Hello /sci/, so me and my friends are debating over the correct

It's 3. Each color/part combination for each of the 3 different parts and colors is used exactly 3 times.

>>8942723
3

>>8942723
-1/12

Probably 3, but 7 crossed my mind too.

must be a black triangle: 3,5,7
must have all 3 colors: 3,7
vertical blue bar and horizontal yellow bar already occur in the right column: 3

>>8942785
And of course I mixed up vertical and horizontal
What's it called if you always mix up vert/horiz, left/right , and so on?

>>8942723
I like 7 better than 3, because that way only two colors will be used for the horizontal bars and only two colors will be used vertical bars in each row.

>>8942789
I believe it's called being a retard.

One way of remembering left and right is using your hands. Which hand do you write with? If you're right handed, right is on the side of the hand you write with, left is the other, the inverse is true for left handed people. Can't help you with horizontal and vertical, I have a weird method of remembering, which might not make much sense to others.

>>8942801
But that will leave more than 1 possible answer (even though only one is available from the list that matches it)

>>8942806
True, we would also have to add the restriction that the last element in each row needs to be three different colors in that case. I wonder which one is the official answer.

>>8942812
My logic for being 3 is seperated into three sections:

The triangle's colour is changing in a specific pattern: Black,yellow,blue...
The two first columns have two repeating colours the third doesn't
The last column horizontal and vertical stripes have the colours of the triangles in the previous columns. The horizontal stripe has the colour of the first triangle in the row, the vertical stripe has the colour of the second triangle in the row. This is the pattern that leaves only one possible answer for the question mark
That is a black triangle, with a yellow horizontal stripe and a blue vertical stripe.

>>8942803
Are you familiar with the word "horizon"? That's how you remember what horizontal is, vertical is the opposite

I think it's 5. The crossbar pattern is 1 of a color, 2 of another color, and 3 of the other in each row/column.

>>8942723
I'd guess 3
all colors appear x times

>>8942921
That's actually how I remember it, but it might not be intuitive for someone which doesn't have english as a first language

>>8942723
3 variables, in a 3 by 3 matrix = insufficient data

I have found 5 functions so far that meet the requirements and yield different answers. 3 of which have the same number of steps. The other 2 could be ignored on the grounds of finding the "least" complex pattern, but that is never stated so they also could be valid.

>>8943046
horizon is a word of greek origin used by the romans as well, meaning it's common to all romance languages. additionally it's also used in russian so i'm assuming that goes for slavic languages in general, so unless you're a speaker of some barbaric irrelevant language horizon/horizontal is very close to the words you'd use in your native language.

>>8942723
black triangle
I'm expecting it horizontal bar to be blue
so it has to be 7, then

>>8943046
My native language isn't english and i remember it like that. When i'm in "english mode" i "think" in english. Seems natural to me, though i think it reinforced some grammary errors that i often do.

>>8942723
So what's the official answer? Seems like it should be 3, based on the logic most people gave.

>>8943294
OP HERE

Official answer is 3. A lot of people were going for 7.

>>8943302
In your original post you said that there is an official answer, and two valid answers. What are the two valid answers? If you used one of those two, would it count as correct on the test?

>>8942723
where is the rest of the test?

>>8942723
3
Left to right triangle misses the black triangle.
Top to bottom, misses the blue vertical

>>8942723
3 based sorely on the patterns

>>8943325
OP HERE

There are two patterns that you can use, and depending on which one you use, both 3 and 7 are acceptable, although 3 is the correct one, you can also use 7, but the pattern that leads to it can also lead to other answers as well, therefore if we were to ask you what comes next without giving you possible solutions, you'd have multiple possible figures using the pattern that leads to #7, while only having one solution to the pattern that leads to #3. I explained the patterns for #3 and #7 above, just read the thread again.

3, another unordered test.

