Does being fat make you stupid? If you look at the leaders in

Hard to tell, upbringing is influenced heavily by societal reflection upon the individual, fat people will be treated differently, and thus their development will be different
Can't think of any experiment that could prove a direct link between being overweight and being stupid, but you can probably concoct some statistics about it nonetheless, given the large sample size you have in america.

Maybe it's the other way around, maybe being stupid makes you fat

Nah, at least in women's case it's true that fat reduces their intelligence. but if you'd googled your question you would've already found that out.

I have a theory that IQ has more to do with brain metabolism than anything else.

Smart people seem to be able to remain fit and healthy despite never doing any physical activity.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2142523-eating-a-lower-calorie-diet-improves-learning-ability-in-worms/

I think its just that you have to be pretty retarded to get fat in the first place. Someone with at least average IQ should be able to figure out "calories in, calories out", where as you see a bunch of idiots on normiebook trying fad diets, weight loss crystals, and other bullshit.

>>9103107
No.
But being stupid about your diet and physical activity does make you fat.

>>9103183
Calories in calories out is pure bro science reductionism.

>>9103187
Yes, dieting and exercise never works, it's just broscience.

>>9103187
No its not, its simple thermodynamics. If you eat less or workout more you will lose weight, simple as that.

>>9103194
It's really not

>>9103194
>>9103193
If you don't eat healthily and lose weight healthily it can put undue strain on various organs and systems in the body. I wrestled for a good chunk of my life and it was after people found about the unethical practices being used to drop weight so we all were made to learn about nutrition. If you lose weight too fast and don't eat properly as you do it long term damage can be sustained.

On the other side this line of thinking is what perpetuates anorexic ideals which is something that teenagers are very susceptible too. It has the highest death rate compared to any other mental illness because calorie in =calorie out so I want to be skinny just stop eating for awhile.

Weight loss should be done carefully and with respect to the body that has to change during the whole process. You can reduce it too "calorie in is calorie out" but that's like reducing driving to "One pedal forwards, one stops, wheel turns". You can drive with that and maybe even get where you need to be but the likelihood that you will end up hurting yourself is very high.

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>>9103187
shitposting this blatant should be reportable

>>9103183
Calories in calories out is the modern equivalent of vital force theory. It is a very wide sweeping abstraction.

Using specific diets and feeding schedules, a person can eat a calorie surplus and still loose weight.

>>9103200
It's really not difficult to lose weight, especially now that there is plenty of healthy food options easily available, and gyms with the necessary equipment to burn calories. Anyone who doesn't have a legit disability or is over 50 has no excuse to be fat.

>>9103218
thats blatantly false

>>9103219
It has never been "difficult" to lose weight for those with the time and inclination. Many don't like working out and many more don't have time between going to work every day until they are exhausted and taking care of the mundanities of modern life. Getting healthy food either involves actual cooking, disgusting food or expensive food and few even know what healthy food actually is. If they did then activated almonds and organic salt would never have even been thought of.

Basically what it comes down too is that most people don't have the inclination to spend the time or money on taking care of themselves. Some don't even have the time or money. Some are raised in an environment where McDonald's every day is normal and eating vegetables is weird.

Losing weight is not hard, losing weight in a healthy and appropriate manner is unless you are obscenely rich. This is why we have so many anorexic people in the world and why so many teenagers die from it.

>>9103107

>Does being fat make you stupid?
yes

>>9103210
go eat 1500 calories of ice cream a day for a month straight and get back to me

calories in calories out is the biggest meme theory of all time quality of calories is far more important than the quantity

people can still eat 5000 calories a day and die of malnutrition

going away from the behavioral aspect, i'm gonna propose to you a biochemical theory, op

>testosterone is aromatized in the fat cells in men
>more estrogens = less testosterone
>less testosterone -> less dht -> less neurosteroids
>neurosteroids are proven to be important in things such as spatial thinking, determination and mood regulation

ergo being fat makes you dumber

Maybe it's more to do with working memory; someone with a strong one should be more able to resist impulses than a weak one, and working memory is a significant factor in academic success (more so than IQ, in fact).

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>>9103107
Fat people are the way they are, because they lack the self-discipline needed to improve themselves. They're not necessarily stupid, just lazy and unmotivated which at the end of the day is still mediocre no matter how you slice it.

In general, I think that being fat is mostly an emotional issue for people rather than intellectual. People usually eat to comfort themselves or run from a problem. People that are fat exhibit less self control, so maybe that can relate to studying/academic self discipline. I have only had one obese professor when i think about it, but he was very competent. Maybe he got fat years after his PhD, who knows.

>>9103107
Being fat makes you lazy, not stupid.
Reaching a high level of success requires lots of effort and good mental performance. Eating like shit every day cripples both of those.

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>>9103107
false

>>9103187
>Calories in calories out is pure bro science reductionism.


>Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.
>Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.
>His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.
>Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.
>"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

>>9103256
yes but they will still die fucking fat

>>9103107
Just read all the fat fags here denying the simple fact that "calories in = calories out". This in itself proves that your thesis is true.

>>9103534
>174 pounds
>BMI 24.9
fucking manlet lmao

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>>9103107
Karl Marx was overweight.

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>>9103107
John Von Neumann was fat. He was one of the best Mathematicians of all time.

>>9103194
people with high TSH find it extremely difficult to lose weight even while maintaining a large calorie deficit. endocrine glands and hormones plah a big role in dictating the pace of how one lose's weight. On the opposite hand people with sub TSH are the scrawny ones who never gain weight despite overfeeding past their caloric requirement with greasy mcdonalds.

>>9104965
So what's your point?

>>9103338
https://gutpathogens.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-4749-5-10

>>9103107
People with lower iqs tend to have a higher propensity to extreme obesity, according to this study

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264643382_Intelligence_and_obesity_Which_way_does_the_causal_direction_go

I mean, this isnt really hard to understand is it?

Heres a challenge :

1. Grab a Usa map
2. Locate where the lowest iq is concentrated
3. Get a map off obesity

Awe in wonder, I think any reasonable smart person would realize that what you wat is associated with positive/negative effects.

Being fat is just one of the more obvious signs of bad traits like not caring about yourself or weak discipline. As a fat person I can confirm how easy it is to lose weight, especially in comparision with learning challenging skills. I can give some insight about the mentality of being overweight and why it correlates with being unsuccessful in life.

You just don't feel good in your body and you easily get depressed when you are overweight which continues the viscious cycle of staying fat. Losing weight may take years depending on where your starting point is and you need to stay consistent troughout the entire time which is the actual problem. It's easy to slip back as losing weight is mostly about your mentality. Never missing a gym day and never cheating will give you a good mentality but if you fuck up just a single time you will fall deep and it will take time to recover. Since losing weight is goal oriented it's that much easier to fuck up and get depressed. You will constantly fight short term enjoyment for long term benefits.

I think it's obvious from what I wrote that the process of losing weight is quite similar to gaining skills. If you can't lose weight you are unlikely to stick to learning since with both you need patience and persistence over long time periods to reap the benefits.

Since high IQ is not the same as hard work it's doubtful whether overweight has anything to do with low intelligence or not. Intelligence is just the exp multiplier, it influences but doesn't necessarily controls what kind of actions you take.

A lot of people in this thread (and in general when obesity is discussed) are only focusing on how hard it is to stop being fat once you are already fat.

I think in this situation it's also important to consider how they got fat in the first place. A smart person will avoid getting fat at all. There's not much you can do to control things when you're under 13 (although IQ is partially hereditary so being a fat kid is a sign you have stupid parents) but once you're a teenager or adult you can control what you eat a lot more and an average intelligence person will realize being a lardass is bad and avoid it.

>>9105123
>a sign you have stupid parents
Nah, for example my Lil bro is fat (12 yrs old) but I never was. I don't think it's tightly coupled enough to draw any conclusions.

>>9105123
That's completely ignoring external influences which have a bigger effect on your life than your genetics. I don't understand why on the science board of all places everyone wants to shove everything into black and white answers. The less intelligent you are the simpler answers you desire because your brainlet brain can't handle anything more than that.

If we reach the next stage of science they will take apart causation and put it into thousands of individual elements that have all their own value in the whole. But keep believing that IQ describes intelligence instead of just being one small part of it.

>>9104989
In Math & Philosophy it's called proof by counter example.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterexample
Proving that OP statement is wrong by showing an exception. >>9103107

>>9104975
John was a food connoisseur. Americans are simply food vacuums.

>>9105331
I was just implying that Marx was stupid, not a good enough bait apparently

>>9105108
You still lose in the end though.

Seeing how people treat you different at 300lbs vs 200lbs is retarded.

The average person is as shallow as a spoon.

Can you simplify -51+85i/34 to -3+5i/2?

Small towns make you fat, medications make you fat, not having your shit together in life until you figure it out makes you fat

>>9105063
I think it is a lack of self-discipline.

Potheads want to smoke pot under the veil of medicinal utility. Look at all of their arguments centered around medical value to get a backdoor to legalization, even though libertarian arguments would get them through the front.

Food addicts want to gorge under the veil of "the body needs food to live".

Hiding abuses behind practical uses seems to be a pattern.

"I'm using the internet to study"- looks at porn

>>9103220
wrong.

>>9103256
holy fucking shit how retarded are you malnutrition != obesity

>>9103107
Being fat is a stupid thing to be and counter productive in every way

Then again today these are not considered stupid so voila

>>9103107
No, but being stupid tends to make you fat.
>ranch doesn't have any calories stupid, it's a condiment, I don't have to count the many cups of it I used
>why do I keep gaining weight?