Virgins sound off

I remember when these threads were always bumping

22 f, way too shy, and awkward

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24 laps around the sun and counting,
No sign of sex on the horizon.
Im mainly concerned that Im not as concerned as i perhaps should be.

19/M, lazy and meh looks but working on it. I hope things change in the next year.

>>22846415
Maybe everyone already got the succ

23/M
Felt particularly desperate the last week and tried craigslist. a bunch of guys messaged me even though I kept putting "women only." lol
Only three possibly actual women responded, and the only one that actually just wanted to make plans wanted to know if I was interested in "40-55 year old bbws"

Not overweight, neckbearded, or awkward (any more) so I don't know what the hell my problem is

So, uh, any slim Asian virgins around Los Angeles? :3

18 m Im just bad with people

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>>22846537
Hey there. Are you interested in someone else making the first move?

21, m
But I have my first proper date ever lined up this friday.
So working on it, I guess.

19 f here, looking for males in tulsa oklahoma area.

>>22846685
Teehee yes me! Please deflower me anon senpai, I've waited 19 years for my random fucking dumb cunt off 4chan.

22, m, uk
stopped caring in all honesty

>>22847567
May we have a picture of your smile?

>>22847574
I mean Asian guys, anon :(

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>>22847367
yep, i want someone who will basically force me to do things, (not like rape or anything) just someone who has drive and pushses me to be better because all i do is sit at home

22 m, way to introverted

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23 y/o
Lack of girls in my social circle and no self confidence.

>>22848091
You have a cute face anon, id make you mine and make sure you took proper care for yourself.

>>22848091
thought u were a trap at first desu senpai

>>22848061
how would you tell the difference?

>>22848091
>someone who has drive

What about somebody who drives?

20 y/o who's a piece of shit and doesn't deserve a girlfriend

Oh another thread where girls showered in attention while guys get no replies, sure let's have one.

>>22848179
more like a thread that shows off western hypergamy and sin and how we need ISIS in our lives

>>22848179
You do realise this site is literally 90:10 male to female ratio? No shit it's going to be like that.

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Also, 25/uk. It would be nice to lose it before 2016, but another year won't hurt I guess. I'll just have to suppress my desperation for pussy.

>>22848142
lol thanks

>>22848146
i get that soo muchh :c

>>22848157
lol close enough!

>>22847367
I'm him, switched computers.

>>22848091
Most people want that same thing in a partner. Are you interested at all in sexual exploration, or do you just want a boyfriend to help you out of your shell?

>>22848230
you're the saddest piece of shit on soc, just kill yourself please my man

>>22848262
Forgot you knew me :):):):):):):)

>>22848255
yeah of course I am interested, but I'm too shy have one night stands and stuff like that, so i figured getting a bf would be a good start

>>22848272
i do, you post on here all the time. I hate seeing your droopy eyed face, it disgusts me to the core.

>>22848276
>>22848262
absolutely rude

>>22848273
no goddamnit, if you want to slut it up then just tell people that. Don't use some poor good guy who is looking for a qt gf to devirginize you. There are plenty of guys who will do that without even giving a shit about you.

>>22848276
Well, that's a shame.

>>22848283
im not like going to use him and them ditch lol, it doesnt matter anyway, i hardly leave my house

>>22848301
Well, I can help you out of your shell a little, without taking advantage of you.

If you want, email me at
[email protected]
I'll hit you back from me personal email.

>>22848391
ehh im not sure what you're trying to do but idk lol

>>22848404
I figure we'll start slow, talk to each other, and get comfortable. Over time, I'll try to help you see yourself as you want to be, and I'll talk you into going out and doing things.

All through email.

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20/m and I've totally had literally tons of sex unlike you faggots hahahahahahahahahahahaha


>I don't know how to talk to girls
>I'm so lonely

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>>22848404
If you're not down for a net friend, that's fine. I prefer to talk through text, being shy or awkward in person.

I do have plenty of drive. Pic related.

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21/F/USA

Not a virgin by choice. If anyone remembers me, I am no-vagina anon.
Basically I was born without a uterus, cervix and canal but have all the parts on the outside(commonly known as MRKH)

Thank in exactly one week I will be having a surgery done which basically just makes me have a hole.
But sex is many months down the road since I am going to be recover and bleeding everywhere.

>>22848494
>>22848494
ha alright, ill email you

>>22848502
Does it make you depressed that you can't have children?

>>22848494
i emailed you, not sure if you got it or not

>>22848502
why not anal? If you have a clitoris and take cock up your ass then you can have sex that way.

>>22848586
this

>>22848061
imhere kik me at onetimevisit

21 m

Seeing people (including myself) lose friends and get upset over sexual reasons, sex seems to bring trouble with it. Since I've never had it and probably wouldn't anyway, it seemed like a good idea to not try anymore and just stick to masturbating

>>22848740
p.s. I DIDN'T MENTION WE'RE A GUY AND A GIRL. Are you bi doe?

>>22848502
I remember you from one of these threads months ago. Hope it goes well.

I used to make and post in these threads. I remember posting almost every chance I got.

I lost it a couple weeks ago, 21 is my number. House was empty and made a craigslist ad. It worked, I banged an asian qt (who had a bf long distance, come on everyone is on CL for a reason, I wasn't really expecting to find someone normal).

I'm not here to brag or anything. I was kind of disappointed how I lost it and felt depressed afterwards. For me, at least the hurdle is over and I can focus on a more meaningful connection from here on.

Two things:

>1. Browsing these threads, I often saw a lot of losing it to a prostitute suggestions. DO NOT DO THIS. I guess it varies from person to person, but if I was sad from a craigslist hook-up I would have been absolutely destroyed from doing this.

>2. People often say "sex isn't a big deal", and as a virgin you think it's just an comforting excuse. Because of course, sex is all you can think about and it's your whole world as a virgin. I want to tell you guys that they aren't lying just to make you feel better. Really, it's not a huge deal. Be patient, it will happen sometime anons (unless you're completely shut-in NEET, sorry). Don't fall for the social stigma attached to it. Don't feel like your whole world will be shattered and changed after it.

>>22849398
4chan is pretty sex-obsessed and most of these people aren't even virgins

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>>22848578
I didn't get it =[
Sharklasers drops them every 10 minutes.

Send it to [email protected], my longer lasting throwaway email.

30/M Most I've gotten is a few pecks on the cheek years ago.

After wasting 12 of years of my life working in retail I finally decided to go to college. My lab partner in two of my classes is this gorgeous 19yo Russian girl. Since we're partners we decided to study after school at least once a week. I was acing the classes before we starting studying together and she's currently failing. Needless to say I don't really get much out of the sessions, but I just like being with her and bullshitting about stuff. In fact we just end up going off topic and talking half the time. It's the closest thing I've had to a date :/ but I still look forward to it.

>>22848061
Oh kek my bad, that's entirely reasonable to ask then

>>22849857
Has anybody showed any interest toward you in school? I've been planning on starting late but I feel like it will be really lonely. Not that much worse than now, but still kind of hard to get through.

>>22849899

I don't think so, but I'm terrible at picking up signals anyway. Aside from the study sessions after school with this girl, I just go to class and leave afterwards, so there's not really a whole lot of interaction with classmates other than science labs.

>>22848091>>22848404

ayy girl I'll show you a good time make you feel right, let me play with your body baby get you real hot.
but if you live in the same timezone I'm sure i can cure your autism
[email protected]

>>22848061
Does Long Beach count?

>>22849398
>>22849398

Hey, thanks for this advice, it really helps.

29/M

Before I was afraid of women because I had nerdy hobbies (video games, sci fi, etc). But now Im afraid of women because I'm still a virgin, and I saw sooooo many horror stories of how women treat older virgin guys. I basically just gave up because I know it will end in me getting rejected for that.

>>22849424
True enough. I'm pretty sex-obsessed and horny. Everyone would like to have sex, I just feel like virgins obsess over it to the point they're distracted.