>>8942723
3. First, the triangle has to be black, and all 3 colors must be present in the triangle at the right-most end of the row. Second, the color of the cross on top of the triangle is determined as follows:

the horizontal part is the same color as the first triangle, the vertical part is the same color as the second triangle.

>>8942723
Has to be 7.

I should not have to say why the black triangle is necessary.

Every column has 2 vertical and 2 horizontal bars of the same color. Every row has this property as well. Among the ones with black triangles (3,5,7) the only one satisfying this property is 7.

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>>8943077
>unless you're a speaker of some barbaric irrelevant language
Fuck u

>>8942723
This is from that Jordan B. Peterson lecture, isn't it OP?

>>8944188
By the way, I chose 7. I looked at only the patterns within the rows, not the columns.

It has to be a black triangle for obvious reasons, leaving 3 and 7.

I favored 7 since if you look at each row the topmost rectangle color is repeated twice in that row (row 1 has the yellow vertical triangle repeated twice, row 3 has the black vertical triangle repeated twice). So picking 7 would be a natural fit for the second row.

I believe JP said the official answer was 3 though.

The problem itselfs seems rather simple, is the official answer bullshit or something?

>>8944254
I'm not OP but I'm sure the answer is 3. Look at every single black triangle. One already has a black vertical bar, another one already has a yellow vertical bar. The only one that does is 3. Same with the other color triangles.

3 because each element (triangle, vert, horiz) would have 3 of each color in the entire matrix. I noticed the triangles first and started with 3/5/7, then I noticed that the bars worked the same way.
t.172 IQ from official Mensa test

>>8942723
5

>>8944522
no wait its 7

>>8942723
3 seems the go to

>>8942723
3

>>8944514
So I just goggled up the so-called "test", and it looks pretty shitty. All four "example" questions are this format, three different attributes that can go three different ways, and a 3x3 matrix where you basically do a sort of sudoku to find the missing one.

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>>8942723
You guys are all brainlets. It's 7. I'm looking at this by viewing the sequence from left to right.

>Triangle
It's black because for the triangles the color only alternate

>Horizontal & Vertical line
1) Colours do not simply alternate because some colors appear twice on the same row.
2) Hypothesis: The colours appear in terms of "dominance". The more dominant color override the other color
3) Question 1: Which colors dominate each other?
4) Question 2: Are color dominance the same for horizontal and vertical lines?

>Vertical line color dominance
1) Yellow dominates Blue from row 1.
2) Black dominates Blue from row 3.
3) Question 3: Black and Yellow which one dominates?

>Horizontal line color dominance
1) Black dominates Yellow from row 1
2) Blue dominates Yellow from row 3.

>Question 2
1) Looking at row 1 Vertical yellow dominates vertical blue, meanwhile looking at row 3 horizontal blue dominates horizontal yellow.
2) Conclusion: The answer is No. Color dominance is NOT the same for horizontal and vertical lines

>Question 3
1) We know that for Vertical: Yellow>Blue, Black>Blue
2) We know that for Horizontal: Blue> Yellow, Black>Yellow
3) We know that Vertical and Horizontal color dominance is different, thus for Vertical: Yellow>Black

>Question 1
1) If we sum everything from our deductions:
Vertical: Yellow>Black>Blue
Horizontal: Blue>Black>Yellow

>Conclusion
1) /sci/ is filled with highschool brainlets that can't even use the scientific method properly
2) It's 7

>>8944966
>the colors appear in terms of dominance
And you lost me on that. The answer is 3.

>>8944966
m-mochi san

>>8942723
The only answer is 3.
Incidence of each color variant of each component occurs no more than 3 times on the left. This excludes 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, leaving only 3; which brings the total count of each color variant of each part to exactly 3. It is very simple.

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this is a very common IQ question in the testing of intelligence, the answer is

>3

in spatial IQ tests, they try to go for the culturally fair route and most answers and the process of finding the answer is much simpler a lot of the times even on the higher end of difficulties

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>>8945278
also if i were to try to estimate the difficulty level of this question in the form of IQ, it would be around at most

>120

>>8943441
That's what I was thinking. I concluded on 7, but I was also looking at 2,3, and 6.

