profile, but more importantly post your own ads. If someone messages you, then they're obviously content with what you have to offer. Of course, they could be shitters, but that'll be rather obvious when they say "Hi, how's it going :3 *hugs you*"
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>>22904516
I wouldn't know a shitter from a non-shitter and am probably a shitter myself. But you're right, I imagine I'll need to post an ad for anyone to know I exist.

https://www.f-list.net/c/belleera/

There's my profile, I hope you'll forgive (but also tell me about) anything that makes you frown. I think there are still a lot of gaps like no pictures and maybe not enough writing or ideas.
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>>22904509
Some people with fancier profiles are snobbish bastards, but you can usually tell that just by reading said profiles (and their kinks). Otherwise, a lot of people are surprisingly relaxed and happy to talk to people, even if it doesn't lead into bangin'.
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>>22904509
Post your profile.
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>>22904542
Set a gender, get some images, and add a couple more kinks and you should be good. Not terrible for a first round go at it. If you want an icon, post whatever image you want in thread and I'll do it for you.
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>>22904542
A bit more information in general would be a good idea. More kinks and an image are definitely good places to start. Right now it just looks so sparse I kind of glaze over looking at it.
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>>22904542
Okay, first, you should set a sex in the profile, not just an orientation. That's an important consideration. Yes, you really ought to find art, too. Cleric, you say? Lots of options available there. And more customs are always a good thing: try to evoke what it is you like about something, and why you find it exciting.

You're off to an alright start, though.
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>>22904568
>>22904590
>>22904599
Thanks a lot for being so friendly and helpful, I'll try and sort it out for you.
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>>22903184
>>22903281
>>22903335
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Hi.
Here's some words. Enjoy them or something.
http://pastebin.com/FVeuz7VB
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>>22904684
You're gonna be out-wordsing me at this rate, Aislinne.
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>>22904542
Oh, I just noticed. The first line of your description is nothing but sentence fragments. I'd try to put them into something more coherent if you're gonna have them in a paragraph. i.e.

>Meek but proud, during the day Belleera the cleric spends her time in silent study, religious service and charity work. Seeking to avoid unwanted attention, she covers her short and slim body in a robe so modest and plain that it often has the opposite effect in today's modern world. During the day, her constant activity is very successful at keeping the many temptations of the world at bay. But come dusk, it becomes so much easier to walk down the path of sin. Belleera is a devout follower of her faith, however, and is not likely to surrender to temptation without a certain amount of manipulation...
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>>22904714
Could I use this, or is that poor form? You're quite right, that's a lot better than the bulletpoints I offered.
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>>22904755
yeah, go ahead, I don't mind.
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>>22902359
Does anybody have the rest of the set? I've been searching for it for a bit.
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>>22904760
Thanks a lot for your help.
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https://www.f-list.net/c/riza%20the%20third/

Critique my grumpy space bounty hunter please.
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>>22901953
>"I do something completely normal, no pissing off gypsies or spitting on the grave of indians, and I get transformed into some sort of mundane costume that I put on right there in public and no one starts freaking out about it"
Most of the time it's "dickass wizard fucking with random people for shits an gigles".

Like the whole Naga's Den site - it's just this witch, living somewhere, and TFing literally everybody who stumbles into her territory. Just because she fucking can.

> Everyone's naked... Are the dudes hanging dick out?
Lol of course not, nerds want to see naked GURLS, not GUYS.
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>>22905867
>Lol of course not
Except they are. >>22903548
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>>22903335
>>Fallout
>>cyberpunk
>Puhlease.
It's like what, dieselpunk? Atompunk? With the postapoc rust on top.

>>22904509
>Now I just watch the public LFRP channel and click on some of those profiles.
That's a shithole. Try some other channels. They're mostly shitholes too, but less bad.


>>22904542
Git an avatar cropped out of your pictures, otherwise its pretty workable.

>>22904684
Hah I'm currently lurkwatching that not-Albedo getting it on in the latex channel too.

Latexn train just doesn't stop huh.

>>22905901
Oh golly, one guy to how many pairs of tits in just this thread already?
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>>22906230
What crawled up your ass and died?
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>>22906661
>>22906661
Well mostly you taking a throwaway chuckle seriously enough to refute it
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The line break placement makes the formatting wonky.
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>>22906709
>throwaway chuckle
>three-word response
>"taking seriously"
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>>22906803
What crawled up your ass and died?
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>>22906862
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>Someone goes mysteriously silent an hour into our ERP

This is going to be the usual embarrassing situation where they fapped and came but pretend something happened IRL, isn't it?
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>>22906884
>never roleplayed before
>finally make a profile
>put an ad in LFRP
>someone bites
>go over terms quickly, glad I haven't fucked anything up yet
>start ERP
>4 hours later we're still doing the same ERP

This is the first and last time I'm doing this, there's no way I can justify such a time sink.
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>>22906230
One dick out to one exposed slit; that's one for one so far. If you want bare male chests, there's plenty of that, too. For example, a Polish rail-nomad.
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>>22906917
Four hours is pretty normal for something that isn't a super-quick wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am affair.
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>>22906928
And here's a tribal from a bunker-dwelling group that took to daubing itself with phosphor as a warning sign to others. Their warrior caste has a worrying love of Willy Pete.
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>>22906917
>>22906931
Yeah, 4 hours is what I'd call average, maybe even a bit shorter than usual. If you don't have that kind of time to waste, definitely don't try to force it, it's not worth stressing over.
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>>22906998
Pretty much. Four to six hours is what I try to earmark for any given scene, and, given my personal pacing & build-up, there's usually going to be at least one follow-up session on another day. If you're not the type of person who can focus on doing one thing for that amount of time due to inclination or obligation, either focus on contextless quickies or accept that this isn't gonna work out for you. No harm, no foul.

>>22906970
A Jehammadean, presumably of some merit judging by the body tattoos. Jehammadeans are future-Muslims, and despite the enormous degree of stratification by sex and birth in their societies, they're probably one of the least dysfunctional groups in the setting.
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>>22907019
My partner went offline out of the blue half an hour ago. Feels bad. I was having fun but I don't think this is for me. As you say, it's no trouble, I'm glad I gave it a go and got to see something different first hand. Almost like an absurd modern day bucketlist item.

Anyway you guys have a fun little excursion here but I'll leave the work to the pros. Thanks for all the help and encouragement I got in this thread anons.
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>>22907072
People poofing is, sadly, really fucking common in this line of work. If you were in the middle of something smutty, take it as a mark of perverse flattery that your partner probably got off and opted to roll away in shame rather than attempt to wind down the scene responsibly.

Hopefully you had fun during this entire misadventure!

>>22907019
Here's a fairly high-ranking member of the Scourgers, an African warrior-cult. Most of their equipment is pillaged from old UN warehouse stocks, and they serve as the guardians of the old tribal ways, as opposed to the Neolibyans' relentless search for progress and grandeur. They frequently go on slaving raids in Europe: shoe's on the other foot now, eh?
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>>22906728
Damn, last time I did that it didn't muck up when I showed it to people. Looks like I need to make them even shorter.
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>>22907495
It works fine on non-mobile.

>>22907208
Here's a salt-flat nomad.
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>>22907595
Perfectionism is my second to last name.
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https://www.f-list.net/c/akiza_izinski/

>Want to try incorperating ERP with yugioh dueling
>Put an ad out and stuff asking to do so with Duel Network
>People keep messaging me but then not know what the fuck duel network is

Trying to be innovative is suffering
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>>22907208
man. why do I want to give that guy a blowie?
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>>22908349
>Akiza Izinski, known as Aki Izayoi in the Japanese version
...That is the first time I've ever seen translated anime give a character an even more difficult name for Americans to stumble over.
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>>22908368
I admit I have a bit of a fascination with incredibly complex, over the top and concealing outfits that still have very easy access to private parts.

It's kinda an odd fascination, incredibly overdressed everywhere but the one part most everyone keeps hidden.
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>>22908443
You should look up Satoshi Urushihara.
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>>22908443
The AK, pouches and mil-spec gear are something I love

(incase it isn't obvious who I am)
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>>22908463
Ragnarok City was really cool.
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>>22908496
It was fun but it was more like a slice of life thing, that one fight aside. Chirality had more plot and PLOT.
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Also lood meidos.
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Hi.
I'm here with more logs. They're about as, uh, involved as the last one.
http://pastebin.com/kqgYJZb5
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>>22908520
Front/Lady Innocent! Probably the best-animated reasonably explicit yuri scenes ever.

Chirality was grand. Although Plastic Little's unresolved Tita/Elysse relationship is the one that sticks with me, for whatever reason.
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>>22908538
I know, they didn't get to do enough with that.

Have more impractical outfits.
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>>22908531
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>>22908463
His old works are great but honestly his newer art just keeps getting worse and worse, Its really sad.
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>>22908730
It's also all single fanart images. I miss Urushihara stories.
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>>22908604
ok
http://pastebin.com/fbxSvf59
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>>22908531
>One of the replies is over 2000 words
Where the fuck do I find these people, man? Holy shit. It's literally just formless fucking. *Thrusts harder* *Moans louder* taken to its extreme.
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>>22908730
At least he's not as far gone as Masamune Shirow.
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>>22908531
>2k+ words
It's too late to go back, your next RP is going to be a short novella at this rate.
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Actually hypnotized a girl today (or at least she lead me to believe that), after telling myself I would stay out of that fetish.

I was gentle with her though I promise. Still a somewhat spooky experience.
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>>22909898
I can never tell whether you're talking about real people or characters. I feel like your misadventures often trend a bit too close to the former for this thread, particularly when /soc/ is full of Kik and Skype and whatever else threads.

Maybe that's just me though.
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>>22909912
>I can never tell whether you're talking about real people or characters
I'm not sure where else to go...

Kik thread is a "phone directory" only. Here people actually discuss stuff.
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>>22909912
He's almost like a Chuuni. "I hypnotized a girl today". "I know German". "I wear an eyepatch because there's a demon trapped inside me."
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>>22909996
That girl doesn't have a penis. What's going on?
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>>22909996
Hey I'm more socially well adjusted than one of my childhood friends, who was completely convinced he was from Pluto for a good year or two. Last I checked he was pretty much a hiki and one some kind of psych meds. He might have also attempted suicide at some point I'm not sure.
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>>22910014
Took another trip to /gif/
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God, fuck this channel. People are telling me to go to /nw/, does that place have less bitching?
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>>22910113
>>22909996
goddamnit thats incredibly hot! pls post more webbums
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>>22910269
To what?
>>22910303
Sure
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>>22908520
...Your spelling of "lewd" betrays you, you know. I'm on to you.
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>>22910574
Like your sentence-starting ellipses aren't a dead giveaway.
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>>22910658
Yeah, but I imagine most thread regulars know that I'm Red. I'm always being told that my writing style is distinctive, or something.
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>>22910666
>666
Everyone can smell the brimstone, you devil you.
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>>22910692
It can't be helped.

Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure this image is the fetish of at least a few people around here.
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>>22910709
Keep in mind this isn't /tg/. Might want to delete that if you still can
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>>22910739
I'll take my chances, but thanks for the consideration, all the same.
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>>22910709
No, it can be helped.

Unlike your fascination with fluffy hats.
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>>22910779
>fascination with fluffy hats
Speaking of.
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>>22910791
Don't call me a bwaaaka, baka.
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>>22910800
Bwaaaaaka.
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>>22910812
How dare you.
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>>22910828
You can't stop progress. And by progress, I mean hats.
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>>22910039
"Hey, at least I'm better off than a mentally ill person off their medications." Such high standards.
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>>22910847
Bah. Have some space lesbians.
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>>22910892
But where are their *hats*?
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>>22910903
Look, it's Kangoku Senkan, I could find a pic of them wearing some disturbing mind control gear if you like but somehow I don't think it's what either of us wants here.

Instead, more impractical clothing!
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>>22910938
My hat is a mutant octopus, and my outfit consists of tattoos and a tattered cloak. Two birds, one stone.
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>>22910965
Dungeon Meshi lewd? They've gone too far.
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>>22910980
It's a thing.
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>>22910980
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>>22910984
Over the line!
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>>22910993
I don't really need to repost the stuff from the channel, do I?
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>>22910999
YADA YADA
ZETTAI YADA
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>>22909260
It takes special talent to pump six hundred words that can be summed as *kisses and grinds against*
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>>22910269
>does that place have less bitching?
Haha nooo.
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>>22910892
Those two aren't actually lesbians though. Before they got kidnapped, brainwashed and turned into cock hungry cumdumpsters one of them (Pretty sure it was the short haired one) had just recently got married. I mean you did pay attention to the plot of Kangoku Senkan right?
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You may like this pic.

More pics at (look for "Charakter-Galerie"):
http://www.fraktal-endzeit.com
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>Finish doing 90% of the stuff in FO4
>Immediately jump back to New Vegas
The procrastination train never ends.
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>>22912396
>The procrastination train never ends.
Ayuyup.
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I unironically enjoy /b/'s erp threads. Their casual, shitpost-y atmosphere is strangely relaxing.
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>>22912992
I unironically enjoy /b/, the people that have been there for a while know what's up, and while they can be idiots they're my sort of idiots. That said, some threads there are still cancer.
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[00:50] Sekko: Open to any and ALL Roleplay suggestions as long as it falls into the limits of my lists! (very few limits). Sekko is a 4'8" folfsky cunt-boy with blue and black fur (Ask for visual reference if interested)!
[00:50] Aislinne: Folf...sky?
[00:51] Aislinne: I'm not hip with the furry lingo.
[00:51] FreeFull: Fox wolf husky
[00:51] Aislinne: Oh. Uh. Aight.

Oh lol f-list.
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>>22914078
>no one wants to be a poodle
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>>22914089
I see a couple poodles. They're all gay femboys and surprisingly unpopular.
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>>22914078
>folfsky cunt-boy with blue and black fur
I sexually identify as DeviantArt.

Not any specific part of it. The whole site.
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>Want to do a scene involving magical girls
>all the magical girls on F-list are gay or dick girls
>end up making a magical girl profile
>no one want to play with it
>feel sad and up just watching magical girl anime instead
>repeat ad infinitum.
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>>22914520
Embrace the gay singularity.
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>>22914525
I don't wanna
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>>22914525
>Be male character that isn't super femmy, nor is he super hyper dicked stud, not a furry
>No one ever interested off the bat when I approach them even with kinks lining up
>All the monsters/bestial/interesting dudes are all straight

kill me
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>>22914520
L I N K C H A R A C H T E R
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>>22914578
Plenty of monsters are pansexual.

>>22914520
What character do you want to do magical girl things on? I mean, who do you want to fuck magical girls?
I feel like that's not coming out understandably: Which of your male characters do you want to have sex with a magical girl?
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>>22914627
I deleted my magical girl a few days ago, I'm only bitching about it now because I just finished watching the last of the Magical Girl anime I had stored on my laptop.
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Anyone interested in a game? (You have to actually be moderately known in the thread and also actually get in the Goddamned channel to be eligible)

The lewdness will be HBO level, but most actual sex is a thing you can do on your own time. No one wants to sit around while you ERP me or another player. But titties and seduction and whatnot are fine.

I still can't decide what game to run, but you can help choose.
http://strawpoll.me/6199335

I think the one I'm most interested in might be Werewolf, because I like pack creation, but other than that I'm whatever. Don't worry if you don't own the books, neither do I, but it's never stopped me.
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>>22915402
>werewolf lewds
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooope.
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>>22915566
You got a problem with that?

It's worth noting that there's no longer the rather silly taboo on Werewolf/Werewolf mating. It's no longer a sin against Harmony and it doesn't make a Metis or a murderous ghost baby. It just makes a Wolfblooded.
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>>22915402
>have to choose vampire or werewolf
>you will never be a slutty kindred getting the knot
why even unlive
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>werewolf lewds
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>>22915648
That taboo was there specifically to keep out the kind of fan that demanded shit like Changing Breeds, so fuck that change really.
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This fucking thread. Still here huh? Guess the elitist have a nice corner carved out for themselves
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>>22915402
If only I knew how to actually /tg/, I'd join just to watch the group fall apart :^)
>>22915965
Elitism always emerges out of the woodwork, but those of this thread aside from Rory are far from the worst on F-list as fast as having standards goes.
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>>22915965
Elitist how, friend?
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>>22915671
No it wasn't. If anything "you can't have sex or it's super incest and everyone will hate you" makes the game a LOT creepier than just allowing werewolves to fuck. Especially since the game already spent so much time talking about how you need to fuck. It is your DUTY TO GAIA to fuck. But if you fuck the other player characters it's super taboo incest and your babies will be ALWAYS CRINOS so you better not.

Or in Forsaken 1e the whole unfortunate implications that if you get raped your spirit baby will want to murder you for your crime against wolfmanity.

It's more furry to specifically fixate on werewolf-werewolf sex in a game that already fixated on how you need to make babies for Gaia than it would be to allow it or just never mention it. And it was a doubly pointless holdover for Forsaken to have the same rule.

Also, I'm playing it safe with these images, but WE are the kind of people who would want werewolf fuckin'

But seriously, I've never even understood that logic; it's not "you can't have sex in Crinos form", it's "two werewolves can't have sex even in human form". If anything Apocalypse was explicitly more furry by saying "go give Kinfolk the knot"

>>22916037
I'm not even elitist, I eplicitly want other people to be good; elitism is wanting no one new. I want new people to get better and have fun.

Also, join the game and I'll teach you to /tg/.
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>>22916585
Maybe, what days would you probs be running this?
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>>22916647
Whenever people decide works for them.
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>>22914520
I have a profile that's basically purpose-built for Magical Girl-related stuff. A shame.
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So, did Lili get her lewds on or not?

