So this was posted on /r9k/

Why were you on /r9k/?

> tfw no rich parents to support me while I study for phd in stats

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>>9118402
Math -> Bad Tier
Pure Math (Poor Meth) fags BTFO

>>9118406
Because why not. I just lurk a little on a lot of 4chan boards. And /r9k/ has some pretty interesting posts here and there.

>>9118402
>finance
>maximum prestige

yeah, everyone will think of you as the reptilian jewish rat that you are.
why ain't pure maths at the top ?

>>9118465
lol this, my friend in finance hates himself/the environment, says it's completely unfulfilling, even though he makes like 120k a year easily at 26 and has like 250k saved.

The stats you provide only applies to the US and perhaps Europe.
I have an MSc in Chemistry from the top university in my country and I'm employed for less than 10000 $ a year which provides me a lower mid-tier life in the conditions of this region.

>>9118402
Its just blatently incorrect on nearly every level, and it's very clear it originated from /r9k/ due to a complete disconnect from the world and reality.

This board is all kinds of fucked up I don't even know where to begin

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>>9118531
>This board is all kinds of fucked up I don't even know where to begin
Welcome to 4 Chan.

I didn't even go to college and I make 120k easily
>good goy we need even more lawyers and engineers, give me your money
No thanks

>>9118402
People don't understand that making 200k a year while working 60 or 70 hour weeks is not that special

Also how is engineering masters a higher tier than engineer PhD

>tfw doing political science
How much did I fuck up, be honest

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>taking advice from this site's most concentrated hive of mental illness

>>9118531
/sci/ is definitely very tame in comparison to the rest of the site

>>9118402
This is literally so wrong it's not even worth addressing. What kind of shithole do you live in?

>$

Nevermind.

>>9119064
Why do you hate Australia so much?

>>9118932
Depends entirely on your abilities. You could become a high ranking official, or a work as a cog of some bloated bureacracy. EU has plenty of polsci shmucks earning decent wages. If you are compelling and smart enough you can even write books.

>Communications / Journalism
>Worthless / Poverty
As with most "useless" majors if you end up actually working your ass off and are super passionate about it, you can land a decent job. Most likely in a large city working for a national publication. You won't make big bucks, but a decent living.
This doesn't happen often, so I guess you can say overall it's mostly low tiers level.

>>9119276
This. The cream will pretty much always rise to the top, no matter the field. Some fields just have a higher starting position. Barring some expections of course. If you are gifted and passionate about your field, you should end up at the top of the field.

>>9118402
>a bunch of misogynistic basement dweller virgin loser unemployed people say my degree is bad tier

One sentence:
-(-1) = 1

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>no degree
>1m+ take home

enjoy your doctorates lmao

>>9118504
And your country/region is...?

>>9119462
Is this post ironic, I don't visit this board

>>9118932
One of my relatives studied these, and you know what? She ended up working in a bank. You gotta be flexible & have a good nose for relations.

>the more autism needed to achieve your degree, the better it is

I have a feeling OP might be an autist.

>>9119276
or if you are a sell out/shill, a hot but dumb woman, or a good showman/woman (sports people fall in this category), or..
anyway, it's all about networking and not being dumb

>>9118402
As an actuary I feel it's necessary to point out the comfy part of life does not begin until exams are done but even now life is pretty fucking good

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>>9120021

>You gotta be flexible & have a good nose for relations

>>9119693
Some people are lucky. Some people are just incredibly driven and intelligent. I think it's the former for you since you're posting on 4chan. I wonder who you sucked off to get there?

>>9118402
You faggots need to stop overrating aerospace engineering. It is just a botched version of mech e with no job mobility and cut throat competition. It should be in great tier at best. Also putting mech e above EE and CE is a questionable choice.

>>9120191

t. butthurt non-flying engineer

>$250k starting
>anything
no

I have a B.S. in Archeology and Anthropology and have been unemployed for 4 years (not counting a few stints in shitty seasona retail work here and there). Never got into grad school like I wanted. Now considering the military to save myself.

>>9118423
>/r9k/
>pretty interesting post

What interesting post are made by a group of faggots and horny teenagers ?

>>9118402
You can get a 'decent' job with a BS in natural sciences?

>>9118402

Currently doing an MS in Computer Science. No idea why its not in the middle field and huge variation in bachelors and PhD.

Anyone care to elaborate?

>>9120487
I make barely 30k as a physics TA, while going to school as a graduate, while my gf makes 56k a year with an associates degree in radiology..

>>9120509
Everyone hates Computer Science on here because they consider it just being a codemonkey.

>>9120509
It makes me super >:( but people here seem to think M.Sc in CS == 3 month code monkey diploma.