Can you tell me what this iq test is from? Is it an online test? It seems pretty stupid to me that there are multiple correct answers.

>>8945285
>120

How did you decide that? The question seems pretty easy. I don't think you have to be a genius to get the correct solution.

>>8942751
this one is right

>>8943092
why blue and not yellow?

>>8943441
Each row has three different colors of triangle, thus 3, 5, or 7.

Each row has two same-colored horizontal, thus 1, 2, 6, 7.

Each row has two same-colored vertical, thus 1, 4, 5, 7, 8.

Third column are the only ones with three different colors in them, thus 3, 4, 6, 7.

7 is the only one that fits all patterns. There is no pattern that gives three and not seven.

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>>8945874
you're not wrong, you dont have to be genius at all or even moderately gifted, so that is why i chose

>120

at maximum btw. also this question is harder than you think for people who would range in the average range of intelligence at around 95-115. the pattern that solves the problem in itself is easy to understand, but finding it out would be like tunnel vision for other people. you would find out how this feels when you try solving a problem that is above your usual capacity.

>picture's difficulty on its own would be at minimum 150 IQ and above. probably higher

>>8946877
Furthermore, each column must have 2 matching horizontal, two matching vertical, and no matching triangles, thus 7

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>>8946879
though i feel like this question is more reasonable to show, it should be solvable by a lot here but would take a while to figure it out. i think this question would be in the range of

>135-145 IQ and above.

>>8946885
3

>>8946890
(logic being no orientation repeats)

>>8946877
do the diagonals next, brainlet

>>8946894
Elaborate. 3 breaks 3 patterns.

7 makes all 5 patterns complete.

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>>8946901

>>8946904
3 follows 3 patterns and breaks 3 patterns whereas 7 follows 5 patterns and breaks 1 pattern.

7 is the more elegant solution.

>>8946908
7 is the brainlet """""solution"

the only pattern is that all colors appear 3 times in each position

>>8942723
3, each row has one picture where all the shaped are differently colored

A blue triangle and a yellow triangle of the mismatched are already accounted for on the upper and lower rows

Then you just apply that thinking to the other shapes

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>>8946909
Wrong.

7 follows 5 patterns. As shown and explained by me earlier.

If you can show me 2 more patterns that 3 follows that 7 does not (in addition to diagonals), then I will concede that they are equally viable. If you can show me 3 more patterns that 3 follows that 7 does not then I will concede that 3 is the best.

Until then 7 is superior as it completes the most patterns. You can't arbitrarily pick one pattern and say "oh this one is the best because I say so", so we must go by quantity of patterns.

>>8946923
denial isn't gonna get u anywhere bud

>>8946931
Prove me wrong pal.

Explain why your solution is more elegant than mine. Explain why diagonals are more important than 3 other rules that all other symbols follow.

You cannot.

>>8946935
It's the colors. Nothing else.
3 times
each color
each position

>>8946923
7 breaks total incidence of color per shape, adding an extra yellow vertical line. It isn't a valid choice.

>>8946923
To state my case fully:

The vertical bar must be yellow or black, because each other column has only two colors of vertical bar.

The vertical bar must be yellow or black, because each other row has only two colors of vertical bar.

The horizontal bar must be blue or black, because each row only has two colors of horizontal bar.

The horizontal bar must be blue or black, because each column only has two colors of horizontal bar.

The triangle must be black, because each row has three different colors of triangle.

The triangle must be black, because each column has three different colors of triangle.

The triangle, horizontal bar and vertical bar must be different colors, as column three has only things with three different colors.

If you consider the diagonals from left to right 7 also fits a pattern of three different triangle colors each.

If you consider the diagonals from left to right 7 also fits a pattern of two different horizontal colors.