>>22916585
>elitism is wanting no one new
Uh, no, elitism is wanting only the high quality people. Git gud or git out.

We don't spell it explicitly like that, but we do give a pretty close impression by dumping instruction on how to be gud and then not playing with them anyway.
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>>22916956
We are kinda elitist in that we have (relatively) high standards for prose and profile design. We're not very elitist in that most of the people around here do not expect long-term multi-paragraph megaplots. Sure, I've done plenty of the latter, but I never *expect* it of anybody; things just sorta happen that way.

Basically, we prioritize literacy and characterization. If you hit those notes, we're probably kosher.
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>>22916956
>not playing with them anyways
Most of us are already committed to a decent number of partners or just straight up don't play with anyone, new or not.
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>>22917102
Yes but the newbies don't know that.
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>>22917112
Do you see people advertising their profiles here anymore? We're obviously not looking for play, but we're happy to give advice on how to make yourself more marketable.

Most of the advice given here is good advice for finding more play, that's coming from a previous native. I think some of it is overstated, detailed customs are by no means necessary for finding play, hell if we're being honest lewd images and catering to the more popular fetishes is almost a guarantee to find an average random person to typefuck with, but it's by no means bad advice.
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>>22916956
An elitist doesn't give advice, they say "I'm not going to spoonfeed you". Compare us to /a/, for instance. That's elitism. No one is allowed in the hobby unless they manage to EARN it.

Here it's "welcome to the hobby, here's your intro package so that you can have the most fun".
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>>22917214
>implying /a/ hasn't turned into spoonfeeding central
Elitism just means you believe that there's a section of your community which is better than the rest. Whether or not you can allow new people in is a matter of preference or not, /a/ for example tells you to lurk more fit its culture in order to join the group, which is a sentiment I can actually stand by. Recommendation threads, outside of really specific ones, fucking clog the board and detract from discussion so the culture developed to be vehemently against it. /a/ is an elitist community, but it's that way for a reason.
>no one is allowed in the hobby unless they manage to EARN it
Is that so wrong? We and 2^3chan keep out the bottom rung of players. If you wanna play with the big boys you gotta pony up, and if you can't there's plenty of alternatives out there.
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I'm not talking about recommendation threads, I'm talking about /a/'s everything (and recommendation threads would be better than most of what's on /a/; /tg/ has them plenty). Using codecs, finding the actual anime, things like that. /a/ is an elitist board because their attitude is that they don't want new people in the hobby, and actively discourage people from joining their community.

Giving advice on how to have a better experience isn't elitist, and it baffles me why people think it is. We don't want to keep out the bottom rung, we want the bottom rung to get better.
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God damn I wanna ERP but I'm having a bitch of a time coming up with a new character. Maybe I'm getting burned out.
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>>22917489
What's wrong with your old characters?
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>>22917445
And when they can't or don't want to, what do we do, eh?
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>>22917505
Ignore them, but that's not elitism any more than you not talking to a coworker you don't like is.

These days "elitism" seems to be "they don't like me". That's not what it means.
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>>22916956
>So, did Lili get her lewds on or not?
I got ambushed by responsibilities lately, so I've been busy being a responsible human being for the past several days, along with other distractions (like actual tabletop games). I'll probably try to get on early enough to get into something tomorrow or the next day, if I'm not too dead after running around all day.
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>>22917560
Ahh damn.
Well, good luck next time!
Seriously, I hope you manage to get into the swing of things.
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>>22917445
>/a/'s attitude is that they don't want new people in the hobby
Wrong, most people on /a/ are fine with others being into anime, just not posting on /a/. Telling someone to go to MAL or somewhere is an insult, but it's also advice.
>actively discourage people from joining their community
True, but while /a/ discourages newcomers it has no power of its own to outright reject members it doesn't approve of. If you wanna talk about almost any anime on /a/, you can now and days. A few years ago posting about any of the "Big 3" would get your thread deleted, now they have generals every week and beyond that the mods are moderating even less than they ever have. Whether or not you like that discussion is up to you, it's personal preference at that point. I'm not making the statement that /a/ is not elitist, that would be facetious, but I'm making the assertion that we are as well.
>why people think it is
It is, because it's not advice on how to have a better experience, it's advice on how to get "better" at RP, and by this threads standards. The fact that it's somewhat common practice to call other users not from here "native" is rather telling of the fact that there's a separation between how we advocate you should RP and how the /b/ threads would, or how the normal 2 line F-lister would. If you're going to tell me that we don't in some way view our way as superior, then feel free, but I know what I've seen being in these threads for the last... year and a half? Whatever.

>>22917489
Get a drink, have a cigarette, and look at the stars. It's the best way.
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>>22908604
>>22911355
And I present to you: AISLINNE THE ABRIDGED SERIES

>Linque: *enters the temple*
>Aislinne: *covers your boots with latex*
>Linque: *struggles out and keeps going*
>Aislinne: *sends rubberdrones against you*
>Linque: *avoids them and reaches the sanctum*
>Aislinne: *forms from latex in the middle of the room* ey bby wan sum rubbr
>Linque: *brandishes her sword* Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!
>Aislinne: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute.
>Linque: Tribute!?! You steal men's souls and make them your slaves! Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!
>Aislinne: What is a man? A miserable little pile of rubber! But enough talk... Have at you! *attacks with tentacles*
>Linque: *cuts them off*
>Aislinne: *still has one of them catch on your waist*
>Linque: *cuts that one off too*
>Aislinne: *cutoff end of the tentacle melds into a tight corset*
>Linque: *squeaks in surprise*
>Aislinne: *attacks with other tentacles while you're distracted*
>Linque: *blocks them with her shield*
>Aislinne: *but one of them goes low and gets your ankle*
>Linque: *gasps*
>Aislinne: *the attached tentacle makes latex spread on your legs*
>Linque: *whimpers, drops her weapons and tries to scratch the latex off*
>Aislinne: *makes latex wiggle and grope your legs, scratching does nothing to stop it*
>Linque: *squeals*
>Aislinne: *yanks on the ankle tentacle*
>Linque: *falls on her butt, legs spread wide, arms on the floor for support*
>Aislinne: *starts latexing your hands*
>Linque: *moans and blushes in embarrased arousal*
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>>22917598

>Aislinne: *pounces on you*
>Linque: *gasps in utter surprise*
>Aislinne: *coils her tentacles around your legs and binds them in frogtie with hard latex*
>Linque: *desperately wiggles them*
>Aislinne: *covers more of you with latex, going over the boobs and pussy*
>Linque: *panicky tilts her head back trying to escape it*
>Aislinne: *has the latexing stop just at your chin, but covers everything else with it*
>Linque: *moans at tight latex groping her ass and pussy*
>Aislinne: *has the latex buzz on your clit*
>Linque: *moan and shakes in bliss*
>Aislinne: *covers and pinches your sensitive ears with latex, also adding kitty ears on top of your head*
>Linque: *moans louder in harder orgasms*
>Aislinne: *starts seeping inside your head through the ears while her tentacles pierce your bottom holes, rubbering your from inside*
>Linque: *immediately orgams again, losing her thoughs in the latex in her brain*
>Aislinne: *sets tentacles to vibrate and starts thrusting them in and out*
>Linque: *violently orgasms and squirms on each thrust, losing more and more of her mind*
>Aislinne: *adds the strength and depths on the tentacles while covering your face, turning your mouth into an O*
>Linque: *has almost none of her mind left, eyes rolled back in her sockets as she writhes in constant orgasms*
>Aislinne: *groans in delight as she finishes her newest drone by glazing over your eyes with latex*
>Linque: *is just completely lost in mindless bliss*
>Aislinne: *finally has enough of you for now, removing tentacles and lifting you to put her kitten on it's legs*
>Linque: *swishes her new kitty tail, drolling saliva and juices over her latex body*
>Aislinne: *puts you on a leash and collar and leads you out of the room*
>Linque: *follows like a good rubber kitten*
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>>22917598
>>22917602
Thanks for that.
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>>22917617
I am not sure how to read your reaction.
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>>22917560
>being a responsible human being
That's so lame though.
>>22917598
>that beginning
100000/10
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>>22917622
Ohwait, I didn't see the subtitle in the pic.
Alrighty then.
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>>22917623
>That's so lame though.
That's what I said! Lame, but sadly unavoidable.
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>>22917598
>Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!
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>>22917622
I raughed. It was funny. I thanked you for making me laugh.
Here's another picture of a laughing person to show that I found it amusing.
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>>22917644
Yeah I'm just kinda blind
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>>22917689
We all know what that's from.
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>>22917714
What is? The first raughing picture? I actually don't.
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>>22917719
No. Your blindness.
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>>22917727
Reading too much.
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>>22917598
>Tfw actually missed the opportunity to play out the Castlevania scene
God damn it.
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>>22917587
>Wrong, most people on /a/ are fine with others being into anime, just not posting on /a/.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quibble
Fine, they don't care if people are in the hobby so long as they're not present, and they'll also be targets of ridicule. If anyone doesn't appreciate the hobby in /a/'s pre-approved manner, they can fuck right off. We're not the same.

>/a/ discourages newcomers it has no power of its own to outright reject members it doesn't approve of.
Harassment is the power to reject. But also I got banned for "trolling" because I watched Fate/Zero on Netflix in English without having finished Fate/Stay.

You're also not really explaining HOW we're elitist, or, I suppose, I just don't agree with you.

After all the times I've seen people complain they didn't get play while their profile was shit, yes, getting "better" at RP will give you a better F-list experience.

>If you're going to tell me that we don't in some way view our way as superior, then feel free, but I know what I've seen being in these threads for the last... year and a half? Whatever.
I'll give you that we can be elitist about certain things, but no more than anyone else. No one says those people should go fuck right off, just that most of us aren't into that. I mean, /r9k/ is like that and I never tell him that he shouldn't have fun the way he wants.

Well, I mean, I do, but that's because his fun is *clearly* bad for him, hilarious as the results might be.
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>>22917714
>>22917732
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110414184934AAUGVdO
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>>22917938
Yep that is definitely some of that too much readin.
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>>22917946
It's so tiny!
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>>22917930
>You're also not really explaining HOW we're elitist, or, I suppose, I just don't agree with you.
We are very literally and very explicitly excluding kik sexchatting. We are above them. That is elitism.
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>>22917930
>targets of ridicule
As much as /a/ ridicules its own user base, even insiders are by no means exempt of ridicule. It's fairly even handed in its hatred of everyone, including themselves.
>that incident
I've explained to you why you got banned, I won't do it again. But let's move on to more fruitful discussion.

>How we're elitist
Besides the fact that you have shaming logs on your pastebin for natives that approached you in a silly manner? There's a couple. The main being that if someone is "lesser" in their profile and post length, lesser actually being pretty average by F-list's standards if you venture out of the room, suggesting they get better and write more instead of just saying that they're having bad luck finding partners is pretty telling.

I remember a few shorter post length people here in the old days, they ventured away because their work wasn't up to snuff and was never replied to in the same manners that longer ones were, I remember one time where someone said that they were too short and they could never find satisfaction writing like that.

Do I find there to be an issue with being elitist? No, elitism is good in moderation, it weeds out undesirables, who if truly offended will go and make their own ERP communities elsewhere. Just look at /b/ or the several terrible public rooms on F-list. The severity of our elitism is pretty minor, but it's still present, and I find denying it to be silly.
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>>22917960
>mfw I missed someone jerking off
Damnit. I love tiny dicks, too.

>>22917961
That's like saying the kik threads exclude exchanging snail mail :I

>>22918026
I feel like you and just don't agree on what elitism IS. I mean, "no one liked someone's thing, so they left" isn't what I'd call elitism.
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>>22918051
It's in the reasoning behind why they left is why I call it elitism. A lot of people left because they didn't like it here, but there's various factors that went into that decision. I think that our threads considering certain things lesser, either with words or with agreeable silence, is a good thing but it also does make us elitist.

I love elitism. It leads to awesome uniforms and handshakes and some of the greatest club names in history. Just accept the Reich Rory.
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In less argumentative news

>Half-blank profile just offered me money on Second Life to ERP with them after I outright rejected them
This happens to other people, right?
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>>22918087
That's a whole new realm of pathetic. Impressive.
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>>22918110
I've also had someone who wanted me to make them grind MMO's and the like, as well as wife them in game as my sex slave! Always dominant females attract all the crazy subs!
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>>22918147
Christ. It's bad enough on my Usually Dominant female.
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>>22918147
..I would've probably taken that one just for sheer hilarity.
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>>22918163
Share stories senpai.
>ahegao wagging
Too cute for my heart.
>>22918165
I don't play any MMO's, so sadly I had to pass it up.
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>bookmark a character with appealing kinks, personality, backstory
>too spaghetti to risking contacting them
>log on one day
>out of the blue they contact you first
>extremely compatible ideas for a scene

>this happens twice now with the same profile of mine

So this is spaghetti power...
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>>22918087
Yes
http://pastebin.com/bRJny70h

>>22918110
Mine was REAL money

And I'd insulted him previously

>>22918147
>>22918163
https://www.f-list.net/c/kadira-slut

>>22918219
What was your profile?

>>22918087
In less argumentative news reminding people of >>22915402
>Anyone interested in a game? (You have to actually be moderately known in the thread and also actually get in the Goddamned channel to be eligible)
>The lewdness will be HBO level, but most actual sex is a thing you can do on your own time. No one wants to sit around while you ERP me or another player. But titties and seduction and whatnot are fine.
>I still can't decide what game to run, but you can help choose.
>http://strawpoll.me/6199335
>I think the one I'm most interested in might be Werewolf, because I like pack creation, but other than that I'm whatever. Don't worry if you don't own the books, neither do I, but it's never stopped me.
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>>22918477
jesus thats one blown out asshole.

I mean yeah its kinda hot but I gotta wonder about her medically, you know?
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I just realized the lg part of ddlg is really hot when you remove the dd part and just make it an adult pretending to be like 9. This is nice.
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>>22918973
That's pretty hot, yeah. I also like the Daddy Dom part, though.
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>>22918477
Like you're actually going to run the game, or not harass half the players out of it before it starts. Are you going to work as hard on this as that writing project? I can't really sign on for something that's never going to actually run. Too many times you've rallied for a game and gotten everyone excited then NEVER run more than like a session, if you've run at all. Empty promises.
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>>22919532
>one post in the thread, and of course it's shitposting
Favorite part is the passive-aggressive jab at the beginning, like you somehow think you're being slick. Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just going to snipe at Rory and run, just like you do every time?

btw this is Lili, before you think you're clever by pointing out my new ID.
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>>22919636
I was supposed to be in one of the many games he just dropped without any real closure. I'm a bit salty over that thank you very much. I don't like making a character and putting time into something that someone has offered to run just to have it disappear without a trace.
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>>22919649
Who are you and what game?
Half the time the players have killed my motivation. I mean, the last time I *did* run a game, a player decided to run a game at the same time slot. Literally during the time she was in my game.

Also, on the subject of motivation, I will say that in the last three or four days I've written about 20 pages of Geist 2e homebrew update
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SMgt9996QXnCahP_B6acce9_vZuj5myu_3RC7JYygpw/edit

I'm not saying that I'm totally definitely not going to flake, but at this point it seems like I'm the only one who actually WILL try to run a game, so I kind of have to.
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>>22919683
No offense but you just don't really have any rep as a GM anymore. You never start 90% of your games, despite months of leading people on. I'm still waiting for shipgeists, that was a hype as fuck concept. I wish you at least told me it wasn't going to happen.
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>https://www.f-list.net/c/Plague%20Handyman/
The fuck is going on with those pics?
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>>22919896
>Views: 7
how do you even found that thing
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>>22919863
>I'm still waiting for shipgeists
... who are you?

Rainer doesn't seem like he'd complain about that
Bennie doesn't seem like he'd complain like this
Gwyn doesn't even post in these threads.
The only other player was Syline, and she was barely around to talk about the game and didn't even seem that interested.

That's also the only game that I lead people on 'for months', and most of that was because I couldn't bring myself to do the kind of extensive homebrewing that I'm doing in that Google doc. I was also dealing with players who couldn't be in the same place at the same time and were either too eager or didn't care...

Every game since then--and before then--was basically having a vague idea, maybe thinking about how I'd do it, and then players making characters before I'd even come up with a fully realized pitch or outline, which just kills my mood. Oh, and then there's the game where one of my players actually suffered head injury ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶B̶u̶n̶c̶h̶a̶c̶r̶u̶n̶c̶h̶ but admittedly I wasn't fond of that system.

Like, I'm not going to say I'm not a flake. I totally am. But you're blowing my flakeness out of proportion. DSR tried recruiting for games literally the week she canceled her existing game (that I made three character sheets for), and even THAT game had been after she gave up trying to playtest Unknown Armies 3e. I haven't done anything that bad yet.
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>>22919951
>players who couldn't be in the same place at the same time .... or didn't care...
And thats why I dont sign up :V
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>>22915402
>>22919951
I forgot to mention:

Metal Gear when?

(I kid.)

(Maybe.)

(I still want it though.)
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>>22919967
Because you can't make it when other people can, or because you don't care?

>>22920002
Maybe one day.
But probably easier to do a game that already exists instead of having to make one.
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>>22920015
>Because you can't make it when other people can, or because you don't care?
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>>22919951
Yeah, thanks for that.

>>22920015
Well, Orosboru told me he wants to run a WW2 Metal gear game in gurps. Not sure if its actually canon-based or similar to it, if he actually runs it proper I'll announce it in channel.

Oros is a bit better about these things, having run an Exalted game this year. Load up those lugars, gents!
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>>22920063
>gurps
There is not enough vomit in the world to express my sentiments here. Even Spycraft would be less awful.
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>>22920127
Fallout would like to have a few words with you.
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>>22920143
>fallout
>good system-wise
Kek.
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>>22920063
>Yeah, thanks for that.
That's very vague. I'm not sure which part of that post your sarcasm is referencing.