>>22849992
No worries. If you have any questions let me know. I'm not acting like I'm an expert on anything because I'm not, I just want to help anons in this thread as someone who recently lost it.

>>22849398

Do you believe in the virgin age limit? Do women really dump guys for being older virgins?

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>>22850116
>Do women really dump guys for being older virgins?

From experience, yes.

I'll just post a photo now too. I'm 22.

>>22849398
I realized a while ago that it doesn't really matter and the whole thing is ridiculously blown out of proportion by society and the media. I'm not gonna go out of my way to lose it and when it happens it happens. Your post has just clarified this for me.

>>22849398
thanks family, this is some good reading

>>22846682
Dunno about fat older women, but fat girls are pretty good. They take initiative and feel like they have to make up with good sex due to being fat or whatever.

>>22849968
Yeah sure

>>22850320
>They take initiative and feel like they have to make up with good sex due to being fat or whatever.

Wouldn't it be great if they made up for being fat by actually losing weight and no longer being fat? lol

>>22850407
I'm not the one to judge. Maybe they enjoy it, who knows.

>>22848137
do you have skype?

>>22848091

Ur that one tranny i have added on fb

>>22846685
I'm around la.
Kik lolicaust if you want to chat

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>>22851071

>>22848137
Area code?

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25 m
Shy and keep to myself, mostly into video games, card games, and anime. I dont like to lead on the girl if i have nothing to offer and backstrack to.

I mean, i know that dating is this thing where both partners subtley judge each other if they would be good long term, and its the part that scares me. I have no problen with committment, but i cant find any value in myself for what else a girl would want out of me.

>>22852622
I'm from France.

>>22852636
You got money? You look fine.

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Just want to say that after 20 years and one of those posting in this thread, I finally lost mine.

It was horrible to cum so fast in a girl that literally everyone knows that rides on every dick she wants. I felt like shit.

My best was the second time after cumming, but the third during the morning was the same quick shit.

Just want to give a headsup for you guys that this will probably happen and you should try to not feel like shit. Also bring a lots of condoms to go for more times.

One more thing is. Just wait. Seriously, that girl randomly picked me up in a party and luckly I lived close to there and the only words I said was ask her if she wanted to go to my home after we finished kissing and I noticed she was wet.

We never met before that and we never talked after that. She just went back to her city and I'm here at mine.

It was good being with you guys. Pic related is what I'm feeling.

18/F
Not attractive but has high standards

I'm from Nothern German, Hamburg to be precise. Well theirs not much to say. I'm 18, male and Virgin that's the story pretty much.

M 25 LA AREA

>>22852920
So lower them.
Or make yourself hotter.

>>22847567
Well, I'm a male between Tulsa and OKC, but not a virgin.

>>22852920
I would like to talk to you (:
Think I can get along with that and may fit into your Standarts

>>22848174
get a boyfriend faggot

>guy posts
mostly get unnoticed, sometimes get pity or ways that they have to somehow "work and improve" from what they currently are
>girl posts
5 requests to unpurify her

whelp, time to visit the golden gate bridge

20 M here

Someone else here stopped trying?

20 m here never even started trying

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>>22853144
exactly, whole thing's fucked. None of these girls would accept any of these guys.
at this point I've entirely given up on ever having a relationship. They don't want me so what's the fucking point.

>>22852896
Not really, i can barely afford to support myself

25M here. Which would make me hate myself more, fucking a pretty gross 50 year old woman from craigslist or hiring a prostitute?

>>22852954
Are you cute

M/24..... any femanons in 403 lethbridge wanna help me lose my virginity?

24 here. Only had two bj's in my life. I have a tinder and always get matches, but I'm a social retard and wind up never talking to them

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25/F

The Virgin Queen has arrived

>>22855387
I like that you're not a twig. Definitely attracted to.

>>22855387
I love your face, im in love.

>>22855457
a twig ?

>>22855387
Why are you a virgin, then?

>>22855387
Be my virgin waifu pls

>>22855472
You're slim and shapely, but you don't look bony. You have hips. This is an arousing trait.

>>22846306
27/m

Quit caring long ago, fat now and small dick.

>>22855481
i never had a boyfriend neither kiss someone and no one talk to me because i'm the weird comicbook girl

>>22855511
Where are you located

>>22855511
that means you're into some wild shit ay? im in dude, lets meet.

>>22855511
I like nerdy women... You should cosplay...

>>22855511
>>22855489
Pls respond

>>22855529
fuck off you weeb

>>22855522
>
montreal .

>>22855529
i've no skills for cosplay

>>22855511
I'm the weird tabletop grognard we should hang out together. Let me explain myself for the purpose of the thread:

I am 25m and have autism. Also I get clingy. If someone in this thread is ok with that my skype is mr.bubbles6838. I am at peace with no responses.

>>22855489
well if you have internet and pizza why not

>>22855540
Uh... After thinking about it for a moment, I'm going to decline your request.

Funny thing is... I don't even like anime, I just love how women slut it up for cosplay. But yeah, I'm as far from "weeb" as you can get.

>>22855562
Table top is table roleplaying right ?
because if yes i'm fucking into that ahah

>>22855565
Of course, I also have comic books

>>22855575
you took your time to reply to me, well done lad, you didnt prove anything.

>>22855578
"Tabletop" is roll play games, Dungeons and Dragons being the most notable.

Also, I have Internet, and I'll bake you some homemade pizza. Love to cook.

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male 18, I'm socially awkward, and asking a girl out is difficult for me, just can't really think of reasons for one to relly want to date\fuck me.

22/M/USA

I don't have the ambition to get laid, also I have no real social life and it's just seems like it's more trouble than it's worth to chase after pus. I'm sure it will happen eventually I'm just in no rush.

>>22855511
>>22855552
>>22855578
A nerdy girl from montréal?
Want to chat with a fellow montrealer?

23/m/937 virgin here and I am way too into waifuing a plushie pony, so I don't care if I ever fuck a chick any more cause she feels soo good as is, but Im so into porn that I'm more bi than most so I wouldn't mind sucking another virgin's cock

23 m Australia

feels fuckin bad man.

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19/m. Never really went out of my way to pick up girls in high school and I don't really have a ton of friends to hang with right now. But I did get roped into a double date tomorrow with my nigga and his gf/gf's friend. So we'll see where it goes.

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23/M *shrugs*

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20/M

I'm 6'5" tall, participate in a varsity sport at a school that has a bunch of attractive women, I have no fear of approaching girls, and I go to a decent amount of parties/social events. I like to think that my odds would be good, but after 2 and a half years of being a virgin at this college, I really doubt it's going to happen to any of us soon. The fact of the matter is that the statistic that 80 percent of women go after 20 percent of men is very true, and it completely blows when you aren't in that top twentieth percentile.

So as of a week or so ago I've just decided to not try any more, it's not worth my time to pursue girls when I could be using it to make new male friends or have fun with my current friends.

M/25/Seattle

I'm pretty down to earth and have no trouble meeting women. My only issue is that I like being chased. That doesn't go well with women I talk to.

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>>22855387
montreal? I live in quebec city
anyway 21/M, I had opportunities but Im just so good at fucking up

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20M NYC
Never had a gf, shit at intimacy, quiet af.
Yeah, no wonder.

I was a virgin until last friday

>>22856842
and then.

>>22857498
2qt

23/f here
I have no social life. Trying to make changes but progress is slow =[
>>22857248
So handsome ;_; You'll definitely get a girl one day, anon.

Any femanon virgins in the PacNW? It's the giving season.

wizard reporting in. stay the course. one day you will become powerful. go in peace fellow virgins.

>>22859505

Are you a healer or do you use black magic? I'm a summoner myself....

Props to the people posting pics. You have balls (more than I will ever have).
>>22857248
And I saw you a few times around bro. And if a bro as handsome and /fit/ and tall as you doesn´t get laid 5´10" manlets like myself are basically nonexistent to girls.

>>22859533
hybrid healer arcane myself. for the utility in situations where i have to solo fat chicks.