If you consider the diagonals from left to right 7 also fits a pattern of two different vertical colors

>>8946940
True. But it seems arbitrary to say that that pattern is more valid than all the ones I've listed that 3 breaks.

>>8946885
what's the answer?

I guess 3

>>8946885
>>8946890
it's 2.

it just rotates
black thing right->bottom->left
and if you place leftside one of the 2/3 piece circle to the right side the stripes point downward so 2.

>>8946957
if it rotates in the way that you're saying it does then four lines down in the full circle should be four lines to the side in the 2/3 circle.

four lines down in full circle is a mirror of four lines down in the 2/3 circle.

bottom piece four lines is the only four lines that doesn't look like a mirror, similar to bottom three lines.

Therefore one would expect the rotation to look like 3, not 2, no?

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>>8946965
I gotta be honest I cheated a bit while doing it and used paint.
I took the left from the 2piece and rotated it here

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>>8946968
Ok but like that's not how the other lines work.

Allow me to explain my picture since I have no paint experience and thus suck shit at using paint.

The reds circles all have four lines. If you rotate them, they do not look like each other.

The blues all have three lines. The one I circled at the bottom more closely follows the 4 line pattern than the one you show. If you rotate any 4 lines they don't look like each other, the same must be true of the three lines.

>>8942723
based on there already being 3 yellow triangles and 3 blue triangles you can already infer that it's a black triangle, but as for the color of the bars, there's 3 yellow verticle and 3 black verticle making blue the obvious choice since there's only 2 and as for the horizontal bar only 2 yellows. So 3 is the correct answer based on those observations.

>>8946977
I see
you are right

>>8946950
The vertical bar must be blue, this is the only vertical bar that is represented twice instead of thrice.

The horizontal bar must be yellow, this is the only horizontal bar that is represented twice instead of thrice.

The triangle must be black, this is the only triangle that is represented twice instead of thrice.

3 is the only answer that allows re-arranging of all the individual parts in a random order so as to present unique problem sets to individuals with only a single correct answer across all possible problem sets.

Basically, the patterns you describe are coincidental and wouldn't work with the problem rearranged randomly in the sort of testing environment that these kinds of tests represent. They're not even particularly self-consistent in that you've sometimes got two of the same thing and sometimes three. You've found meaning where there wasn't in overlooking the more obvious solution of completing the set.

>>8946879
5.

Everything shows up 4 times with 5 except the bottom of the two right-most and the cross-section, which (with five), both show up twice.

>>8946986
what about the blank white?

>>8946985
I fully understand the premise you're coming from as to how 3 fits your pattern but I take issue with the "random reassignment" aspect, as position of shape can and often is integral to these types of tests.

Furthermore, obviousness is quite relative. The first pattern I noticed was row-by-row as part of an organized system propagated throughout the image. The other patterns soon came as I saw the image being governed by a series of mini patterns propagated by rows, columns, and diagonals, forming an elegant solution. While your solution works if you rearrange them, I find that their arrangement is integral to the pattern itself.

Which kind of lends itself to OPs statement that there are two valid answers. I believe mine presents a more elegant image that is validated by several patterns on multiple levels, whereas you view one pattern as concrete. These are arbitrary judgements. You cannot possibly back up your assertion from any objective standard as to why 3 colors is the best system, any more than I can back up with objective logic why adherence to a greater number of patterns is better than any one pattern.

>>8946989
You right. Got distracted while I was working on this so overlooked that. Will reformulate

>>8946998
>>8946879

Still 5. There must be one and only one pattern in the same position between a circle and the circles next to it. (take left most for example. It has only white in common with upper left, and only top left three line in common with bottom left's top left three line).

5 has top left in common with the circle to its left, and top right in common with circle to its right.

Note that it can have the same shape in a different position.

>>8946879
>tfw not cut out
can I make it as a barista?

>>8942723
3

>>8947011
makes sense

nice

>>8946996
You don't have patterns though.
>The vertical bar must be yellow or black, because each other column and row has only two colors of vertical bar.
isn't a pattern. It is a narrowing of choices. And it isn't even consistent with
>The triangle must be black, because each row and column has three different colors of triangle.

