China achieves FTL communication

quantum entanglement =/= FTL communication

>>9030066
>To perform the experiment, the Chinese team created entangled pairs of photons on the ground at a rate of about 4,000 per second. They then beamed one of these photons to the satellite, which passed overhead every day at midnight. They kept the other photon on the ground.
>Finally, they measured the photons on the ground and in orbit to confirm that entanglement was taking place, and that they were able to teleport photons in this way. Over 32 days, they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases. “We report the first quantum teleportation of independent single-photon qubits from a ground observatory to a low Earth orbit satellite—through an up-link channel— with a distance up to 1400 km,” says the Chinese team.
>So you're wrong, because they don't need to "check" both sets of entangled photons. They create photons with a specific spin, and then "trust" that the qubits are the same when they check them at the destination.
>Once they're sure entanglement is conserved, they "trust" the communicator not to foul the signal/entanglement en route.
>You just can't read.

>beamed one of the photons
>teleportation
Pick 1

>>9030069
>trusting a popular media article to explain the technical details correctly
>believing in FTL communication based on one claim from one source
>demonstrating you're too stupid to use greentext properly

>>9030080
It's the BBC you motherfucking idiot, they have science experts more qualified than you can ever dream of being

>>9030060
>Chinese researchers
Stopped reading there.
If there is anything you should learn it is that the Chinese researchers are always full of absolute shit.
The Chinese are literally incapable of being able to think on their own. They excel at memorization and solving 'book problems' because it requires no creative thought, no ingenuity, no synthesis of knowledge. They literally make up bullshit papers in China, have a circle-jerk of self-citations (bullshit researchers citing other bullshit researchers), just to come across as being on the 'cutting edge' of science. When you actually review one of these papers, you realize that it is all just a bunch of made up data and conclusions, and that the entire thing is worthless.

>>9030085
wew

>>9030085
>its the big black cock
>they wont cuck you just beliebe

>>9030089
Nice /pol/ rant, retard. You are full of shit.

>>9030097
Go home brainlet.
Real physicists are talking.

>>9030097
wrong

>>9030100
>pseudo scientific racialism
>real

>>9030107
>race
you live in a fantasy world

>>9030089
The have 1/5th's of the world population, access to pretty much every non-confidential paper out there (and maybe even some confidential ones), and always end up in the front of international "mental skills" assessments.

How would they not be a scientific powerhouse ?

>>9030107
If you were actually a researcher, in any field, then you would know and understand that the Chinese fucking suck at research. They're great people and all, but they are not innovators.

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Not to turn this thread into /pol/ or /his/ but...

I FUCKEN TOLD YOU ALL, AHAHAHAHAHA...

I remember that I have been for years warning that China would become the world's superpower again. China has always been the center of human civilization, through all of History, with its majestic empire and majestic culture. They have invented the compass, gunpowder, they have always been a people of peace, of honor and harmony. China was unified for most of History when Europe only managed to unify a mere ~60 years ago after WW2 with the EU. Only during the Industrial Revolution and the wars of the West against China (imperialism) was when the West thrived through History, (1800s to now), but now things are changing back to their natural stage and I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS. Some people claim the West is superior, but Westerners are barbarians who only care about war. Saying West is superior to China for having sacked it for some 100 years is like saying the barbarians were superior to Romans for sacking Rome. China right now has its own space station, the most powerful *AND* second most powerful super computers, and they keep making outstanding achievements day after day. Unfortunately my dumb, uncivilized and babarian Western colleagues won't accept this, and use some cherry picked video of poverty in China as an "argument". Asia, specially India and even more CHINA, have always been the center of human civilization. It comes off as no surprise that China, India, Gulf countries (former wealthy Arab caliphates), SEA (former trading kingdoms), Japan Korea etc are prospering, growing and contributing to humanity, when the West is falling on itself because of crime, stupidity, no strong culture etc. Thank you China for contributing to humanity instead of waging stupid wars like USA or destroying your own society like Europe. WAY TO GO CHINA! YOU ARE GREAT!

>>9030110
because they had the misfortune of experiencing maoist propaganda for the past 2 generations.
have you ever had the opportunity to work with chinese expats?