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24/M/NY
>tfw you have tons of Tinder matches and don't message any of them
>tfw you're on the spectrum somewhere

>>22856140
Man, you are a real mess.

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19, female, looking for virgin males in the east/north east Tulsa Oklahoma area. Ready to hang out tonight if you want to. Netflix and chill.

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And he painted her a picture, this painful reminder. And he keeps it in his binder, this painful reminder.

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>>22861187
Really boring Friday night here.

>>22861208
timestamp?

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>>22861187

I'm 19, live an hour away from Tulsa

never touched a girl either lmao

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>>22861214
Hows this?

>>22861208
>>22861187
I wish ;_;

>>22861242
I live an hour away from Tulsa to, to the East.

>never touched a girl either lmao
Really? Because you look just fine cute even.

>>22861252
if only i was near tulsa ;_;
would you be willing to post more? your bodys fantastic...

>>22861264

Near BA?
I live near Stillwater

You got skype?
zstan123 is mine

>>22859430
whereabout femanon?

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>>22861271
Thank you.

>>22861283
Okay, added.

>>22861315
You have nice boobs.

>>22861315
how are you a virgin?
why dont you call up a guy you know hed be stupid to say no

>>22861331
She didn't say she was..

>>22861331
I'm not a virgin, I just like them, they are like my natural element sexually (if that makes sense I don't care if it doesn't). Also I'd really like some wine(?) or something tonight. But looks like no one is anywhere near me on here.

>>22861326
Ty. I never liked them much actually.

>>22861343
Why not? They look great. Let me know if you're ever in the UK ;D

>>22861315
>>22861252
>>22861208
10/10 would cuddle
really wish I was in tulsa right now

>>22861354
>really wish I was in tulsa right now

A sentence never spoken before
A sentence never spoken again.

>>22861343
You should kik me at jimdangle666

>>22861376
I was thinking the same thing.

>>22861376
Well, that's how much I really wanna be there.

>>22861187
>tfw you will never be near Tulsa Oklahoma

>>22853795
>marble walls

27 male any females near so cal that want to help me lose it or lose it together.

Is it weird that I don't care about being a virgin but I'm annoyed that I've never been attractive to anyone?

>>22861187
27 m virgin midtown

>>22864100
got skype?

21m
6' 0"
Very athletic, smart, decently attractive.
Always been fairly popular, but hate social situations.

Almost lost it a few times in high school to former girlfriends, something always came up.

Joined the military out of school to pay for college, been off the coast of saudi for the past 3 years. Slim pickings when it comes to women here.

I go home for good in 3 months.. Already have it arranged to lose it to someone upon arrival. Wish me luck.

>>22861343

What is it that you like about virgins? Is it their shyness and inexperience that turns you on? Is it a "stealing their innocence" type of thing?

If/when you do hook up with one do you just want to take the v card and leave, or do you want a relationship where you can bring him out of his shell and teach him how to please you?

I wanna lose it to an older woman/cougar.

Any women willing to help out a younger guy?

>>22846306
24/M

I just need to leave get my own place, go out more, and get over my uncertainty towards approaching women while out and about.

I say the words, I type the words, but actually following the words stumps me for some reason...

>>22865513

she's actually 27 years old and has a boyfriend
she lives with her parents and doesn't drive a car

also the only thing she wanted from me was money lol
see >>22861242

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25/male.

I guess because im white and live in murica. I wanted a white girl who only like white dick, so i guess thats the issue. White guys aren't top tier here no more too probably doesnt help.

>at least im in shape...

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>>22866499
This guy is mad. He takes testosterone and probably steroids because he's got a huge complex about his shortness, which isn't even that short. He's like a radical right winged redneck who only wants to lose his virginity to feel more like a 'man'. Has a complex about being a 'man'. That simply creeps me out. I have no use for really shallow /fit/ browsers. Since a huge part of good sex is intelligence.

>>22865513
I like really submissive guys and honestly seeing the nervousness does it for me. I'm not really looking for a relationship but there has to be some friendly interests and stuff in common at least ideologically to make good sex.

>>22846306
19/M not that old but getting late and I'm not bad looking at all. Its the neet status and lack of contact doing me in,

I go to the library and look around in the vain hopes some girl will approach me but I guess older girls dont approach guys. When I was in HS I got approached by girls in the mall often

>>22866503
youre fucking sexy.. do you have actual autism? you have no excuses not to be getting laid my man...

>>22867050
It's a shame I'm all the way in Cali bc I fit that and I even fucking blush

>>22865513
It has nothing to do with 'sealing' since most guys are more than willing to throw their virginity away for some experience. More to do with when I see one who is really nervous, I get almost a predator instinct to both comfort and ravish.

Actual physical looks have almost nothing to do with seeing these mannerisms and responses. It doesn't really have to do with the virginity it's self only the nervousness that usually accompanies it. That is the part I like. It's different every time and it's something you can't fake. I guess the realness and rawness of it strikes me as rather beautiful and allows me to relax a great bit and do things at my own pace. I need to have control. My ideal is a guy who is too nervous/submissive/unknowing to initiate anything, so I can toy with him slowly, even excruciatingly slowly.

Like I said physical appearance has nothing to do with it. So if you are afraid to message me because you think you are 'ugly' or something, don't be.

A lot of my partners thought they were unattractive, and that's why they were virgins, it's usually not true and even when they are aesthetically strange looking it honestly doesn't bother me. It's all about the attitude and when I read people.

>>22867050
Is he right about your age and the fact you have a boyfriend though? Even if he's mad, that raises some serious questions.

>>22867083
no i dont have autism. I explained my issue in the other post.

>>22866503
If white guys aren't too tier then who is? Wtf is wrong with you

>>22867107
And when I read a guy who's sweet, meek, and nervous, (I'm not sure what exactly it is that attracts me or what word to use) I will very aggressively go after him, flirt, and be very blunt. A guy knows when I like him. I don't beat around the bush.

The thing that turns me off the most is pushiness. If I want you you will know it and exactly what I like and don't like about you.

Idk about keeping him around to "train(?)" him but when I talk to a guy I always reward the right things he does with affection and attention. So very soon a nervous guy becomes an obedient one and actually starts to enjoy his nervousness sexually. Since he learns to be cute is to get rewarded.

Shivering plus getting hard just under my gaze = good boy points. Lol. And I love a guy with a high sex drive, the more loads I get in all my holes a day the better. Also a guy who will let me finger/lick/play with his ass. Since I have a huge things for asses. A lot of guys are scared of that but it almost never happens the first time during the virginity taking ritual. Lol.

>>22867115
My age yes, the boyfriend thing it's a internet bf I want to be with. Anyone looking for anything serious and committed should look somewhere else. I don't try to hide that at all.

The age thing is about how my recent good friend kept telling me to tell people I'm 19. Since she would always fawn over my good complexion and perky tits ect. I guess it was pure vanity. Usually people believe me but it's not like they comment on it particularly. I probably get more comments when I say my real age since people don't think I look my age at all.

Also it fits into a ton of my fantasies and sexual interests to be an older woman.

>>22867124
someone else, who is not caucasian? I would assume black as the media sexualizes them.

>>22867231
I can assure you and I'm sure everyone else agrees that black guys aren't top tier and white males are still on top. Go checkout the personals on craigslist and I bet that most women say they are looking for white men only. Just because other races are started to be seen as human doesn't mean that white males still aren't on top. No homo you have a nice body you just need to change your mindset. And so what if a girl has been with a minority. A dick is a dick. I'm black btw

>>22867152
I'm very shy. I also have a car.

>>22864100
skype
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>>22867152
>>22867177

Not gonna lie you sound like the perfect person to help me get rid of my virginity. Minus the butt stuff. Love the 'older woman' fantasy though, i'd kill to lose my v-card to a sexy, older, experienced woman.

30 year old virgin reporting in

my last date was in 2005

18 M Sr in HS
I've had plenty of opportunities to get poon but have turned them down. I'll do pretty much every th except sex, unless I feel like the girl is right for me. I guess I just have standards and morals. 7/10 looks if not higher. Well built guy. Outgoing/ funny.