4 yellow vertical lines, 3 black vertical lines, 2 blue vertical lines
4 blue horizontal lines, 3 black horizontal lines, 2 yellow horizontal lines
3 black triangles, 3 yellow triangles, 3 blue triangles

That's not a pattern. That's a mess. OP says there's 2 answers to troll the same way people do with the stupid division problems that get posted.

>>8947048
arbitrary judgements that I don't agree with and you cannot provide any justification for except "no i don't like that pattern".

>>8947055
your 'pattern' is 432432333.
The correct answer's pattern is 333333333.

>>8946879
I think the test maker logic for 5 on this one is that for each step, a single piece rotates once clockwise, starting with the black on the left sector. As it rotates, it covers over whatever piece was in the adjacent sector. When it reaches the bottom sector, it stops there. The next rotation begins with the piece that is on the left sector. So in the beginning, black goes to right, covers radial stripes, reveals the white. Black goes to bottom, reveals radial stripes, covers horizontal stripes. Now since black is at the bottom, and white is on the right, black stays put, and white begins the rotation pattern, and so on.

>>8947064
no my pattern is

2
2
2

2
2
2

3
3
3

222

222

333

yours is

2
3
2

2
3
2

3
3
3

223

223

333

yours is fucked up. Your arbitrary judgement of which pattern is superior is no better than my arbitrary judgement.

>>8946923
>>8944966
THIS. 7 is the superior answer. Only brainlets will be so quick to answer 3.
>hURrrRr dUUruur bacaz there only TWee Calarz for da shapez
please eternally stop breathing if you think like this. no wonder /sci/ has been so shit.

>>8946901
7 is wrong. 3 is the answer.

>>8945869
It was from one of the video lectures from jordan peterson. I came here because the comment sections seemed to debate on whether the answer was 3 or 7. I wanted to see what you guys thought. The correct answer was said to be 3. You can find that answer through different ways, 1 of which is to look at the previous triangle colours in the row, the horizontal bar in the last one being the colour of the first triangle in the row and vertical one being the colour of the second triangle in the row. Another pattern would be to see the diagonals, you see that the cross rotates from top right to bottom left, with the colour on the vertical line becoming the previous colour on the horizontal, and the horizontal line becoming the next colour in the sequence, which is black, yellow, blue.

7 is inconsistent since it does not follow that pattern, and what ever pattern leads to #7 leads to other possible patterns as well, which would be wrong.

>>8946923
By that logic, you can have both a black triangle with blue Horizontal and yellow vertical as well as a black triangle with a blue horizontal and black vertical. This means you got more than 1 possible solution with your pattern, therefore it is wrong. Just because the second pattern is not present in the solutions, it doesn't mean that you can go with the one that is present. The pattern you use must have a unique answer, which your logic does not.

>>8947229
This chap has it. If 7 is the answer, you have more partial patterns than you would had you picked 3.

So whilst 7 in of itself may satisfy a greater number of patterns, it neither satisfies what seems to generally be considered the primary, or most overt, pattern, nor do you end up with a great consistency.

>>8942723
>It must have a black triangle since in each row and column every triangle color appears once.
>It must have either a black or blue horizontal bar since in each row and column there are only two different horizontal bar colors.
>It must have either a black or yellow vertical bar since in each row and column there are only two different vertical bar colors.
Only answer 7 fits.

>>8946879
OP here, is the answer 4?

>>8947380
No.

>>8947479
What is it?

>>8947483
Read the thread

>>8947486
I'm not talking about the original test, I'm talking about the one I replied to, with the pie charts. I don't see how answer 5 makes any sense. 4 makes a lot more sense, You start from the left top side, you rotate the right part of the circle counter-clock wise once, then you take the pattern after the rotation and you move it counter clockwise 2 times, then you take the next one and rotate it counter clock wise 3 times, and so on, once you reach the unknown, it is the end of the circle as well as the beginning, so you rotate the thing by 0 times, which will be the equivalent of simply replacing the figure. I don't see how #5 completes the circle. It only goes clockwise but not counter-clockwise.