>>9030097
Not him, but I can confirm that this is true in Computer science. The only Chinese who aren't full of shit on IEEE are Chinese born in Canada.

>>9030110
>How would they not be a scientific powerhouse?
Because they make up 'discoveries'.
Just because they have 1/5th the world's population does not mean even half of them are educated, let alone possess doctorates.

>>9030089
>>9030109
>"excel at memorization and solving 'book problems' because it requires no creative thought, no ingenuity, no synthesis of knowledge"
This is straight out of the alt-right eugenics playbook. Kill yourself.

>>9030112
It was a decent bait, but then you mentioned India. 3/10

>>9030118
You obviously have never been to graduate school.
>kys brainlet

>implying classical object

>>9030118
you're deluding yourself.
it's easy for anyone to solve "book problems" and would be an exceptional way for an organization to inflate scores to seek extra funding/business opportunities.
get your head out of your ass

>>9030085 >>9030060
>BBC News
Big Black Cock News

>>9030085
Wee lad

>>9030128
>>9030125
>>9030123
>>9030123
>>9030094
This place sure is polluted with /pol/tards

>>9030132
>butthurt brainlet so booty blasted by benign badgering that she belittles herself with a weak nonpost

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>>9030132
You sure are a fucking idiot.
>can't come up with anything
>better call them /pol/tards
>do yor fel gud abut wonngin?

>>9030134
>>9030133
>/pol/ memes and cancer
>i am not /pol/, just a retard on his own!

>>9030136
>>9030132
i'm not sure if these posts are of sufficiently low quality to report

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>>9030136
Holy shit, this guy is legitimately fanny flustered.
>mfw

>>9030139
You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

>>9030143
in case it wasn't clear
>RACISM

>>9030143
6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

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>>9030145
Oh noes! Someone is being a race realist, better call them a RACIST because it hurt my FEELINGS!!

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>>9030149
"race realist"

>>9030152
Is that urban dictionary?
Kys if it is

>>9030085

Wew lmao

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>>9030152
>brainlet believes urban dictionary is a real source
>feels good about a narrow and idealistic view of the world
Please, for the last time, fucking kys.

>>9030060
And this once again proves that Whites, especially Anglos, are fucking worthless and burnt out.

Make way for your new masters. (aside from the Ashkenazim)

>>9030089
This is something a non top-ten student would say. Guess who dominates the MIT math team?

>>9030060
>quantum entanglement, a process where two particles react as one with no physical connection between them.

Quantum ENTANGLEMENT is a fucking physical connection. This is like this article saying "magnets make metal move with no physical connection xD le spookeee"

POPSCI RETARDS OUT OF THIS BOARD NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9030173
>thinking MIT math team is the measure of anything
Guess who dominates the national laboratories, and CERN?
(oh that's right, not the chinese)

>>9030176
correct

it's chinese and Jews

>>9030069
>millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
wew

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>>9030085

>>9030060
I hope all of you are joking but you do all know it's literally a mathematical theorem that you can't use entanglement to communicate faster than light, right? I read the BBC article and I think they are using communication in the sense of confirmation of arrival, not actual communication,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

>>9030173
>>9030176
Fermilab
Argonne
Ames
BNL
LBNL
LLNL
Oak Ridge
PNNL
PPPL
SLAC
Jefferson
Los Alamos
(CERN)

Dominated by non-chinese researchers.

>>9030204
>i take pride in the accomplishments of people with melanin levels similar to mine

>>9030208
Way to assume that everyone at all of those institutions is white.
>protip: they're not
There are collaborators from all over the world at these institutions, many from European countries, India, Korea, Japan, Russian Federation, etc. But not China.

>>9030213
Why don't you kill yourself?

>>9030214
Because I'm not Chinese.
:^)

Lmao that paper was a joke.

>>9030089
>>9030149
>>9030143
>Off-topic replies

>>9030146
It's not like your post was of any higher quality.

>>9030060
as fucking if. Total bullshit. Lamo if u belive it

>>9030213
Huh, why aren't there lots of chinese scientists in these western government funded labs doing extremely high tech research using proprietary equipment that might have uses outside of the lab??

