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SpaceX Falcon 9 BulgariaSat launch in four hours, followed by a 10x Iridium launch from Vandenberg on the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mLi-rRTh8
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>>8991628
>ULA boat standing by
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>>8991653
fuck you ULA. Vulcan can't save you now!
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So, where are they going to get all that water? Mars doesn't have enough ice on it to make that much ocean. They'd need to crash a few 100k ice comets into it to get that much water.
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>>8991680
Just break up Ceres above it
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>>8991628
This shit's getting kind of boring.
Next notable footage will be falcon heavy with 3 fucking landings, or a stage failing its landing on ground.
The rest, we've already seen.
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>>8991628
>BulgariaSat
WE WUZ 6th COUNTRY IN SPEIS 'N SHIET
Really hope it doesn't blow up.
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>>8991628

I live near Vandenberg. I should go check it out since I have press credentials. lol
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Launch will fail during second stage flight.

Screencap this post.
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>>8991785
inb4 fog.
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>no technical webcast

FUCK YOU SPACE X
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>>8991802
Wat?
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>>8991802
Yeah I noticed they stopped that last launch.
The reason I watch it is because of m/s.
Also I can't fucking stand the anchors if it's not the old guy.
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>>8991805

Technical webcast; just the raw launch footage with coms, no cringy, dipshit announcers who talk over what I actually want to see. I don't need someone talking to describe what I am looking at. I know just fine what the systems and flight dynamics are. I don't need some PR degree idiot bumbling about max Q or separation 10 seconds before or after it happens.

I also don't want to hear a bunch of manchildren from non-engineering departments clapping, screaming and hollering every time something happens.

They have absolutely no class.

>>8991818

What this fella said.
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spacex very badass not gona lie
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>>8991687
Like that will really help at all. Ceres is really tiny with only a bit of an ice mantel.
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>>8991840
He's an old guy.
It means he's done this shit forever.
I don't remember for which company, but he's basically been covering launches for 20 years.
It means he's composed, doesn't get hipped, and doesn't stumble on words.
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>>8991802
No wonder I couldn't find it.

>>8991840
>"As you can see here, there's a rocket launching...."
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>>8991818
>not wanting the Ron Burgundy anchor
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Bulgarianfag here.

While we were with Russia we were sending cosmonauts in space and now we're stuck with shitty tincans and by a scummy mafia private owner at that.

Fuck you america for ruining the world.

I hope this blows up and buries nasa and your country while at it.
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>>8991855
Please tell me that's fake.
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>>8991888
>That pedo mustache
my sides. Why would anyone wear that on his face.
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>>8991948
It's real. Please don't remind me.
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>>8991946
stop whining and go watch today's Soyuz-Volga launch intstead, if you prefer the glorious Soviet space architecture. It should be going off at 18:10 UTC.
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>>8991888
I miss him
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>>8991946
Where the fuck is Bulgaria anyways?
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10 minuten fags
Post rare Elons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPZ-uWirIN4
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Delayed 1 hour
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>>8991946
Bulgarians are not white.
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>>8991982
Where its been since the 7th century.
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>>8991991
>>8991987
shit
lets talk von Neumann while we wait
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPZ-uWirIN4
How many of you are gonna get tech enhancements?
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>>8991946
do your people wear adidas and squat?
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>>8992008
Everything east of switzerland is some level of slav
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soyuz launch in 10 seconds
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>>8992014
hwat???
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>>8992007
What the fuck was that conclusion?
>Muh aliums may be numerical beings.
>read a book
>wait it doesn't exist.
Just shut the fuck up then?
Give me back my ten minutes.
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>>8992014

where can stream
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>>8992042
>read a book
Its write, brainlet
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>>8992046
it's classified so no stream
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb
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>Elon Musk @elonmusk
>Falcon 9 will experience its highest ever reentry force and heat in today's launch. Good chance rocket booster doesn't make it back.

