Discuss the superiority of the big five test over other psychopop tests like Meyer-Briggs and post your general or detailed results.
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/
>300 questions
>>9081228
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip120/
Shorter version too, if you don't want a very accurate representation of your personality.
>>9081235
I did the 46 question version
>>9081214
>>9081245
http://www.personalityassessor.com/bigfive/
Fair enough.
>extremely high conscientiousness
Peterson would be proud.
>>9081214
I am procrastinating hard enough to do this right now. Perfect.
>>9081248
Take the 120 question one then, or the 46, though they would be less accurate. Real personality tests don't come easily.
120 questions. Seems about right. For reference, I got intp in the Meyer-Briggs test
>>9081214
did the 300 questions, to avoid doing my lab reports.
kek 0th percentile
>>9081228
e 17
a 3
c 1
n 47
o 90
did the 120 question one, might do 300 later for comparison. this one seems about right
>>9081336
nice i did mine to avoid fleshing a coon skin
it belongs to the flies now
>Doing 300 question version
>"34. I waste my time"
>Think for two seconds
>Check "strongly agree", then close window
>>9081369
Well, I personally have a lot of issues with that, hence why I answered the questions related to those two aspects the way I did...
>>9081369
>>9081380
Though, I guess part of the explanation would lie within my detailed results.
>>9081369
your guess is as good as mine.
I tend to get things done by the time they need to be done
Can i join the neurotic fuck up club?
>tfw extremely open but extremely introverted
>>9081418
That's what we call a sub
>>9081427
surely that'd be open and agreeable?
>>9081418
aka the "cuck"
>>9081369
My life is pretty shit senpai.
If this personality test is true I am basically a nigger
>>9081462
what is subness and sub? some sci meme?
>>9081467
submissiveness
>>9081467
I don't know, I thought they referred to being sexually submissive, and I simply highlighted the qualities one would have they were a certain type of sexual sub. But it's a meme.
>>9081412
I'm sorry bro. I hope your life is not falling apart as well.
I score average percentiles on all
80 on conscientiousness
2nd percentile on neuroticism
70 on extraversion
And the description that goes with this type :
"
withdrawn, not wild and crazy, private, loner, not relationship obsessed, not swayed by emotions, insensitive to the needs of others, unhelpful, interested in intellectual pursuits, avoidant, does not put the needs of others ahead of self, thinks before acting, very scientific, not upset by the misfortune of strangers, avoids small talk, values solitude, private, does not get worked up about most things, fearless, unaffected by the suffering of others, calm in crisis, not easily excited, won't do much to avoid rejection, not known for generosity, not easily confused, cold, not prone to complimenting others, dislikes most people but tries to get along to minimize hostility, hard to get to know, more dominant than submissive, not easily hurt, driven by reason, influenced more by self than others, rarely worried, hard to impress, not that interested in relationships, hard to influence, not concerned about failing when trying something new, self confident, knows why they do things, not easily moved to tears, not prone to jealousy, not guided by moods"
(from http://similarminds.com/global5/rcoei.html )
>>9081214
i hate these tests.
''I hate change'' How are you supposed to answer? I like good changes and dislike bad changes, it depends on the situation and the implications and concequences of those changes.
How am i supposed to answer? Neutral? That would make it my most used option on these tests.
>>9081605
The big five has high level of correlations with actual personalities (and their implication). These questions are a bit unclear, yes, but I'd guess you'd answer neutral, since you'd be neutral to change, what you enjoy would be more like the amount of positive consequences or something.
>>9081456
lel
>What is your gender?
>2 options
>>9081214
Data mining shills, data mining shills everywhere...
>0%
t. student who lost his scholarship
>>9081336
how has your lab partner not commited suicide?
http://similarminds.com/global5/rloei.html
l-literally me
>>9081214
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/results=429323-531/
when this test proves that you even more of a beta than you thought.
This is pretty accurate. I love meeting new people and I'm pretty open from the get go, but I also tend to piss a fair amount of people off.
So anyways, who wants to hear my opinions on the BLM movement?
>>9081749
I'm OP, had same results.