>>8947011
By that logic, 4 is also a viable option.

>>8947075
If this is true, your answer will not match with the previous figure on the top left corner. Unless it doesn't have to loop, I'm pretty sure that is wrong since your choice doesn't loop back to the starting point.

>>8942723
It's 7. Took me ~40 secs, drunk

>>8946879
6, took me 10 seoncs, drunk

>>8946904
7, took me ~30 seconds. Drunk

>>8947683
>>8947677
Perhaps you should try doing it sober, the answer is not 7, but 3.

>>8947522
I don't think it necessarily has to loop. You are given a very clear starting and ending point, meanwhile new patterns are revealed very close to the ending point, meaning that they will not occur in the same rate as the other patterns, like one would expect for a complete cycle. The intent of the question is more "so given this rule, can you figure out what should happen by then end?" Not so much "fill in the blank between these two spots, based on what's missing."

>>8947733
Higher digits confirm 5.

>>8947733
well how do you know you have to go clockwise and not counter-clockwise? If it didn't have to loop, why wouldn't they just set it in a straight line or a U shape?

>>8947733
I don't think there's a clear starting point considering it's a circle.

>>8947508
this is pretty hard to grasp
can you elaborate on
>you rotate the right part of the circle counter-clock wise once, then you take the pattern after the rotation and you move it counter clockwise 2 times...
my brainlet brain cannot compute this

>>8944149

case in point

>>8942723
with a,b,c being black, yellow, blue

the triangular backdrop's color is a shift of the sequence a,b,c. Rows 1-3 = {a,b,c} , {b,c,a} , {c,a,b}

the vertical bar's color is a shift of the sequence a,b,b ... thus rows 1-3 vertical bar color = {b,c,b} , {b,a,b} , {b,a,a}

the horizontal bar's color is a shift of the sequence c,b,a... thus rows 1-3 horizontal bar color = {a,b,a} , {a,c,a} , {b,c,c}

column 3, row 2 must have backdrop, vertical and horizontal of {a,b,c}

the correct answer has a black triange, yellow horizontal and blue vertical.

the answer is 3

>>8947768
The starting point is not blatantly obvious (it's not labeled or marked specifically anywhere), but you can sense that the change is occuring in a clockwise direction just based on looking at how the patterns shift and eventually get replaced by completely different patterns as we move further and further clockwise away from the starting point. You can see the direction of the rule, without knowing it exactly what it is, and once you have the idea of clockwise rotations, you apply it to the individual sectors in a way that is consistent from the beginning to the missing final piece. Another hint is that the patterns inside of the circles are also rotating clockwise.

>>8947761
You can try applying the same rotation rule backwards, by starting left of the blank and going counter-clockwise on all rotations, and it will work consistently up until the end. The problem occurs at the last stage when going from the {black, radial, horizontal} circle to the blank, you are forced to reveal a new pattern from under the horizontal stripe sector, when it shifts to cover the radial stripe sector. If there was a choice with a completely new pattern at the bottom and the horizontal on the right, that would also be valid, but that would require additional arbitrary information, so {black, radial, horizontal} is the simplest, most logical starting point. I agree that it is not a clear-cut process to determine the starting point, but once we have it, the problem flows very nicely from it to the blank point. Ideally the process goes like this: we want to find a rule, whereby starting in one direction, we can test it on every circle before we get to the blank. Since there's only two spots like that, we test the rule in both directions, and only one of those ways gives an answer without requiring anything additional not already given in the problem.