Sounds like we're in for a show today!
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>bulgarian satellite

I just know it's going to explode.
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>>8992058
Noice. Somehow successful launches has become boring. And i hate myself for thinking that
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>>8991802
>no technical webcast
Why was this allowed?
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it's happening
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Play that SpaceX techno, white boy
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T - 15 minutes

>>8992115
Dream On, Mars Man
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What is that hair style called?
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Mars on, dream man
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>>8992115
Dream on, mars man
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So this will be the first rocket to launch from two different states. (I think the other one launched from both 40 and 39A and was the first to launch from two different pads.)
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>BulgariaSat
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"Extra challenging" landing? I thought this sat was supposed to be rather light?
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>>8991774
second reflight though
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>>8992131
i remember this launch
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>>8992132
Satellite is going geostationary
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>inb4 HOLD HOLD HOLD
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>>8992132
Earth is on the short side of its elliptic trajectory, which means the rocket has to compensate for the relatively higher velocity the planet it moving at
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>>8992132
The sat might be light but they're launching to a geostationary orbit.
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Give me a quick rundown on this launch.
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>Bulgaria
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>BulgariaSat-1 is the first geostationary communications satellite in Bulgaria's history
>designed, produced, and tested in California
>launched by SpaceX in Florida
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I don't see the old guy.
This will definitely blow up.
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>>8992135
I miss those days. These treads were great back then
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>Strongback
DYEL?
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Betting three (You)s on the rocket blowing up withing 15 seconds of launch
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>>8992146
>pootin
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>>8992152
Aparrently they do
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>>8992153
I'll give you one as a consolation prize.
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>>8992150
Early days always more fun for most things, was nail biting seeing the early Falcon landing attempts too
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Scrub
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>>8992161
have a (you) for bamboozling me
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>>8992160
Actually hang on a minute, now I think about it i think the landings weren't streamed live
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>>8992150
Dude it's fucking awesome that rocket recoveries are becoming normal now
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Liftoff!
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>8992153
Nope
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Liftoff
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Passed MaxQ, so if it would go to hell it would probably have gone by now
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Looking good so far. I'm going to predict the landing a failure due to the GTO launch though.
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Stage Separation
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>That stage sep

Every time
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>>8992173
Has F9 ever had a second stage failure?
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When will they bring back John Asperger?
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>>8992177
Wasn't the big bada-boom caused by a failed strut in the second stage?
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>tfw MOAB's have the same gridfins
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>>8992177
CRS-7 and AMOS-6
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These livestreamed landings never get old.
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Man S1 is hauling ass, grid-fins going to go cherry
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>>8992182
No.
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If they launch and land TWO FUCKING ROCKETS in a single weekend it's over

It's completely fucking over.

Elon won
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>>8991946
>Russianshillfag here*

Get back to scrubbing my floors, you absolutely disgusting commie mongrel.
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>these fucking announcers

i hope they crash their teslas on the way home
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Dan those grid fins are LIT
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First stage LOS
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S1 RUD, screencap this
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>dem burning grid fins tho
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>>8992189
Where were you when Elon BTFO Bruno and Bezos once and for all?
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>>8992189
>Why can't I hold all these rockets.jpg
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RIP
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Wait for it
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GROANS

IT CRASHED
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NOT RUD
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DAT collective awwwww

Not good
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(CLAPPING INTENSIFIES)
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Success! TOUCHDOWN!
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FAKE
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VICTORY

ULA ON SUICIDE WATCH
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holy shit, it's the leaning booster of Taicom all over again
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damn i thought it was going to miss to the left. Looks tilted though
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so much drama
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LANDED.

Although does anyone else think the legs look a little wonky compared to how they normally do after landing?
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SHITS LEANING
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>cuts away rocket in air
>cuts back rocket on platform
Was Space X an inside job?
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LANDED AWW YEA LOOK AT THAT LEAN
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>>8992188
I meant the one at maxQ, not the one on the pad.
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>>8992203
pretty off-center tho


also why did the fuckers disable the ability to scroll back in time?
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Holy fuck dat angle.
It must have come down at a 30° angle or so.
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>That camera cut

I'm on to you Musk
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>>8992214
there is a honeycomb crush section that is designed to give in under high load. So the leaning nature isn't actually bad for it - they just replace the honeycomb
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Looks like they finally got a good reason to use the oompa roomba
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>>8992214
yeah, and it totally looks like it's tipping to the left
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>implying it didnt crash and while the stream was frozen they didnt put a fake rocket on the ship
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>>8992219
Thank you based Elon!
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>>8992214
The landing legs have a "crush zone" that crumbles is the load is high enough. This has happened before.
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>>8992198
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looks prettty gud
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SOO... YOU BE SAYIN... E WUZ SPACE COLONIZERS N SHIEEEEET?
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>>8992221