Almost like geopolitics matters or something. (Not to flame your post in particular, I just think this thread is garbage and missing the point)

[math]x=5 \% 1\n
35\\5[/math]

>>9030186
You like krabby patties don't you squidward

>>9030069
>being too retarded to greentext

>>9030085
Unless they hire real big-dicked physicists at BBC I seriously doubt anyone is more qualified than I am. Now, kneel before me and suck my fat wiener. What you accomplish in life will never amount to my glorious contributions to physics. FAGGGOOOOOT

>>9030145
Top kek i skipped through it since im so used to it int this site

>>9030118
it's true, and regardless I think we can all agree that China is a corrupt shithole. I wouldn't trust anything coming from them.
Now go back to reading your popsci and browsing reddit.

>>9030517
With that being said, I'd rather have Chinese than pajeets in my classes. I've never seen a pajeet that didn't on a test cheat.

>quantum teleportation
>FTL communication

I can't tell whether I should be laughing my ass off or pissed at you for being so stupid.

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>mfw brainlets fall for the FTL meme again

>>9030089
Came here to post this. Not only this, but also that considering its being propagated by the commie BBC, I dont know why anyone would take it seriously

>>9030143
>>9030145
>point out there are specific traits commonly associated with a particular people
>instead of thinking critically like a person involved in science would, and realizing that even if race was a made up term, it doesnt discount the fact that people native to a particular area, which has particular cultures and beliefs, are better at some things than others

Literally just an assblasted gook. Chinese people on the internet are extremely defensive of their country, to the point where they will pretend not be Chinese and make nonsensical arguments in favour of it, just so it looks like the other person is wrong. This is because of the particularly shallow nature of ethnic Chinese, where appearance is more important than depth. This also reflects in their sciences, where they often make outright false claims of accomplishments, and rarely innovate because this requires abstract, deep thought. This is just a rule of thumb

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>>9030069
>They then beamed one of these photons to the satellite
That is to say they shone a ray of light at the satellite.
>Finally, they measured the photons on the ground and in orbit to confirm that entanglement was taking place, and that they were able to teleport photons in this way.
??????

>>9030060
>photon
Why not an apple or something

>>9030060
>he is quoting a shitstream media article

Also, this
>>9030089
chinks are a bunch of lying cheats. Everyone knows that.

>>9030111
who are the best innovators then?

>>9030517
there is no proof that creativity is genetic.

>>9030338
>still using meme arrows in 1841.
<i sure hope you folk don't do this
>yolo

>>9030694
an apple is just a collection of photons if you think about it.

>>9030145
>>9030149
Im not talking about race im talking about the culture in China.

> enter thread
> see as per people screaming "/pol/" at everyone have ruined it already
> leave thread

Just like /v/ and /tv/, you squealing children have ruined this board. Go back to the other site.

>>9030732
It definitely is not that

>>9030753
It is actually.

>>9030757
p sure apples have non-zero rest mass

>>9030764
That is because photons are in state of matter.

>>9030768
You can't just call everything a photon

>>9030769
But everything is made of photons. When matter annihilates the photons get released.

>>9030776
A better take is that everything is made of some form of energy, photons being one of them, massive particles being others

>>9030781
>Some form of energy.
E=m=photons
Energy always comes in a form. Massive particles are made out of photons.

What you're saying is equal to saying "some times energy comes in the form of sofas"

>>9030785
Massive particles are a form that energy takes. In some circumstances they will turn into photons, in others they will turn into other massive particles. There isn't much point in saying that photons or any other particle is "the one they're all made of".

>"some times energy comes in the form of sofas"
Well yeah

>>9030694
Apples weigh hundreds of degrees. Photons weigh only a few so it's easier to get them into space. The economy isn't what it used to be, I'm afraid.

>>9030796
Why not use the ultimate constituent.

>>9030060
>Entanglement
>FTL communication
No.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

>>9030060
>China

Lie to me once shame on you, lie to me twice, shame on me.

>>9030069
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases

So.....if that was 911 out of 2 million. That's 911/2000000 chance it works.

Shit, that's some really fucking shitty odds actually. Like it should have worked far more than that simply because of chance and randomness.

>>9030964
Fool me - you can't get fooled again

Well, I think we have to be very careful with the language. In this experiment you are not placing instantaneoulsy a photon from one place to another, you are just making a particle have the same state as the one in the Earth my measuring it

>>9030089

Nigga I suggest you leave your village and travel a little.