>>9120487
save some money, sell electronics stuff or whatever shit you can buy from china
or do yoga courses or whatever hipster shit there is
I don't know much about Archeology and Anthropology, so I can't help you much with your specific knowledge, sorry... but you could reuse it to offer services/sell shit in some creative way
anyway, welcome to neoliberalism, where degrees in humanities are worthless, and only technicians/technocrats are """useful"""

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>>9120453
Implying that EE can't fly.
Implying that Modern Aircraft don't fly by Avionics (Aircraft Electronics & Control)
Implying that Mech E know more about Control & Automation than an EE.

>>9120554
>>9120592

Then what does a PhD do to catapult your earnings that 5 years on personal projects and career movement couldn't?

>>9118402
>nurses doing so well
In the U.K. at least - many nurses live barely better lives than homeless people

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>>9120527
Be aware that statistically a girlfriend/wife that earn more than men are more likely to Cuck you.

>>9118402
Physics BSc in Czech Republic.
Managed to land a materials R&D in a automotive company job thanks to my undegrad research and now I'm making 70k yearly.

Which is a shit load of money for a country that has 13k average income.

Take from that what you will

>>9120688
>>9120696

Be aware that people that are autistic about their posts and convulsively delete them are closet faggots enjoying the feminine penis.

>>9120696
Not him, but please tell me this isn't true. The woman I like is way more successful and wealthy than I will likely ever be ;_;

>dual majoring in pure math and comp sci

did i get memed?

>>9120712

Perceived wealth is different to actual wealth. Just be more prudent in who knows your Job title and paycheck.

Never share a bank account.

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>>9120712
You have 4 options:
1) become wealthier and more successful than her.
2) pretend that you are wealthier, but don't let she knows that you are more poor.
3) Take the Risk. (High Risk of "Sharing") Still poor & Be honest.
4) Forget about her.

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>>9120712
Trump's advice:
Grab them by the pussy.

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>>9120688
>>9120696
>Deleting posts
Not on my watch faggt

>>9120788
>>9120710
You're doing God's work anons. Keep these bastards accountable.

>>9120712
Women are always placed in positions above their actual skill set thanks to muh diversity quota. Your wife/gf will be constantly surrounded by men more successful than her, meaning more successful than you. Yeah she's not going to stick with you sorry m80.

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>tfw you have a gf that demands to become a stay-at-home wife as soon as you finish your degree
I am not gonna get cucked, r-right?

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>>9120805
Depends, i say the chances are more in the favor of you getting cucked though.

>>9120805
pushy

>PhD in math: Bad Tier
>Bachelors in actuarial math: Superb Tier
Wow tons of research went into this meme list didn't it

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>>9120805
In the workplace the Risk is higher because there are more sex predators around.
In home you can put cameras.
Working along side in the same lab with you as the boss and her as your assistente would be safer though. Take the example of Marie Curie & Pierre Curie.

>>9120805
>I am not gonna get cucked, r-right?
Definitely. The idea that men have to be the provider is part of gynocentrism and gynocentrism is well known to perpetuate itself. In other words, one aspect of gynocentrism causes all the other aspects of it and vice versa. Cuckolding is part of gynocentrism, ergo being a provider will turn you into a cuck the moment she calls for a plumber and Tyrone Thundercock answers.

>>9120805
Depends. Is your mailman black?

>>9120805
Yes. A stay at home wife is different from a stay at home mom. She just wants a free ride through life and you're definitely going to end up responsible for some other man's kids right under your nose. She will have zero regard for you beyond money and material gain. A woman wanting to quit her job or career after having kids so she can dedicate herself to raising them is much lower risk and isn't doing it to be a burden or drain on you.

>>9118402
>CS that high
>Law that low
this is one big shitpost, and I hope your house burns down for it

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>>9120894
Go home /r9k/
The Patriarch has existed for the entirety of civilization, and it is the thing that created civilization in the first place

Just because you hate women does not change this fact

>>9120937
Hey, you do you. If you want your wife to be a freeloader who only sees you as a money provider then have at it. I'd rather not be objectified like that and actually seen as the human being I am.

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>>9120796
This is too fucking much to deal with. God damn it. All I care about is love, not money or status. Fuck this.

>>9120937
not in India, ancient hinduism was a matriarchy and one of the oldest civilizations

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>>9120940
the wife raising the children and the man bringing home the daily bread is the default of society
go take your asspain somewhere else

>>9120945
AND THAT IS WHY TODAY YOU STILL HAVE DESIGNATED SHITTING STREETS.

WOMEN RUIN SOCIETIES.

>>9120947
>the wife raising Tyrone's children and the man paying child support is the default of society
ftfy.