Not off-center, it just slid. This happens every time it's on the ship because the fucking thing is in 10 foot swell, always.
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>>8992214
There's crush cores in the legs incase it comes down hard.
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>>8992219
Thank you based Elon!
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>>8992219
Thank you based Elon
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>>8992219
Thank you based Elon

>>8992224
I figured it was something like that, but since that section crushed than it was definitely a harder landing than usual.
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>>8992188
Yes
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>Dat flying water before the cutoff.
3G deceleration down to the deck.
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>>8992242

I am going to guess based on the frozen frame right before it that the drone ship was literally cresting a wave as the rocket did its suicide burn into it.
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>>8992214
Safety feature. Like when a car crashes, you want metal to fold to spread out impulse of landing so that the landing pneumatics don't rupture or the bolts/welds holding the legs in place don't get ripped off.
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time for the Roomba!
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Any word on the fate of the fairings?
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Anybody got a good screencap of the landed booster?
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>>8992251
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>>8992233
saved
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>>8992247
what the everloving fuck is this?
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>>8992247
Do we know what's that all about?
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>>8992221
>disable the ability to scroll back in time
"Remember, no scrubs."
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>>8992254
Hehe, gonna need some new crush-cores on that one yeah
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>>8992247
It's not being used for this mission.
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>>8992256
>>8992257


crawls out from cover and secures the first stage
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>>8992254
>dat gangsta lean
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>>8992259
Where is the crushing? The legs look alright on that picture
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>>8992256
The booster needs to be secured to the deck. It's too dangerous for human workers so they made a gigantic Roomba for the task.

It will weld the landing legs to the deck to secure the booster.
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>>8992256
>>8992257
Theory has it will autonomously secure the landed rocket so that personal don't have to get on the boat until the rocket is safed.

Theory because it has yet to be used/tested
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>>8992263
Ok, that is something i want to see in action
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>>8992266
The crush cores are on the inside
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Isn't this going to bulgaria? Why is the trajectory over Africa? How does it get to bulgaria?
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>>8992268
Does it actually weld the feet? I thought it just grabbed onto the bottom of the rocket to lower the center of mass and keep it from sliding around as much.
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>>8992221
Yeah, WTF.
Is jewtube jewing them?
Hence the lack of technical webcast?
Maybe they should just go back to Livestream.
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>>8992266
Crushing is on the leg positioned away from the camera, we can tell because that is the direction stage 1 is leaning
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Someone needs to choke-fuck the person responsible for the music though..
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>>8992275
no, thats a setting they can adjust
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>>8992273
Maybe? I just assumed since the original plan was to weld the rocket to the deck that that is what the roomba would do.
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>>8992272
Round and round it goes.
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>>8992281
Well, that's a stupid setting to have?
Why would you even?
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>>8992247
Do you think they ever lost a booster post landing because it tipped?
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>>8992291
I think it happened once? Resulting in an explosion. I might be remembering that incorrectly though
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>>8992277
I think a person with this kind of taste might enjoy that actually
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>>8992272
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>>8992291
There was one time where one of the legs didn't lock properly.
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>>8992291
Never happened.
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>>8992292
that hardly "landed" though. It came in so fast that it ripped of two legs and fell to the side when the RCS ran out of nitrogen
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>>8992292
Wasn't exactly post landing. More during the landing
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>>8992292
Yes one they landed a booster and one of the legs failed to lock due to ice build.up and it tipped.
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>>8992292
I know that one of the early landings tipped but It was immediately after the engine turned off so I'm not sure if it counts. I do know though that Elon has mentioned a few boosters have come dangerously close to sliding off the edge of the deck before the ground crew boarded.
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>>8992291
>>8992297
Best vid I could find on short notice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVSZdsAq4Bo
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/878335496413265920
>only a few hours
The future is here and it's reusable
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Fun watching the projected trajectory adjust live on the map during the second burn, just like KSP.
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>>8992308
the rest of the rockets still needs thousands of hours of manpower before it can fly again
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I did enjoy the shot if the exhaust hitting the water.
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Cool that the actor for Sam in Supernatural works for SpaceX now
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>>8992312
i thought it would miss the barge at that point