>>9030976
Why can't I use that for telecommunications?

>>9031007
You can, and indeed thats how quantum computers are based. The point that I was trying to make is that you cant teleport something through space and time (for now). You are not teleporting anything, you are just propagating a quantum state (bell state)

>>9030089
LMAO, chinese are top of the world on quantum information researches. Get your shit together faggot

>>9031009
so I *can* send information ftl? I've been told I can't even though there's quantum entanglement. I'm from /v/ and low ping time is very relevant to my interests.

>>9031036
Well, you're not sending any information at superluminic speeds really because those two particles are entangled and the measure of one determines the state of another, its like each and every particle have all the information inside as a system but only triggers a part of it when its measured.

I explain myself:

A photon can be in two spin states, 0 and 1. If you entangle that photon with another one in a bell state |S>=sqrt(p1)|00>+sqrt(p2)|11> When you measure the state of the photon that is in the Earth for example, you can get spin state 0 or 1 AND because of the entanglement (spooky action at a distance called so by Einstein) you have determined the state of the second photon in the atmosphere. This is, when the earth photon is in the state 0, the space photon turns out to be in the state 0 because of the colapse of the function wave and mutatis mutandis with 1. In this case you have the same chance to get a 0 or 1 state and so p1=p2=1/sqrt(2)

So you are not sending nothing, not information, you are just measuring the state of a quantum system. All this is related to EPR paradox and Bella inequalities so i encourage yoy to check it out

>>9031116
but if I measure it in a sequence that'd result in a tcp packet, will the entangled photon not also display said packet?

I'm more looking for a yes or no here on instantaneous communication and you fuckers keep giving me math instead. I'm not gonna care about your squirts unless we're playing splatoon.

>>9030085
BIG

BLACK

REDDIT

SPACING

>>9030097
>someone states a fact
>ass blasted Chinaman calls him /pol/
Really makes you think.

>>9031116
>If you entangle that photon with another one in a bell state
How does one entangle photons?

>>9031119
im giving you the fundamental quantum mechanics to understand this shit man you should me fucking thankful for that you cuck. You cant fucking make computing shit if you dont know nothing about quantum physics

>>9031140
there are different methods to do it but the simplest one i know and i did in the laboratory was splitting a laser beam in two with a slit lattice and making them encounter again with an interferometer

>>9031119
The answer is no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

When you look at the entangled particle, you only know that the other particle will have the same state as your own particle. This entanglement collapses however as you observe the state. As a result, you can't communicate as the other person doesn't know if you already observed your particle or not.

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>>9030109
Human Skin Color is a "Social Construct" Just like Apple Skin Color.

An apple can be Ripe Red, Unripe Green or Rotten Brown.

But you can just ignore the Apple's Color.

Eating Unripe Green or Rotten Brown pretending in your mind that It taste like a Red Apple.

Because after all according to SJW Logic the Apple Taste is a "Social Construct" & nature "don't matter".

If you feel that Unripe Green Apple taste too Acid, or Rotten Brown taste like Shit, Then you are "Racist & Apple-Phobic Bigot" & you are forced to eat them liking or not.

Or Color-Blind.

>>9031433
I would say this is apples and oranges but that's a bit on the nose.

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>>9030060
>China
fake

>>9030152
I like the """subtle""" use of sexual reward in the example given.

Literally arguing with holes

>>9030561
the chinks literally rioted because the teachers tried to stop them from cheating

>>9030111
Because they do crap research.

Not for any racial reasons -- I have no idea why it is, really. But look at their fucking "work" in paleontology. It'll make you cry. Or laugh. Or something.

>>9031014
>being at the top of a dungheap of >>>/x/ grant chasing bullshit

WEW
E
W

>>9030089
Its true sadly the Japanese do this too well at least in the undergraduate level

where is the peer review?

>>9032146
That's because their academics are pressured to give results, like, to have a specific number of publications per year. The quality usually does not matter.

>>9030060
>Quantum entanglement is FTL

Fucking brainlets, to communicate the results of the last measurement in the process, you need to use a classical method therefore no FTL.