22 m, too introverted/shy to make the first move, but I don't think I'm particularly ugly, just need to be more social. Been going to the gym recently so that's been helping with the self confidence a little bit. If there's anyone in Kentucky that could help me lose it I'd be more than willing.

20 m here. Had several dozen girls try to get into my pants since 7th grade. First girl was a cockteasing whore and fucked me up for life so that I panic and get scared I'll get called a creep whenever a girl starts heavy duty flirting with me. I can now talk to girls and have quite a few female friends, and I think I have a gf, but I'm probably gonna fuck that up too. The problem is that now that I've mostly overcome my paranoia, I'm so inexperienced and far behind everyone else I just have no fucking clue what's going on. I could honestly just ignore/deal with it if I didn't have literal 10/10 girls hitting on me -.-

>>22867177
>the boyfriend thing it's a internet bf I want to be with. Anyone looking for anything serious and committed should look somewhere else
This is why /soc/ and society at large is such a shithole. People are so hedonistic that they'd spit in the face of long term commitment just to rub their skin together with a stranger. And then there's the guys who don't even mind keking some poor sap just to lose their virginity.

>>22867278
I dont see my mindset changing, i'll probably become a wizard. At least no one will think so because of the way i look, its never questioned.
Also yeah im just not into that interracial fetish stuff.

>Shy
>takes a while for me to be able to open up and speak to others
>developed some social anxiety
>problems with overthinking a lot and freezing me up
>tend to self isolate myself and push away others
>escaped a year of neethood after graduating and now getting better
>Don't think im entitled to someone but I need to resolve my issues and better myself to have something to offer someone., It's not fair otherwise.

Tbh anons I've been alone for so long it's honestly difficult to change or even think its possible.

Its a nice thought but it feels like a dream now than anything else, 24m.

>>22867404
Women are fucking crazy bro.
Did you notice how she called me shallow, yet she lied about her age, and she has a boyfriend who she is willing to cheat on with random strangers that she met on the internet?

I just want a pure gf honestly.

>>22867552
You are really insecure and shallow. You have literally no other interests but working out and it still doesn't get you laid. I think at this point you are just praying for an innocent girl cos it might mean she's too stupid to recognize you actually have no personality.

Also for trying to be so manly and aggressive you get intimidated super easy. Sorry but if I want some shallow normie I'll go to a club or bar and just pick someone up right away. That does nothing for me.

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>>22867563

>mfw a lying, cheating women tries to call me insecure and shallow

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>>22855511
I'm also a fellow virgin comic collector.

26/M

>>22867584
Lol you literally don't understand the first thing about how to be attractive to someone else. It's kind of sad really, I feel bad you are in that position but it doesn't mean I'm going to take time out of my day to explain why you are wrong.

>>22867598
Because it would take some serious work and I'm just not going to invest time in making you a useful person to me, it requires me to sacrifice way more and I'm too old for that. I'm ready to settle and I've already found someone to do that with. Sorry. You can call me a whore all you want but its not going to make me more available for you to have sex with.

>>22867585
checkout out orc stain art is dope

also stuff like sandman, hellboy, prophet.

nowhere men is nice as well but its taking ages to complete

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>>22867598
>>22867611

>woman trying to justify her actions

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24 M

School life pretty much fucked up my social skills.

Sure I can talk fine through the net, but approaching is difficult and I barely know what the fuck to talk about if I do manage to introduce myself.

Not insecure about my virginity of course.

And I'm more interested in a relationship than hooking up as well.

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Where the 905 girls at? Help a guy out

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>>22867616
I own all of those actually. I'm actually gonna get the two leather bound editions of Sandman so I don't have to worry about my collection not being returned. I have let so many borrow them and it's a pain to get 'em back.

>>22848502
Do you have a clitoris and can you orgasm?

(yeah, she's not gonna answer after a four day lapse, but it seems like a legit question to me, Dr. Science)

>>22867552
>pure

You were doing fine up until that point. Requiring purity does indeed make you insecure and shallow.

Let people be people, with all of their foibles too. There's plenty of attractive, impure and imperfect women out there that are PERFECT for you. Chill you testes, lad.

>>22855511
Never had a girlfriend, only held a girls hand once. 20yrs old feels real bad

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Dead thread oh well

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23, almost 24/f

i feel like i might be the minority in the fact that i don't mind being a virgin. it doesn't affect my life but then again i'm a disabled cripple that spends 99% of her time at home so what do i know

>>22868304
How are you disabled?

>>22868304
Im very sorry. You are very pretty though.

>>22868336
I only ask because you look totally able bodied.

>>22868304
Damn.

Sorry to hear that.

How were you crippled?

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It seems I found my home just now.

23/M
gay (both a giver and a taker)

Was never close to anyone, never even felt any affection before this cursed summer. Stumbled upon a guy I liked immensely for no apparent reason (found him because of drawing, which he does way better than me), traveled about 600 miles few months later just to see him. Welp, turns out he just doesn't like me one bit. First fucking affection, now I'm wishing it never happened in the first place.

An unironic basement dweller (the 600miles I didn't even expect from myself, I just had to see him no matter what). And it's not even the punchline.
The punchline would be the fact that I live in fucking Siberia. Don't get me wrong, the entire world seems to suck balls, but come on, Siberia? Oh well at least it's not Africa.
Ah, jokes on me, Siberia's actually just like Africa, but it's snow and endless taiga instead of savanna.

>>22868336
i'm on disability at the moment because of a genetic brain disease that i've had two brain surgeries for so far (was also in a major car crash), bad epilepsy and am currently being tested for lupus, although i'm pretty sure it's just really bad RA...at least i hope so.

but yeah, i look fine on the outside for the most part, although i have to walk slow and i sit down a lot

>>22868361
i am for the first 30 minutes or so that i walk, i've passed out in public and thrown up because my pain's gotten so bad so i've learned my limit. it's...not a good experience, especially having a seizure in public, as soon as people know you have epilepsy they look at you like you're a ticking time bomb lol

>>22868784
Im sorry. I hope things get better somehow, you dont deserve all that.

>>22868802
i'm coping alright, thank you anon :'3
things could be worse, every day i'm just glad i lost my front teeth in the crash and not my leg, a few more inches and it would have been crumpled under the car/metal

>>22847574
I actually had a hearty laugh, thanks anon.

>>22868921
I just want to hug you and hold you on my lap while listening to joy division. I really hope you get better.

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23/M/GA
Got a new phone, finally.

21/m

I honestly think I'm too awkward and not confident enough. Thag and I'd rather lose it to someone who at least has the same interests as me and will take the time to teach me stuff.

>>22868784
Now I really am sorry to hear all that.

>>22868784
Damn. That really sucks

Are you able to lie down and sit properly?

>>22867755
Look at this faggot

>>22868967
Oi m8, I remember you from the /imt/. You look less like a child and more like a man now, and you're growing your hair. How's your search going along?

>>22867177

I think you've been nice and everything, but you fail to see an issue many of us have I think.
Personally I've been turned down so far times, and I almost looks like I'll never find someone genuinely interested in me.

You look very attractive, but you should also try to place yourself in our shoes.
A lot of women are much more assertive in terms of sexual matter than let's say 50 years ago, but this also mean that the less assertive or 'nicer' guys have very little chance in the dating market.

Would you, or any other girls here, have any advice for me?
Things are getting more and more frustrating for me now that I'm about to graduate university, but still lacking any sort of experience with women.

>>22869708
No I think you are right that I probably don't understand. I don't think I'm 'stunningly' attractive but attractive enough to have options and in that way I am very spoiled so I really don't know what its like to be in your shoes in terms of sex at least.