also can't they get a fucking wire connection from the barge to a ship a bit out so they don't constantly loose feed? Fibre optic cables are used to steer torpedos since decades
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>>8992311
For a Block 3 Falcon 9.
Block 5 is supposed to have a 24 hour turnaround time.
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>>8992219
THANK YOU BASED ELON
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Where the fuck is this rocket flying to? Why is it floating around Africa?
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That stage's gonna be a bitch to recover.
I'm not sure they'll get clearance to bring it back in port.
They may have to ditch it.
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>>8992219
Thank you based Elon
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>>8992317
no. It's not worth the effort to run fiber many kilometers out to sea, just so fucking fanboys like you can enjoy an uninterrupted video stream.
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>>8992317
The barge is like a thousand miles off-shore...
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was it reused 1st stage?
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>>8992322
To space, where the fuck do you think it is going?
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>>8992333
Shouldn't it be floating somewhere around Europe?
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>>8992332
Yes, second reused core.
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>>8992318
Not 24 hour turnaround time, 24 man-hours for refurbishment crew members.
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>>8992322
It's gonna change inclination on it's own thrusters at apogee, where it need less propellant.
Geostationary can't be anywhere else than equatorial anyways.
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Super-synchronous orbit, that's news to me.
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>>8992331
>>8992330
Anon meant just float a fibre optic a few km to the ships standing by with crew to board after a successful landing. Not wiring the barge to ground
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>>8992337
Close enough, still very impressive and game changing.
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>>8992330
>>8992331
so you run 400$ worth of single use fibreoptic cable to a dinky with a bit of comms equipment?
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>>8992342
impressive but not game changing
they will never refly a falcon 9 booster within a month, let alone 24 hours
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>SUNDAY

I feel like driving out to Vandenburg
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Damn, I was so sure it was kill when I saw water flying around from exhaust.
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>>8992346
Considering it takes around a year to build a new Falcon nine not having to build the first stage for every launch is pretty huge.
>>8992348
I thought it was doomed too from it coming in with too much horizontal speed.
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>>8992346
>Having a fleet of ~12 cores they can refly withing 6 month.
>Vs 1 core they can refly every 2 weeks.
Same fucking thing.
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>>8992341
the barge has to move. A few km nearby is well within the debris zone if anything goes wrong.

>>8992344
Anon, it's gonna be far more expensive than $400, given that it's hundreds of kilometers downrange. Torpedos and ROVs don't have tethers that long. Plus that could jeopardize the landing. Again, it's just not worth it for stupid fan boys like you.
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Friendly reminder that reused rockets have a 0% failure rate so far, slowly approaching statistical significance
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>>8992362
They also have 100% landing record, on a sample of 2.
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>>8992359
i think you misunderstand me. They have the comms equipment anyways, just put it on a seperate ship and link it to the barge via a fibreoptic cable
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Nope. Please don't do that again. Just use Falcon heavy instead.
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>>8992368
not worth the effort. They'll get the footage off of the onboard cameras anyways
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>>8992372
>can watch pretty much any sports event and kids streaming shitty games live
>can't watch rocket science life
i hate the 21st century
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I hope we get the footage once it gets back.
Must be fun seeing a rocket slide on the deck.
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>>8992383
>could've had landing boosters more than 20 years ago but the soviets had to collapse
it's not fair
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>>8992383
>yfw we might actually see this beast lift off and land in our lifetime