>>22920143
Fallout *didn't* use GURPS. But as someone who's literally playing Fallout 1 at this very moment...
SPECIAL reminds me of why I hate GURPS.
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>>22920063
>Yeah, thanks for that.
Oh, just realized you're not >>22919863
Oh well, another excuse to post some anal.
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>>22915402
>moderately known in the thread

What?

I mean, I post here every so often, but this is anonymous. How would I be "known" at all?

That said, this does get my interest.
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>>22918973
I really enjoy that kind of thing, in both cute and mean varieties.
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>>22920221
>How would I be "known" at all?
Because the entire point of the thread is linking profiles that our personalities are linked to?
As for the reasoning behind it, it's basically "you're only invited if I don't hate you"

Hang out in the channel more whoever you are :T
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>>22920395
Okay, count me out, I guess. I have no idea who you are and I'm not interested in trying to earn some secret invite.

Also, the channel is kind of boring. It's always been so quiet every time I've looked.
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>>22920422
>It's always been so quiet every time I've looked.
You're lucky :V
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>>22920422
... You do realize that to play a game you have to actually interact with people, right? Like, it's not a "secret invite", it's just that I'd like to know who you are. Knowing who you're gaming with is kind of an important thing. It's not even secret. I'm not hiding anything, I'm literally saying "come get to know us". That's kind of an important step in playing with people.

You're not the person from last thread who made a profile wanting to run a lewd Dungeon World game with strangers, are you, the one who thought talking to people would be "a long con"?

Also, we've been arguing non-stop since noonish.
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>>22920453
I've made all of four posts in the thread including this one, so I dunno what "non-stop" you mean.

>it's just that I'd like to know who you are
But I don't know who you are, so how's that supposed to work? A 4chan thread, even with IDs, isn't exactly a great place to act like people have consistent identities, and the way F-List encourages some degree of separation between player and characters adds to that.

>You're not the person from last thread
No.
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>>22920535
>so I dunno what "non-stop" you mean.
He means in the channel, as response to
> It's always been so quiet every time I've looked.
I think

Also we do have a handful of persistent identities here, of people that have a set pattern and have linked profiles often enough to attach to them.

>>22920453
Anyway, you are asking for an up-front getting to know people, which doth mean a pre-evaluation and an "invite" to join the actual game later IF they pass the evaluation.

The way you phrased it also dismisses chance of starting to hangout in the channel now, seemingly mandating long previous history.
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>>22920535
>I've made all of four posts in the thread including this one, so I dunno what "non-stop" you mean.
I meant in the channel.

>A 4chan thread, even with IDs, isn't exactly a great place to act like people have consistent identities
People have called me Rory like five times in this thread.

I mean, we all know each other. That's why people in the thread have been arguing like they know each other.

Hell, even on /tg/ people know who I am, without a tripcode, name, or ID...

I'm assuming you mean that you're just someone who's lurked these threads but never actually talked with people? Well, one of the reasons I said "people established in the thread" is that... you're going to have to come to the channel and interact with people no matter what! How else would you even play a game?
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>>22920625
It basically means "please don't be some random person who doesn't know who any of us are and just happens to see the game offer". I mean, I want people who ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶e̶ can get along with the group and who are likely to show up/interact. Random pick up players aren't as likely to fit that as people where we already know each other and are regulars.
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>>22920630
Rory stop being dumdum and realize that for the current situation with them, the channel does not hold their interest on their own and they couldn't find interaction with it; having a game could provide a hook for that interaction, but the game is as always uncertainty; so taking double dip uncertainty (maybe game, maybe accepted) is not something worth getting effort to.
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>>22920630
You're notorious, Rory. And not entirely for all the right reasons. It can't be helped.

If somebody wants to dance, then we should be welcoming of that fact. You can always do a quick vetting of 'em to see if they pass muster. It's an opportunity to expand the Hive, you know? The channel is a bit of an acquired taste and I can totally understand somebody not wanting to loll around in it.

But hey, s'your game.
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>>22920656
But even if I was like "you're accepted" they'd still have to find out if they can make the same time other players do, which is made easier by being in the channel or at least a thread regular :T

>>22920659
>The channel is a bit of an acquired taste and I can totally understand somebody not wanting to loll around in it.
I said OR thread. But, like, they seem okay and I'm trying to explain that saying "I'm interested" means nothing if they're never to be seen or heard from again.

Christ, am I going to have to make a profile for people to note or something :I
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>>22920672
Failing at explaining things is your persistent fault m8.
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>>22920656
Yeah, this is pretty much it.

>>22920630
>we all know each other

But I'm living proof otherwise.

>>22920672
>saying "I'm interested" means nothing

Well, yeah, and saying "I'm going to run a game" doesn't mean that much to me if there's no method of contact involved. I'm not psychic.
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>>22920710
Rory is also the guy that demanded new people stop joining a channel he isn't even a moderator in because he didn't recognize them.
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>>22920717
What? Are you doing that thing where you fail to understand the human concept of a "joke"?

>>22920710
>But I'm living proof otherwise.
Well, yes, but that's not everyone else's fault. I mean, there's one reason I mentioned people who are "known".
>Well, yeah, and saying "I'm going to run a game" doesn't mean that much to me if there's no method of contact involved. I'm not psychic.
I told you to go to the channel! The one in the thread topic!

Fine, here's a profile.
https://www.f-list.net/c/hamsaperiel
Send me your resume and an 8x11 glossy.
I might be asleep soon.
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>>22920745
No, I'm doing that thing where you freaked out in nWoD about the number of new people in the channel and said it was ruining your experience.
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>>22920752
I said that the guy no one liked inviting like six people was ruining my experience, yes. That was the beginning of the end...

Also, what I said was that a large influx of new users into what had up until that point been a small circle of friends made me uncomfortable, yes. That's normal. Stop making it out like I'm a jerk who hates everyone.
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>>22920752
Your entire thread contribution so far has been shitposting at Rory. I really think we can safely disregard your opinion on pretty much literally anything.
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>>22920952
>implying bitching at Rory hasn't been 30% of every thread for the last 6 months
It's practically a group past-time at this point.
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>>22921162
And it's exactly as pointless now as it always has been. I know I for one would much rather hear about people fucking than people fucking whining.
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>>22921202
>pointless
Eh, I don't mind it to be honest.
>hear about people fucking
I don't mind mostly because this barely happens now and days, only rubbermonster has been fucking and talking recently.
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>>22908531

>http://pastebin.com/kqgYJZb5
Is this... is this what people really want? All that to boil down to >>22917598 and >>22917602?

No wonder some people don't like the way I write.
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>>22921410
Some people do. Describing sex mechanistically is pretty fuckin' boring after the first pass or two, so - to me, anyway - a lot of the charm comes in seeing how you can *sensualize* it. And that takes extra words.

There is a limit to such things, however. So sayeth somebody who has historically been terrible at sticking to said limits.
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Why is there not more super tight clothing with regular clothes over it? I want the shiny, but I also want to appease my autistic need to have all my characters wear sick jackets as well.
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>>22921679
Undersuits are pretty awesome.
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>>22921731
Too bad it's not a tag on gelbooru. Oh well, second best thing, shiny clothes!
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>>22921741
They've got tags for cat-swarms, but not undersuits? What a mess.
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>>22921801
And I thought I had posted this image. Apparently not.

(Also, stupid Google, that's bubble tea, not a milkshake.)
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>>22921801
Well, bodysuit is there actually, but it gives mostly results where it's only the bodysuit. I wanted something which had the same implication as undersuit... that it's under something else. Oh well, time to try different tag combinations.
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Although after switching up the tags a little this got tremendously easier. Such is life.
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>>22921410
That's an extreme example with two people padding the tits out of their replies to metaphorically measure dick sizes.
Keep in mind it's also formless fucking, just heavily fetishized. Write what you enjoy, don't think that's a bar to measure up to.
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>>22921881
Yep. In the end, the essential thing is you and your partner having fun. It's not the Bulwer-Lyttons.
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>get into casual corruption RP
>everything goes well until I try to fight back
>partner reveals their colors as a shitty free form RPer
>Tries to X, then tries to Y, then tries to Z
>n-no god mode though...

>start an RP heavy adventure
>partner writes... in... present tense... with... a billion ellipses

Why am I never happy
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>>22921801
>>22921741
"Latex" + "Jacket"
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>>22922274
>Find those few partners you synch with unbelievably well
>Have a ton of fun
>Either me or them always fucks it up and nukes their everything
I don't deserve happiness.
>>22922356
Yeah, but Latex + Jacket + ORIGINAL is much more sparse.
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>>22921410
Okay the abridgement is not an exact match on post to post, it's the general gist of things. I had to shuffle around to pretend authentic onelinerism.
Also it was http://pastebin.com/vgqpPW1J this log.

But generally yes. There is only a simple action on the groundest level, but there is a lot of dressing that goes with it.

For example Linque frequently describes her posture (including the jiggling), couple times brings up her backstory as genderbent Link in describing how the changes feel in the combat situation (thats a whole paragraph right there), occasionally actually takes control of the latexing advancing on her body (couldn't do that in the abridgement)

Also Aislinne and buddies are on the far fucking off end. They get up to 2k word replies sometimes.
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>>22921410
>>22923009
I mean, here's the faithful post to action report:

>Linque: enters the temple, looks around, describes what she sees (takes up most of a paragraph), notices latex covering her boots, determines to press on in spite of that, describes encountering and avoiding rubberdrones, arrives at the throne chamber.

>Aislinne: observes Linque's progress, reminisces on what she's doing here in the temple, describes the throne room, does a classical villain laugh, theatrically rises from the floor, detailed description of her form, closes the door, chats a little.

>Linque: is shocked by the dramatic, [elves are quick to recognize lewdness], describes avoiding staring at the nude monster, "Die monster you do not belong in this world", determination.

>Aislinne: laughs again, a lot, more dialogue, moves forward with heel clacks (do not ask how latex heels on latex floor clack), attacks with tentacles.

>Linque: DETERMINATION, description of being hindered by goopy floor and jiggling boobs (plenty describing her curvatures here), cuts off two tentacles but gets caught by third on the waist, "You steal men's souls and make them your slaves! Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!", defesive posture.

>Aislinne: recoiling tentacles, cut-off tentacle at the waist tightens and melts into a corset, sends more tentacles, two hit the shield but third one aims for an ankle, dialogue.

>Linque: reaction to corset, blessed shield burning the tentacles that hit it, succesful ankle tentacle grab, more dialogue bravado.

>Aislinne: speeds up the latex growth on her legs, giving her latex high heels and stockings (lotsa description on them), starts on "ghost hand" molesting on the latexed parts, describes regrowth of her first tentacles trio, tugs on her ankle to trip.

See, there is quite a lot of meat going on in each.
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>>22923153
Oh and still, that shortening post cuts down 2.8 thousands of words by a factor of ten
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>>22923153
>DETERMINATION
...I was going to post an image, but then I realized everything relevant I've got is either loli or furry.
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>>22923181
Eh, let's see how it goes.
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>>22923181
Undertale porn is a bitch to post on 4chins isn't it. Like the only thing that wouldn't get banned is skellingtons boning.
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Who's the one person who was actually interested in Woundgate?

http://strawpoll.me/6199335

Anyway, it seems like Hunter is in the lead by 1, with Werewolf and surprisingly Beast trailing behind. I'll admit I'm still sort of leaning towards Werewolf myself, because of the structure of the game.
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>>22923269
Hey, you're the GM. Your votes have some weighted priority.
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>>22923269
>surprisingly Beast

I'm not surprised. It's basically magic otherkin so it doesn't get the interest of the actual furry fans, and it's aaaall about being totally horrible people beyond even the sort of worst of Vampire, while being edgelord in a way you don't really get from Vampire or Werewolf or even the edgier Hunter conspiracies.
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>>22923289
Which is why I'm surprised that people in this group would want to play it.

I mostly threw it in to pad out the options. I mean, I want to give it a try, but damn is the setting sparse. It's basically "here's how to be a monster, go nuts" without any actual purpose or goal or thing to do besides be a monster and maybe rarely possibly avoid being deaded by a Hero.
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>>22923275
>>22923342
Also you can do a timeframe check for several ideas actually. See which option has the most people that can gather at the same time, rather than just the biggest number which may be irrevocably spread out.
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>>22923600
Good idea.

http://whenisgood.net/erpg_sexy_nwod_game_for_attractive_smart_people
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What sort of fuckable character should I make /erpg/?
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>>22923933
Well, what're you feeling like playing? Give us some starting points.
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>>22923937
I've never felt like playing anything really, not for a long while at least. I just like making characters and letting them form out of a vague concept as I design the profile.

I'm one of those people who say they're fine with everything...
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>>22923993
Find people that have neat profiles which you'd like to play with, then find a bunch of other people with similar wants and make a character that fits their collective interests.
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>>22923707
When it says "duration: 4 hours", do you want us to mark every hour we're available right up until the end (i.e. "I am available 8 PM to 4 AM") or do you want us to specify our available start times ("I can start between 8 PM and midnight")?
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>>22924119
Start
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>>22924016
That feels overly catering to me. Like, I'm fine with a springboard, but if you told me "Make a Lamia that I can wife" then I'd start feeling a bit awkward.
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>>22924221
>That feels overly catering to me.
Yes it is.
>Like, I'm fine with a springboard
But also this.

Look, "I'm into everything so I'm not into anything" is your problem.
The solution is to abandon the breadth. Focus on a niche.
And then pander the shit out of it.
It's not entirely "Make a Lamia that I can wife" because it's not just one guy waifuing, it's more like "make a lamia, a lot of people want them", however I leave the task of determining what the lot of people want to yourself.
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>>22924251
I suppose in that I've found my problem. You're of course right, thanks for the help.
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>>22921881
The problem is I find what they are doing objectively terrible and not a turn on at all (no offense to them personally, just not my thing). Like, I can spew adjectives and affected drama at the speed of light if I want... but I don't want that.

I'm not interested in measuring dicks either, except by stuffing them into me / into others.
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>>22924470
See more detailed abridgement >>22923153.
It's not just adjectives and junk, it's stuffing many things to flow.

Also, would you like to show logs of your style?
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>>22924470
What you describe as a problem isn't a problem, though. As the post you quoted said, write what you enjoy!

I can exchange 600 word posts or 200ish, and I did Moby Dick posts in the past too. I feel the need to stick to an arbitrary size can lead to stiff posts and a lack of enjoyment of a scene. I personally am a sucker for detail but there is a subjective cutoff point when redundance begins.
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>>22924668
I don't know... I have been doing this for some time now, I have profiles on F-list that are 4 years old. And yet I'm starting to feel unsatisfied with my current stable of partners, partly because we're all so busy.

Other people seem to be a lot happier with their erp experience than I am lately, and finding new partners that perform to my expectations and like what I do seems more painful than it used to be. Also, I want to be able to reliably pick people up for one-shots, which means taking the temperature of what most people want and seeing how well I fit that.

Maybe I'm being sensitive, but some people almost seem to get off on being as inconsiderate as possible. I don't know. Maybe it's just me.
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>>22924766
Yeah, I know, I sound like a whiny cunt and I guess I'm playing that part pretty well right now. I just keep thinking that having sexy fun shouldn't involve so much painstaking effort and fear of rejection. Is that so unreasonable?
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>>22924766
>>22924774
Might be you hit a slump, which could potentially be fixed by a break or a new character. I'd taken a break for the better part of this year because I couldn't find a partner to match a character of mine.

It can be very discouraging when you can't find a match (and/or regular partners), but try to hit a balance between sticking with it and giving your attempts enough space in between to avoid frustration. Like you said, it's sexy fun, it shouldn't feel stressful.
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>>22924810
My life is in the trough.
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>>22924810
After reading this thread and the elitism discussion more carefully, I think I may have figured it out. I managed to become a regular and a veteran, but not work my way into the regular / veteran circles. So I have all of the downsides of being an oldfag with none of the benefits.

Hell, for all I know the major players around have more or less blacklisted me and pass around logs of the times they have accidentally played with one of my new characters, and laugh at my immediately recognizable, terrible writing style and hackneyed ideas.

In any case, thanks for your kind words and unflagging reason. Maybe the world will shine again tomorrow.
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>>22924864
What circles lol

Also if all your partners are permanently busy (probably from declining interest in erp desu senpai), just get some new ones.

...also knock off that paranoia.
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>>22924864
>Hell, for all I know the major players around have more or less blacklisted me and pass around logs of the times they have accidentally played with one of my new characters, and laugh at my immediately recognizable, terrible writing style and hackneyed ideas.
Now I want to know what characters are yours. Also, >>22924881
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>>22924881
Well, a person notices things. People who know each other's names, things that are going on, things that are "obvious" to a certain set. The feeling is comparable to a mortal who is just barely aware of the masquerade, but who has not been indoctrinated; they know just enough to know they are left out, but are left on the edge of things, rubbing shoulders with the lowest-run ghouls and other unwanteds.

Sure, it's definitely paranoia, but it doesn't mean it's not true. Mostly I think I tend too much to favour established partners to the detriment of hunting around for new blood. And even the richest vein of lewd oil will runs dry eventually.

I'm looking right now at my complaints typed out and thinking to myself "man, no wonder. who would want a partner in that state?!" I guess I'm just sucker for self-destructive thinking right now.
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>>22924863
Most of us are, lets have a tea party.
>>22924864
>elitism discussion
Considering I was the pro elitism arguer, I feel I've failed if that's what you managed to glean from what I've said. First things first, nobody is passing around shitty logs of you, the only one around here with shaming logs on their pastebin is Rory.
>other people seem happier with their ERP experience than me
Going back a couple of posts to this, that's just how you percieve it. The persons logs who you're using as your example nuked themselves 3/4 months ago while drunk and frustrated. I actually can't think of a partner I have who is happy with themselves when we've shot the breeze OOC, or comes across as such anyways.