I can understand other aspects of being lonely though. Idk if I would be human if I couldn't understand aspects of suffering. Like other things in my life that can cause me to relate especially to insecurity and low self esteem that sometimes accompanies being in a position like that. Or fear and distrust of people too. In some other aspects of life I might of been slightly more unlucky than some virgins here. Just because I can easily get sex doesn't always make things better. It actually really devalues sex, if its offered to me a lot. That's why I don't like going out or getting hit on at bars or clubs. The pushyness and attitude of a guy hitting on me turns me off. If it's this easy to get than it has less value. So intellectual stimulation and foreplay are more sexually interesting to me. I can't just have any fuck buddy. To some extent virgins here relate to that because if they really wanted sex they could get a hooker but sex is always more than sex.

My advice is to be what you are but confidently. Like even if its being not confident just stop trying to be what you think women want cos what guys THINK women wants is probably more nightmarishly lame and unattractive than I could ever think up.

Sex/affection is like relaxing you get get it till you give it up. I'm not good at advice.

>>22869855

Thank you for your reply. I actually agree with you on a lot points.

I've been described by a number of people as attractive and 'nice'. What is even more remarkable is that family members keep pointing out what good a father I would make.
If only they knew that I've never even held hands with a girl or been on a date with one.

The most important thing I think you mention is the valuation of sex or love. This is probably also where the majority of society seems to have a different view on matters than I do.
I'm probably much more traditional in my views on sex and sexuality. I was mostly raised by my mother, who had a traditional christian upbringing.
This more or less means that I have pre-sexual revolution views in a post-sexual revolution and post-feminism world where women are just as promiscuous as men (supposedly anyway).

Because I value sex and relationships more than other people, I also attach more meaning to these terms than perhaps most people do.
This results in me having different standards and having a different 'searching pattern' when looking for potential partners.
Most of my peers seems to meet their girlfriends or one night stands on tinder or in a club/cafe.
I don't see this as 'normal' behavior so it's not an option for me.

This leaves me with the big question: where do I meet women that satisfy my standards for a wife/girlfriend?
I have little interest in building a portfolio of women I've been with, I'm much more interested in finding a girl that I can be with for a long time/make my wife.

>>22870279
If the vast majority of people are doing something it is seen as normal. Like going to Church 50 years ago was normal, now its abnormal for the younger generation.

It goes against all logic to say you will find a girl there first time that you will want long term, you don't even know yourself well enough to know what kind of girl you will want in the long run. If you never been in a relationship thats why you dont know what girl you want. Most people try different partners to see what they want.

Now sure you can say i want a girl who is educated, doesn't smoke, stays fit, only likes white guys, and likes the outdoors.(my standards, i know asking too much) But personality wise you dont know what works best.

Is it possible to lose virginity after 30 without going to a prostitute?

>>22870330

I have a pretty good idea of what kind of women I find attractive.

You do make a valid remark though. Most people in our day and age prefer not to talk or have serious conversations with each other and do the fucking before they do the talking.
It sometimes seems like the potential for a long term relationship is judged on sexual performance or social status.

>It goes against all logic to say you will find a girl there first time that you will want long term

I really don't agree with that. I had more than enough time alone to 'work on myself' and work out just what my ideals and goals are.
Part of these goals however is finding a girl that I can share this life with.
I'll say that not having any friends or social contact outside of university is real big problem though.

>>22869855
25, too shy :(
add me?
liorcz4

>>22870279
>I have little interest in building a portfolio of women I've been with, I'm much more interested in finding a girl that I can be with for a long time/make my wife.
This is why I don't like dating sites or trying to contact girls on social networks. I don't want to go through hundreds of attempts and dozens of girls before finally finding that one person I want to spend my life with. I don't want to get used to the "dating game" and treat other people like a commodity. Even if I was more confident I would just continue to try and make good friends and hope that maybe one day one of those friendships naturally develops into love. If that never happens, I can deal with it as well. I've been inexperienced in love for 26 years now and my life is not that bad. It might always leave a void but I still have other things to be happy about.

>>22869503

Not really working on it. Right now I'm just trying to make money.

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>>22870347
It's possible to lose it at any age as long as you're not regarded, lost mine at 19 and fucked 5 girls since, I just lurk these threads when I'm in the bath if I'm feeling down

>>22870560

regarded?

>>22870649

Clearly you must be an astute and highly regarded gentleman if you want to lose your virginity. Grow a mustache and buy a top hat. that goes for women too.

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bump to keep on the catalog

>21/M
>no relationships
>no sex
>no friends
>People have come to define me by this
>brother's girlfriend is constantly asking me shit about why I can't get a gf and why don't I kill myself

>try OKC
>bunch of "too smart 4 u" "freethinker" girls
>ones that take the latest daily show or internet article to be the absolute truth
>ones that aren't this are trans with a ton of baggage and big egos

>try POF
>single mothers everywhere
>actually managed to get messages back unlike on OKC
>everyone wants to know about my job and how much I make right off the bat

IRL isn't any better either
I'm honestly about to just pack it in to be honest, some people just aren't meant to be happy in life
I've honestly given it 2 more years of trying, if I can't get friends, a gf, or get laid in the next 2 years, I'm going full MGOTW mode and keeping to myself for the rest of my life and career

pic is so that people read my blog

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>>22872175
>bunch of "too smart 4 u" "freethinker" girls
>ones that take the latest daily show or internet article to be the absolute truth
>ones that aren't this are trans with a ton of baggage and big egos
>single mothers everywhere
See that's the thing, I can totally relate.
I'm 24 and years of trying but getting rejected made me give up.
I met this girl who doesn't live too far from my hometown on another site, we talk and are good friends. She totally wants the D and doesn't hide it. She's 30 and obese, no kids though. Single.

So it's like man, this Christmas when I'm home to see the senpai, I could easily have her make a drive over and fuck. Do I want to waste my virginity on some old fat girl I don't find attractive and will never see again? No not at all.

But am I in a position to fucking debating and setting standards? No I'm ugly and no one wants me and I'm way too old to be a virgin. I guess this is what lowering your standards means. I'll probably go for it out of desperation and honestly you should probably just fuck a single mom too, 1/10 pussy is still better than no pussy at all.

>>22872221
>see the senpai,
LMOA nice filter.
To see my relatives.

>>22872221
there's no way in hell I'm fucking some girl who doesn't love me though
single mothers see me as a meal ticket and money for their kids from what I've seen
which is what happened on POF, they all talked about moving in and my job right away, it's like I didn't even fucking exist, I was just a bank account

there's no way in hell i'm ever going to lower my standards that far
I'd rather go full Elliot Rodge and kill everyone around me than take a pity fuck or some girl who sees me as my resources

Wouldn't say i'm ugly or anything like that, just a social retard most of the time kek

Everyone loses their interest in me super quickly, i'm used to it by now, no gf no ever, i also have very few friends and stuff, i don't meet a lot of people either and the usual when they like me i don't like them when i do they don't shit

I can say i have been in one date in my life tho, it wasn't the best t b h

It's fine

>>22872298
>which is what happened on POF, they all talked about moving in and my job right away, it's like I didn't even fucking exist, I was just a bank account
What the fuck

>>22872175
Tell your brother's girlfriend to go fuck herself.

Get off the internet

Start meeting people in person

Don't chase girls at all, just wait for them to come to you

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Is it so wrong to just crave for someone to hold? The only thing I want from a partner is to be desired by him. I was afraid I might not be that way, but (un)luckily I had the chance to confirm that in fact I really don't give a fuck about anything if I simply like the person.
I mean fuck, I'd throw away all of my earthly possessions and live in the wilderness if it meant being with someone I like.

But eh, it's all just fairy tale shit, innit? All of these fuckers are looking for someone just to use and shortly get rid of 'em as soon as they don't fulfill some criteria.
So drugs it is. I'd rather fill this immense void by psychedelics and stare into the night sky alone, giggling to myself, than be all miserable and shit. In fact I'd rather fucking kill myself but I'm too much of a pussy to try again just to survive by some sheer "luck". Cause hey, let's face it, I think I might in fact be one of those shallow people I despise. And do I think the shallow ones should exist? No, but then again - too much of a pussy to fix even one mistake.