Will you fight, or will you perish like a cuck?

>>9120949
bro, I'm not indian I'm just fucking stating "facts" I'm not very confident in

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>>9120805
>>9120920
>>9120937
A feminist GF will definitely/certainly cheat you with many Chads, blacks & browns.

>>9118402

Isn't finance the facile version of economics?

>>9120127
I actually just started studying for my actuary exams. I have a finance degree already but my job sucks nigger dick so I want out.

What's the job like? Can I ask your salary?

>>9120805
I recommend to seek a less egoistic & more altruistic waifu.
Altruistics are chaste, Egoistic cheats.

>>9120703

I'm hoping to use my physics degree to go into materials science

What was your undergrad research based on?

I was thinking of doing something related to condensed matter physics

>>9118402
why is EE in great tier but "engineering" under professional column in the superb tier? does this mean like Professional Engineer or wut

>>9120961
Finance has more math and statistics. Economics have more Humanities. But a Economist can work in Finance too. Because the 2 fields overlap and are closely related.

>>9120966
If you wanna do materials research CMP is literally the only specialization you can do, there is some research going on in optics as well, but CMP is where it's at. Once you take your solid state course you'll understand more, but there's a lot of interesting stuff in CMP most importantly at low temperature physics

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>>9118552
>>9118986
Hormones in the water supply are turning the Friggin 4 Chan Pepe Frogs Gay!
Source: Alex Jones.

>>9120680
in the US nurses are in high demand and are payed very well, and have multiple options for 6 figure pay

>>9118402
Great and Good tier are nearly indistinguishable, and also incorrect

MBAs outside of M7 don't struggle in the lower middle class, they generally can make 6 figures. They just probably won't get recruited into IB from Business school.

Worthless Tier is incorrect in general

Trash tier PhD part is incorrect, you can probably get employed at some college assuming you did it at some place at least mildly impressive (majority of humanities PhDs successfully go into academia)

there is just so much wrong with this

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Thread about graduate wages turns into a cuck thread on a 4chan Science board.

>never change

>>9118423
Traitor

>>9121023
But it is: https://youtu.be/n2-qdxhC6jc

>>9118470
whats his job tho?

>>9120191
this.

>>9121048
That's because the unfortunate truth is that women are getting paid more and getting hired into better positions than most men in the same or similar fields nowadays and so now if we ever want to find love we have to settle for lower quality, less intelligent women to keep the balance of power in relationships from literally fucking us over by cheaters. A woman could be making $250K plus a year and still refuse to date someone who isn't making more, as if that even matters at that point. I'll probably be lucky to make over $50K a year and unfortunately my type of women generally tend to be nurses, radiation therapists, etc who make well above that. No good future for me, assuming I don't just die a virgin to begin with which is looking more and more likely.

Has anyone here sold out to the banks (investment banking)? Specifically for people who got a STEM bachelors. How did you make the transition and how is the life?

>>9118402
nice opinions of people who never go outside

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>>9121067

Not to mention a woman can get a scholarship into any field because muh genitals. Best hope is to find timid and well raised young love with a strong father.

I had a solid 8 from a family of doctors but we had to move away from eachother and relationship broke down. Been single for about 2 years now.

>tfw no loyal and beautiful scientific gf

>>9118402
>electrical/computer engineering
>no road to a 6 figure salary
stopped reading there

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>>9121111
Kurisu is the Ideal /sci/fu
/sci/entist's waifu
Kawaii/Cute, Loyal/Faithful & Smart/Genius

>>9120485
Look up US doctor salaries. Even pediatricians make that much.

>>9119995
I think it's just poor bait.

>>9121111

checked

>>9121111
>1111
kek

>phd compsci 150k+
wew

>>9121293

Bullshit and useless unless you go into academia or computational research

>>9118697

money because most people don't make up the opportunity cost of a PhD but also the infographic is not accurate at all

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>>9121293
>Bullshit and useless unless you go into academia or computational research
But...But I want to go into academia & computational research Senpai.

>>9121390
>opportunity cost of a PhD
Who pays for a PhD though

>>9121658
>opportunity cost
you clearly don't know what this means

>>9121662
Have you ever worked in industry

The upper strata in engineering are all occupied by PhDs who make manager salaries

The only way the PhD is not worth it long term is if you have a family to raise

How can statistics be at a higher tier than math when statistics is math?

>>9121670
Statistics is Applied Math, It is not Pure Math.

>>9120127
How long did finishing the exams take you?

Finishing mine is comfy in and of itself to be honest I love learning this stuff

>>9121675
What is the best applied math statistics computational math?