You sound like you're just in a bit of a rough spot right now, people have already recommended breaks or new characters as a way to alleviate the feeling, but there's no cure for knowledge. You're right, you're an oldfag now and there's no going back. You either begin to grit your teeth and look for new partners who can satisfy what you want, or you accept what you have and let it effect you less, anything in between doesn't work that well in the long run in my experience. Are you the sort that goes to other for play or lets it come to them?
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>>22924910
Okay for clarity, do you mean in the this thread or in the crowd elsewhere?

And yea you kinda are self-destructive.
Go git some new partners.
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>>22924916
A little of both, I suppose; mostly elsewhere. In any case, getting some new partners seems like the most sensible thing to do.

Thanks everyone for your support. This has been the nicest interaction I've had with anyone I didn't already know in the community for quite some time.
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>>22924950
Okay, I should clarify this:
>This has been the nicest interaction I've had with anyone from the /erp/ community (that wasn't already a regular partner) in quite some time.

It's 9:30 in the morning, and it's my day off. I need to get some sleep lol.
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>>22924957
Well /erp/ is shit, /erpg/ is great. Stop listening to people like Fai and come hang out in the channel.

Also, for what it's worth i haven't played in months.
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>>22924993
>/erp/ is shit
Nah, they're cool. We have you, they have Fai, its pretty even to be honest.
>inb4 I mixed up IDs
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>>22925014
Fai's far worse tho.
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>>22925033
Yeah, but aside from like 2 people everyone hates Fai, and everyone knows the best bonding is hate bonding, and he's gotten more tolerable over time.

Plus, he's banned from chat last I checked so he's irrelevant as fuck.
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>>22925052
>Plus, he's banned from chat last I checked so he's irrelevant as fuck.
Yes he is, but that just adds an extra irritation from him bragging how he's totally going to get back and never get caught.
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>>22925065
>irritation
I find it more funny than anything else.
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>>22924993
Sorry, I meant the erotic roleplay community, not any specific channel. "/erp/ Lounge" and "4chan /erpg/" are both so dead they're hardly worth hanging out in. Most of the lively activity I see is in "/tg/ Chat", and everybody hangs out there anyway so all the other minor schism channels are more or less redundant.

Looks like I couldn't get to sleep after all.
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>>22925014
It's not just Fai. It's the general everything about a place created specifically because of gamergate.

>>22925052
Yeah, but the problem is he still posts on the board.

>>22925122
>4chan/erpg/
>dead
Why do people keep saying this? We talk all the damned time. I'm trying to get a game going. We regularly have 30+ posters.
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Fai always says he'll make it back to the chat, he never does.
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>>22925289
>>22925289
It's dead more often than not. Really a quiet room compared to most places. Usually just some guy going on blogging his life and what game he's playing and not listening to anyone's opinion, I bugged out of there.
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I just hang out here because juggling here AND /erp/ is kinda a bit much for typefucking.

I still check out the place on occasion tho
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>>22925347
I mostly check there for flist bitching threads. Those are hilarious.
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>>22925338
You expect the chat to not... chat?
Currently we're talking about Orikalyn getting her tooth ripped out and also aliens or something. The other channel I hang out in is talking about internships (and it's an RPG channel).
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>>22925371
Chatting is fine, but one person just stating their opinion and braying that no one else is valid isn't chatting. Maybe I went in there on an off day or something. I'll give it another shot.
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>Also Aislinne and buddies are on the far fucking off end. They get up to 2k word replies sometimes.

This is the kind of stuff that justifies my lack of ambition and focus. It seems like a brick wall.

Oh well, we'll see how I feel when i'm actually treating my ADD.
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>>22925383
That sounds like one of the complaints of the channel/me that isn't actually a thing, but is how people see it because they're upset.
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>>22925403
Who are you? I was only in there for a few days. Not really long enough to pin characters to personas.
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>>22925384
The thing is you don't have to be hitting that wall.

It's just one road. You don't have to drive on it.
Even they don't do the 2k craze all the time (first aislinne x linque log is just about 6.5k words on the whole)
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>>22925384
It's funny. After I do anything remotely meaty I look back at it and wonder how I managed to write that much.
It just happens. 99% of the time I wildly throw myself into it and wing it. Hell, my most planned scenes basically only figure out how it starts and a general idea of what'll go down. Fuck that brick wall. Smash your head against it like me, the thick-skulled neanderthal.

>>22925430
Also, this. Seriously. I do scenes of all sizes. I didn't even hit the 2k myself, my biggest reply was just under 1.4k. I mean, yeah, even so, but I regularly do things that're way shorter than that. Just fucking enjoy yourself, don't let what a crazy, latex obsessed slut does dictate what you do.
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>>22925409
Sarah Colt, currently. Who did you hate? It was probably me.
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>tfw someone finally initiates an ERP with YOU and takes an interest in your character without approaching THEM

She was open to all of my kinks, too
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>>22925611
Tell us more.

Although we're at the point of day where everyone is quiet, so I should probably take a nap instead of pry.
But tell me anyway.
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>>22925675
I have a story-focused male naga character that has an intense desire to breed with other races, especially humans. He's sort of tarzan-like in a noble savage and romantic kind of way.

Usually I'm the one approaching people I take an interest in, but last night I was approached by someone really cute who was really into my character. We didn't get to finish because it got late (started pretty late to begin with), but I think I've found a new RP partner.
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Daum that idol's cute. (as a girl too, but the r63 boyversion got the trap factor)
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>>22925732
I want to make that character. I've had it on the backburner for a while. Ditzy transgirl who wants to be more "adult" whatever that means and gets in with a bad crowd, does drugs, gets fucked a lot, probably gets abused. Spends most of her time stoned because an ex got her on drugs.

>>22925721
Link?
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>>22923933
Make a waifu
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>>22925033
Fai is a cunt but at least he doesn't pounce at the first sight of bait. Fai really just acts like an elitist fag and gives bad advice.

>>22925333
If he tries he'll get IP banned. Mods have already nuked his account before.

>>22925351
the Autism and bitching threads are great. I would post that crap here if It wasn't for the fucking thread IDs.
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>>22925757
To my profile? Here you go: https://www.f-list.net/c/mukai%20azurescale/

I still need to refine some things, but he's pretty fun to play.
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>>22924199
Whoops, it actually says that at the top and I'm just retarded. Filled it out. Although I suspect having a random loli in an HBO/Cinemax game might put some of the population off of playing it, and I'd hate to be the reason someone doesn't play. (Could I make a non-loli? Sure, 99% of my characters, ERP and otherwise, have been of legal age. But this is a golden opportunity, because younger characters in WoD are an interesting element.)

Also on that note, it just occurred to me that I could totally play up to the classic "creepy kid with weird powers" thing, a la The Omen and Carrie and such. WoD is kinda perfect for that. Some Hunter splats in particular (Lucifuge and Malleus both, because "holy" can be just as creepy), but Werewolf has its own particular brand of hormonal teenager/maybe-it's-not-just-that-time-of-month kinda thing. And First Change stories are always interesting. Assuming that's even a thing in nWoD; I still need to read the books.
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>>22925122
/erp/ Lounge is pretty lively; what time of the day are you coming in? I mean, sure, it's no /tg/ chat, but in the USTZ evenings there's a lot of chitter-chatter in there, usually.

Honestly, I prefer it to the "4chan /erpg/" channel. Maybe that makes me a dirty traitor, but so be it. It's a relaxed place well-suited for idle chatter; maybe not the lewdest place in the world, but good folk.
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>>22926125
>Whoops, it actually says that at the top and I'm just retarded.
No, I added that because you asked.

Also, yes, you can make a non-loli. Not that I'd mind if you did. I actually like dealing with kids and parents and shit. Although I'd prefer something more teen than preteen.

>And First Change stories are always interesting. Assuming that's even a thing in nWoD
While, yes, that is still a thing, I'm not sure how it wouldn't be.
If you change, there will obviously be a first time for that :V

get in the channel and I can talk with you. I missed my window for a nap, but I woke up too early this morning, so I need something to keep me occupied.

>>22926201
You're a dirty traitor AND you made me cry.
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>>22926201
>maybe that makes me a dirty traitor
You and about 5 more of us are dirty traitors then by my estimation. If anything it would be more shocking if we didn't sleep around.
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>>22926215
>You're a dirty traitor AND you made me cry.

I guess I'm catering to your fetishes, then.

>>22926220
We ought to do a dirty traitor meet-and-greet/casual orgy.
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>>22926125
Why would anyone NOT want to play a cute little girl werewolf who turns into a terrifying killing machine and then self-justifies it with Sailor Moon fanfiction?
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>>22926224
>We ought to do a dirty traitor meet-and-greet/casual orgy.
I would be up for that were I not absolutely awful at group RP
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>>22926201
After some of the threads I've read over there, I'd be concerned. That and I can barely keep up with one room as it is. I panic when things go too fast when I'm expected to actually be paying attention to them.
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>>22926224
Will there be masks? I'm not as bold as you, I want to keep my treachery under wraps for the time being.
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>>22926201
>file name
That's dragonrider Ansa, isn't she.
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>>22926248
Oh, I totally ignore the board itself. Fai's a fucking cancer, as you say. The channel itself is pretty isolated from all that - there's another /erp/ channel that hews more closely to Achtchan, but the Lounge branched off from it over moderation disputes.

>>22926249
Masks are good fun.

>>22926257
You know it. Meanwhile, this picture is way too lanky to be Ansa, but I like it all the same.
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>>22926215
>Although I'd prefer something more teen than preteen.
That's sort of a given where Werewolf is concerned, if it's still tied to puberty like oWoD. Can't have a preteen werewolf if preteen werewolves don't exist. Not that I'd want to anyway; Lili's one thing, but preteen murder-machine is just too much for me. I mean, even Tiny Tina is 13.

>I'm not sure how it wouldn't be.
Well yeah. I just meant, as a relevant and ritualized/culturally important kinda thing, etc.

>get in the channel
No can do, going out for a bit. I'll catch you in a few hours probably, and we'll nerd out then.
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https://www.f-list.net/c/star%20princess%20hitomi/

How much information should I put in a profile? I worry that if I leave it too vague people won't be interested. But if I give too much info I'll be writing myself out of some possible RP scenarios.
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>>22926310
CUSTOOOOOOMS
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>>22926310
The biggest way to lose out on people is by not having custom kinks listed. People, conversely, barely care about the premade kinks being filled out, to the point where I have profiles with 0 premade kinks filled out and people don't mind because good customs.

Anyway, it's a bit sparse. Maybe find some more things to write about. It doesn't have to be a novel, but still.

Also, just a note, your icon seems like the image got compressed in a weird way, it's oddly blurry.
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>>22926343
Customs are useful for searching, but this is where subkinks come in. Truth is that customs are the best and most interesting part of any profile, though.
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>>22926220
>>22926224
Maybe if you two were talking in 4chan/erpg/ instead of /erp/ Lounge then you wouldn't need to betray m--us!

>>22926225
I made a magical girl Hunter faction, but now I'm thinking I chose the wrong splat.

>>22926287
>if it's still tied to puberty like oWoD
Doesn't have to be, I don't think (I'm still reading 2e). Not that I read 1e.
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>>22926371
Some people don't like 4chan/erpg/
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>>22926385
Why? And also those people are lame.
̶I̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶s̶w̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶"̶y̶o̶u̶"̶

Also, one last posting of this. Werewolf is the decided upon game, because it's what I want to play and enough people seem cool with that.
http://whenisgood.net/erpg_sexy_nwod_game_for_attractive_smart_people
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>>22926416
I have no idea who Sarah Colt is. That's who you said you were, currently at least.
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>>22926434
>>22926416
I'll admit, the place can be boring most of the time, even for people who don't hate you, Rory.

I only really hang around as much as I do because I /somehow/ made friends :V
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>>22925289
>>22926201
>not dead
>lively
well, it's a matter of comparison I guess. right now those channels have less than 50 people in them each, with less than 5 people Looking on average; /tg/ Chat has over 200 in it, with more than 20 people Looking.
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>>22926470
We have different metrics of "liveliness," then. I rate it by the amount of dialogue and conversation being had; it seems like you're ahunt for people who are flagged Looking. Fair enough.
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>>22926481
It's not like I don't have those channels active; I do. But when "/tg/ Chat" has cycled so far that the piece of conversation I want to reference is already scrolled out of the default channel log, the other two channels haven't had a single post submitted. Any way you cut it, that seems pretty dead.

I'm not hating anyone or putting their faction down in that basis, it's just a fact. Actually I have an abiding, irrational affection for /erpg/ and some of the people in it. In any case I have been up for something like 34 hours now so I'm going to crash and hopefully get enough energy to enjoy the festivities tonight.
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>>22926343

Thanks for looking it over. I'll try and change things up a bit.
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>>22926434
Sarah Colt is the character I'm currently on. I'm known as Rory, though.

>>22926445
But if people talked more, it'd be more interesting!

>>22926515
4chan/erpg can have stretches of quiet, yeah, but for the most part any time of day there will be two or three people willing to chat if one of them tries to start up a conversation.

I mean, my point is "if the channel is slow, help it grow"
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>>22926515
>Actually I have an abiding, irrational affection for /erpg/ and some of the people in it.
Is it me? It's me, isn't it :3
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>>22926371
Maybe if the room didn't devolve into heated arguments all the time over the most minor of issues, we could have more light hearted cute posting and actually get people to chatter. I don't see that happening anytime soon though.
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>>22926755
That was the problem I had with the room. The moderators were all arguing which sets a nasty tone for the room.
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>>22926765
How about the both of you start coming to the room again and if there's a problem we'll solve it. People argue with each other in a friendly way. It is NOT like everyone is at each other's throats all the time over any little thing.
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>>22926779
I am there most days, and I do contribute. Still, I'm not going to ignore trends, and also you can't just make a bunch of people social by saying "Just join and Talk."
>people argue with each other in a friendly way
My sides.
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>>22926779
The arguing hardly seemed friendly, it was a real turn off.
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>>22926871
>>22926877
Yes, friendly. We're all capable of being adults and liking each other even if we disagree.
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>>22926343
>People, conversely, barely care about the premade kinks being filled out
It's worth noting that some of those are actually really useful, for simple questions of base-level mismatches. For example, with Lili I of course have to check what their opinions are on molesting tweens. If people just used a few basic system kinks (I'm not saying use everything, but hit the baselines at least!), I could just check to see where "Ageplay" is on their list, but most of the time, I have to check for "Cubs / Young Characters", "Younger Partners", "Babyfur" (despite not being furry, it generally holds that people who don't want young furries also don't want young humans), and then scour all their customs just in case they stuck it into one of those. Especially for uselessly broad customs with names like "Things I Don't Like".

>>22926515
>But when "/tg/ Chat" has cycled so far that the piece of conversation I want to reference is already scrolled out of the default channel log
Conversely, that's exactly why I avoid /tg/chat. I can't keep up.

>>22926779
>argue with each other in a friendly way
Different people have different thresholds for calling that "friendly". Personally I agree with them and it's why I often think twice about even bothering getting on F-Chat, because I hate when people get heated over stupid shit, and they don't even stop when I tell them to stop being idiots. At that point, it's a lot easier to remove oneself than to have to fight just to force things back into a tolerable state.
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>>22927074
Goddamnit, Lili, we weren't talking about you.

No one is judging you or telling you that you should do things differently. We're just complaining about the general kind of people on F-list. You clearly don't count when talking abou the dregs of the site because we're all elitists and you're part of the in-group.
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>>22927271
I think that making general statements, with the caveat of "oh, but it doesn't apply to YOU," is hypocritical.
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>>22927291
I don't think "hypocritical" is the right word for it, but it is pretty annoying, since it's just trying to have your cake and eat it too.
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>>22927300
>I don't think "hypocritical" is the right word for it

Yeah, you're right. The correct word fails me at the moment (like all those other moments).
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>>22927300
Why would it?

I mean, just in general saying something is a "red flag" doesn't mean that it's always going to cause a problem.

Otherwise the people in this very thread would play (or play with) dominant shemales less, but I certainly still see them.

I mean, YOU think that dominant shemales are a red flag, don't you? I'm fairly certain you've talked about them in a negative, generalizing way. But you still don't seem to mind of your MILF has a dick.

It's not even about having your cake and eating it, too (although when was the last time you had cake and didn't eat it?) It's just complaining about the kind of people who usually play certain characters on F-list. Dominant shemales, submissive femboys, black guys... this thread has complained about a ton of things that people in this little community are willing to play or play with, because "most" doesn't mean "all".
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>>22927271
I'm watching my movies, I'd rather just step out of a discussion that was only annoying me and actually enjoy myself. Besides, you're supposed to be sleeping. I'll be back in like five hours and we can talk shop.
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>>22927336
>I mean, YOU think that dominant shemales are a red flag, don't you?

I don't think that.
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>>22927336
Sauce!
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>>22927379
>>>/gif/
Why do people keep asking me that? I mean, it's super hot, but I got it from /gif/.