>>8947867
Applying the rule backward doesn't yield the same figure though. You go from left to right to bottom in a clockwise direction, once you reach the bottom, you take the left figure and do it all over again. Doing it clockwise will yield 5, doing it counter-clockwise will result in the pattern of taking the bottom figure, moving it to the right then left, which will yield a pattern with those horizontal line on the right side at the end. this is different from the figure in #5.

Unless you have another logic for getting #5, I don't see it too sound. My logic for #4 is that you start with the top figure (#4). This is position 0. At position 0, you shift the right side of the pie chart counter-clock wise by 0 (position) times, and then replace the previous position by whatever is underneath it. Since you don't move the first position, you simply change it. Then once you did this, you go to the next pattern right after the position you just ended at. The next pattern is the diagonal line at position #1, you shift it counter-clockwise by 1 and then reveal what figure was at the original position. You then go to the next colour or pattern (white) and do the same, in this case its position #2, so you shift it once, reveal what was originally under it, then shift a second time, and reveal what was underneath the second position. Then you go for the next pattern, which is the black one, that is position #3, you do the same thing, shift it 3 times, and you end up with black at the bottom, some random on the left, and the 4 piece on the right. You then start again from 0, to get the first one, and do the whole thing again. This also works clockwise. Its a bit confusing, and I know people probably won't get it, but just trying to put my logic into words here.

Is there any official answer to this?

>>8947768
Sorry, see my other post here:
>>8947905

It's a bit messy, but it was my process to finding 4. I would like to confirm it if someone has the actual answer. or if someone can show me something wrong with my logic there.

>>8944966
Is this satire?

>>8947761
I think they deliberately chose to arrange them in a circle, since that's the shape of each individual element and also a subtle way to signal that the problem is solved by rotations. It makes the problem a bit harder, since it slightly obscures the starting point. However, because this is not a continuous circle, but simply a group of individual points that fall on a circle. Since each one is unique, nothing excludes the possibility of ordering them in a certain way, based on some specific rule. If we were to label a random set of points on a circle with numbers or letters, the order would immediately be apparent. Our case is the same, it's just that the rule which determines the order (unlike more familiar rules of progression -- 1,2,3.... or a,b,c...) is much more difficult to grasp on first sight.

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>>8947799
digits seem to agree

>>8947905
>My logic for #4 is that you start with the top figure (#4). This is position 0. At position 0, you shift the right side of the pie chart counter-clock wise by 0 (position) times, and then replace the previous position by whatever is underneath it. Since you don't move the first position, you simply change it.

How do you determine that the top figure is the 0 position? This wouldn't work if any other point was the 0 position. Yes it does work counter-clockwise and backwards going clockwise, but only because you introduce an arbitrary change at this single 0 position in order for it to work.

For me, it's logically simpler to assume a specific order given a unique starting point, rather than fixing a starting point and introducing an additional change that only appears at that point just so the rule can work in both directions, since that change conveniently takes care of it.

>>8947905
>replace the previous position by whatever is underneath it

It is more clear to think of the pieces immediately revealing whatever is underneath them as they shift, rather than assuming there is nothing under them while they are rotating and then something else magically appears once the rotation is complete, which was supposed to be underneath the piece the whole time. It makes things unnecessarily convoluted, and it allows you to introduce a random change in the 0 position.

>>8948038
Yes, that's exactly what I assumed, I probably just didn't express this clearly.

>>8947732
He's right though

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Good god there are brainlets here that still pick 3. The superior answer is 7. 3 is the answer if you're a brainlet and can't see pass some retard level logic. There have been numerous elegant solutions for 7. But for 3:
>hurr durr numba of calarz is 3 for 3 shapezz
good god. Fucking retards. If you were in the 20th century you faggots would be the ones that would argue classical mechanics is irrefutable. Please gas yourselves.

>>8948596
>his ""solution"" gets totally fucked up if you swap any of the positions
>meanwhile 3 still works

>>8947905
How come the black gets replaced to the white?
There's the fishnet and then sun, the sun changes to the diagonals. I get those. But the black bottom thing just changes to white out of the blue?