>>9118552
Source

>>9120662
yeah bro, all the electrical energy is gonna generate lift for you to get of the ground

>>9118402
At my school the starting salary for CS is 90k avg

Dunno wut this chart is talking about.
Also probably shouldn't be so salary-centric

>>9118932
If you are good at networking and study at a very prestigious uni, then have a chance to get a more or less decent job as a pundit and a political commentator in some think tank or magazine.

>>9122115
>electrical energy doesnt generate lift

heh wind n sht amrite

>>9121682
Not done yet. On asa modules

>>9120962
Job is great if you love math. Really never too stressful and if you have motivation you can learn a lot of accounting and regulatory stuff. I'm two years in and at 80k

>>9119989
im gonna guess... portugal

>including only education degrees
>not including military background and/or security clearance which heavily skews the figures

If you're making near or over $100k with only a B.A. there's a good chance you're got military/ clearance access. Especially if you're doing aerospace and mechanical engineering. And with military/ clearance access even the visual arts/graphic design (as long as it's specifically cad related) and linguistics/communications can net you +70k.

Starting my Mechatronics course in 2 weeks. Did I chose a meme-study /sci/? My plan is to transition into electrical engineering probably next year. Wanted a mix of mechanical and electrical engineering my first year.

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>biochemistry major
So where do I stand, /sci/?

>>9124489
It depends where you live I guess? Usually with biology, but biology is placed disproportionately low on that table, it's very wrong. Although it might be an American thing. If you're in Europe, you're more or less at the same place with bio, meaning you have some lab monkey jobs available with a bachelors, but if you want a real bioscience job you should do a PhD and post-doc. I know some post-doc bio people who have decent salaries and live a comfortable life with a good work routine, at least those working in industry with a set time schedule. Working in academia means being a slave to the lab head and working on weekends etc. if you have to.

That said, most bio people in general in my uni end up doing something unrelated to lab science after graduation. Whether that's banking or bioinformatics or something else completely unrelated to the field.

>>9118402

Utilitarianism was a mistake.

>>9118402
>Actuaries
>US - $150k starting
>UK - $50k starting
Could someone explain this please? Is there a qualitative difference between roles in the US and UK?

>>9124474
no, that's a fine choice

>lumping biology into one degree
For fucks sake, that's like lumping acoustic engineering with electrical.

>>9118402
The PhD chart is a bit silly, as it's a matter of your specialisation. Plenty of Physics PhDs go straight into finance (or big data, which is paying a lot - usually particle physics PhDs there).

MBA M7 needs to fall. Comp Sci PhD needs to fall. Nursing PhD needs to fall. Professional Engineering and Nursing need to fall. Veterinary might do with a bump up.

>>9118470
>makes like 120k a year easily at 26 and has like 250k saved.
tell your buddy he's a total fuckup
t. 27, make ~95k a year since 22, and have 300k saved

>>9124531
1 euro = 3 dollars

>>9118402
>MD
>$250k starting
No. Also the real god tier is to do some stem subject, then work in some shitty job for a year while you develop you own trading platform. Finally you quit and just trade all day.
>>9118423
>And /r9k/ has some pretty interesting posts here and there.
No, they don't

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>>9124647
What are the best PhD (memes aside)
Physics? EE? Finance? Biochem?
The 300k math PhD is a lie. Here in My country a BSc in CivilE earns much more than a PhD in Math.

>>9120485
only if you work private once you finish residency
"starting salary" is technically your residency and that pays like shit

>>9124727
was meant for >>9121182

>>9120712

>woman I like

Don't worry, she'll never have a chance to cheat on you.

there's a way out of all of this, you know:

starting your own business.

you've got to have the balls for it though.

>>9124768
Starting a business just means you are working for the banks or investors. The only difference is that you can choose your own salary, but pay yourself too much and your investors will basically fire you.

>>9124793
how do you become a rich investor then?

>>9124808
By being born into it.

>>9124675
you realize how stupid it is to compare savings without knowing anything like cost of living or lifestyle right? He lives in NYC

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>>9124808
>>9124810
Rich Close Relative (Dad, Uncle or Cousin).
Bonus points if your Relative is a Jew.
> t. Jewish nepotism

>>9124527
How so?

>>9118402
This is bunk. An MS in Math/Stat pays more than a PhD.

>>9118402
>Astrophysics
>"Worthless tier"

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Astrophysicist/Salary
http://work.chron.com/much-money-make-astrophysicist-22923.html
https://www.shmoop.com/careers/astrophysicist/salary.html
http://www.ehow.com/info_7895114_average-starting-salary-astrophysics.html

>>9118402
>discusses starting salaries without adjusting for costs of living and area medians
just move computer science up to narwhal tier and you got yourself a reddit guide to college