the day this baby launches I'm buying a ticket to America. Wouldn't want to miss this.
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>>8992395
THICC
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I hope booster-kun makes it home safe.
Looks like his leg is hurting.
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>>8992386
yep
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>>8992386
Energia was nice as a booster, but it didn't really have any payload.
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>>8992424
It did. It was gonna boost a soviet space battle laser.
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>>8992386
>zenith booster flying to this day
2nd best rocket in the world, maybe 3rd
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>>8992427
There's another booster out there that doesn't have payloads.
I guess it's gonna go the same way.
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>>8992219
>rare Pepe
>appears only when falcon 9 lands
You need some new Pepes, memelord.
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>>8992431
>>8992431
But Energia did have payloads, pic related. That other booster is so expensive, that they can't afford to build payloads...
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>>8992254
Careful!!
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>>8992714
to bad it didn't get to orbit, that thing was really cool
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>>8991687
Ceres would be better used as a moon for Mars.>>8991680 oort cloud and kupier belt objects.
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>>8992377
The only reason for this is because congress doesn't like the idea of SpaceX landing rockets in football stadiums.
>>
>>8992954
Give it 5 years, the next superbowl will be lit as fuck
>>
>>8992943
>oort cloud and kupier belt objects.

Of course, it is just that I don't think they ever thought it through, judging by the things Musk has said in interviews about just using nukes.
>>
When is Blue Origin launching something? I want to see some new rockets.
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>>8993589
2020
>>
>>8993587
the logistics of moving something from the kuiper belt or ort cloud into the orbit of mars is, um, astronomical. its possible but that track of thinking is relatively waaaaayy in the long term
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>>8992147
>it's not your house if you didn't build it yourself
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>>8993589
2019
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Enjoy
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new waffles
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>>8995068
Titanium waffles no less. We may get better reentry footage on GTO missions because the paint won't be burning off the gridfins and impacting the camera.
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>>8991628

Will Michael be there this time?
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>will be in Florida June 27- July 3
>next KSC spacex launch will have no landing
JUST
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>>8995191
Don't worry, Intelsat isn't launching by July 3rd anyway. Almost certainly not before July 10th.
>>
>>8992042
>>8992048
yea I want a sci fi book about that concept now, it's cool
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>>8995068
New fins look badass.
>>
11 hours left
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T- 2 Hours, will it blow or will it go?
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Falcon's got some talons now boys.
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>>8995068
how the fuck can those things steer a rocket?
>>
>>8996150
Watch the stream and find out.
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>>8996160
they seem so small relative to the rest of the rocket
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>>8996150
Ever tried to put your hand out of the window while driving? And feel how you can "steer" up and down? Like that, only much more $$$$$$
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>>8996163
At hypersonic speed they provide a fuckload of force. It's like ramming through molasses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8
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>>8996150
by redirecting airflow

they are not a new invention
>>
>>8996187
>one of us! one of us!
>>
whats so hard or expensive about manufacturing titanium?
>>
>>8996336
Has to be done in a vacuum. If you try to forge hot titanium in air it burns.
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MUSIC
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Music has started on the webcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tIwZg8F9b8
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Why no techcast? Fucking Elon.
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The fog is real at Vandy
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USA USA USA USA
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Weather looks shite?

Is it really clear to launch in these conditions?
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>>8996438
They said weather is good.
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>>8996438
It's not about fog, the parameters care about windspeed.
>>
Can't see shit.
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>>8996443
high altitude wind speed
>>
Do it, faggot!
>>
Go for launch!
>>
Holy shit that fog
>>
They are releasing the chemtrails!
>>
CHEMTRAILS FROM ROCKETS NOW ? WTF
>>
i really want to watch as it re-enters, gonna look real cool coming into the clouds
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BOOSTBACK IS THE DAB OF SPACESHIPS DEBATE ME!
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UFOs spotted
>>
These fucking booster acrobatics will never cease to amaze me.
>>
Why the change of material on landing fins?

(Al to Ti?)
>>
N O M I N A L
O
M
I
N
A
L
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>>8996486
Al is shit
>>
a cable channel needs to pick up the spacex video streams. my tv's youtube function keeps wanting to not work during spacex launches.
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>>8996486
Better resistance to heat I assume
>>
Oh look, more fisheye lenses. You globies will never learn.
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>>8996486
To stop them from catching on fire
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>>8996486
yes; used to be aluminium with ablative coating, which got fiery and had to be replaced.
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>>8996486
they don't need an ablative coating now. Can last for multiple launches with no maintenance.
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>>8996477
To high for bird.
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>>8996486
Ti fins don't need heat coating or refurbishment.
>>
>Just Read the Instructions