>>22927337
Fine :T

Play pic related as your werewolf.
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>>22927401
But that's not Samantha Wright.
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>>22927074
>Ageplay
That's so non-specific though? What if I wanted to play a MILF pretending to be a loli with a loli pretending to be a MILF?
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>>22927546
Mostly I just mean it's nice when people use *something* from the system kinks, instead of just shoving it into a "Things I Don't Like" custom kink and forcing me to scour their customs just to see if we're even compatible in the first place. Besides, there's a different kink for that. (Although if you wanna be precise, even "Ageplay" is a poor label, since IRL that refers to adults in diapers and such. I guess F-List decided "pedophilia" was an unpleasant thing to say, even for fiction. Which, I mean, I can't fault them.)
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>>22927401
ew
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>>22927575
>there's a different kink for that
What is it?
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>>22927598
Actually it looks like I'm wrong. For some reason I thought Regression was a system kink. Although that'd only cover half of what you said anyway.

Technically, "Ageplay" in its proper RL meaning is a lot closer to what you're talking about, but F-List decided to define it otherwise.
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>>22927624
Having it as a system kink wouldn't help that much, since it still wouldn't separate people who like babyplay from people who don't.
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I just bought Xenoblade X but I also just bought a house and have no time to play it for packing and organizing home owners shit.

I really can't wait until I have a day to just sit and enjoy it.
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Do I have to get another f-list account to have my characters not show up linked together?
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>>22928304
Isn't that solved with the "Show this character in a character list" option?
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>>22928322
Oh, found it! Thank you
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>>22928304
>>22928322
>>22928369
Also there's an option to create separate linked lists so you can have link A+B and C+D+E without crossing each set over with the other.
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>>22926877
>>22926765
What was the arguing topic that time you were in?
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>>22927661
Let me know how it is!
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>>22928938
I'm don't recall exactly. I know the moderators were arguing over something and it got really nasty. It sets a really bad tone for the room when the moderators can't even have a discussion in a polite manner. There was so much insulting and shit slinging going on I just left.
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>>22929123
I know some of the mods yell at each other, then go back to being friends because they don't hold grudges (unlike myself).
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>>22929185
It still looks bad to an outsider trying to get into the room when they're snapping back and forth without any tact or manners. Why do I want to be in a room where even the mods can't be polite?
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>>22929239
We do it for free!

And mostly its the policy of allowing discussion as fire remains at least somewhat controlled, as opposed to /tg/chat's policy of slamming down anything that smells remotely flammable.
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>>22929264
This fire was wild and raging. DSR and another mod who's name escapes me were getting downright abrasive to the point that other users were stepping in and asking them to cool it and they kept going. I want to say the other mod might have been Mokato? (Spelling?)
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>>22929264
Also we generally do not go down to actual flat out insults to each other, so I'm having doubts about veracity of that specific part.
We can get snippy in our argument points, but do not get personal to other side.
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>>22929275
Makoto.

Ooh, was it an argument about writing or world building? IIRC there was one with them about that which got heated way above norm.
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>>22929264
Well, I'm just woken up and maybe too groggy to follow the conversation, but it is reasonable for people to leave a strange place they are not used to hanging out in if they smell a gas leak.

Honestly, it doesn't even really matter if mods were exhibiting or allowing extreme behaviour. The fact is, the room fails to convey a sense of welcome and desirability. And there's no amount of justification that's going to change that, or its effect on your intake.
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>>22929279
Yeah, that was the one. It got really bad. Spilled over into a different thread, really nasty. I didn't feel like sticking around after that. Maybe it's above the norm, but it was part of my very limited exposure to the room that turned me away.
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>>22929290
Yeah, however I'd argue that it's also reasonable to ask to give it another chance if the situation was not an example of the normal state of the chat.
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>>22929310
Sure, you can ask. Just like you can ask a first-time to date to give you a second chance. You can ask, and they can give you that chance, or not, based on their perception.

There is a reason first impressions are important, and that reason is that they are important. I've found that mods are more effective when they're focused on their purpose as moderators, and everything else is secondary (at least on their known mod accounts).

The idea of mods as a group of buddies who know each other well enough to not pull punches in friendly, entertaining arguments sounds great on paper, but doesn't really play well if they're not able to get the "friendly and entertaining" across to the average observer.

Any community stuck in the mindset of "secret club" will eventually collapse on itself unless it has enough draws to bring people on board in spite of that mentality, in which case it will still eventually change or collapse.
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>>22929342
This is my stance. I moderate a room as well. And on my moderator profile I moderate, all business. I have unknown profiles I send in to have fun on, because they don't reflect poorly on the room as a whole. Maybe that's my personal policy that I'm letting dictate my opinion, but when moderators can't openly regulate their own actions in a discussion it looks like the room is a hostile place on the whole.
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>>22929342
Yes, refusal is also reasonable.

"at least on their known mod accounts" wouldn't work anyway given that everybody knows everybody in the small room.

Quite frankly, this channel puts much less importance on mod position than is the standard. That has some negatives, yes.

>Any community stuck in the mindset of "secret club" will eventually collapse on itself unless it has enough draws to bring people on board in spite of that mentality, in which case it will still eventually change or collapse.
I do not really see a problem with that.
There are always only two outcomes: secret club that stays together for a time before potentially dying, and a blow-up ballooning (tgchat).

Small channels die and be reborn, giant channels lose their way unless they splinter.
There is no ideal heaven, nothing lasts forever.
Only difference is the road you take.
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>>22929361
Pretty much. An erotic messaging lounge should read and play like the Garden of Earthly Delights, never empty and never full; not a scruffy shipping container full of coarse vagrants who eye newcomers suspiciously or ignore them in favour of fighting over some dead associate's scraps. But, like you said, that may be my personal taste. Like I said, I actually have a strange affection for 4chan's erp threads and some of the people in them, and by extension the F-list channel and some of the people in that. But that doesn't change what I see going on with its health as a community.
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>>22929292
>Spilled over into a different thread, really nasty.
That's because someone who wasn't even DSR posted in the thread I linked because they have it out for me.
Also, that's not really the norm. Heck, DSR hasn't been around since the holidays started.

>>22929290
>The fact is, the room fails to convey a sense of welcome and desirability
I don't really... agree with that? I mean, I know that I can be rude, but at the same time both me and the rest of the channel are incredibly welcoming. I have no idea who Thragar is, and they seem to dislike me, but we're not going to exile them or anything. Geiseric is new and admits that I can be rude, but also seems to enjoy the channel. Some people, like Heiho, seem to stick around because we were nice to them and tried to make friends.

>>22929342
>I've found that mods are more effective when they're focused on their purpose as moderators, and everything else is secondary (at least on their known mod accounts).
I've found otherwise. People too concerned about BEING MODS are the kind who end up like /tg/chat, and step in to shut down anything that might cause an argument, even if it can also lead to good wholesome discussion.
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>>22929398
I don't know who you are, anon. But I have to say I absolutely love the way you phrased that. You can separate liking a thing from liking the direction it's taking. And you absolutely nailed the way the room comes off to a newcomer. I felt very much like a lot of things I said went completely ignored because I wasn't already a known member of the room. A moderator should be part peacekeeper and part welcome wagon. I saw neither present.
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>>22929413
>I felt very much like a lot of things I said went completely ignored because I wasn't already a known member of the room.
I didn't do that. I had doubts about exact situation given your professed only vague rememberance, but after clarifying I agreed that you got into a bad one indeed.

(I kinda accidentally stopped replying to you for the last couple posts because replies to 0OXsmTkH covered all the same things, sorry mate)

Also I have no idea who the other guy is in the actual channel either.
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>>22929400
Oh, you were the other mod in that. And the fact that it spilled into the thread wasn't the worst part of it. You seemed genuinely upset that a conversation grew out of something you said. Like, offended on a deep level that people weren't following your plan for how a conversation would go. It came off as very self-centered and assertive over the topic of discussion in the room.
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>>22929400
>People too concerned about BEING MODS are the kind who end up like /tg/chat, and step in to shut down anything that might cause an argument, even if it can also lead to good wholesome discussion.
Aaand here we have the official policy of the channel, with all the up and downs.
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>>22929425
Oh I'm not saying in this thread at all! You've been very nice. I meant when I was actually in the room. I don't feel ignored in this thread, I'm so sorry if what I said came off to imply that. You're delightful.
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>>22929433
Ah, alrighty then. No probs.
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>>22929400
That you, Rory? It's not something that you agree with or don't agree with, because whether or not YOU get a sense of welcome and desirability from the room, others do not.

If a torch is only bright enough to make the cavern visible to those party members with low-light vision, or dark vision, has it succeeded in lighting up the room? I would say no. If it only succeeds in conveying friendliness and welcome to people who are already comfortable going there and who consider it their place, what significance does that have for newcomers? None.

>>22929381
The idea that /erpg/ can only inbreed until it dies or bloat until it's meaningless is a fallacy.

>>22929413
>I absolutely love the way you phrased that.
I wish I could translate your love of my phrasing into an agreement involving breathless, graphic, repeated typefucking.
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>>22929398
You put the matter succinctly and accurately.
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>>22929398
>not a scruffy shipping container full of coarse vagrants who eye newcomers suspiciously or ignore them in favour of fighting over some dead associate's scraps
But that sounds like exactly the kind of scene set up I'd want. Arika is the scraps.

>I actually have a strange affection for 4chan's erp threads and some of the people in them
Is it me? It's me, isn't it :D

>>22929413
>A moderator should be part peacekeeper and part welcome wagon.
It legitimately hurts me that you say that, because I've tried time and time again to engage newcomers. I'll even check new names and give profile feedback, saying what I like or what questions I'd want answered, giving more art, or fixing avatars. I legitimately try to make people feel welcome, even if I'm rude with the old hands. And like I mentioned before, I feel like I've had success at least with some people.

>>22929427
That's not what happened :T
What happened is I talked about a thing I was interested in, clearly stated what I wanted to talk about, and then got pushed out of the conversation in a very "fuck that, let's talk about my thing" way.

>>22929432
I'm fine with that, really. I mean, yes, I should be less of a jerk, in general, throughout life, but I'd much rather be a Mod of the People as opposed to someone dictatorial and oppressive and aloof. I mean, everyone either knows or should know that I'm incredibly unlikely to ban them because of a personal disagreement, for instance. And I'm likewise willing to stand up and defend people or things that I don't even personally like.
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>>22929464
>I mean, everyone either knows or should know that I'm incredibly unlikely to ban them because of a personal disagreement, for instance.
Newbs don't.
They fear the power of the chaos emeralds.
When the authorities descend from their ivory towers, they evoke fear and respect.
And when the powers seem to be in rage, it is quite frightening.
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>>22929461
I can't tell if you're coming onto me. Are you coming onto me. Oh gosh I wasn't ready for this.

>>22929464
It may not be the way YOU saw the situation unfolding. But from my point of view the conversation topic shifted and you got very passive aggressive about it and made it feel like the conversation had to be your conversation.
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>>22929485
I said I wished I could make you typefuck me graphically and repeatedly until we both run out of air. I don't know how I could be more direct. <3

>>22929463
I appreciate that rump, that swell of the breast and the curve of the back. God, I don't have time to be this aroused lol.

>>22929464
>I've tried time and time again
>everyone knows or should know
Again, I think you're an okay friendo, deep down. But in a position of visible leadership and authority, one shouldn't lean on statements of "I try to X" and "people should know Y". Think and talk in terms of what you have actually done, and what this has actually accomplished.

>>22929381
>"at least on their known mod accounts" wouldn't work anyway given that everybody knows everybody in the small room.
Really? Who am I? I've been hanging around these threads and these rooms for more than 4 years. Is it really that hard to have an administrative persona separate from your fucky-fucky personas?
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>>22929531
You type in such a pretty, flowery way. I'll run out of air very quickly at that rate. You're already giving me the vapors.
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>>22929464
>"not a scruffy shipping container full of coarse vagrants who eye newcomers suspiciously or ignore them in favour of fighting over some dead associate's scraps"
>But that sounds like exactly the kind of scene set up I'd want. Arika is the scraps.
I know you were joking, but maybe that's the problem. The room isn't your private scene.

(By the way, you are being a fucking professional about responding to all of this criticism. Thank you for treating the discussion with so much light-hearted and friendly respect.)
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>>22929531
Everything about that picture is fantastic. I love that look in her eyes; the way she's arching her back, as if propping herself up against a wall. Combined with the gauzy gown that teases at all those lines and curves beneath but conceals the explicit details...
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>>22929531
And who am I? I am a mod in it, but do you have any idea which?

It's easy to separate the thread from the channel. It's automatic, even, you need to link on purpose.

But if you are persistent in the channel, chatting about things, people will know you unless you specifically pull a stringent hiding routine to disassociate your profiles (and specifically make a mod profile nothing more than a podium to do mod things from).

Also people kinda need to know you before you get a mod seat, so you need to make a specific alt to sneak away from the rest of the team.
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>>22929547
Lol thank you! But you never know, I my top 5 kinks could be your top 5 No's... I mean it's not likely, but it could happen. Maybe our characters don't have compatible tabs/and or slots!
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>>22929573
Shhhh, let's just eloquently put our parts together and see what happens.
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>>22929569
Why does a mod have to chat on their mod account, exactly?

>Also people kinda need to know you before you get a mod seat
This is not strictly true. You can take people on a trial basis, very publicly so any misbehaviour doesn't reflect too badly on the administration, and observe them overtly and covertly, quiet increasing the amount of trust you have in them and randomly verifying sure they are living up to that trust until they are de facto moderators in good standing.

I know it sounds really complicated for me to explain in words like that, but this is the same instinctual process that small animals or little children learn to gain each other's trust, it just sort of happens naturally.
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>>22929589
You willing to stick your neck out first and link a profile? lol there will be no guarantee that the person you get is me, but you might have fun anyway.
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>>22929599
Maybe soon. I don't actually have nearly enough time to get into any serious erp with holidays and other responsibilities breathing down my neck. I have some time coming my way though.
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>When the moderators fight, it's just some friendly debating!
It's...so, so, so very not friendly debating. It's especially not friendly debating when they treat people they barely know the same way. The room would be infinitely better if 2/3 of the mod team just left. They're the absolute worst parts of the room. Two of my best friends won't come back to /erpg/ over the mods.

>>22929464
>I'll even check new names and give profile feedback, saying what I like or what questions I'd want answered, giving more art, or fixing avatars. I legitimately try to make people feel welcome, even if I'm rude with the old hands.
You spent thirty minutes talking about how awful my second ever character was and giving 'helpful tips' about how literally every part of them was awful until I deleted them. You did make a better icon for me, which was nice, but, like...you also make people hate themselves.
I don't think you are a bad person, but you do very, very bad things. I think that you need to step back and look at how people treat eachother, and see how that's received, and then look at how you treat other people, and see how they react to you, and look at what is different. It's not that you do the same thing as other people and other people hate you for it, it's that you act like a bad person and then expect to be treated like a good person for it.

>>22929599
Make anonymous throwaway alts to contact eachother with, you adorable little romancers.
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>>22929461
Yeah, but I go out of my way to welcome people, but I'm being told I'm not welcoming.

>>22929485
>It may not be the way YOU saw the situation unfolding
Well, I do literally know what I was feeling and why I was upset, yes.

>>22929593
>Why does a mod have to chat on their mod account, exactly?
It's not that they do (I mean, *I* don't and I'm the one people are complaining about).

>This is not strictly true.
No one in the history of ever will mod a stranger in a group with less than hundreds of people.

I mean, that's just how it works. It's not nepotism, it's knowing who you work best with.
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>>22929605
Yeah, the holidays are like that. I always feel bad when partners see my posting in the thread across several hours and I have to tell them "yeah but well, you know, actually playing takes dedicated, sit down, lube-up time". I know they understand, and they're really good about it, but sometimes I feel like I can hear their little hearts breaking.
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>>22929593
>Why does a mod have to chat on their mod account, exactly?
Because it's a character and a character that you presumably want to be on from time to time? That is unless
>specifically make a mod profile nothing more than a podium to do mod things from

And then you chat at your OTHER characters all the time (because you're an active chat member), and it's still possible to connect that the mod character pops in.

>You can take people on a trial basis
Which people? Random nobodies from outside the channel?
Otherwise they are known people. Hell they become known people over the trial anyway.

Look, hiding the mods is possible, but it requires very highly specific effort from everybody involved. And it wins nothing of substance.
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>>22929610
>f 2/3 of the mod team just left.
>Two of my best friends won't come back to /erpg/ over the mods.
Which mods, I'm curious? :D
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>>22929616
It's what the holidays do. For being the 'happiest' time of the year December is the worst time for ERP. I can banter freely, but I just don't have the time to sit down and typefuck for several hours.
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>>22929610
Sorry, no, three. Ivan won't come back either because Rory just casually started talking about how much of an asshole Ivan is in front of him, as if he wasn't in the room. I've wanted Ivan in erpg since its original creation, but he got chased out on day 1. I also know that Tacitus and Sara won't come back to /tgnWoD/ because of Rory, but that was before erpg's times.
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>>22929625
The ones who fight almost every day.
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>>22929629
>I also know that Tacitus and Sara won't come back to /tgnWoD/ because of Rory, but that was before erpg's times.
Ha, those guys.
Their vendetta is hilariously silly.

>>22929649
berry specific there mate
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>>22929612
>Yeah, but I go out of my way to welcome people, but I'm being told I'm not welcoming.
It's nothing personal, it's just a byproduct of being an overwhelmingly visible representative of the room's social structure. For example, a few weeks ago I remember a lurker tentatively trying to integrate into the channel's conversation (which was mostly you, as per usual and which is totally fine). I think the poor person tried to chip in politely with questions or whatnot 7 or 8 times before giving up. The didn't get a single response.

Now, did I stride up, clap them on the back and shower them with free swag? No, but then again I'm just a private citizen, not a moderator. And I did comfort them privately afterwards.

Did you do anything WRONG, per se? Not at all. You were engaged in conversations and in the rush of things, someone's posts fell through the cracks. It happens. So you're not a bad guy or anything. But did you perform well as a friendly, welcoming presence and moderator? I think you see where I'm going with this.

