>tfw born just too late to live forever

>>8838854
Too early.

And why would you want to?

>wanting to live forever
are you 17?

>>8838859
Fear of death and loss of sentience.
>>8838862
Are you stupid? You think being irrational is mature?

>>8838854
do you really want to live forever?
forever and ever?

>>8838864
Immortality scares me more than death ever did. Just think of the implications.

It'd be nice to cure aging and live to be 500 and take a trip to alpha centauri before you consider it's time to euthanize yourself.

>>8838866
You could always off yourself if you really wanted to.

>>8838864
>irrational
>wanting to live forever

pick two, retarded faggot

>>8838875
living up to, say, 70 or 80 (preferably 70) isn't the same as being immortal or dying at 20, bro

>>8838876
>rational
>wanting to die

Pick one. Preferably the latter.

>>8838854
>tfw born just in time to live forever.
Now comes the hard part. Not dying before it happens.

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I wish I could live forever, time is just too limited to learn everything...

>>8838881
What?

>>8838875
This.

>dude losing your mind to Alzheimers or painfully dying from cancer at a time determined by genetics and luckis the best

purely a meme to rationalize death

It comes down to chosing how long to live, or not

>>8838893
This too. Imagine if the greatest minds in history was still with us

>>8838893
I think the first breakthrough will be to prevent degenerative disease with genetical engineering at the fetal period, so it wont be avaliable to us

If other methods become avaliable we will probably be very aged by that point, so I don't know

>>8838859
>Too early.
Wopps. Seems like you got it though

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>>8838898
>>8838906

What are we supposed to study/research to even get to that point though? I'm doing my undergrad in biochemistry and learning some basic programming on the side in my free time.

I wish more people would be interested in science or at least have more funding...

Even having more opportunities for students to use their knowledge. So many potentially lost minds because their simply aren't enough jobs/opportunities. What if some bright person out there would be the one to figure it all out, but simply never had the chance to shine and is working at starbucks or something.

Yet here we are spending our lives trying to prolong/achieve immortality and missing out on our own life in the process. Poetic.

>>8838917

>their

I mean there...Sorry, it's almost 4AM.

>wanting to live forever
ifuckinglovescience subscriber detected.

I wouldn't want to live forever, but to live in good health and in prime for a long time.

Consider this: we are born, then we mature, at 17-20 we are at out peak, then we are stable until early to mid thirties and then we already are in decline.

So an average human only has 10-20 years of real enjoyable life and after that you're on the road to hell. Subtract the time you need to shit, sleep and do other useless stuff.

You only have about 15 years of real life. This is fucking sad.

Aging is a disease.
I don't want to live forever, but to be youthful 100-150 years at least.

15 years is literally nothing.

30 years in, your tissues are already degrading. Wtf is that?

>>8838854
I highly doubt there will ever be anything that could stop the aging of someone that has already been born. But maybe there could be GMO humans that live for a very long time in the future.

>>8838893
Brains aren't unlimited. At some point you'd have to start forgetting stuff in order to learn new things. I don't know about you, but I can't willfully forget stuff.

>>8838854
I'm still giving it a shot. Currently doing a PhD focusing on neuron machine interfacing. Might work, might not, but if you want it you have to work for it.

I think, that the aging research is underfunded, because aging formally isn't recognized as a matter of concern by the medical field.

The area is grossly underfunded, hence aging is not considered a disease, thus not important in trying to "cure" it.

Is there any conceivable way to stop aging for people that are already born?

>>8838854
>You die.
>Ask God to station you in heaven to see us doing things below.
>Profit???

>>8839129
Telomere elongation, senolytic drugs, some sophisticated way of tricking the genetic clock.

If not to make immortal, it is surely possible to increase human lifespan several times through some kind of perplexing gene manipulation.

There are many studies emerging, where mice have drastic lifespan increases and age-reversal through different means.

The complete human age reversal is theoretically possible, but there are too many practical implications and issues right now.

