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Replace mensa with /pol/

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It's still accurate.
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>>9060867
>/pol/
Nigga, replace it with 4chan and it's pretty much this entire site. Holy shit, it reads like a description of a typical /sci/ thread.
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>>9060867

maybe /pol/ just isn't the place for you.
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>>9060867
this is why you should ignore every IQ thread. Most of it is circle jerking undergrads who think the world should open up to them because they happened to be 2 standard deviations above being an average idiot.
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>>9060867
This is very reminiscent of /pol/, true, but I've never seen any thread about astrology on any board I've browsed that didn't mock astrology, and believers in astrology seem to get trashed pretty much everywhere except /x/. I thought that meant society in general had moved on from it, but I still see astrology being mentioned on some bienpensant liberal airplane flight magazines. Is it just something about 4chan that rejects astrology, or am I missing something outside of /x/?
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Nobody with a working brain takes /pol/ seriously. Some people there think Trump is a time traveller for fuck's sake.
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>>9060907
/pol/ thinks religion is redpilled, that's their "astrology". They think they are so above being controlled only to subjugate themselves to the biggest form of control. and as a cherry on top, it was all created by the boogeyman they all hate, the jews
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>>9060909
My my how wrong you are
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>>9060867

>asimov goes to mensa meet-up
>wants to discuss lofty intellectual subjects with equal minds and usher in a new era of progressive utopia
>arrives at mensa gathering
>everyone there is smarter than him and bullies him for being a brainlet
>they're all conservative and into the occult
>they believe in wrong-thought concepts like natural hierarchy and aristocracy
>mfw he quits because he can't handle the bantz
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>>9060881
To be fair, it's mostly just memes. When a culture is a certain way, it encourages others to repeat facets of it, it's cyclical. Meanwhile, most Mensa fucks are just pure narcissists devoid of humour or culture.
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4chan>mensa
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>>9060895
Maybe real life isn't the place for /pol/
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>>9060867
>Naturally they (MENSA) tended to be right-wing

Really butters my bread...
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>>9061207

/pol/ is on the internet you dumb faggot
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>>9060901
This is true. Once you start doing real math, you'd laugh at the "muh IQ test" phase of youth. Granted prodigies don't have this phase.
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>>9061228
Sure, but the people that post there can't handle reality
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>>9060867
but high iq people ARE superior to low iq people.
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>>9060938
>tfw everyone who believes in natural hierarchy believes their own group is at the top
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>>9060938

That's exactly what would have happened.

The people there no doubt had no time for PC bullshit and wanted to be part of the exchange of ideas without the shit the mundanes cloak themselves in.

I used to go to the one in my city and yes, it was pretty much /pol/ with less swearing.
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>>9061309
I find this surprising. Statistically speaking, conservatives are, on average, less intelligent than liberals.
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>>9061318
because retards are conservatives too, and many liberals are sub 120 iq brainlets.
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>>9060909
My friend at one point tried to convince me to browse /pol/, claiming there was legit shit there.
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>>9061274

>tfw small-souled bugmen have been so subsumed by neoliberal agitprop that they think because natural hierarchy causes negative emotions that means it isn't true
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>>9061325
>Neoliberals don't believe in natural hierarchy
m8 we support capitalism which creates hierarchy
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>>9061318

Conservatives have greater variance in IQ in the same way men have greater variance in IQ than women. Conservatives have more retards and more geniuses.
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>>9061318
>conservatives are, on average, less intelligent than liberals

You're using simple terms there that only apply to a few issues.

Libertarians and strong nationalists were the most common amongst the political discussion group. Neither were "conservative", rather they saw what equated to the best society for the collective. Socialists and other lefties were always few and lost arguments; they'd never come back.
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>>9061328
Source? I highly doubt this. The number of great conservative thinkers is quite low compared to liberals. To the extent that conservative intellectuals do exist, most tend to be more of the libertarian, rather than social conservative type.
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>>9061327

But not too much hierarchy. Gotta fill those diversity quotas and take affirmative action to balance out the oppression keeping minorities down.
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>>9061334

>Source? I highly doubt this. The number of great conservative thinkers is quite low compared to liberals.

You're suffering from neomania. I would direct you to literally almost any great work pre-1950.
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>>9061318
People who don't need to go to Mensa meetups:
>top-tier college students
>professors and researchers in [insert STEM field]
>investment bankers
>doctors
>etc.