Saying you have room to improve and saying you're at fault aren't the same thing, at least to me.

>No one in the history of ever will mod a stranger in a group with less than hundreds of people.
Well, I've seen and done it myself, so. I guess you can disbelieve me if you want.

>>22929621
You make it sound like some convoluted undertaking, but it's kind of internet 101 for most people I know. Sure, not everyone has that knack... but not everyone is cut out to be a moderator.

>And it wins nothing of substance.
This entire discussion thread stemmed from the idea that the room could be improved by mods comporting themselves more effectively on their mod accounts, to which it insisted that doing so was impossible considering the small size of the room. (Let's ignore for a second the disturbing implication that they can't or won't regulate their own behaviour, either in general or even just on their mod accounts.) So really...
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>>22929629
>Ivan won't come back either because Rory just casually started talking about how much of an asshole Ivan is in front of him
>Somebody anonymously talking about me while also claiming I'm one of their best friends
Alright, now I'm curious. PM me on F-Chat I guess?

And for the record, that chatroom isn't on a "never go in there again" list for me or anything, but that happening the first time I poked my head in there was probably a reason why I didn't decide to start hanging out in there regularly, yeah.

Also, hi. I should really be going to bed instead, but sitting around on the Internet instead of going to bed is nothing new for me.
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>>22929680
Well to be fair, being one of their best friends isn't the same as them being one of your best friends. Asymmetry being natural and healthy and all.

>all the namedropping going on
See, this is why I feel like I'm out of the loop, lol.
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>>22929676
>(Let's ignore for a second the disturbing implication that they can't or won't regulate their own behaviour, either in general or even just on their mod accounts.)
They do not regulate their behaviour to some higher standard than what is set for everybody else in the room.
(Also Rory literally can't regulate himself at all, and that's the benchmark for that general rule set for the populace.)

>You make it sound like some convoluted undertaking,
Because it is.
Having a set of alts that you do not do anything in the room but hop on when there is modding to be done is convoluted. It is also convoluted to make everybody in the room to act like they don't know you're the guy behind Judiciary #5.
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>>22929695
I'm just curious who's talking about me in here. I haven't been on F-List much at all lately.

And I'm only noteworthy because I'm the guy into whose lap Rory dropped ownership of the nWoD channel one day, so that we could keep a useful chatbot in there (that was written by someone who absolutely hates his guts).

I also know a bunch of stuff about WoD, I guess.
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>>22929695
>this is why I feel like I'm out of the loop
I have no idea what an Ivan is and I thought I was at least fairly well in the loop, so don't worry.
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>>22929712
I'm just some dork who used to spend a lot of time on F-Chat who spends a lot less time on F-Chat nowadays. I also generally get along with people, I guess?
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>>22929701
>They do not regulate their behaviour to some higher standard than what is set for everybody else in the room.
You see, this is a problem.

Think about this for a second:
1. The mods can't or won't hold themselves to a higher standard of behaviour than the rest of the room.
2. The standard of behaviour is the MINIMUM expected of anyone who comes in the door.
3. The mods' behaviour becomes the benchmark, or the ideal, of the room; and there are always those who fall below the ideal.
4. Cycle back to Step #1, where the mods set themselves to the lowest standards in the room.

This is a decaying orbit.

>Having a set of alts that you do not do anything in the room but hop on when there is modding to be done is convoluted.
No, it's just like turning off your personal phone and wearing a uniform if you're a police officer. Nobody has to act except you, and that's just to act like you're doing your job. We're talking basic life skills here.
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>>22929745
>4. Cycle back to Step #1, where the mods set themselves to the lowest standards in the room.
No cycle. They have a level. Everybody who is significantly below them (by now it's a couple of /pol/ shitters) gets removed.

>No, it's just like turning off your personal phone and wearing a uniform if you're a police officer.
That doesn't function for the site.
You're here to chat and lewd. Not to be a cop and nothing but a cop. We do it for free.

So you either
>behave as you want on a mod account
or
>have an annoyance of sitting on one alt and needing to bring online the other if you need to drop a /warn
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>>22929610
>Two of my best friends won't come back to /erpg/ over the mods.
Who is that?
All I can think of is Este. >>22929629
But Ivan and I talk all the time. He doesn't come to /erpg/ because he barely even goes to the channel that he moderates. Hell, he used to not even log into /tg/nWoD sometimes, even as the primary moderator. Ivan isn't avoiding the room because of me, he's avoiding it because he just doesn't care.

Also... Tacitus and Sara are assholes who've burned almost every bridge. Their games where one long conga line of people bitching to me in PM about how shitty they were being and not listening to their players, and then they do asinine shit like start a game back up with a new group and don't even tell anyone from their old group. That's a shitty fucking thing to do.

Also, they left--well, Tacitus left; Sara just followed because lolmarriage--because Ivan pointed out that Tacitus was being an asshole to me, and Tac didn't like that Ivan stood up for me.

Like... you've got your facts really messed up.

Also, I was gone from /tg/nWoD for almost four months and they didn't go back.

>>22929610
>You spent thirty minutes talking about how awful my second ever character was and giving 'helpful tips' about how literally every part of them was awful until I deleted them. You did make a better icon for me, which was nice, but, like...you also make people hate themselves.
What character was that? Why would you even do that in the first place?
Was this one of those things where I gave you advice and you decided that instead of taking it you'd just burn everything?

>>22929649
You mean me :T
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>>22929766
>No cycle. They have a level. Everybody who is significantly below them (by now it's a couple of /pol/ shitters) gets removed.
So basically, you're already scraping the bottom. Congratulations.

>We do it for free.
You chant that like it's some kind of protection spell, and not a meme about an uppity nobody trying to justify them doing a shit job at moderating content. Like, seriously, google "he does it for free".

>have an annoyance of sitting on one alt and needing to bring online the other
Maybe people who don't want to handle administrative functions shouldn't occupy administrative positions? Just a thought.

And besides, you know you can just have two tabs open at once, right? I know it doesn't solve your problem entirely, but it's worth mentioning. I'm honestly surprised the moderators of a community of tabletop players is having trouble with the idea of playing separate roles.
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>>22929789
>So basically, you're already scraping the bottom. Congratulations.
Then why do you still hang there? :V
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>>22929676
>I think the poor person tried to chip in politely with questions or whatnot 7 or 8 times before giving up.
I honestly don't remember that...
I mean, I even try to PM people if I see them jump into the channel and then leave while still being on F-list.

>You make it sound like some convoluted undertaking, but it's kind of internet 101 for most people I know
If you hang around people, they're going to figure out who you are, unless you're actively engaging in subterfuge (which some people, myself included, find a betrayal of trust). I mean, look at Este. She gets pissed when I call her "Este" on a "secret" alt, but she acts the same across all characters.

>(Let's ignore for a second the disturbing implication that they can't or won't regulate their own behaviour, either in general or even just on their mod accounts.)
But that's not even remotely true. I mean, not only am I better now than I was before, let's be honest, the average human being in general isn't really able to regulate their behavior, which is why so many of the same problems crop up, even the ones unrelated to me.

And let me just defend myself here and point out that I *do not* argue the way that everyone else argues. Despite common opinion, to me "winning" an argument is not about getting people to agree with me, it's about facilitating understanding. Most of the actual arguments I have are about things that I can cite. Even the ones that are subjective, I try to articulate why I feel a certain way. When I argue, I can be rude, but rarely if ever am I as bad as other people. I'll never tell someone "kill yourself", and I'm far too Ess Jay Dubleyoo to use the go to gendered, homophobic, or ableist insults that are most common and hurtful. I don't bring up personality flaws. I even argue in defense of things that I, personally, dislike.

I mean, come the fuck on. You people give me like zero credit and I'm just sitting here trying to take some pretty harsh abuse with a level head.
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>>22929805
Because not everyone there is you, obviously.

lol but seriously, I have nothing against you personally. But that doesn't change the effect of the policies you're defending. Bou saying "well fuck off then if you think it's so bad" is avoiding the discussion. Do you really want the channel to be full only of people who think that everything is going great the way it is, forever and ever until it all falls apart? You can love and care for a thing with great affection and loyalty and still recognize when it is hurt or sick. Or even just when it can do better, if only the people with the power to influence things cared enough and stepped up that little bit.
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>>22929827
>Because not everyone there is you, obviously.
But you're arguing that the whole mod team is shit because they argue, and they compose a solid portion of active channel members and the actual activity in the channel.
Right there in the bit I quoted you insulted everybody at once.

>But that doesn't change the effect of the policies you're defending. Bou saying "well fuck off then if you think it's so bad" is avoiding the discussion.
I am not.
I am defining how things are.
You are demanding a sky-high standard of only sparkless human beans being allowed to mod. And because we are not, then we are automatically the lowest of the low.

>You can love and care for a thing with great affection and loyalty and still recognize when it is hurt or sick.
What you call sickness is dying of old age: technically true, but can't be helped.
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>>22929709
Which is why I won't make that mistake again :V

>>22929712
Ivan is from /tg/nWoD, which is the precursor to 4chan/erpg/, in that many of the founding members are people who moved from /tg/nWoD when Ivan banned me for three months ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶s̶s̶h̶o̶l̶e̶. It kind of killed /tg/nWoD in that all the people who talk there are Natives who just shitpost.

>>22929745
>>22929789
4chan/erpg/ is honestly one of the better maintained channels I've been in. We don't have the same low quality shitposting that other channels have, and there's none of the /pol/gamergate stuff you get in most of the other 4chan rooms.

Also, you're still asking a lot. I mean, *I* don't sit on my mod accounts. People still know I'm the moderator and room owner.

Even when we DO have arguments, it never feels anywhere near as bad as the arguments from elsewhere. I mean, fucking Line stumbled into the channel and almost immediately started bitching about me, not realizing I was the room owner. He was talked to by one of the mods and he said some pretty shitty things about me, acted like I was "faking" being trans/genderqueer, and said he didn't respect calling me "she" when Ori corrected him, and generally just acted like I had done something other than call him out on being a jerk.
I hadn't spoken to or interacted with Line even tangentially in like two fucking years and he still was butthurt about our interactions from before I was banned from /tg/chat.

Likewise, the owner of D&D Pathfinder OOC started bitching about me completely unprompted in his channel one day, not realizing that I was in it on an alt. When I pointed out that he was holding a massive grudge based entirely on being called out for bad behavior, and then I corrected his understanding of Werewolf: the Forsaken, he banned me and acted like he was anything but spiteful.

That? that shit doesn't happen in 4chan/erpg/. No one fucking hates anyone for years.
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>>22929856
>No one fucking hates anyone for years.
Este :V
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>>22929817
>I honestly don't remember that
Of course not. I'm not expecting you to. Just know that it happens, despite all good intentions.

>If you hang around people, they're going to figure out who you are
Okay, like I said, who am I? I've been hanging out and chatting with you for something like 4 years.

>I *do not* argue the way that everyone else argues
Your motivations aren't under fire here. I've already said I don't think you are a bad person, or that you have bad intentions. But at some point, when you are actively and significantly contributing to the state of a community, objectively destructive outcomes can't be handwaved with phrases like "a good person underneath" and "good intentions" and "it doesn't come from a place of antagonism".

Really, you should be talking to ZJ3VtO8Y if you need to defend your level of self-regulation. They're the one that said you can't self-regulate, not me.

>>22929846
>You're arguing that the whole mod team is shit because they argue
>Right there in the bit I quoted you insulted everybody at once
Really I didn't do either of those things.

The mods should care if normal, decent players are turning 360° and walking away upon entering the room for the first time. Especially so if the mods themselves are directly implicated.

Saying that you're scraping the bottom refers to kicking out the lowest of the low. There are plenty of people who behave better than the absolute minimum; that's how minimums work. It's a shame that instead of bringing up the average, the mods prefer to scrape the bottom.

>I am not.
You did pretty much tell me to fuck off if I think it's so bad. "Then why do you still hang there? :V", remember?

>sky-high standard of only sparkless human beans
Really? You think that to behave yourselves is to extinguish the unique spark that makes you, you? I mean I have a flair for the dramatic myself, but that is just too much.
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>>22929785
>Hell, he used to not even log into /tg/nWoD sometimes, even as the primary moderator.
Admittedly that was mostly because I was tired of the hostility and shitflinging and getting flagged down to do something about it when I was trying to sit in channels while also doing other things.

>Also, they left--well, Tacitus left; Sara just followed because lolmarriage--because Ivan pointed out that Tacitus was being an asshole to me, and Tac didn't like that Ivan stood up for me.
To be more accurate, I said you were both being dicks and at fault. Tacitus didn't like that I didn't put all the blame on you because even though you're a known shit-stirrer who gets into arguments all the time, you weren't the only one at fault at the time.

He also accused me of favouritism. So have you, IIRC, regarding the way I dealt with you having arguments with Tacitus. When both sides are accusing me of favouring the other I'm not really sure what to make of it, aside from "christ I hate being a mod".
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>>22929789
>>22929856
Like, I realize I'm getting angry and using words like "fuck" after someone praised me for being so level headed, but I really take offense to having my channel and the people in it, many of whom I consider friends, being called "the bottom of the barrel".
We have problems, yes, but we're a good channel.

>>22929827
>>22929846
I'm just saying... 4chan/erpg/ regularly has 30+ members. It has relatively few arguments compared to other channels, and MOST of the people in the channel actually like each other. I'd say that that's... pretty good, all things considered. Yes, we could have less arguments, but at the same time a lot of people consider any sort of disagreement an argument.

The other day someone came into the channel pretty much to shit on me because me and another person were talking about... I forget, rape and consent, maybe? It was an adult discussion and this poster just goes "oh, look, you're arguing again". When I told her off for being a bitch and trying to start shit, she took to another channel and started accusing me of things and blaming me for her own problems. It culminated in a moderator getting involved, and as far as I'm aware on my behalf.

Another incident of GRUDGES that don't tend to happen in 4chan/erpg/. Even Edgar, who several months ago people said I should ban, is a decent enough poster in the channel.

There's a lot of people in the thread complaining about the channel, but a lot of those complaints are kind of unfounded. The channel is not "dying of old age". If anything it's growing. And that's kind of a fact.

>>22929868
>Implying Este is in the channel
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>>22929885
>Okay, like I said, who am I? I've been hanging out and chatting with you for something like 4 years.
Stop that. Its dumb to pull in the thread.

>Really I didn't do either of those things.
You directly declared that mods are unable to not to sink to utter shit if they dare to be any way laxed, and then declared that they are already on the bottom of the barrel.

>You did pretty much tell me to fuck off if I think it's so bad. "Then why do you still hang there? :V", remember?
That was a response to you directly declaring the mod team and chat utter shite.
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>>22929896
>>Implying Este is in the channel
She was for a while and is not technically banned, is she?
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>>22929885
>Your motivations aren't under fire here.
I'm not defending my motivations, I'm talking about my methods.

>Okay, like I said, who am I? I've been hanging out and chatting with you for something like 4 years.
I... can't think of anyone I've known for 4 years on F-list. Bennie or Gwyn is the closest, but you don't at all seem like Bennie. And I've known them since 2007.

>>22929891
>getting flagged down to do something about it when I was trying to sit in channels while also doing other things.
Yeah, well... your channel is worse off than mine, just saying. It doesn't help that your reaction is a very noncommittal "este, stop doing that" that she takes as "Rory is why you can't have fun posting /pol/ shit", not "stop posting stupid bullshit because it's stupid".

Also, I didn't accuse you of favouritism. I accuse people of buying into the hype that I'm a bad person.

Also, dude was totally at fault. He out of nowhere started shit and didn't like when I said "dude, that's not very nice of you".

>>22929906
True on both accounts. She's afraid of you, for some reason. And also me. And mad that I didn't tell Orikalyn off. Except that I did, but not because she wanted me to. It's hard to keep track. In the end it's because we don't allow her shitposting.
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>>22929856
>>22929885
>>22929902
As an outsider, it's clear to me that you all should hate fuck.
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>>22929917
>Yeah, well... your channel is worse off than mine, just saying.
This is what happens when you have channel ownership foisted on you at random one day with no warning, and then eventually drift away from F-List in general. I'm tired.
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>>22929856
>4chan/erpg/ is honestly one of the better maintained channels I've been in.
Oh, agreed. Long Tail, and all that. But don't you think that as a moderator and major tone-setter of 4chan /erpg/ that your statement is a little self-congratulatory and potentially biased?

>Even when we DO have arguments, it never feels anywhere near as bad as the arguments from elsewhere.
Again, your feeling are not the only feelings at play here. You can take some bitching? Great! That's the cost of admission into social interaction on the internet, not sign of moderating skill.

>No one fucking hates anyone for years.
What, like this is a glowing recommendation? Mostly because everyone who was going to go on a ridiculous hate vendetta already has, from the sounds of things, and those who are new and those who know better see it early enough to just leave.

For once and for all, you're not shit. I certainly never said you were. Why do you equate any criticism of channel operations as a personal attack? My mom might have been a shitty cook, but that wouldn't have made her a shitty mom or a shitty person. If she admitted it though, she might have a chance of avoiding putting herself in situations where her lack of skill caused problems that hindered her stated goals, or where it would cause her embarrassment, or maybe even improved herself.

Like I'm glad you can point out good things about the channel. I see them too. But is that supposed to, like, make the criticisms not exist? Again, talk to ZJ3VtO8Y about "dying of old age", those aren't my words.
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>>22929932
It wasn't without warning! I asked you first! I said "Eilie is threatening to blacklist the channel unless I step down as moderator, you're the only one I can trust".

OR SO I THOUGHT

>>22929936
>Long Tail
What?

>don't you think [...] that your statement is a little self-congratulatory and potentially biased?
Yes, and...?