Love it.
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>>8996486
Aluminum was a pretty dumb choice in the first place.
>>
Dat wicked shimmy
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>>8996486
>>
holy fuck that 1st stage
>>
NOT A PERFECT LANDING

RUINED
>>
brainlet here, while i appreciate the engineers, builders and math boffins, its the AI coders that are truly awesome haha : )
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X marks the spot
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TOUCHDOWN
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It stuck the landing!
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Such a beautiful way to reuse a rocket.
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HOLY FUCKING GEEBUS

THIS IS BECOMING ROUTINE
>>
Impressive
>>
Good work everyone
>>
I love how it just plopped down
>>
Pretty big waves out there
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>>8996510
Mostly they use aluminum where they can so that we can have a good argument about how to pronounce it.
>>
>>8996522
Thank you based Elon!
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>>8996517
You mean the controls engineers. Code monkeys don't do shit.
>>
The video feed was solid this time. Glad i stayed up for this.
>>
Oh boy live commentary from the webcast diversity hires can't wait.
>>
If I bought myself a drone ship, what would be the best way to attract a rocket to land on it?
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>>8996537
give it an autistic name and paint a big X on it
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>>8996537
you have to paint the big X
>>
He did it, the absolute madman.
>>
it looks so eaasy wow
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>>8996527
Amelinum. Nie pomalujesz.
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>>8996537
INTERCEPTION
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>>8996522
>>
Is this music getting weirder?

Must be interference from DRONE ship.
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>mfw ULA on suicide watch as Falcon Heavy is almost ready to launch
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check out those riffles on the new waffles

"improves control force" according to Elon
>>
>>8996554
Just about every commercial launch provider is dropping a brick in the bowl. ESA is fast tracking Ariane 6 and that partial re-use capability, ULA is going to duct-tape some parachutes to their engines
>>
>>8996557
also a bit slower deployment according to the commentary
>>
>>8996560
Are they actually doing any work on either of those things

It would really be a waste of time doing that, they can't compete with reusable 1st stages

If they are doing 50 launches a year before Ariane 6 flies once, what market will exist for ESA?
Naturally they will have years of delays there too
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>>8996560
At least Tory is a cool guy and genuinely seems to care.
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>>8996566
He posts on friggin reddit
>>
>>8996553
the intermission music is reminding me of Jean Michel Jarre.
>>
>>8996567
Yeah, he gives a lot of pretty interesting insight into his work and the company's plans. It's pretty neat for a CEO to do that.
>>
>>8996560
i think this is the best argument for the idea of re-usability. There have been a lot of discussions about the viability on this board, but the best indicator should be that everyone from ULA to Ariane Space is announcing plans to go the same way, or at least trying partial re-use.
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubercle_effect

if you're wondering why the new grid fin shape is how it is
>>
>>8996572
also, everyone is finally developing a methane engine. (Still boggles the mind that we have had 50 years of the Space Age without using this cheap fuel.)
>>
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>>8996565
SpaceX and Blue Origin are both going to leave them in the dust, and that's even with BO being 3-5 years behing SpaceX.
>>
>>8996580
>blue origin
>doing anything but burning Bezo's money.
>>
>>8996584
and they can continue it for decennia, since he has so much of it. They'll make it.
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>>8996574
>The effect was discovered and analyzed by Frank E. Fish in the late 2000s
hmm
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>>8996584
brug, bezos is so rich it makes my teeth hurt. he's worth like 75 billion dollars. He could fully fund NASA at its current levels for 3 years and still be filthy rich.
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>>8996580
>BO
>3-5 years behind
More like 3-5 decades
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>>8996589
85 billions
85 000 000 000 $ and soon that will be 100+
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>>8996587
>>8996574
>a recently discovered phenomenon
Golf balls have been making use of this phenomenon for centuries
>>
>>8996589
>inb4 they launch a combined Whole Foods / amazon store in the first new glenn launch, and they only livestream it on the WaPo front page
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>>8996584
He's filthy rich.
>>
>>8996580
>Blue Origin
Armadillo Aerospace would be ahead of Blue Origin if Carmack didn't run out of money
>>
>>8996565
there are other factors. ariane hast just one pad and they have their factory on the other side of the planet so alot of logistics problems. that being said ariane 6 is targeting a launch every 10 days. quite the launch rate and a cool rocket
>>
>>8996580
I will never not laugh at that image
>>
>>8996603
no, they have not, not on control surfaces.
>>
>>8996608
someone post the rocket emporium one
>>
>>8996605
All problems are not solved by throwing money at it.
>>
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>>8996612
Not all problems but it solves a shit ton of them.
>>
>>8996608
I know what you mean, same here.
>>
>those texture wrapping errors at the pole