>>22872322
>Don't chase girls at all, just wait for them to come to yo
Isn't that what everyone itt has been doing

21, F
I've had several long term relationships. Even talk of moving in with eachother, but I've never even gotten to second base.

god damn lesbians and their u-hauls

>>22872307
I mentioned that I was a programmer and they saw Silicon Valley dollars
at least that's what I think

>>22872322
>wait for them to approach you
that's what I did before internet dating and it didn't work out at all
women just don't approach me
your advice seems to me like it's going to land me with a leech or end up a virgin at 50

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23f

Been with a guy for 5 months now, we've been sexually active but haven't had PiV sex yet. He keeps holding off, wanting it to be very romantic or special or something, refusing if the conditions aren't perfect or getting overly nervous and shutting down if something goes wrong. I like him a lot but I kind of wonder if I've been wasting my time. We're both super busy with work and school and his internships so we meet up maybe every two weeks when we are free and make a whole day of it, I wonder if all the progress we make gets undone with the wait in between dates. I know he's suffered from anxiety in the past and his self esteem can be kind of fragile but I'm not really sure how much else to help. He's a much more romantic person than I so maybe he really wants a deep connection or real commitment or a declaration of love or something but I can't give him that without lying, I don't feel ready and I couldn't lie about that.

If I think about it I get kind of resentful, if I don't I'm mostly satisfied but I do sometimes wonder if it was a mistake to get involved with him. I've spent a lot of time waiting and a lot of money on dates/hotels/requests for days off from work for a guy who is too busy and won't fuck me. With the holidays coming up he wants to do more expressly 'couply' things with me, introduce me to his family and coworkers and has been hinting at wanting to get me jewelry (he doesn't make much from work/internship so it would proportionately be expensive for him). I don't really know what to say.

tldr; the dude won't shag me already

>>22872635
Not even sure what to say to that. I don't know why people build other people's virginity like this. Seems completely foolish to me, especially when you're being this ridiculous about something that you'll probably do hundreds of times after the first time.

>>22872635
What the fuck dude i wouldnt be able to hold myself.

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>>22872670
I'm his first too which makes it simultaneously more and less understandable.

>>22872685
That's what I thought too. We both mutually liked each other I thought we'd bang after a few dates but no . . . I can blame our conflicting schedules and lack of privacy to an extent, but I can't keep blaming external factors.

His friends love me, his mom and sis love me, he wants me do be his date to a wedding (I hate weddings), he keeps asking me how I feel about him (good but I think he wants me to say I love him), I'm pretty sure he's buying me an earring set he can't afford on top of all the little gifts he buys me. Even though we don't spend much time together I feel cornered. Typing this out makes me feel real bad. I really like when I'm with him and he does get me off but even then . . . He's so damn sweet and I enjoy his company but I've thought about ending it, I don't know how to bring up any of this without irrevocably hurting him.

>>22868304
if you're for real, do you have a skype? I'd like to chat

>>22872790
>lack of privacy
When i couldn't hold myself i banged her on a couch with people upstairs, and i had my head between her legs a few times with her mom on the other side of the door watching telly. And we did had a really deep connection for that. GRAB HIS DICK ALREADY

>>22872635
>I'm a sexually active female
how is this relevant in any way to this thread?
if you and your bf have been sexually active as well, he's not a virgin and not relevant either
is this just some cry for attention?

>>22872817
>>22872817
I have been trying anon, I have been trying. I think I might just have a much greater libido than him.

One time he DID have the place to himself (rare) he tells me to come over its gonna be a surprise. So I get myself all cute and ready and I get there thinking we are gonna go to bed and I find out the surprise is a dinner he cooked for us. Its very fancy looking I can tell he worked hard on it. He even lit a candle. I think we're gonna head back to the bedroom and he says there won't be time because everyone will be returning shortly and in fact they did. So we ended the night watching movies and playing scrabble with everyone else. I came home feeling terrible.

Our relationship is full of moments like that, with me trying something sexual and him deflecting and lacking any attempt to do something sexual with me unless I initiate it.

>>22872875
Some people dont consider virginity lost till vaginal sex has occurred. To an extent I'd agree with you we've been sexually active long enough the label of virginity doesn't seem to apply but fact is we haven't had penetrative sex yet so I think a lot of people would still consider us virgins.

>>22870279
That all seems fine to me you don't have to have a portfolio so to speak or do any of the other things your friends are doing. Those hook ups always baffled me. Not because I judge them for being promiscuous -I don't care about that. (Also I'm atheist so I don't believe in God.) Because I consider myself not 'heteronormative' I guess. Like I said if a guy approaches me it's already a turn off. It's just what I am attracted to naturally I have to feel like I have the control. Since this is so rare in a male when I do find it I go after it aggressively.

I never really considered myself promiscuous even though I've had several partners in my life and I've been having sex for over 11 years. Only because I see my type as such a rare gem. I feel like I'd be crazy not to go after what I want right away.

Sex doesn't have to mean we are in love forever or married, it can be casual, but if it's with a guy it always means I have some kind of affection for him. Since I am so selective and strange about the kind of man I want. But I figure I'm attractive enough to have the option to be that picky. I know that sounds extremely spoiled to a lot of virgins who are starved for attention. But it's my version of hypergamy I guess.

Women I can be more casual with especially the types I go after I want them to actually enjoy sex. Almost every woman I've been with does not understand my taste in men. They were almost all bi and attracted to an alpha type for a male and many of them just think I'm full lesbian, but I'm not. I ideally see myself settling down with a male.

I was raised with traditional values too, I was forced into church all the time, and very strict house hold. I actually didn't use the internet till I was 19 (I'm 27 now), that's part of why I think most of their ideals are utter bullshit. I'm not saying more liberal thinkers are correct in their ideals but just that neither side probably has it all figured out.

>>22872902
Holy crap i wonder what is his problem.

>>22870441
>treat other people like a commodity.

I totally get this but you should make yourself available on social networks. Like when I said:

>>22869855
>Like even if its being not confident just stop trying to be what you think women want cos what guys THINK women wants is probably more nightmarishly lame and unattractive than I could ever think up.

If you make an okaycupid or something and that's how you feel about it STRAIGHT UP SAY THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT. On my okaycupid one of the first things I say is how I don't approve of how this is like a dating resume, it makes humans look like goods. Real attraction comes from seeing someone when they are vulnerable too. SO have your flaws somewhat proudly. I know that's way easier said than done but it's a great shit test to filter out all the shallow assholes right away, so you don't have to worry about mind games, you know someone messaging you already accepts what you are laying down. Everyone has problems I don't care what they value or look like. So the fear of judgement is silly.

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Reportan.

Spend 90% of my time inside and I'm too boring for grills to take interest in me.

Gonna drink, smoke, do drugs, play vidya and watch animu until I get terminal cancer or something, might as well have fun while I wait for wizardry to arrive.

>>22872927
I've discussed this a lot with him but perhaps not in such stark terms. If his libido is so much lower he might not even realize he can't use it as a measuring stick with which to compare me against. I'd like to figure out a way to discuss it without him shutting down and beating himself up so we can actually work on it but . . . if I can't get him to at least calmly discuss things I think I'll have to end it.

>>22872998
Ok does he ever turns you on or do you ever really try to reach his dick or something "extreme" like that? Is he religous? holy shit man.

>>22872335
They forgot the part where they present some quality that would make them worth chasing.

>>22872635
Walk up to him in a towel, let it "accidently" slip. See what happens. The dude might be a closet fag or has too much insecurities to deal with. Or both.

>>22870544
this is the right way, man. take care of yourself and learn to take oportunities and chances.