>Why do you equate any criticism of channel operations as a personal attack?
I'm not. I've several times admitted that the channel could use improvement. But when we're one of the better maintained channels where there isn't cliques of people who hate each other, but people are still acting like we're at each other's throats and everything is shit...
More so than that, it's the notion that the channel is "bottom of the barrel", despite all of the above being true.
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>100 New Posts
>Oh boy, I wonder what we're talking about
>Personal Vendettas, Arguing, Autism
Kay
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>>22929902
>Stop that. Its dumb to pull in the thread.
Is it? It seems pretty directly related to "if you hang out with people and chat with them, you're gonna know who they are for sure" type arguments. I also wonder why you didn't find it dumb when you pulled the same thing in >>22929569.

>You directly declared that mods are unable to not to sink to utter shit if they dare to be any way laxed, and then declared that they are already on the bottom of the barrel.
Really, no. That's some top-shelf paraphrasing there. YOU were the one who said that mods don't hold themselves to any higher standard than anyone else in the room. Since anyone below that standard is booted, that is by definition the bottom.

>That was a response to you blah blah
So you deny responsibility on the basis of, what? I baited you into it?

>>22929917
>I'm not defending my motivations, I'm talking about my methods.
Well, in the course of defending your methods you talk an awful lot about "I do this because", "I always try to", and "because I feel like".

>>22929926
I wouldn't mind. Something tells me that I'd only get one biter out of the two, though.

Gosh, I just don't know what to say sometimes. People tend to take criticism very hard, but don't let you give it to them gentry, they poke at it until the stark truth is just right out there, and then complain that it's hurts and it's overly harsh and mean. Well, fuck! You have to know that if your position is "nah we're not doing anything wrong" that it's asking for specific criticism to come to light!

Why not just accept some friendly communications on the chin, without demanding that they become all sharp and fire-hardended before being shot into your eye?

>>22929949
>Long Tail
Generally, 80% of any given thing is shit compared to the other 20%, which is responsible for the top 80% of content. A board being in the top 20% of boards on 4chan for speed can still mean you are a pretty fucking slow board, too.
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>>22929986
You declared a cycle leading to an objective bottom.
I said there is no cycle.
You said that means we already are there.

You did not define a subjective bottom, only the objective.
Thus, it is an insult.

>I also wonder why you didn't find it dumb when you pulled the same thing in
that was to illustrate how dumb your demand is you nonce.
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>>22929998
Nonce is apparently a super offensive term in Euroland that means "pedophile kiddy diddler" and is the most hurtful and offensive of insults.
Even if to an American it sounds like something a child would say :V

>>22929986
The issue is that it feels like your criticism isn't really founded. I mean, aren't you also not really taking things on the chin?

No one is saying we're not doing anything wrong--and I've said in almost every post we can do better--but it certainly feels like you're saying we're doing everything wrong and nothing right.
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>>22929949
>Long Tail
Nevermind.
>Yes, and...?
And you can and should care and control for that bias. You have the power!

>I'm not.
I've been accused of calling people shit. Not the channel, PEOPLE. That is personal. I don't think you or the other person talking is shit. But since it serves a defensive purpose that phrase gets dragged up with increasing regularity.

>bottom of the barrel
I've explained this already. God. I'm admitting right now I can't keep up with both of you posting.

>people are still acting like we're at each other's throats and everything is shit
Am I one of those people? If not, what do you expect me to do about it? I've said clearly and concisely in places like >>22929290 that it doesn't matter if the mods are or are not doing anything directly objectionable. The plain observable fact is that people aren't feeling welcome. Now, if you don't really care about that, either because they don't matter in your evaluation or they just aren't a priority, just come out and say that instead of denying other people's impressions, which like emotions are subjective and cannot fairly be called wrong.

>>22929998
You are just arguing for the sake of argument now. I'm honestly not up to supplementing your reading comprehension with an interactive diagram right now.

If you were trying to be illustrative, you failed.

>aren't you also not really taking things on the chin?
Am I a moderator of a channel all of a sudden? Is there constructive criticism coming my way that could improve this channel, that I am taking personally? Has someone approached me with some kind of reasonable proposal of middle ground that I've rejected out of hand?
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>>22930008
>Nonce is apparently a super offensive term in Euroland that means "pedophile kiddy diddler" and is the most hurtful and offensive of insults.
>Even if to an American it sounds like something a child would say :V
Hey, "goof" means pedophile kiddy diddler if you're in prison, even though it's literally not even a swear word at all in regular society and sounds just as silly as "nonce".
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>>22930008
>No one is saying we're not doing anything wrong--and I've said in almost every post we can do better--but it certainly feels like you're saying we're doing everything wrong and nothing right.
Well I am far too tired of this to go and ctrl+f anything anyone else has said, but I can say that way, way up near where I started posting on this topic that one of the first things I said was that you guys weren't doing anything personally wrong, per se.

But such things get ignored, ok. If you guys don't think you're doing everything right and I don't think you're doing everything wrong, that's that. All that's left is whether or not newcomers feel welcome in the channel, and we've already hashed that to death: you two think it's fine, and several other people don't.

Sorry this came to such a dissatisfying conclusion, at least for me. Talk to you around the bend, I suppose.
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I'm about to head off to go to work so I figured I might post my profile.
Did some massive overhauling last night, still not 100% done, but it should be by tomorrow.
Comments, compliments and constructive criticism are greatly appreciated.

https://www.f-list.net/c/kate%20verloren
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>>22930063
>Not the channel, PEOPLE.
No, I meant that "bottom of the barrel" comes off as very dismissive, and I don't see where you explained that to be less so.

>You are just arguing for the sake of argument now
Aren't you, though? I mean, I feel at this point the thread really is sort of devolving. And you're as much part of the problem as I am, even as you're complaining that the problem is (mostly) me. And, I mean, I admit that a lot of the problem is me to begin with.

>>22930086
Saying we're not doing anything personally wrong, per se, while also saying that we need to improve and change because we scare people away is... kind of cognitive dissonance. I mean, no one is even ignoring these problems in the first place.
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>>22929896
I'd probably get fired from this job on the first day. Don't think I could keep myself from just stuffing it in.
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>no responses the whole year
>offline for six months
I know they ain't coming back, but still.
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>>22929981
Welcome to the thread!
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>>22929856
nWoD, despite your incredibly narcissistic view on the channel, was fine without you. Discussion happened, your ban was well deserved, and a lot of people wanted Ivan to extend it beyond three months. I especially do now considering you're calling him an asshole for doing his job at the same time as you're lambasting him for not doing his job. This is why he hates moderating the channel. You.
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>>22931632
It helps if you think that it's for the better, which 90% of the time it probably is for that person.
>>22931633
>implying I'm new and not just bitching
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Ivan hated moderating the channel even when I wasn't in it. Discussion doesn't/didn't happen. Several of the primary members of the channel left the channel to join my channel (and I did not ask them to do that).
Also, the last hundred posts or so have been "Rory you run the channel terribly" over and over. I mentioned Ivan not running /tg/nWoD very well in like three posts, two of which were actually talking to Ivan himself. If anything he's getting off easily even as he lets Este and her waifu shitpost.
Several of the people from the channel whose opinions actually matter to me, including at least two of the mods of the channel, also disagreed with the length of my ban. Malice, at least, even petitioned Ivan to let me back through most of my ban.
And the channel's quality has noticeably dropped, something that people from the channel have commented on before.

So... no?
Just, in general, to most of what you said.
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https://www.f-list.net/c/replicant%20kaine

What is it about Kaine that draws in the femboys/traps?
I have trouble getting girls on my dick but the boys come in droves
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>>22932087
So to be clear the ratio is lots of you running the channel terribly, and only you saying Ivan does. But you're so sure he's just a terrible owner and you're great. Sure, that's logical. Right.
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>>22932214
>and only you saying Ivan does
Him, Ivan, me, also mentioned Malice...
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>>22932130
Herm that fucks guys is less common.

>>22932214
>>22932280
Also, Ivan tacitly agreed.
I wouldn't even say he's a terrible owner (terrible would be like Zath, who encourages his channel's shitposting), just that he barely moderates if at all, and barely goes to his own channel.
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>>22927419
You know, it's hilarious but I've got a character named Caeleb Wright who is Samantha Inene when he crossdresses
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>>22933744
Hot
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>>22933944
she earned it
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I'm looking for someone to ERP as Shizune or Misha from Katawa Shoujo for me. Maybe both if you're feeling extra nice. I'm going to leave my e-mail. Please send me something if you're interested. Thanks, /erp/.

[email protected]
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>>22929766
>>have an annoyance of sitting on one alt and needing to bring online the other if you need to drop a /warn

It's trivial to open two tabs of chat simultaneously and just Ctrl-Tab between them.
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>>22929917
>"Rory is why you can't have fun posting /pol/ shit",
How /pol/ can it be, on a site as full of what they call 'degeneracy' as f-list.

>>22919951
>players making characters before I'd even come up with a fully realized pitch or outline, which just kills my mood.

>players engaged too early
>this was a bad thing
What.

>>22919683
>the last time I *did* run a game, a player decided to run a game at the same time slot. Literally during the time she was in my game.

Did anyone screencap that /tg/ post about that DM NTR story?

It was something like, one of his players started DMing in front of him or something after they all got tired of old DM's incompetence.

Might've been followed up with anon shitposting ideas about breaking into old DM's house at night to run their game to really NTR him.
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>>22934989

It's been a while, how have these threads been since leaving /tg/?

Is it even worth posting characters anymore?
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>>22935022
It's been a bad time. New characters being posted is good, though.
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>>22935022
Slow but steady, with occasional flares of shitpost like we see right here.

There's like no play though, mostly just chat about.
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>>22935041
There's more play than you'd think, but most of it tends to happen behind the scenes between already-established partners. Not really enough new blood in here to latch onto and debauch, y'know?
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>>22935035
>>22935041

Well, it's been forever, and I'm not new but...

Red Headed Pirate:
https://www.f-list.net/c/mary%20harvey/

Weird Weird West Sheriff:
https://www.f-list.net/c/bonnie%20holliday

And Weird West, Native flavor:
https://www.f-list.net/c/citlali%20quanah
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>>22935071
Heh. Welcome back.
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>>22935076

It has been waaaaay too long. I'll be back around more, mostly on f-list.
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>>22935118
We'll have to catch up at some point!
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>>22935130

That we will
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>>22935022
The dynamics at play have changed quite a bit, mostly due to IDs and pink board. There's good and bad, and you can always focus on the good to the exclusion of the bad.

>Is it even worth posting characters anymore?
Oh, totally! There are a lot of jaded folk who feel above (or below) that sort of thing nowadays, but you get a ton of exposure and new blood in here.
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>>22934989
>How /pol/ can it be, on a site as full of what they call 'degeneracy' as f-list.
She posts things literally from /po/.

>What.
It's too early when they jump the Goddamned gun and overwhelm me, yeah.
How are you going to make a character for a game when you don't know anything other than a system?

>>22935071
Oh, hey, you.
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>>22935259

Hey you.
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>>22935266
I had a character I wanted to do something with you on, but I forgot. Probably deleted it.

I'm Rory, bee tee dubs.
I don't play anyway, I'm one of the people they were warning you about who just layabouts.
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>>22935259
While hit or miss, some of the things Este posts get a laugh. I'm sorry you're only having fun if people are having SRS NWOD discussion in the room.
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>>22935388
/pol/ is a terrible board, as is everything spawned by it. Rory is hardly the only person with that opinion.
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>>22935401
And not everything she posts is from /pol/. He just doesn't like her.
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>>22935405
And it sounds like you don't like Rory, particularly since (just like all the other fire-and-forgets whose sole contribution is shitposting about Rory) you can't even be bothered to get your facts right. I may not always agree with him, but if "SRS NWOD discussion" is all you think of Rory, you're either not paying attention, or you're being willfully ignorant.

In short, fuck off back to whatever bridge you crawled out from under.
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>>22935388
>>22935405
Este posts things from /pol/ that show a severe lack of understanding of the world, and worse still she often seems to believe or be biased in favour of believing /pol/. Este is the kind of person who would believe the statistic that Trump retweeted from a Neonazi a while back. She actually believes most of the rather spurious, unsubstantiated claims /pol/ and /v/ makes.

Not everything she posts is from /pol/, but she does have that whole "liberals are stupid, I believe cherry picking, Gamergate is totally right" thing going on. She tends to post things that are baity and dumb. I mean, she posted this earlier.

Also, to be fair? Yes, I'd like it if the people in the fucking nWoD channel actually knew about or talked about World of Darkness (preferably the newer edition).
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>>22935548
>Yes, I'd like it if the people in the fucking nWoD channel actually knew about or talked about World of Darkness
I agree. A channel that actually keeps discussion focused on the nominal purpose of the room can be considered a pretty good thing.
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>>22935629
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind OOC discussion. But since my ban the channel has been filled with people who barely even know or play WoD. People keep asking me why I have "nWoD" and "WoD" on ping, but it's mostly to correct people and make sure everyone has the right information.
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>>22935664
A true internet crusader, fighting to make sure everyone knows everything you do.
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>>22920453
>the person from last thread who made a profile wanting to run a lewd Dungeon World game with strangers
That was two threads ago. >>22848465

Also unrelatedly. What is the deal with the :V emoticon. Is it yelling, is it replacing an exclamation mark. I didn't see it until recently.
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>>22935799
:V is a bit ambiguous, but on F-List most of the people I know who use it tend to use it as an expression of snark, or as a shorthand for something similar to "welp."
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>>22935797
Now you're just grasping for straws to shitpost about. Try /b/, I hear they like that kind of thing.
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>>22935799
Imagine the icon as a face.
It' s a fucking retarded face.
Ergo it's an indicator of joking or purposefully saying something dumb.
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>>22935797
>Implying it's wrong to wish people in a channel for a game actually played or had interest in that game

>>22935799
>>22935809
>>22935842
It's this face.
Also, kind of looks like a seagull.
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>tfw your icons are too zoomed in to put santa hats on
True suffering.
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>>22935548
>Gamergate is totally right"

>implying it isn't
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>>22936199
I feel so blessed to not give any shits either way.
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>>22936220
#blessed
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>>22936199
>She slept with men with direct influence of her games success!
No she didn't.
>If she were a guy, you'd be calling for her head! People practically lynch men over lesser "scandals"!
No they don't. Almost every major games company does the same thing, only with money instead of sex. And to more reviewers. People got fired over Kane and Lynch's shitty score and people cared, but, like... nothing happened. Even then, #GG cares more about Kotaku saying games should be more inclusive and trying to censor anyone who says things they don't like than anything related to actual ethics.

Also, Phil Fish didn't cancel Fez 2 because of hate for Zoe Quinn. He canceled Fez 2 because people called him out on being a horrible egotistical jackass. But it was Gamergate that made Quinn special, not white knights or anything like that.

>>22936220
I care because I constantly have to put up with that bullshit that basically says I can either like games as they are now--exclusive and hostile to minorities--or I can fuck off to make my own games (but if I do, fuck me for trying to ruin games). And it's a thing that comes up on /tg/ as well as in video game shits.

Just a few weeks ago on Reddit I was accused of being at the center of some vast SJW conspiracy because I moderate a subreddit (that no one even posts to) where people can ask questions about transgender issues.

I shouldn't have to "not give a shit" when I'm bombarded by things that annoy me. I shouldn't have to put up with it. Which is why cherrypicked bullshit just pisses me the hell off.
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>>22936280
>Just a few weeks ago on Reddit I was accused of being at the center of some vast SJW conspiracy because I moderate a subreddit (that no one even posts to) where people can ask questions about transgender issues.
Is it that chain of "people mod same subreddits ergo they are all connected" thing or some newer one?
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>>22936280
Right, I get where your coming from. But does caring make you have to put up with it any less? I know this is a hot-button topic for you and I don't want to stir anything up, so let's not get too much into this.

I'm not saying you have to not give a shit for anyone else's sake, just your own. Not giving a shit doesn't mean not taking action, it just means not taking damage.
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>>22936280
>video
Oh shit, I remember that one. Cute as fuck.
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>>22935975
Can you post one as an example? I've found ways to festivy others' icons regardless how zoomed in they were.
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>>22936405
Go nuts!
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>>22936280
>cherrypicked bullshit just pisses me the hell off

What a coincidence, so does GG :^)

>>People practically lynch men over lesser "scandals"!
>No they don't.
I'm pretty sure the dialog there is more alluding to outed infidelity scandals like Tiger Woods, not game journalism ones.

> direct influence of her games success!
That one's obviously an overstated case, yeah. Sex is just symptomatic of the utter lack of professional distance or standards in the insular indie games/journalism scene circlejerk, not the cause.

Of course you're completely skipping the point of Quinn's disturbingly manipulative and abusive nature, which is the actual most damning thing there.

The random dialog in a relevant porn pic wasn't really a serious argument though.

> trying to censor anyone who says things they don't like
Weaponized shitposting is censorship?
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>>22936307
>Is it that chain of "people mod same subreddits ergo they are all connected" thing or some newer one?
Yeah, it's that one.

>>22936309
I call shit out because I care. I care and want it to stop, and I want onlookers to know it's wrong. That's why if someone started defending Trump, I'd probably link something like this.
https://youtu.be/jsAR6DhbEyY

It's why when I saw this article (which starts with "yes, seriously") I went to look for any actual evidence and found out that there's no corroboration. Someone called every "small liberal arts college" in the area and found no proof of it. It was false.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/398852/student-banned-areas-campus-resembling-classmates-rapist-katherine-timpf

I looked that up because I care. I would call it out because I care.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

And if there's anything that is objectively evil, it's "things that annoy me".

I can't not care, and since I do care, I'm not going to let things go. I'm going to call them out and try to put a stop to them.