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/results=429339-110/
So I'm a cunt? I knew that before I answered 300 questions.
>>9081369
It's held together by a thin veneer of illusion that I'm a functioning person.
>>9081822
But now you know for sure you have a Chad in you.
what a load of horseshite
0% agreeableness and yet i get along with most people
>>9081761
honestly fuck BLM, what a joke.
So desperate to find conflict they even jump onto cars.
I did 120 questions
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/results=429462-449/
Got 99th Depression, so that's great. The 0th liberalism helps though
I don't remember any questions asking about being sad.
did 120 questions
Even that is too many
Results are okay. I don't like most people.
>anon is low in agreeableness
not suprising
should i just go and kms?
did 120 question
I really hope the smart but lazy meme gets me through uni.
>>9081214
You guys nurotic as fuck
>>9082885
well, we're all people who ended up on 4chan
>>9081976
>can't even agree with the test
>>9082924
kek'd
>>9082924
http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/results=429695-355/
>T. Don't know if too humble and self-conscious or actually a commie beta cuck.
Am I fucked?
>>9081214
damn, that was a long one
>>9082657
You have a personality more likely to kill others than just killing yourself.
Is this good?
I consider myself to be a pretty average person.
>>9081214
Basically an ideal personality.
>>9083183
1/5
>>9083180
Compared to the rest of us, that's surprisingly nice. Low neuroticism, high in openness and conscientiousness - which means you're probably smart and work moderately well - and high in extraversion and agreeableness, so people like to be around you, and you enjoy that. I'm pretty sure what you got was very good.
>>9083183
2/5
I doubt the reliability of this one though. I'm altruistic sometimes, but rarely.
>>9083183
3/5
>>9083183
4/5
>>9083183
5/5
>>9081214
0% Agreeableness (I love to argue & hate.)
0% Conscientiousness (Procrastination & Laziness)
1% Extroversion (Autismo. Almost a NEET but I'm a College Student)
97% Neurotic (Life of Suffering & Anguish)
54% Open (Average because Too open is Gay as opening your legs to someone fuck)
How did I do?
>>9083183
I'll now rate you faggots
>>9081214
Horrible.
>>9081245
Decent, college professor type.
>>9081296
Not bad.
>>9081336
Meh. At least you're smart.
>>9081366
Better than the last one but still meh.
>>9081412
Horrible
>>9081418
Good
>>9081539
Not bad
>>9081637
Jesus fucking Christ, do you have Aspergers?
>>9081761
Amazing. Would hang out with if had a chance, probably.
>>9081849
Absolutely disgusting.
>>9081976
Bad.
>>9082427
Bad.
>>9082460
Decent.
>>9082542
Good
>>9082601
Meh.
>>9082657
Yes, you should.
>>9082769
Bad but OK.
>>9082773
Pretty damn bad
>>9082885
Second best one yet.
>>9083074
Very bad.
>>9083139
Bad.
>>9083180
Very, very good.
>>9083221
epic
>>9083221
What is the difference between not bad and decent?
>>9081214
What does this mean for me?
what the heck
>>9083251
it means you don't want to talk to anyone and theres a good chance no one wants to talk to you
>>9083257
Sounds good to me.
>>9083253
So there's a good chance you're willing to snort a rail off a guys dick before it goes in your ass.
>>9083251
Literally me. Funny as an observation sci is low on everything except bottom two.
>>9081214
According to This Flag:
Being a Gay Fag Homosexual means
High Extroversion
High Agreeableness
High Conscientiousness
High Neuroticism
High Openness
What am I?
what means?
>>9083264
it was suggested there was opportunity to do this at anime expo and I had no objections
missed the party tho :(
>>9083221
OP here, when you see my detailed openness results, can I be moved a rank from horrible to bad? I think the detailed results make a difference here.
>>9083251
You don't want to talk to anyone, and no one wants to talk to you, and you're probably a bit more nervous than the average, while being open to some things, presumably intellectual pursuits since you're on /sci/.
Also included are my results from a test two years ago.
Apparently my Neuroticism and Agreeableness completely flipped around in the past years.
INTP master race by the way.
bad ?