25 m, forever alone, getting extremely nervous around strangers, being super shy doesnt help either, texting is okay at least. Almost no hope left, 5'6 and slim to average build, brown hair and brown eyes, dimples, but getting ignored by everyone

>>22872998
I know you are a virgin but have you tried being more forceful flirtation wise? Like if you've ever fingered yourself you know your comfort level already about an act like that. Or used a dildo or whatever (you don't have to say or anything) but you know what you've done during masturbation ask your bf to do that to you. I mean most people ease into sex after kissing and stuff. In this story:
>>22872902
>I think we're gonna head back to the bedroom and he says there won't be time because everyone will be returning shortly and in fact they did. So we ended the night watching movies and playing scrabble with everyone else.

Sounds like you didn't even get to the kissing yet. Usually it naturally goes in the order of the bases. So like literally start kissing him and cuddling him.

You said you haven't had penetration sex yet so if you've done everything else just keep escalating it by yourself. It can be nerve wrecking indeed but at least it's being super clear and straightforward about what you want.

I actually prefer the guys who are so nervous I have to do something like this to them. But if you yourself area virgin I can see the problem there.

>>22872998
I'm not a virgin, I'm a dude and I'm old. I don't want to be that guy, but your bf sounds romantic yet cringeworthy. Maybe this is why everyone keeps having this expectations over you. or maybe they have these expectations because he might be gay or have low libido. This or he's just overthinking all the time because of something you said about privacy or something? Even so, I couldn't contain myself with my first gf. Loved her, didn't want to treat like an object, but we'd do sexual stuff everywhere even hiding in public and we'd spend days fucking when I had the house for myself.

time to have a clearer conversation, he didn't take a hint from the previous ones and he'll feel worse if you keep things for yourself.

>>22872998
Yes he does and yes I have. I don't know too much about his family even though I've met his sis and mother. They aren't religious but their cultural background is Muslim and the mother's side is orthodox Christian. I've wondered if this plays a part but he practices neither Islam nor Orthodox Christianity.

>>22873014
He's seen me nude plenty of times. Sex is usually just oral between the two of us. Oral is nice but when that's ALL you do? I don't like hands, he doesn't like hands, there is no variety.

>>22873045

I'd say do something more extreme than this though: >>22873014

IF you've done most other things already. Like have a situation planned where he walks in on you (somewhere private!) and you have everything prepared. Like in lingerie or literally naked on a bed waiting. Have birth control/condoms whatever everything ready. You don't have to have an exact idea ready either. Like you don't have to plan EVERYTHING. If you are a virgin you prob have no idea what you solidly like anyway so just tell him even if neither of you know what to do you are going to awkwardly explore until you figure it out. Men don't understand that sex is play and not a performance. So they get really anxious if they think they don't know what to do.

>>22873066
>get his dick out
>get on top of him
>ride
>?????????

>>22873045
I *think* I've been super flirty and sexual. I don't think I come off as shy and naive, I'm much more confident than he is and am the one to initiate (every time) and the one that recommends we try new things or positions. I'm taking the lead sexually in all our encounters. Maybe he's submissive? I don't mind being the leading party but not every time.

>>22873066
woops that was adressed to >>22873010

>>22873065
I hadn't discussed any of this with my friends (they think our relationship is wonderful) so this has been a very helpful discussion here, I think I have to be very explicit with him about how much this is bothering me. I think there is definitely a matter of anxiety with him that he might need professional help with, alcohol makes him too drowsy and pot makes him paranoid so unfortunately those aren't really options. I once asked if he'd ever been prescribed anything for his anxiety and he said he had once but he didn't like relying on pills and got really defensive when I suggested he rethink that position. He has made a lot of progress socially but not in this arena.

And yeah he's a real romantic. I much less so, though I appreciate the gestures.

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>>22873066
How can he do oral but not use hands at the same time? Lol. Unless a guy has his hands tied between his back there is no excuse for this. MOST guys have extensively seen porn at the very least but you might want to show him some. Most porn is not realistic depictions of sex but clips from porn can sometimes be informative to virgins. Like literally typing in 'How to eat pussy, how to finger a girl' into google can be informative if you want to go back to the very basics and like need him to learn the actual parts of the vagina.

Like show him this video since it's a really good depiction of the the sucking on the clit while fingering technique: See pic related.

25/M
Very, very shy around new people, worse around girls. I'm also a bigger guy, so apparently I give off intimidating vibes, and I must not be that attractive as no one seems interested in talking with me. Kinda don't know what to do at this point, it's all become a vicious circle. Just working on improving myself and hoping agaisnt hope I guess.

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>>22872983
That's my mano right there. I'd trip the fuck away out of this life with someone like you.
>>22868661 and >>22872332-faggot (I forgot my IP's dynamic)

>>22873143
Yep. But what she needs is the DICK dude.
He needs to fuck her.

>>22873143
I prefer one finger myself but the same way she has her finger right under her chin.

You do this while sucking. Making suction with your mouth against the entire clit area hood and all while also flicking your tongue against the tip, where the round penis looking tip of the clit is (even if it's still covered by the hood). Or you can use other hand to pull back the hood slightly for it to have more exposure.

You can't see it but she's still working her tongue. Flicking it. It's kind of like having a mini penis sucked while getting fingered. It feels great.

Your hands should always be busy on a girl though... Even before you start fingering her. I mean if I have a pussy in front of me my hands usually go up under the ass cheeks to feel those up while bringing it close to my face like savoring a rare dish at a restaurant. I'm not shy about touching/licking her butthole either since as I am a girl I know how good it feels on us too. Duel fingering actually feels great to me too.

>>22873152
Yea but I'm just saying it's weird to preform oral on a girl with no fingers. How boring.

>>22873143
I've done exactly that . . . come to think of it I wonder if the BC might be a problem too. He has difficulties staying erect with a condom but refuses to have penetrative sex without it. I'm on birth control myself and OK, he doesn't trust it/me that's fair but he's gotta work with the condoms otherwise. I don't know firsthand just how much sensitivity is reduced with them but it may be a factor?

>>22873088
Wouldnt work on him, he's the one that needs an extensive warm up

>>22873143
we do this, I just meant hands exclusively.

>>22873206
I like fingering while rubbing the clit with a thumb as i make my way down her neck/body to do pretty much what you described, but what i am most interested at is why does her bf wont fuck her

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20m, Had some chance with hot girls, but fucked up. One blond hottie literally dragged me to the bed, and wanted to fuck, but I was drunk and retarded and she was my friend and I didnt get it *facepalm*

>>22873225
I've tried condensing it down to a few points, in no particular order:

> he isn't comfortable with it unless we're both in love with each other

I don't think we're there yet

>He's taking a perfectionist approach to sex and doesn't want to unless its romantic and magical

We've had opportunities where we were alone but he said it wasn't special enough and he'd feel bad if my first time was in a seedy garage (I am beyond caring). He takes this level of perfectionism to other aspects of his life but it generally means he has poor sleep habits, it hasn't otherwise caused him detriment and has certainly helped him in work and school

>He's nervous

He's an anxious person in general

>The birth control is a hindrance

Just realized this one. He has trouble with condoms but doesn't trust me with birth control. I did ask him once to split with me for birth control implant (good for 3 years) but the cost put him off. At one point my periods disappeared (happens with some BC pills) and he freaked out over the possibility that I got pregnant because he came on me and it I dunno, like dripped down or something. I had to calm him down and reassure him I wasn't in any financial position to take care of a baby if I ever got pregnant anyway and also, the likelihood of getting pregnant that way is very low.

>>22873255
Don't spend your life stressing over one fuckup. I'm sure you'll have plenty more opportunities man.

>>22873303
If he has that perfectionist approach for sex, it wil be quite shit. Or at least so i've heard from stories like that. Sex has to have a more of a desire than the whole plan shit, unless you are doing some stuff like BDSM. Birth control is scary i agree, though. If you guys go as far as oral i dont see why he wont go all the way, its just very stupid imo.

>>22857248
Idk if this is a good thing but I don't believe you.
I'm 6'3 and 23 and have been getting more ass than any time in my life
Tinder that shit and show off you're height

>>22873220
Is his cock very large? Sometimes a large cock can have erectile dysfunctions because it takes so much more blood pumping to keep it fully hard.