I get that QE is not a method of communication, sure, makes sense.

But what is happening when one observes the spin of an electron of an entangled pair?

The wave form collapses for both, despite being millions of miles apart.

How? Is 'something' being transmitted FTL here?

>>9032389
Nothing is being transmitted at FTL, it's just the wave function collapses instantaneously when someone measures one of the entangled pairs.

>>9032464
In which case, what is a wave function

>>9030069
>>9030085
Fuck off retard
Since your knowledge of physics comes from Wikipedia articles here's one for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

>>9032580
meme magic

>>9030089
T. Someone who isnt involved in any academic field

>>9032580
In quantum mechanics the wave function describes the probability of finding a particle somewhere in it's matter wave. The square of the wave function gives the probability of finding the location of a particle in a given area.

>>9032897
That doesn't describe how the collapse of one wave function causes the collapse of another

>>9032924
You didn't ask how the collapse of one wave function causes the collapse of another.

>>9032927
That's precisely what I asked if you followed the post chain

>>9032935
Sorry, I'm not this Anon >>9032464

The truth is that some kind of information may be being transmitted superluminally or the information may be embedded in some way in the entangled particles at the time of entanglement. I'm not sure if either case has been proved experimentally yet.

>>9030069
How does one go about "keeping the other photon on the ground"?

Also, what is the procedure for creating entangled pairs of photons anyway?

>>9032924
Hi, physicist speaking. An entangled pair of photons has ONE wave-function, it's just not spatially continuous. Entanglement expresses that the wave-function is non-separable, i.e. you can't write them as a product.

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>>9030202

>>9030112
The Chinese are friendly to whites and hate darkies. At this point I'm okay with it.

>>9032952
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_parametric_down-conversion
Probably this, considering they're not making them efficiently.
>SPDC is stimulated by random vacuum fluctuations, and hence the photon pairs are created at random times. The conversion efficiency is very low, on the order of 1 pair per 1012 incoming photons.[2] However, if one half of the pair (the "signal") is detected at any time then its partner (the "idler") is known to be present.

>>9033019
I get the gist of how the entangled photon pairs are made (fire a laser through a crystal, rely on "random vacuum fluctuations" to produce a coupled photon pair), though the wikipedia explanation leaves a lot to be desired (e.g. how and why vacuum fluctuations come into this, seeing as it's basically explained as absorption and emission).

What I don't get is how in the name of fuck they are able to precisely direct one of the photons to hit a fucking satellite while they direct the other photon towards <something>, and also how they even keep the grounded photon from being absorbed, unless they loop it through some fiber cable or some shit.

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>>9030060
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases

>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases

>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases
>they sent millions of photons and found positive results in 911 cases

>>9030069
It's not faster than light, it just appears that way
>m theory

>>9031416
what if both sides are constantly measuring? I feel like you've attempted to math something out of existence rather than just performing what should be a straight-forward test.

>>9032943
well it isn't superluminal if one considers the entangled particles as residing on the same point in spacetime. Like a very tiny particle wormhole where the space is joined only inside the particle.

I don't know if it's misguided hubris on the behalf of /pol/tards or stealth Chinese posters downplaying this.

But the fact is if you live in the western world you should be fucking terrified China is capable of this.

Even if you don't believe they are capable of pulling of such a feat the fact they are at least ATTEMPTING this and putting resources to do it should be putting you edge.

I've said this other threads and I'll say it here, the Chinese do not give a flying fuck about what you think of them. You can call them drones with no souls who copy and cheat at everything they do. But they gunning for top world power status and are making deals with every country the west has fucked and trampled on.

Do not get complacent in your position. I'm not saying you should fear and hate them but if you care about the west you should not dismiss news like this.

>>9033365
>transmits a light particle at the speed of light to a satellite
>makes sure it's entangled so that you can confuse brainlets to make them think it's not still travelling at light speed
>the West should be care about this, when their militaries still have superior technology and a much greater field of command
It would be appreciated if you spread your misinformation elsewhere.

>>9033365
>Do not get complacent in your position. I'm not saying you should fear and hate them but if you care about the west you should not dismiss news like this.
I'm glad China is carrying the torch. The west might not be in the position to carry out research in a few decades.