>>9083221
>Jesus fucking Christ, do you have Aspergers?
nope, but I'm really weird, test is accurate I did it again in anothr site
>>9081605
Do you have some type of autism? Neurotypicals always seem to "iron out the wrinkles" and not get caught up in such nuances.
>>9081605
agreed, I really can't understand such vague questions.
>>9081214
I feel pretty comfy Desu
>>9083502
ENTJ btw
>>9083452
I spent a lot of effort the past few years on learning how to deal with my own emotions.
As for agreeableness, I guess I've got a more optimistic outlook. Also the older results probably aren't too accurate, since back then I wasn't aware of how much I actually try to avoid conflict socially.
Did I pass?
see #4
>>9083743
What are you so angry about?
We all are neurotics...
What can we do with our neurosis?
>>9083850
kys our selves
>>9083824
I think a pattern could be drawn. Most /sci/ members are somewhat introverts, with medium to high openness (presumably, they have very high intellect) and surprisingly high neuroticism... Though it makes sense, I would guess, that these are the type of people you'd find (me including) on 4chan, and more specifically on /sci/.
Despite the overall low "openness" I got a pretty high score at imagination specifically.
Tell me what you think?
>>9083904
nervous chaotic wreck
I am the type of person to watch a lot of Peterson videos
>>9083904
I think the openess part is bullshit. They mix up things like openess to intellectual things with openness to being a daydreamer with openness to art with openness to emotions.
Can I ever make it?
Wew lads, Im fucked in the head?
>>9083921
The test has empirical backing though, unlike the MBTI, and it correlates to many different things efficiently, like your salary, interests, etc.
>>9081369
We don't.
>>9081377
kek
I clicked >disagree and continued to finish all 300 questions :) surprisingly ended up high in conscientiousness.
I'm not that neurotic I think
>>9083957
And its also like 50% genetic, at least.
I can't disagree.
generally get intj/intp
SAVE ME
Didn't save mine but I had something like:
~15 Extraversion
~90 agreeableness
~30 Conscientiousness (which I thought was pretty off desu)
~ 60 Neuroticism
~ 95 Openness
I usually get INFJ. Also, huge (far-left - like end capitalism far-left) political advocate.
What's the diagnosis doc?
>>9084158
I'm pretty much a slightly more disciplined and much introverted version of you.
nice.
>>9084161
Son?
>>9081214
http://www.pcworld.com/article/164527/online_quizzes.html
Read this:
Here is the archive
http://archive.is/igHtd
>>9084170
>facebook quizzes
This article is baloney
>>9081214
3% achievement striving, how fucked up is my life gonna be?
Hello from >>>/v/
Well, I'm a lazy cunt but atleast I'm not neurotic
Wasop
ENTP all the way aswell
Just fuck my shit up senpai. My mother gave birth to a sack of meat.
Which category of the big 5 is most desirable in a research scientist?
fuck
>>9085262
Openness is necessary and conscientiousness to a degree.
rate me senpai
Welcome to the club.png
>Very little green ITT
>>9082460
Your results look similar to mine. I did the 300q test but never bothered to save it.
I am extremely conscientious in real life but never knew I was so nurotic.
Depressed yes but still see beauty in nature. Low self esteem and issues from being bullied.
I've expirienced how horrible the average person can be if given an easy target.
>>9081214
My scores. I didn't realize how big a piece of shit I am.
>>9085626
At least you're not neurotic.
>>9085574
Being conscientious is great though. I think you could get out of your depression with that trait.
At least i got 100% at something
>>9085832
It's elevated my work status for sure.
It's the only thing I'm proud of.
>>9081214
>>9081214
Did the 300. Am I Woody Allen?
>>9081214
They're all pseudoscience.
I just took the 120, then the big5.
Two different answers (By a considerable margin in the openness and agreeableness categories)
>pic not related
>>9085925
Openness is correlated with IQ, and conscientiousness + IQ = life success.
Sorry about your life friendo.
>>9085930
At least he's not high in neuroticism, which means he can still be happy.
i like arguing
Did I win at this?
>>9083180
Oh shit, according to this test we're pretty similar. We should hang out at least once on principle.