I'm getting nightmare flashbacks to using cinema4d and trying to hide wrapping errors just like that, garrrrrrhhhhh
putting a rectangular texture on a sphere is hard as balls
>>
>>8996612
Money helps it a lot though. Rockets are expensive.
>>
ULA: 'Jury's out' on rocket reusability
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2017/04/05/ula-jurys-out-rocket-reusability/100046572/

Can't wait for these fucks to bankrupt they could have led us to a golden age of space exploration but decided that hanging of the government teat and giving zero effort to improve was the way forward.
>>
>>8996624
>at the pole

I'm just glad that the snow niggers didn't shoot the stage down.
>>
Is this thing gonna keep gaining altitude? What's keeping it going up right now? Are the rockets still firing?
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>>8996611

Fuck ULA, they thought they could coast along by raising the price so they could rake in big bucks and not have to go to the effort of a lot of launches, now they don't even know how fucked they are.
>>
What's the next launch after intelsat?
>>
>>8996631
it's in the coast phase right now. Then it does a tiny burn to get the orbit more precise. After that, every 90 sec a satellite is released from the dispenser, for a total of 10 sats.
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>>8996626

>Congress has imposed a 2022 deadline for ULA to stop using Russian engines, which power its workhorse Atlas V rocket, for launches of national security missions.
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>>8996626
>mfw realizing this article is from this fucking April and not 2014
>>
>>8996639
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches#Future_launches
>>
>>8996626
>That engine recovery isn't slated to start until perhaps 2025.
LOL
>>
>>8996631
its in orbit. An elliptical one, which means the lowest point was around ~500ish and the highest at 625 km. it will, by going through this orbit, keep going 'up' and 'down'. No rockets are firing; this is newtons 3rd law with the removal of any friction by atmosphere.
>>
>>8996643
mfw ULA has to buy old Merlin engines from SpaceX because the BO engines never gets finished
>>
>>8996631
>What's keeping it going up right now
Momentum. Like how a baseball keeps going up after it leaves your hand when you throw it in an arc.
>>
>>8996635
saved
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>>8996642
Yeah, think of that scene in Moonraker.
>>
>all done with c++ on linux with COTS hardware

all other programming languages btfo
>>
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>>8996615
Pretty sure inspection counts as a service my man Elon
>>
>in-video advertisement
goddammit youtube
>>
>mfw this music will be the only thing played on the MCT during the earth-mars transit
>>
>>8996648
Well, merlin engines have the highest TWR for any engine in the world even beating the F1. So that wouldn't be bad for ULA
>>
>engine restart of 3 secs
>engine basically burps
>>
>>8996668
F1 had a shit T/W and all things other than the size of it.
NK33 had the record before merlin at 150:1 now Merlin's do 200+
>>
>>8996642
>>8996647
>>8996655
Cool, thx guys
>>
>>8996671
>>8996668
just wait for full size raptor. Oh baby....
>>
Satellite deployment started!
>>
>>8996674
>implying its ever gona happen
they are already downsizing it all making it "more economical"
>>
>>8996681
No
They are just going to make the upper stage first
And fly that as a single stage to orbit test vehicle
>>
>>8996681
The smaller versions they have now are just for testing.
They still intend to make the full sized ones they showed off the specs for in the ITS presentation.
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>Down the road, they will not even be repainted between launches. Aiming to be able to relaunch same orbital rocket booster in <24 hours.
MADMAN
>>
>>8996685
phenomenal if true! SSTO has been a dream of spaceflight since the early days, and here SpaceX plans to do it just for a test vehicle!
>>
>>8996681
Downsizing is actually good. It has a more chance of flying that way and ITS was too big anyway for practical purposes.
>>
>>8996695
ITS can put 300 tons into orbit. That is lifting the entire ISS in one launch.