Most high-IQ subgroups already congregate with like-minded individuals in places like conferences, classes, or work. Who do you think is left that needs their own place to hang out with other high-IQ individuals?
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>>9061335
Meh, I consider myself a dreaded neoliberal and I don't particularly support those programs (but they don't trigger me either). Either way, hierarchy still exists as it likely always will.
>>9061342
Like who? Maybe Evola or Spengler I guess. Almost all of the great thinkers pre-1950 were left for their era. It's been that way since at least the Enlightenment.
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>>9060867
Asimov was just antisocial.
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>>9061349

>Almost all of the great thinkers pre-1950 were left for their era.

I'd say they were anti-authoritarian if anything, very concerned with the rights of the individual (right-wing). They certainly weren't collectivist (left-wing).
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>>9060914
Most of /pol/ is agnostic or atheist I think
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>>9061325
>tfw everyone who believes in natural hierarchy believes their own group is at the top and that it is certainly true
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>>9061325
>invoking the argument from negative emotions strawman
A favorite of breitcucks. Go back there, please.
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>>9061366
If that's the bar you want to set then you should move your date to the 1910s, by the 20s socialism was already quite mainstream amongst intellectuals.

But I feel you are missing a key point, throughout the 19th and early 20th century, the left generally valued liberty greatly because it served as a counter to the Metternich-esque reactionaries who valued order above all else.

After the fall of this traditional order post-1913, the focus shifted onto rich capitalists.

A classical liberal from the 1880's motivations would be much more in line with those of a present socialist than to those of say a Christian traditionalist or racial nationalist.
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>>9060914
>/pol/ thinks religion is redpilled, that's their "astrology".
the people defending religion argue that its a good unifying force and way to enforce a set of morels. which is true if you look at history, even today you can see how Islam is very good at spreading and enforcing its laws on people, its a lot better at it than governments and laws.
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>>9061274
why are the lefts memes so shit?
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>>9061274
Give us the other six reasons pls.
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>>9061413
It seems kinda gross tbqh. "Cultural Christianity" is essentially murdering your traditional culture and wearing its skin.
>Islam is better at spreading to people than governments
No it isn't. Democracy is far more contagious than Islam.
>Islam is better at enforcing laws than governments
It's better at generating lynch mobs to kills suspected deviants which means a lot of innocents die in the process, while governments operating under a firm rule of law actually convict and acquit the right people most of the time.
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>>9061415
TRIGGERED!
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>>9061366
> very concerned with the rights of the individual (right-wing). They certainly weren't collectivist (left-wing).

Your statement is loaded and false.
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>>9061413
It's also a good way to alienate minorities, suppress freedom and hinder scientific progress.
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>>9061415
Because you don't agree with them

Maybe you don't realize this, but normies think political memes in general are shit (because they aren't autistic enough like them).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRbIdaLD4Q

The Latino guy isn't an oath keeper, but all the rednecks are. This whole retarded internet war between SJWs and "alt"-righters is largely irrelevant to the world at large. No one who matters cares about memes.
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>>9061438
>No one who matters cares about memes
Have you seen Trump's Twitter? Or CNN? Hell, Hillary's campaign was trying to get into it. The shit-flinging is real when it comes to today's memes.
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>>9061472
>Trump's Twitter
Trump's twitter hardly ever has memes on it. It's mainly just him criticizing people.
>CNN
? You mean the one time they asked who 4chan was or explained what Pepe was?
>Hillary
She also tried dabbing.

Memes have little to no impact on elections and probably never will. The majority of people see them as dumb cartoons. Trump won because middle aged union democrats joined him. Do you think blue collar rednecks were swayed by Pepe?
Even amongst millennials, the most pro-meme generation, comrade sanders ran circles around Donald in popularity despite less memes. Memes are fun, but places like 4chan and Reddit seem to think they actually have an impact. Political memes are inside jokes, they aren't effective at proselytizing outsiders.
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>>9061228
>>9061207
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>>9061492
I feel your analysis is spot on, Trump won over rust belt folks with empty promises. Hillary did nothing but alienate them. Don't think memes did much. Unfortunate that Sanders dint win the primary as it would have lead to a more interesting election.
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>>9061502
Sorry but I dislike Sanders almost as much, if not more than, Trump :/

I would have preferred someone politically around the same place as Clinton except, you know, not an unlikable bitch.