>tfw physics major
>>9086060
You have actually a pretty amazing personality, though maybe conscientiousness could be higher, but I'm sure you can do great things for others and be happy.
>>9086271
You like arguing about why string theory is false and Michio Uzumaki is selling lies to the public?
>>9086429
more pedantic stuff
could these fucking questions be more vague?
"i can't stand weak people" what the fuck do they mean by "weak?" physically? emotionally? mentally? i have very different opinions for all three
"i value cooperation over competition" in what context? i value competition over cooperation when i want to get good at something, i value cooperation over competition when i actually want to get useful shit done
i can't fucking stand these quizzes where i spend 3 minutes trying to comprehend each of their rorschach blots they call questions
Only brainlets take this test. Tip: You're not a special snowflake. Everybody only cares about their results. Nobody cares about your result.
Maybe that'll help some brainlets not waste their time.
>>9086647
Damn, that's some salt and shade.
Fuck you anon, I was rather interested to see the spread of 4chan users.
>>9086637
All personality quizzes are dreadful. If you take any of them and land anywhere but dead centrist you are and will always be either a failure or a pain in the ass.
>>9086647
That would be true, except that the big five test has empirical backing. It's not perfect, but it's not unscientific.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits
>>9085574
I'm really hoping that I can get my conscientiousness up to the upper 90s by stopping procrastinating.
Life without suffering isn't worth living. The highs cannot exist without the lows.
I don't believe that anyone is intentionally malicious; rather, people separate the world into good an evil (always placing themselves in good). This allows people to do things that are reprehensible, but they believe they are fighting an enemy, and therefore it is good if evil is vanquished. You cannot view yourself as good, otherwise those who oppose you become an embodiment of evil. Too many people also have the category of good that only contains themselves, which means that the entire world is therefore fair game. The only way to avoid this is to not consider yourself as good, as then those who oppose you do not become evil.
About what I expected
>>9083308
Okay, I'll up you a bit. Still. art is not that bad.
Fuck my shit up senpai.
>super high neuroticism
Fugg
Rate. Also, how the fuck did I manage to be part of the 0th percentille several times?
>>9087255
cuck/10
>>9081214
>how fucked am I
>>9086045
>>9086060
>>9085999
Also physics student, currently doing my masters
>>9086637
it's supposed to be how anyone could be perceived as weak.
would you call someone "weak" to be derogatory or critical?
if so, then yes.
there are 300 questions because some of them are similar, but worded differently.
if you answer consistently along similarly interpreted questions, then it could be said you have a statistical disposition towards that character trait
>>9086720
t. imbecile
That's me
>>9087438
You got like the perfect personality. Agreeable enough to be liked, but not enough to bend the knee and lie ; extravert enough to be able to put your ideas and work out there, while not exaggerating about your talents ; high in conscientiousness which means you'll get things done, and well, and high in openness which entails that the things you'll do are complex and requires a high level of intelligence. To top it all of, you're low in neuroticism which means you're prone to being happy. Great job anon.
another physics major here
rate plz
>>9087638
Good overall, but high neuroticism is problematic.
TRIGGERED
>>9081214
It's not paranoia when the whole world really IS out to get you
>>9087782
Are you from /pol/?
People with very low openness shouldn't even be on this board
>>9087790
Nope, /k/.
>>9081214
Who else /sociopath/ here?
>>9086720
This
What does this mean?
>>9087782
Your result is almost equal to mine, I'm also a paranoid.
>>9088062
Just don't let anyone else know cause they might use that to trick you!
Seems I'm pretty average
I noticed with a lot of these anon seems to go into the test with this ideal in his head of what he wants to be, and that affects the results.
So just reminding you to answer as HONESTLY as possible.
>>9081214
>Agreeableness: high
Lmao, fucking loser doormat. I bet you get called a nice guy a lot.
>Openness: low
What the flying fuck are you even doing on /sci/ you incurious brainlet?
>Neuroticism: extremely high
I'm starting to see a pattern here: you're a tumblrina aren't you?
I did the 300 questions one. My autism wouldn't let me do the less precise ones. I did not expect to be so low on the Openness dimension.