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24/M

Might've just gotten my first gf...

>>22873332
IMayve putting it off for so long has actually built it up even further for him :(

>>22873420
He is pretty big actually, hmm. Enough so we were cognizant that we'd need to stretch me out to accommodate him. Just that once I thought it was ready he was all, 'no not yet'. He says he doesn't want to hurt me . . . maybe it would have been over with already if I wasn't a virgin too.

>>22872635
Literally go into a vacation.

Can't think of anything else.

Fuck work and school.

>>22873488
Unless he's over 9 inches that shouldnt be much of a problem.
This is too much of a talk, i'd rather fuck you myself isntead. sigh.

>>22868304
oh wow. You're a short haired cutie which is completely my type but only because of how pretty you are is why I thought you were a troll at first, but if you don't ever leave the house then that's understandable. I'm kind of like you with how I don't mind being a virgin since it's not something that I think about a lot or effects my life drastically. It's more the lonesomeness that I think about. But still, you could probably lose your virginity easily if you wanted to

>>22873516
>>22873527
I'm definitely talking to him about it but I'm thinking I might try to set up something romantic myself. I initiate all the sex but he does all the romantic stuff, I don't do it too much. I'm getting my aunt's cabin for the winter, he might like that. We'll both be on break from school for a little bit so we'd get to spend a few days together.

I'm also thinking of dragging him along to Planned Parenthood so we can discuss different types of birth control.

22 m, anxiety always gets the best of me, overthinking things and generally, women don't really find me attractive

So realistically speaking, how much of a turn of is it for women if a guy doesn't have any friends (male or female) and doesn't have a 'good spot' in the social hierarchy in his peer group?
I can understand how it might feel overwhelming for a girl if she might need to fill my social void, but still is that enough not to date me?

>>22873650

Sound like you are dating a lesbian man.
Please tell him that his first time with you isn't going to be perfect, but that you'll have enough time together to grow into a very experienced pair of lovers.

>>22874906
you need to smoke a blunt bruh

>>22870649
Retarded*

>>22873213
This is a long shot, but I'm going to be in the area....next summer.

Do you have an email?

M / 20 / ca

My problem isn't that I can't talk to girls that isn't it . Mine is that I'm to nice . I always go on dates and hang out with girl so to me it isn't that bad the problem is that I always end up getting friend zoned. And I've known a couple sluttyish girls I've talked into hanging out and doing stuff with but all of them never let me finish because (you don't want to lose it to me not like this ) so yeah my problem is finishing the job and being to nice.

>>22848137
I like your hair cut, what do you ask for?

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25 male forever alone

19 M, fat shy virgin reporting in.

24/m/NH
Had first GF ever
For 8 months meeting her first time 2 months before that, her personal life hits low point after low point, be really sympathetic wanting to help, shuts me out, try and recover after 2 weeks apart, you love me more then I can love you, lets just try and be friends...

22/f
Overweight and meh face. Don't wear make up. Awkward. Not so shy anymore, though.

m / NC
Would anyone like some making fuck?

18/m/GA
Not fat, pretty athletic

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18/m/colorado

freshman in college. probably 7/10, very athletic (dont lift though... collegiate cyclist), i've kissed 2 girls in my whole life.

I suck at being social apparently, been sorta rejected a couple times already and it seems like every girl I'm remotely interested in already has a swath of dudes around her... and I'm just not good enough. I'm really smart and I don't think like a "normie", but I'm not autistic.

I just want a girl I can connect with, but apparently i'm just not good enough!

>haven't made any lasting friends since 5th grade, literally incapable

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the virgin queen is back !

>>22879741
do you exercise? joost curious

>>22879801
This word is not in my vocabulary

naah more seriously , no not at all

>>22879801
Buuuut why

>>22879955
just wondering 2bh

i always ask it and it makes me sound like a douche but don't worry, i'm just askin'

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27 and no idea why(not for lack of trying) but I am

>>22880019
okok ahah . no problems . i wanted to exercise seriously but i lack motivation ahah

>>22868784
Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I have some brain damage myself and some mental health and developmental disorders I try not to let get in the way of living a normal life but they do anyway...a lot. People look at me like a time bomb as well but for different reasons.

I hope the lupus test turns out favorably.

>>22880032
I won't be "that guy" but even just going for walks every day is a good start!

>>22867050
I feel like this is all a farce and like having things in common with people doesn't actually matter at all(even with just normal) friends because I've known plenty of girls I found it really easy to find things we liked in common but no one was ever attracted to me and even as far as my "friends" the ones I actually get along with and don't lose my temper at are actually the ones I have the least in common in with

>>22868921
>>22868784
>>22868304

Hey, if you're still lurking - is weed legal whee you live? Does it help you with pain and etc?

>>22880081
well i walk to cegep and to work everyday ahah

>>22861461
Hah it's my family's house

>>22850116

Well I haven't been "dumped" because of it but I have had women I knew who told me I'm attractive tell me that being a virgin at this age(or I guess the last time someone told me this I was 24 and she was 22 desu) made her feel like something is severely wrong with me

>>22880103
cegep?

>>22880268
oh yeah for short in canada we have cegep before uni

>>22848230

You're cute as fuck!

>>22880086
It's not about having things in common with him but liking who he is.

>>22880751
So its not what you like but why you like it that indicates who you are. Most of my hobbies are things I can do alone and that indicates that I'm not very social for example. Every one likes entertainment things (movies, books, games). So generally I literally can't find people who at least I know which ones they are talking about even if I don't like them myself. And THAT is what leads to a discussion or conversation.

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>>22880751
It sucks balls though when you find someone you like for no apparent reason, but are equally disliked in return.
Fuck affection, man. Who said that even if I find someone I like again it won't be the same? People seem to dislike you all the more if you like them, or at the very least that's how it's always been in my case.

>>22880751

idk what this is like I like basically anyone who will actually talk to me at all since pretty much no one will. I was just responding to the part where you said there has to be stuff in common

>>22879741
Give me your contact so you can be my waifu
Or send it to [email protected]

I was a virgin until about three years ago.
I'm 23.

It's not worth losing it to some random shit of a person. Even if she says she loves you.

18/m/ and just so fucking pissed. Been trying to use CL to get a hookup and that's not working. ANyone in the Kenosha-Racine area in Wisconsin and is a girl wanting to hook up, hit me up at my kik: MadxHatter0 or message me on Skype: enko_kusonogi

>>22854622
>Hamburg
Probably arab

>>22880641
ugly as fuck*

>>22855356
better than being 27, having used Tinder and almost never getting matches, never finding the matches you do get attractive and never getting responses even when you're more successful acquaintances do the talking and being socially outgoing but people still just generally ignoring or being in disinterested in you no matter what you do

>>22881371
Why not? I've never understood what's so special about it

Communication and interest is key.
I've almost had sex several times in college
I found a drunk girl in my bed once when I came back from the shower my roommate and I didn't even know who she was. but she knew me and thought I was cute and wanted to stay. I saw her a few times after that and she hated me.
another time I was invited to what I was told was a big hotel party at a hotel it was just two girls I had just met that were having a shared birthday and both wanted to loose their virginity, but the other guy never showed and the lack of mutual interest other than sex right then, made it so awkward I stopped and we never talked again.

After school I've lost all my friends over the last 5 years and have not made any new ones. I don't think I have enough in common with people in my area that I could really relate with them.
I don't know how to hold a conversation with a stranger or quickly be friends with people I have just met.People always think I look angry, I guess I just have a resting asshole face.
>>22867308

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>>22885154
dropped pic

29 male. Way too shy in real life.

Starting to get frustrated at being a virgin.

>>22881378
post on CL as a girl and check out why real girls don't use it.

>>22886379
an offer a minute

>>22868304
where are you from anon?

>>22886391
from the biggest creeps in town.

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ive never gotten any action, me or naw?

Hey thread I'm really bored at the moment. If you are sub - drop your skype and I might give you attention for a min or two till you become boring. Good boys.