The rising popularity of socialism amongst young people worries me tbqh
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>>9061505
>The rising popularity of socialism amongst young people worries me tbqh
>rising

Socialism and other forms of far-left politics have always been fairly popular among younger demographics. I don't think you'll find much difference between the politically-active far-left of today compared to that of generations past.
By the time they hit the workforce and start paying taxes, you'll likely see anarcho-socialist young adults moderate into mainstream Democrats and Republicans.
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>jew got bullied for being both a jew and a brainlet
I assume this happened to OP too?
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>>9061366
>very concerned with the rights of the individual (right-wing). They certainly weren't collectivist (left-wing)
You don't understand the left and right wings
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>>9061677
As most of americans.
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Not true I am an engineer and I think engineers are inferior IQ-wise to mathematicians
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>>9060867
No, /pol/ wouldn't be arrogant about their IQs because they have nothing to be arrogant about
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>>9061437

Yes but so is any ideology that becomes corrupt. Its important to differentiate the fact that humans are inheriently corruptible from pretty much anything, its a constant.

the merits of oral traditions Are that they grew organically over large amounts of time using various sources, teaching ourselves the meanings of virtue and evil without fully understanding them.

Ideologies are inherintly inferior to this mostly because they are concioussly craftet by one or few people, we simply are to ignorant of human nature its self to succesfully consciously find the answer.

Sorry ive put that across badly, what im essentially trying to say is how we think and how we actaully act are pretty different, religion attempts to teach us with lessons of others actions. Ideology tends to rely on the premise we understand ourselves.
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>>9060944
this. We do meme a lot.

I kind of like the idea of a 4chan group though. I like you guys.

>>9061207
this lmao
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>>9060867
This is literally what I'm feeling right now about Mensa. Joined in October, and I am definitevely quitting.
Never seen such a circlejerk, even on 4chan discords. Also, most of the vocal members are either hard conservatives or hard liberals, leading to never ending bickering and pointless subjects.

Fuck Mensans, for they fucked Mensa.
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>>9063799
>I kind of like the idea of a 4chan group though. I like you guys.

I don't like you cunt. If I ever saw you, I would beat you down for being a lefty.

>>9061207
More like /pol/ is real life
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>>9060867
Sounds more like /sci/ than /pol/ to me
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>>9061324
There is, every once in a while. It just tends to be buried by all the stormfags and kike shills.
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>>9060867
did you literally just copy a post you saw on /pol/ and post it here, forgetting to change the subject?
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>>9061593
I'm not totally sure of this, Boomers and Gen X's young activists could sell out and trade their love beads for BMWs, but I think most young people are turning to leftism since they (kind of rightfully) see the game is rigged against them and they won't really have a chance to sell out. I could be wrong, but I'm not particularly confident the status quo is in the millennials/gen Z's self-interest. Especially given the attitude of "fuck it, let's keep depleting natural resources and fronting the bill to the next generation" is starting to really catch up to the earth's ecosystems
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>>9060907

>seem to get trashed pretty much everywhere except /x/.
>Astrology not trashed the hardest of any board on /x/

What the fuck happened to, /x/? Last time I was there years ago, everyone hated anything remotely paranormal.
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>>9066246
millenial and gen Z are completely different
gen Z is the farthest right generation next to the Greatest Generation
the only reason someone can't sell out and get a BMW is if they have no marketable skills
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>>9061430

He's actually right if you use the Brit/US terminology.

Left is = more state and collectivist
Right is = less state and more individual freedom

Libertarianism/anarchy is far right in this system and Socialism is far left

The French and Euro system is different as they've never really had and individualist system; to them, left is progressive socialism/socialism-lite and right is conservative socialism/socialism-lite
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfNASlfkbA
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>>9066238
/pol/ does this all the time, because /sci/ is an easy target because we take things literally and will argue for an explanation when there doesn't need to be or will pick the meaning out of something when it's just bait.
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>>9066467
>The Gen Z is highly conservative meme
That study had non-random sampling and double barrel questions. It would be like polling /pol/ and thinking an entire generation of Americans are LARPing neonazis
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>>9060867

This trap supposedly has a math phd

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