>>9081456
The cuck would be someone very high in agreeableness.
>>9083221
>Very very good
>extremely high in agreeablness
The guy is a total doormat for fuck's sake. High agreeableness is the worst trait to have for those around you. Even high neuroticism is better. That way you're only a menace to yourself. But high agreeablness folks? Fuck those. The most annoying people in the world. Goodie-two-shoes who have to concern themselves with everyone. Also prone to communism and other forms of killing people because you love them types of lunacy.
>>9081214
INTJ or INFJ on the old one.
Guess my profession
>>9086152
Thanks anon. Conscientiousness has always been a problem for me, I feel I'm torn between to many things sometimes, often I find myself saying fuck it and choosing one thing, often later than others. That said, I feel it's cause I think things through too much
>>9088653
Engineer?
intj for a broader perspective
>>9088690
JUST.
>>9088653
How does one score high in openness and high in conscientiousness? I feel like they're pretty contradictory.
oh shit
>>9088669
CORRECT. For extra credit, which field?
>>9088812
High intellect, obsessive personality and ambition. I like to know exactly what other people are doing so I can plan around it, and let people know what I'm doing so they don't get in my way. Also a huge ego, but I'm usually right so people tolerate it
>>9088812
Openness is being open to new things and conscientiousness is being hard working/having a sense of responsibility/duty. I don't see how they contradict each other.
>>9082657
>http://www.personalityassessor.com/ipip300/
Exactly like mine boi
"You are extremely low in generally wanting to be good to other people, including helping them when they need it."
This makes me feel bad though...but it's true
>>9088974
Let me guess, you're high in neuroticism as well?
>You experience very low levels of happiness, joy, and other positive emotions.
JUST
yeah, fuck doing stuff with the purpose of being liked by others
Sounds about right
>depressed since teen years
>love foreign food, countries, music, art and literature
>always kind to strangers and try to better their day by smiling and being polite / helping when I can
>due to depression often bad thoughts and can be very cold to loved ones when I get the period where I feel nothing and even have to track calories and remind myself to eat
I think if someone else took the test for me I'd score very different though. I have a cirlce of very great friends and when I'm at the bar or club I don't have a hard time making friends even though I always feel like I should be somewhere else. I'm a student and in groups I ofen take the leadership because so many students are so fucking incompotent. I don't know if it's because I moved out already and have my own small "company" but I often feel like I'm surrounded by small children and it really angers me when someone doesn't try to do something by themrelves or try to better themselves. I also have a limited capacity of "social battery" to the point where I often leave parties early without telling anyone or throwing people out of my apartment
>>9089610
Studying in Udem as well. Good to know there are fellow people from Udem on /sci/
>>9086060
>>9086045
>>9087438
>>9087638
also a physics major here
>>9083502
>>9083508
We're pretty similar it seems.
I'm definitely not as extroverted as this test says. Much of my high score comes from being a "busy" or "on the go" person, which I'm not.
Also, I always get INTJ on the Meyers Brigg test.
Self Discipline killed my Conscientiousness score
>>9090067
Me too, me too.
>>9081462
You'd have to be high in cooperation, altruism and sympathy to be a sub?
Didn't know how to answer some of them but this isn't too far off.
this is the CHAD result
>>9081214
I have no friends. It's accurate.
>>9090289
>average agreeableness
>chad
>500 questions
i dont even read peer papers if they are 500 pages lmao
>>9090436
I'm in the same boat as you, except less extrovert, and more agreeable.
>>9090289
>caring about people
Not Chad
> when you thought you were a pretty chill guy but you're actually crawling in your skin
>>9090549
dem wounds will not heal...
>>9090239
I'd guess so. I mean you want to please your partner and obey them. I guess that'd be the key traits so that you cared enough for your dom to listen to him and his orders.
>>9081214
Guess my meyer-briggs type
Roast me
is this good or bad?
i don't know what to make of the results...
>>9091204
tfw worst enemy is myself
so thats me then
>>9083187
Tiny pimpis tiny pimpis
Well, fuck. But I think it overstimated a little bit neuroticism. INTJ/rloei on the others.