If you want to ever get an economy going in orbit/moon/mars. You need to lift a lot of things from earth first. Being able to do it in one go. Then not have to do spacewalks to assemble things. Is a big cost and time saver.
>>
>>8996695
>>8996681
in the recent shotwell interview she says that they have tested the test raptor "dozens" of times and that the final version will be 2-3 times larger. Also, she mentioned that they are looking into using it on a future f9 iteration
>>
>>8996698
Not to mention, even though you could launch an entire station in one launch, you could still do it isa-like and have a hueeeeg station launched in 4 or 5 its launches
>>
All ten Iridium satellites deployed! webcast ending
>>
>2 successful missions
>1 weekend
>1 thread

WE SPACE NAO
>>
What about that exploded facebook satellite? Are they going to rebuild and try launching again?
>>
You know it's a good weekend when you cash in $150M
>>
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVxysOlA04j/

>>8996720
I don't think so. Spacecom isn't doing too well financially right now
>>
>>8996720
Not their fucking problem.
>>
>>8996726
vid converted to webm
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>>8996719
>a second reused booster.
>new Ti gridfins
>>
>>8996740
>successful landing for the hardest landing yet as well
Bulgariasat was one fat bird
>>
>>8996746
and it was a GTO too.
>>
14:40:18 PT is when the first contact will be made with the 10 sats
>>
>>8996766
Isn't that 28 minutes ago?
>>
>>8996689
>Down the road, they will not even be repainted between launches.
Lauching dirty rockets would look pretty cool
>>
>>8996775
I remember reading there will be no paint, maybe some thermal coating, so less smoke, less dirt.
>>
next launch on the 4th
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>>8996810
My SpaceLaunchNow app says the 2nd,but that might not be up to date
>>
>>8996815
static fire is NET Thursday. probably not the 4th since it's govt holiday and you need quite a few govt people for a lunch
>>
>>8996746
Bulgariasat was actually rather light compared to previous GTO payloads. The hard landing was because the sat was sent into a supersynchronous trajectory and people think SpaceX wants to deliberately test harder landing conditions.
>>
>>8997054
ah yeah that's true
>>
>>8996552
Oh hey, do they have the roomba there?
>>
>>8997214
roomba is on ocisly. jrti is the vandy drone ship. They only have one right now.

Wait a couple days and there will be pics from the ports of the stages - that's an old pic
>>
>>8996572
>but the best indicator should be that everyone from ULA to Ariane Space is announcing plans to go the same way, or at least trying partial re-use.
literally nobody is serious about it except Blue Origin
>>
>>8992334
>floating

Orbits do not work that way.
>>
>>8992354

>having a fleet of 12 cores they can refly every 2 weeks

game changing
>>
>>8996336

Titanium is an expensive metal
>>
>>8996660

>implying they will even bother inspecting the grid fins on the block 5 Falcon 9
>>
>>8997904
there are currently 5 they have in storage. Seven flight ready in total, but two are for the FH side boosters.
>>
>>8996695
>too big anyway for practical purposes

Wrong, the only reason it will be able to operate so cheaply is because it is so massive, being bigger makes it easier to make the system rapidly reusable while still having significant payload capability. Going smaller requires just about as much development cost and investment but is harder and more expensive in the long run.

The ITS will be cheaper to fly than the Falcon 9 block 5, per launch. Per kilogram it will be orders of magnitude cheaper than any current system, and as the head of SpaceX propulsion development stated recently, it will render all other launch vehicles moot.
>>
>>8996705

This, SpaceX has given no indication that they are downsizing the ITS, Elon only said he's going to reveal how they plan on having the ITS pay for itself more effectively, and people are jumping on that because they are incredulous at the size of the rocket, even though it's probably not even close to as big as rockets can get with current materials technology.
>>
>>8996781

The smoke and dirt comes from the engine turbopump exhaust, not the paint burning. If anything the paint turns slightly yellow.
>>
>>8997919

and they're still producing more cores every month, soon they'll be producing the block 5 and getting much faster turnarounds on each stage they land.
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