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If perpetual motion is impossible, why do the electrons of an atom seem to be perpetually moving?
Another question: If energy always tends to spread out, degrading the energy source, how come forces inside the atom seem to perfectly preserve themselves? the weak and strong forces never seem to be degrading... same thing with gravity
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Electrons don't really move around an atom per se.
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>>8958526
They maybe don't move AROUND the atom, but i mean there is definitely movement going on there
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>>8958530
Prove it and you'll win a nobel prize.
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>>8958535
It's already known that electrons aren't staying in the exact same place. they appear to be jumping from to place, which is... well... movement
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>>8958514
>In an inertial reference frame, an object either remains at rest or continues to move at a constant velocity, unless acted upon by a force
and what force would stop an electron, air friction?
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>>8958541
So an atom is a perfectly isolated system with no energy escaping it?
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>>8958539
Prove it and you'll win a nobel prize.
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>mfw brainlets think "particles" are tiny spheres that orbit each other like planets and stars
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>>8958581
I never said in the OP that electrons are orbiting the nucleus. i just said they are moving
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>>8958581
Because that's what's taught in America in high school and uni Gen Chem. Electron Cloud is taught in Gen Chem, but you're mostly working with Bohr representations. You don't get into the real thing until PChem and Modern Phys which only chemists and physicists take.
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>>8958593
Its standard to teach it as the cloud in highschool chem where I am
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>>8958593
In community for the year I had to attend it (because I was out of school for 4 years) was explained right at the gate that we didn't use bohr outside of simple shit.
Where did you go?
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>>8958514
>If perpetual motion is impossible
It is by all means possible, BUT not if whatever is moving is also doing work.
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>>8958593
No, pretty much the first thing in my uni gen chem class was a short unit on the most basic of quantum mechanics, dealing with single electron systems.
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Something that drove me mad right up till 2nd year of university is that before then you are taught simplified models without being told they are wrong.
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Like everyone else is implying, if you pose these questions like this you're probably not at a level where you can understand the answers.
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