INTJ on the other one, I'll upload the rest as well
>>9091403
Your personality is pretty terrible I must say.
I'm very open and extroverted but hate people. I feel like I should have a higher score for neuroticism but only took the 42 question test.
>>9091618
>>9091619
>>9091620
>>9091623
>>9091626
y r u guys so fucking unstable
>>9091659
I also got these on a different one
openness: 85%
conscientiousness: 45%
extraverted: 65%
agreeableness: 55%
neuroticism: 18%
>>9091586
Probably. I have little interaction outside a few persons I know since multiple years, and not even irl..
is this suicide tier?
Extraversion - 22nd percentile - very low
Agreeableness - 14th percentile - very low
Conscientiousness - 80th percentile - very high
Neuroticism - 12th percentile - very low
Openness - 3rd percentile - extremely low
>>9091659
anon... am i normal ?
openness: 36%
conscientiousness: 68%
extraverted: 31%
agreeableness: 20%
neuroticism: 12%
took the 300 questions formula btw
>>9081214
KEK
>>9091792
I am chad BTW
>>9083180
>>9086058
All three of us?
Is this data QC'd? I'm in the works of answering this test with bs info(ie: I'm a 0yr. old Martian from Jordan who's a Pastaferian) and the worst possible answers. will edit in pic of results when done
Thought I'd be more neurotic. Huh
What kind of person am I sci?
What is my field of study?
I work vaguely in the field of business/organisational psychology, and it's bizarre how prevalent the Myers-Briggs test is. Business types will talk about it all the time, even though it's been widely discredited in academic psychology. I guess whoever owns the rights to it does a pretty good job at marketing it. The Big 5 test is the best we have and it's the one I use, but of course two people could score exactly the same on it and still be very different.
>>9091890
Curious, but what type of things do you look for in the sense of traits in people? Like you do hire people on the basis of big5? How do you use the big5 in your job?
>>9091847
How'd I do?
>>9091926
>Like you do hire people on the basis of big5?
not him but this would be crazy: while I was doing the test I knew exactly what answers would have given me a more "likeable" and "employable" result
>>9091926
>>9091934
Personally I'm not involved in any sort of psychometrics for hiring or promotions, but I'm pretty sure that sort of thing does happen. Organisational psychologists have been using bullshit like Myers-Briggs and NLP for years - they tend to be less academic than lots of other psychologists, because they're career-minded business types (out of all psychology careers, this is probably the most well-paid). Not sure if they've caught on to using Big 5 yet, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they'd use the questionnaire to hire people who are more extraverted and conscientious, for example.
My work is vaguely in the field of architectural psychology, and I'm researching and consulting on what types of workplaces are best suited for different people based on personality traits and a few other variables. It's a bit of a weird luxury role, but I have complete freedom to spend all day reading psychology papers, so I'm pretty happy with it.
>>9091932
Lmao, you're neurotic and otherwise useless.
>>9091953
Based on the extremely low extraversion and extremely high neuroticism, it's almost certain that he'd suit a segregated workspace where he can focus on his work in peace. That assumes he's doing the type of work that can be done solo which isn't necessarily the case, but I'm guessing naturally he'd gravitate towards those sorts of jobs. This is just a working theory though, I've only just finished the literature review and haven't actually done my data collection yet. What we know from studies of introversion-extraversion in particular is that introverts have a higher natural level of psychophysiological stimulation than extraverts, and need less additional stimulation from the environment (e.g. noisy atmosphere, bright colours) to reach their optimal performance level.
I'm sure there are loads of interesting things with which different personality traits with, but unfortunately I've not really studied them (at least, not recently). I'd imagine there's a good summary on the Wikipedia page though.
>>9087601
t-t-thanks
>>9091980
That sounds like an interesting field of study. All I know from that (well, not all, but most) comes from Peterson, so I'm not sure if it's reliable source material or not. But from what you're saying, is that some jobs are most optimally done by introverts, and other by extroverts, as opposed to the ''popular'' knowledge where being an extrovert is just better?
pretty accurate. I generally hate all people that put on a fake personality or just talks about useless shit.