>>9031119
can you know what result you're going to get before you measure?
and how are you going to tell the other end in which sequence the photons are to be measured?

>>9030112
Most of their economical proficiency to do almost any of the shit they do comes from, what is essentially, human suffering through slave labour and trading those good through the US.

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>quantum entanglement

>>9031433
>Different species of "apples".
>Thinks that the color of the skin makes up for a relevant genetic difference.
>Thinks races exist
Just look at people that live in high altitude zones like in Tibet or the Andes, and do some comparisons.
Also, the fact that "race" isn't considered as a category in taxonomy should make you realize just how stupid you all "racist realists" or whatever the hell it is, are

>>9034407
>can I know the results.
Sure, this is basic engineering stuff. You make a truth table with all the possible results and there you are.
>tell the other end in which sequence the photons are to be measured.
I'm not, they're going to be measuring at a constant rate, just like me. Then depending on the result we measure again at half intervals for data.

I feel like /sci/ is not trying very hard with protocol development.

>>9031140
Spontaneous parametric down conversion is popular nowadays

>>9030085
Great bait mate i rate eight/eight

>>9030969
t. W

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>>9035508

Races as distinct and sharply delineated categories dont exist, however this exists <<

we are certainly not all "one race, the human race" either

>>9030969
YEAAAAAHHHHH

>>9031116
Entanglement produces an opposite spin in the unmeasured entangled photon, not the same spin. 0 &1, not 0 & 0.

>>9038076

No

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_state

read just a bit before embarrassing yourself in front of /sci/

>>9030748

they are the ultimate irony.

I can't wait to talk to my grand children on mars. Oh wait I'm still a virgin loser.

>89iq stormweenies and plebbitors shitting up another discussion with their edgy opinions
Just move this thread to /pol/ already.

> one shot at life
> have nothing better to do than to sit in a dark lab and play with laser light and detectors
> Not even knowing able to describe a photon without using all kinds of logical fallacies
> FTL, no causality, many worlds (some of them having me live a normal life)

How is this different from manic behavior? Why not start by finding what a photon is and how to describe it without violating conservation of energy, Maxwell's equations, Fourier theory and superposition?

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>>9040207
>he thinks you can describe anything without using logical fallacies

>have two identical boxes
>put a red card in one and a green card in the other
>send one of the boxes into space
>open it
>"holy shit, a green card, therefore the cars on the ground is red, therefore FTL teleportation"

>this is what entanglement babbies actually believe

>>9040426
are you this retarded or just pretending?

>>9030112
>China was unified for most of history
Hahahaha are you fucking joking?

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>>9032991 >>9030112 >>9030060

Adolf Hitler said in 1936:

Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment.

I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves.

They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own.

They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong.

Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan#To_the_Chinese_and_Japanese

>>9040451
Not that anon but its actually a pretty solid analogy. To get entangled photons they split them using a type of crystal. Each of the resulting photons has half the frequency and due to conservation of angular momentum each has opposite spin. You can give me your retarded math proofs all day but any reasonable person would come to the conclusion that each entangled photon has the spin that it had since they were split, we just cant know what that spin is until we measure it. From that measurement we can infer that the other photon has the opposite spin.

>>9030718
I heard that Chink parents will even help their kids cheat in high school and college. They don't even care if their kids learn anything it's just about grades and status.

>>9030110
China and North Korea have a disproportionate number of instances of cheating on exams. Standardized tests scores are a poor metric when not everyone is playing by the rules.

Pretty much anyone working in academia looks at publications by Chinese research groups with a high degree of scrutiny. Their research isn't always trash, but there's a lot of refuse to dig through to find legitimate papers with repeatable results.

I don't say this to imply that the Chinese aren't intelligent or suck at doing research, but there's a reason why they're still a country of dislocated peasants slowly dying in polluted rivers and clouds of thick smog. Their culture is one of doing whatever it takes to get ahead in life - whether that be ripping off western intellectual property, cooking dogs alive, harvesting shark fins, providing no assistance to children/adults dying in the street, dumping mass quantities of toxic waste directly into major water sources, making fake cities with vinyl-sticker windows on all of the buildings, etc. China is a pretty fucked up place desu senpai. Except for Hong Kong.