Am I right? Did I get understand correctly?

>>8948827
the sun*

it's actually really fucking hard to find patterns that hold in a loop when there's an odd amount of things in it....

>>8948854
That's why it's most reasonable to assume that the figure right of the blank is a starting point and the blank itself is simply the final figure that needs to be determined.

>>8946879
Can we get an official answer from whoever posted this?

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>>8948991
no and never, find it yourself and do the test

>http://www.cerebrals.org/jcti/

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>>8948991
also the answer is 5 and has always been five
i would know

>>8949455
great, i agree
glad that's settled

>>8948786
>his ""solution"" gets totally fucked up if you swap any of the positions
LOOOL I hope this is bait because you're so goddamn retarded. Of course changing the positions will change the pattern you dumbass.That's how patterns work. People like you are actually studying in a STEM field LOOOOL. kys

>>8951574
why do you think this is a "select the object that when replacing the ? gives the most patterns" problem instead of a "select the missing object" problem?

>>8951793
>why do you think your arbitrary way of answering the question is right instead of my arbitrary way of answering the question
yeah you're a dumbass. case closed.

>>8951810
>he doesn't know how to answer the question, answers anyway
Guys, don't do this. On many tests like this guessing incorrectly results in a deduction of points rather than zero points for an unanswered question.

>>8942723
3

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>>8951817
spatial IQ tests like OP's picture dont deduce points usually at all, its actually reversed of what you said

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>>8951817
>>8951864
its like this for example though this one is from a high ranged iq test. try maxing that out lol oh wait

>>8946922
what then prevents 7 also being true, by this logic?

>>8951810
Because your way of doing it, results in more than one possible solution for the ? mark. The answer is 3, it's not our fault if you're brain dead and can't figure it out.

>>8947229
> video lectures from jordan peterson.

wow. that's great. did he create the test? I really don't like this peterson guy, and i think he is pretty garbage tier. He doesn't say anything worthwhile, and most of what he says is a bunch of mumbo jumbo that normies and reddit browsers eat up.

>>8946879
> you dont have to be genius at all or even moderately gifted

am I missing something here? the average iq is 100. 120 is well above average.

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>>8951952
This chart triggers me. Is length of thread really the dependent variable here? Didn't realize I was sensitive to this.

>>8942723
3. Each icon is made up of a horizontal bar, a vertical bar, and a triangle. Each colour occurs three times in each of those shapes across the set, provided 3 is chosen to fill in the space.

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>>8946977
> the small pleasure of being affirmed by a rando on the internet.
This was my reasoning as well, anon.

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>>8952917
you right, you right, fo sho.
but i suggest you look at the average IQ range at around 85-115, instead of the static number of 100. it wouldnt be uncommon for people to be in this range at all.
it sounds weird, but 120 IQ is not as impressive as you would think and the question OP showed is not as easy as you would think to people with lower IQ, even though it seems to be easy for us though im assuming everyone in here solved the problem on their own in a reasonable amount of time

through psychometric testing of example IQ test, the Logica Stella, you can see its norm that ive posted previously before, you would need to achieve 11/30 raw score to get the 120 IQ.
>>8951876
here is the statistics of the example test. in order to be able to answer this question OP posted, i guessed 120, but im thinkig now a range of
>110-115
i dont do statistics, i literally just make assumptions from observing basic stuff thats all i take a lot of iq tests since i was in my teen years and i know many types of problems and their difficulty and i usually base its difficulty with IQ levels

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>>8954037
p.s.
this Logica Stella is from >IQexams.net
some of the many websites that contain both free and costly high range iq tests
i dont want any legal trouble im not a lawyer

>>8942723
If the blue and yellow vertical lines mixes with black, it must results to black [left with 1 and 7]

There must be one colour each row and column
Therefore ,7 may satisfy the answer.

>>8955977
Shit what a fool i am
from the first reasoning, 4, 5, and 8 were safe
shortlisting from the second part,5 may be it.