>>9092027
Most of the studies that looked at differences in introvert and extravert performance did so in the context of some experimental task in the presence or absence of additional background noise. There's pretty consistent evidence to suggest that extraverts prefer the background noise and perform better than the introverts when the noise is playing, whereas introverts prefer silence and perform better than the extraverts when it's silent. They're all pretty artificial experiments though, so you have to take it with a pinch of salt when applying findings to the real world.
On a more general level, I'd say that introverts are definitely more suited for some jobs and extraverts more suited for others. Introverts are more likely to be happy with periods of prolonged and intense solo study, which would likely bore extraverts. On the other hand, extraverts are more likely to perform highly in jobs that require lots of socialising, as this might make introverts more anxious. Play to your strengths right?
That said, one danger of categorising yourself as one or the other is the belief that these traits are permanently fixed and there's nothing you can do about it, e.g. "I'm an introvert so I'm always going to act like a sperge around pretty girls and it's not my fault". I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that a variety of genetic and environmental factors have led to you having a specific personality that makes you more suited for some things and less suited for others, and that doesn't mean that you can't recognise the areas where you could improve on and work on them slowly. I'm an introvert and absolutely hate any social situations where I have to initiate things, but I recognise that this could be a problem in certain contexts, so I try to deal with it as best I can.
>>9091631
Wew, that's cool (that the test seems to work not our depressive nature)
>>9091888
Are you in medicine?
>>9081214
Stop posting popsci bullshit on /sci/.
>>9092244
I feel exactly like that. If I can't have some safe time, without anyone interfering, I start to panic. Especially if I am out socially or around people for extended periods of time (including work).
>>9091888
That's a weird one. I'd guess you belonged to /lit/. So something like philosophy.
>>9092757
Just wondering, was your undergrad difficult? I'm considering switching programs to that. And which philosophy do you like?
Extraversion - 85th percentile - very high
Agreeableness - 13th percentile - very low
Conscientiousness - 78th percentile - very high
Neuroticism - 10th percentile - extremely low
Openness - 73rd percentile - high
this was a lot more like a survey than a personality test, myers and briggs is leagues ahead of this trash
>>9092768
It really depends on how you define difficult. The CS classes are conceptually easy but time consuming. The math classes are average on both accounts, as long as you don't fall behind. Together they can kick your ass if you don't stay on top of things. I would say expect 40-50 hours a week of actual work. This is all assuming you want to double major, not do a combined program. Overall, I have maintained a relationship (gone on regular dates, spent time together, etc), went dancing weekly, participated in clubs (math, dance), and done part time work (researching, tutoring, being a teacher's assistant), and did not feel too overwhelmed. As long as you stay on top of your work, none of it is too bad. Good luck.
>>9092768
For philosophy, I started with greeks, and I generally enjoy absurdism, mainly Camus.
>>9092805
>myers and briggs is leagues ahead of this trash
One has a solid statistical background, the other is m&b
Extraversion - 30th percentile - low
Agreeableness - 45th percentile - about average
Conscientiousness - 30th percentile - low
Neuroticism - 53rd percentile - about average
Openness - 26th percentile - low
How'd I do?
>>9092244
>>9092398
Problem is, you'll most likely be forced into some sort of open-plan workspace if you ever work in business, which will be completely unsuitable for your style. That's where my research will hopefully come in, by encouraging employers to provide a wider range of workspaces so people can choose what works best for them. Hardly the most important research in the world, but hey, it pays well and lets me study psychology all day.
>>9092297
Myers-Briggs is pop-sci, the Big 5 model is the best model of personality we have and is based on decades of research, although it's (necessarily) reductivist
>>9093603
Yeah, I already felt the unsuitability of many jobs. For complicated reasons, the field in which I studied offers no jobs that are not extremely social, and I can't do that, at all. It's destroying me. Even simple things like interviews are a lot for me, I can't withstand all the pressure and stress of constantly having to talk and deal with people. Especially when I have to show and explain my work to those people. It's annoying, and it doesn't work at all for me, which is why I was thinking of going in CS and math, or something, so I can find a more suitable work. But I don't know if I have the intelligence to do CS.