Also, what should the next thread theme be? Christmas? I feel like we've got another week before then. Although two Festive threads wouldn't be too bad, what with Christmas having started in October.

Jews? Should I make a Jew thread? Or would that get the same reaction the Tribal thread got?
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>>22936411
Here you go!

Sometimes, a candy cane is just a candy cane.
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>>22936420
Didn't the Tiger Woods thing basically get forgotten at this point?

>overstated
Try wrong
http://kotaku.com/in-recent-days-ive-been-asked-several-times-about-a-pos-1624707346
And Quinn's "disturbingly manipulative and abusive nature"--which I haven't really seen much of--has nothing to do with ethics in games journalism! That's what it's all about, isn't it, allegedly?

>Weaponized shitposting is censorship?
Complaining that Kotaku is saying things they don't like is just as much censorship as what they accuse "SJWs" of. It's kind of ironic, really.
"Stop censoring our games!"
"Hey, hey! You can't say that thing I don't like!"
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>>22936425
>Yeah, it's that one.
Aw that was months ago, I hoped there was new conspiracy.
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>>22936447
Thank you!
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>>22936425
Well, if you want to ignore what I said, be it on your head.

Also, she looks like a shiksa.
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>>22936447
That is legitimately good.

>>22936454
I would say I don't post enough to get involved in conspiracies, but it's not like I'd posted for weeks before then.

>>22936458
I'm really only making guesses at what you said, because I can't understand you. But "just stop caring" is a thing I can't physically do. And honestly I'm not sure I'd want to.

>She looks like a shiksa
was it the jizz on her tits tha gave it away?
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>>22936450
>at this point
Woods lost sponsorship deals worth loadsamoney over it.

>wrong
Wow that link sure proves there isn't a lack of professional distance and that the scene definitely isn't plagued by playground politics, oh wait no it doesn't.
Look I can post irrelevant links too. http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=nathan_grayson

>nothing to do with ethics in games journalism

The image predates gamergate and is centered on the Literal Internet Supervillain Zoe Quinn that preceded it.
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On the subject of "I don't care":

http://thehardtimes.net/2015/11/17/nothing-really-offends-me-says-walking-embodiment-of-white-privilege/

Also, InCase instead of animated 3D
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>>22936490
gamergate came about within like a week of the hilariously named Quinnspiracy, which even from the start had the pretense of "it's about ethics in games journalism".

Also, did you even read the things linked in that ridiculous conspiracy wankery? They say exactly what the Kotaku article said they would, which does not at all constitute a breach of ethics.

The entire thing is fucking childish tinfoil hat bullshit made to justify hating a woman for sleeping around.
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>>22936485
>Not giving a shit doesn't mean not taking action, it just means not taking damage.
That's the main thing that I wish you had understood.

And forgive me, but going off on a six-paragraph diatribe about how much you care without bothering to first understanding the words the person you are supposedly responding to kind of sounds like the ignorance you are trying to combat.

Fighting words? Sure, maybe. But lashing out at people over essentially nothing gets my guff up.

>>22936492
Oh, bad InCase. That poor pussy suffers from being an afterthought; I know you can do better.

>>22936505
The gif would be better if he looked up, even once.
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>>22936549
>That's the main thing that I wish you had understood.
That isn't how it works. You can't just decide "that doesn't bother me".

That goes back to >>22936492
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>>22936593
>You can't just decide "that doesn't bother me"
Yeah you can, you're just astoundingly bad at it Rory :^)
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>>22936597
Then maybe everyone else should decide to not be bothered by me :^)
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>>22936593
>That isn't how it works.
It is, and it isn't.

It's like saying "you can't help falling in love" as an excuse for cheating. Sure, on some level there is an objective change in you that goes beyond choice, but all the choices that led you into that situation to begin with? Could have been made differently.

There's also such a thing as choosing where to put the emphasis of your actions. You can burn energy hurting about something, or you can burn energy doing about something; the hurting isn't necessary for the hurting. Hurting isn't necessary for caring.

>>22936606
Done, for now.
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>>22936505
Hey, maybe Grayson traded coverage for sex, maybe he didn't. But it certainly had the appearance of impropriety. Which is part of the SPJ's code of ethics, the golden standard for that sort of thing. Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. You'd have to be a moron not to realize interviewing or covering your friends without disclosure wouldn't qualify.

You're supposed to avoid the appearance of impropriety to maintain the public's trust (I know, >implying they had it to begin with). They failed.

>>22936505
>justify hating a woman for sleeping around.

Come on now. If there's an irrational, secret motive at work here then pure tribalism works much better as an explanation, what with "Hey X is a slut, pass it on" never having producing a shitstorm of this magnitude, ever. People hate people they disagree with on the internet and crow about finding any ammo they can use, news at 11.
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As one of the biggest supporters of the movement and a big regular of the 4chan ERPG channel, why are we discussing gamergate?

The whole things pretty much done now anyways. We managed to get every site and their mum to update their ethics policys, plus managed to get the Society of Professional Journalists to look into the whole ethics issue deeper.

Its over now, and frankly I dont want it brought up here. Its just off topic from everything and may even get this thread nuked.

>Implying that I'm not the only one talking about it.
Shit.
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>>22936645
>As one of the biggest supporters of the movement

Are you saying that you're fat?
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>>22936629
>That filename
wut

>>22936634
>Hey, maybe Grayson traded coverage for sex, maybe he didn't.
He literally didn't, though. He never reviewed her game. The coverage he gave that she was involved in actually WAS professional, and barely even mentions her.

>People hate people they disagree with on the internet and crow about finding any ammo they can use, news at 11.
Yes, and the whole Quinnspiracy and gamergate that followed is really just a reason to hate minorities coming into the no gurlz alloud pillow fort, but it started because "that girl is a slut", and so much of it is founded around that.

I mean, that is what started all of this. That's what stated "actually, it's about ethics in games journalism". So that they could brush off criticism that they were just witch hunting because it was a girl using her vagina (instead of a major publisher using their vast money).

>>22936645
>As one of the biggest supporters of the movement
That's because you're habitually misinformed on almost everything. And also, >>22936654 fat.

And I do not think that Gamergate "managed" to do anything but annoy everyone. Nothing has changed except if anything games are more inclusive because no one wants to be associated with the video game version of the WBC.
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>>22936654
Yes.
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>>22936664
>wut
This is a thread about sexual fantasies. Did you forget?
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>>22936645
>Its over now
Too bad all the shitters didn't get the memo.
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>>22936681
Yes, but what is with that filename.
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>>22936664
>WBC
White Bloodcell Count? World Boxing Council? Worker's Board of Compensation?

Throw me a bone, here.
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>>22936710
They want you to get fucked. Or to NTR you. Maybe.
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>>22936664
"coverage" doesn't mean "review," don't strawman, I never once said review.

>actually WAS professional
Covering your friends is not professional by definition. You don't get to say "well it wasn't gushing so it doesn't count." That's not how it works.

>I mean, that is what started all of this.
Okay, first of all, infidelity is a strict subset of promiscuity that is genuinely bad, deceptive, and potentially harmful to partners' health.

There is a difference between slut-shaming and cheater-shaming. Cheater-shaming is the spark that started the fire.

Second, what started something is not the totality of a thing, or even the most important thing about it. Start with cheater-shaming. Add on a helping of forum/reddit censorship and the Streisand effect, a long-standing, open hostility between game journalists and their audience on both sides, selective gaming coverage that gets chosen based on scene gossip badmouthing and blacklisting devs, and closing ranks around a proven abuser and their response to evidence of abuse being "how dare you, that's private shut up."
https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/zoe-quinn-is-an-abuser/
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>>22936713
Westboro Baptist Church. You know, the people who advance gay rights by being an example of what people against gay rights look like.

>>22936719
I'm okay with this.

>>22936725
It's not that it wasn't gushing, it's that it was barely there. Also, the article you link points out that the whole thing was slutshaming. But my problem with this is that a) I'm not sure why it matters whether or not Zoe Quinn is or isn't an abuser, and b) the evidence against her mostly comes from someone who lied about her, exposed her to the world, and encouraged one of the largest and longest lasting internet hate mobs to harass her for... has it been years now? I'm pretty sure it has been.

Even then, both Quinn and Gjoni are kind of examples of why America needs better mental health care. The whole thing doesn't at all seem one sided.

Like, I'm not even a "Zoe Quinn supporter"--although I did read her article on Cracked and some of kept vaguely abreast of some of the early incidents, and she seemed a far cry from the bullshit--but the whole fucking thing is stupid as shit, and if she was a man this would not be happening. If Zoe Quinn were a man, Gamergate would never have happened.
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>>22936744
>Westboro Baptist Church
lol OH right I know about those fuckers.

and who or what is the video gaming version of the WBC that no one wants to be associated with?

>your gif
Oh I don't like that one. Something about the something something.
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>>22936744
> lied about her, exposed her to the world, and encouraged one of the largest and longest lasting internet hate mobs to harass her

No he didn't. Now you're just spewing bullshit. I say this unironically, having been dealt a shit hand, Gjoni did nothing wrong.

>I'm not sure why it matters

I don't know, take your pick for what you care about. Feminist principles?
>activist for destigmatizing mental health
>gaslight partner and weaponize stigma of mental health to discredit abuse victim

Journalistic double standards?
>strangers on the internet are mean to each other: coverage
>allegation that Brad Wardell is a sexual harasser: coverage
>allegation/evidence of game dev sexually harassing Wolf Wozniak and abusing boyfriend: Fucking Silence
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What, still?

Like I'd actually really love to discuss this with the two of you but I dont want to encourage this derailment further.
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>>22936766
Post profile.
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>>22936771
https://www.f-list.net/c/bunchacrunch/
feels like ages since I updated this.

I really need to update this.
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>>22936760
Gamergate.

>>22936762
>No he didn't.
He said she slept with people to get reviews. She didn't. The entire thing is he said, she said.
>Did nothing wrong
Even if he was telling the truth about literally everything and Zoe was a horrible person siccing the internet on someone is the epitome of doing the wrong thing. In almost no situation is that justified.

I'm also still not sure why you're focusing so hard on the Zoe Quinn part as if it would somehow bring to light some hypocrisy of mine.

>>22936771
It's Bunchacrunch.
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>>22936774
An event is the video gaming version of an organisation? You've lost me, babe.
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>>22936780
Gamergate:Video Game Inclusivity::WBC:gay rights
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>>22936783
Sorry, I'm just a stickler for phrasing. I'm sure you can relate.
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>>22936766
I have no idea why people are talking about this here.
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>>22936774
>He said she slept with people to get reviews.
No he didn't.

> siccing the internet on someone
If he wanted to "sic the internet" on them he could have done some actual slut-shaming or exposed worse private details than "they lied to and gaslighted me for months; Zoe Quinn is a liar, do not trust what she says."

>as if it would somehow bring to light some hypocrisy of mine.
That never once crossed my mind? You're just factually wrong on that.

I maen gamergate at large prefers to push itself to focus more on lazy lack of fact checking and lack of proper disclosure, but the by now practically forgotten Quinn issue is legitimately much scarier than just bad journalism.

http://www.broteampill.com/forums/index.php?topic=4721.0
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>>22936823
>No he didn't.
That is literally the thing that started "ethics in games journalism".

>If he wanted to "sic the internet" on them he could have done some actual slut-shaming or exposed worse private details
Except he did. Have you not read the Zoe Post?

>I maen gamergate at large prefers to push itself to focus more on lazy lack of fact checking and lack of proper disclosure
And yet some of the main gamergate voices and communities talk about how they want politics kept out of games, i.e. minority characters and things like that. They complain about "censorship" when people complain about archaic portrayals and sexism.
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>>22936831
Have YOU?

Please quote the part where he calls his ex a slut, or says that they traded sex for reviews.

And yes, the "I want nopolitics" is a weak-ass meme that's rather popular in GG communities, that we can agree on.
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>>22936840
Most people would consider putting someone's sexual history on the internet calling her a slut. Like, the entire thing is super abusive in and of itself.

Meanwhile, almost all gamergate rhetoric I've been apprised of has been more about Kotaku saying mean things about them.

Hell, people broke away from 4chan over this shit because they felt it was too SJW.
FUCKING 4CHAN.
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>>22936859
>people broke off from 4chan
After heavy moderation crackdowns which destroyed /pol/ and /v/ for a month.
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>>22929400
Your room does not have an open feel to it. Your moderator team all comes off as incredibly authoritarian.
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>>22936870
Nothing of value is lost.

>>22936889
Instead of just going "lolwut", I'm going to ask why you think that.
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>>22936889
Would you prefer an authoritarian rule or a complete shitshow?
>>22936914
Your bias is showing.
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>why America needs better mental health care
That doesn't help when the potential patient refuses to seek treatment. As in TZP.

>>22936859
So, you haven't read it, or did you Ctrl-F and confirm he never alleged anything like that.

>someone's sexual history
Describing deception over the course of one relationship is hardly a person's entire "history".

So Tiger Woods got slut shamed too? By the press no less, not some obscure blog. Saying that "X is a serial liar and a cheating asshole" is equivalent to slut shaming is using one loose-ass definition of the term. There's a difference between cheating and the good, honest sluttitude we all enjoy.

>Like, the entire thing is super abusive in and of itself.

>posting evidence of abuse is abusing your abuser
Clearly they should never speak out about it then, or else people might be mean to their abuser. Yeah that's not silencing for victims at all.

Like, have you once entertained the idea that the motives he had for posting were what he actually said they were, and not the nefarious secret motive you've ascribed to him based on the assumption that bad things followed, so it must have been All According to Keikaku?

If his goal was "revenge" he could have said much worse things that were uncovered later that are completely irrelevant, butt hat would have been easy slut-shaming ammo to use. Their absence in his posts is incredibly telling.
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>>22936914
Every one of your team is very loud about your opinions, and generally coming from things from an "I'm always right" perspective. I've seen multiple conversations shut down because a moderator just decided that even civil discussions of issues they don't like are being discussed. It's a large part of why I left.
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>>22936922
It isn't authoritarian enough to avoid the shitshowing.
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>>22936946
Mods only shut down /pol/ shitters.
Thus
>It's a large part of why I left.
Nothing of value was lost.
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>>22936950
Its been worse, but yeah its still trash.
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>>22936940
I didn't say entire.
And as far as I'm aware, Tiger Woods didn't have the internet hate mob stirred up around him by an ex.

>Clearly they should never speak out about it then, or else people might be mean to their abuser.
I feel like you're failing to understand the basic concept of "he said/she said", and how a giant hateful ranting post by someone is not "evidence", and that even if it is evidence, a wordpress blog and the internet hate mob is not... like... a thing people should do?
Zoe had a restraining order against him, right? So at this point he's basically trying to ruin her life, or at the very least get validation. I doubt he expected it to blow up so much, but it wasn't the kind of thing that fine upstanding citizens do. It was not "doing nothing wrong" as you claimed.

I'm also not ascribing him nefarious secret motives. He was pissed off and ranted about his ex on the internet, and not even somewhere private like most people do. That's a shitty fucking thing to do. I mean, it got shared pretty much everywhere. I'm not even sure how that happened, but I'm guessing he had something to do with that.

>>22936946
Who are you that you left?
Because as >>22936954 says, we really only shut down "/pol/ shitters". And even then, there have been several civil discussions that don't get shut down. I encourage civil discussions, and even tell other members of the mod team not to jump the gun when a topic isn't causing trouble.

>>22936950
>>22936960
Again, who are you? Actually voice your concerns instead of going "and that's why I left".
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>>22936954
I actually just lurked, because I wanted to get a feel for things. You guys were assholes, so I left without saying much.

And this is the problem with you guys. If someone goes against your grain, they're /pol/. And if they're /pol/, they did not belong here in the first place. You've baked in a way to validate your behavior and say that you're in the right.
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>>22936968
>say who you are and why you left
I'm Traveller on the phone, and I'm still around silly. Like, the atmosphere has gotten better over time, but its still not exactly the most friendly one around.
>inb4 but you don't talk
I lurk hard, in several rooms. We're argumentative, I dunno how the /tg/ chats are where your baggage comes from, but random f-list rooms are pretty chill on the whole and were pretty aggro.
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>>22936971
Well then give us some actual examples. What was your problem?

The only people we've shut down have been people saying shitty, offensive, hateful things.

Our ban list is a people who spouted memes and nothing else, someone who literally told the black moderator that she's a IRL racist because blacks are the most violent race, and someone who slandered me across two channels and needed to have a moderator deal with them. Two of said people are now banned from F-list for being troll accounts.

All of the arguments we've shut down are from people saying very uneducated things about minorities, some of which are members of the channel.

Even then, actual arguments rarely happen. Not serious ones, at least.

So, yes, unless you can give an actual account of what you felt we did wrong, there's not much we can do other than point out that the vast majority of what happens is not authoritarian.
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>>22936971
>yet another fire-and-forget ID whose sole thread contribution is and will be shitposting about Rory
I'm going back to sleep, this shit ain't worth waking up to.
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>>22937200
>>22937200
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>>22936968
>>22936968
>I'm also not ascribing him nefarious secret motives. He was pissed off
That's, that's not even what he said his motive was!

Do you make a habit of just saying things with literally zero basis but your own pre-assumptions?

And you keep acting like strangers being mean on the internet is somehow his fault for saying something that people decided to get mad over.

> ranting post by someone is not "evidence",

Giant fucking Facebook logs are. That have been seen by a goddamn journalist, in real life, in Boston, in a way that could not possibly be forged.

>So at this point he's basically trying to ruin her life,
no he fucking isn't. What the fuck? How does that even logically follow? You're just making a bunch of assertions with no relation to anything.
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>>22937077
Wait, what are people supposed to do, NOT give feedback when asked?
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