>>9093847
Take heed of what I say in the third paragraph here >>9092081, and don't just think that because your personality is a certain way now then you'll be like that forever, or you can't change. It might be far more difficult to be in social situations for you than it is naturally for other people and that sucks, but there's not much you can do about that really. Whatever job you take it's almost certain that there will be at least SOME social component, so it's important to try to put yourself in those situations and learn from them each time. It might take a while before you feel confident acting in a more extraverted manner, but it'll be worth it in the long run.
>>9088605
Agreeableness and neuroticism as the cuck feels inadequate and is self-hating.
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>>9093871
Well, it'd be nice to be able to deal a bit better with people, and I have tried, but honestly I'm not sure it's getting any better. In some ways it's getting worse. And I understand that to some degree personality is malleable, but it's also not completely so ; I thought that introversion-extroversion was linked to how the brain was processing information?
The problem is not that my current potential jobs would require social interaction - although that's still a problem, if it's minimal and limited and predictable, then I could be alright - but that they would require a lot of it, and a lot of it which would be proactive similar to what a car salesman would do in his job. And I can't deal with that, I can barely answer questions satisfactorily when someone talks to me. Yes, I could get better, but in the meantime I feel as though I wouldn't be able to do my job correctly, and not one would really want to hire me, considering most other people already have those social skills, which I lack.
> 0% extraversion
> 0% agreeableness
> 0% conscientiousness
> 100% neuroticism
> 0% openness
HOW DO YOU PEOPLE LIVE
OH MY GOD
meanwhile look at what the ideal personality looks like:
> 100% swag
> 0% luck
> 200% skill
> 1000% concentrated power of grampa's will
>>9093941
>I thought that introversion-extroversion was linked to how the brain was processing information
Probably, but everything you do is linked to your brain, it's the home of your consciousness after all. And it's constantly changing - every little bit of experience you have causes certain neural pathways to fire, and the more you use them, the more they strengthen. So although genetic predisposition and/or early experiences will definitely put you in a better/worse position than others, there's no reason why you can't improve the psychological traits you want to improve. Having a fixed mindset about this is your biggest impediment.
>the problem is not that my current potential jobs would require social interaction... but that they would require a lot of it
How much? How has an introvert found himself in a situation where he can only get hired in some sort of sales bullshit? I'd hate those sorts of jobs too, but there were enough alternatives for me. I worked as a barman for a couple of years which obviously involved a fair amount of socialising, but it wasn't too bad and it helped me get more comfortable in those sorts of situations. Like I say, the vast vast majority of jobs require a fair amount of socialising, even if it's just internally with colleagues, so these are useful skills to learn.
>>9093990
>Having a fixed mindset about this is your biggest impediment.
Perhaps, but it's difficult to see the improvements, when I fall apart internally by too much socialization, after which I need a lot of time alone doing nothing or resting, which means I don't get to do the things I enjoy outside of work.
>How much? How has an introvert found himself in a situation where he can only get hired in some sort of sales bullshit?
Well, it's a long story, but my parents wanted me to study something, which I did, and I didn't like it, but since I don't like telling others how I think or feel normally, I never told them and just stuck to it. I was to shy to say I didn't want to study that, and wanted to switch programs. I also didn't have the prerequisites for other programs so I was kinda stuck regardless.
And the job would require dealing with clients all day long, and talking to them for around 1-2h each, under constant pressure and stress, and it would also require working in a team, with other people, and trying to explain and market your services to your clients or potential clients. Essentially, you have to be proactive in discussions with your clients, trying to figure out their interests, their needs, discuss those with them, explain to them what needs to be done, etc. and it takes hours and hours of talking and interacting everyday. I can't do that, obviously. It takes me everything I got to simply go to interviews and talk for 30 minutes. Also, it doesn't pay very well, and although the salary can eventually be good, it is dependent on being good at selling your services, which I'm not.
Any anons want to rate?
> extraversion 41%
> agreeableness 78%
> conscientiousness 45%
> neuroticisim 59%
>openness 44%
How did I do? I took the 120 question one.