Too many black spots on the roadmap, although it gets clearer and clearer every year.

Read up on recent Salk Institute mice studies, FOXO4-DRI, Yamanaka factors, telomerase activity, etc.

I suppose it is possible, but how quickly it'll come to human use is speculative. Depends on funding and research activity.

My bet is 20-50 years for engineered negligible senescence trials in humans.

>>8839039
doing gods work anon
i would try to help but im a brainlet, so

The ethical issues regarding overpopulation are solved pretty easiliy.

Each human should be able to choose either to age and have children or to drastically increase his/her lifespan, but be limited to reproduce by a very heavy birth tax.

Assuming we achieve such a technology.

>>8839039
>>8839147
Literally doing the devil's work.

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>>8839157

Only scientists/researchers/doctors should be allowed to be immortal.

What if I do a few cycles of Epitalon + TB-500 + FOXO4-DRI injections along with NMN administration?

Will I be like a lab rat? How dangerous this may be? Doubt it was ever tried in humans, especially such coctails.

I have ways of obtaining verified research chemicals with proof of content.

>>8839181
Here's a solution everybody can be happy with.

Say we can increase the human lifespan by 1,000 years. Everybody is eligible, but gets a "time tax" of 100 years on a research team or service profession like medicine. That doesn't include any training/retraining you'd need.

So you get your telomere shots, work at your local hospital for 100 years, and to fuck off for a few hundred years.

Of course you're free to just continue research as normal if you liked your job.

>>8839173
>>>/x/

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>>8839202

Hook me up with them telomere shots then laddy, I will do that for 1000 years without hesitation.

As for everyone being eligible, how would people incapable (brainlets) contribute with their time tax? Do they do brainlet work for 100 years and fuck off to doing brainlet things for 900 years(hedonism)?

>>8839259
Toss 'em in construction or some such gig for a century, then.

I'd imagine that extreme longevity would come a while before post-scarcity, so they'd still probably work relatively normal jobs the other 900 years to fund their hobbies.

You guys thinking that increasing the human lifespan by a large amount would end well are all fucking socialist utopian dreamers especially this faggot >>8839157. Imagine Africa with 50 billion Niggers. That would happen in no time.

Another possible scenario would be one country developing this shit by itself and then not wanting to share. This would lead to nuclear war very quickly.

Besides, being able to live to 10000 will not protect you from getting shot in the face.

>>8839317
>africa would be able to feed 50 bil niggers
pick 0

The only serious group working in this is SENS, and with the micro budget they have they can only afford a few projects per year.
If you want immortality stop sitting back and start working towards it. Become a scientist, or become rich and give money to research. Stop wasting time!

>>8839317
>Implying any third world nation would be able to afford it and people would go dropping vials of immortality syrum over tropical Africa

Hell, I'm an American born and raised nonwhite and honestly wouldn't be surprised if I didn't get to participate just because I'm not white.

>>8839039
I would love to work on something like this. The problem is should I aim to become a doctor or an engineer? Inb4 underage faggot

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>>8839367
I'm a computer scientist, the team I'm in has neurologists, me, people from cybernetics and nano-medicine.

I'm biased here, but I think the computer science part of the work is most fun and rewarding, but I can't give you an unbiased answer.

>>8839147
I was an academical failure until I got my ADHD diagnosed. My strengths are creativity and determination, not raw intelligence.

>>8839373
I enjoy computers and robotics more than medicine ...Thank you
May I ask in which country is this research taking place? Not that it has any significance, I still have to wait about 6-8 years to be able to take part in something like this

>>8838854
Even if immortality is attained it seems like the type of thing only the super rich and powerful would keep to themselves

>>8838854
You're arrogant. Thinking that it's about you. You're just a single piece of the whole pie. You may not survive but the human race will. Your purpose now is to contribute to human understanding so that our species may prosper. Much like how a cancerous cell is destroyed by killer t cells, for the good of the collective multi-cellular organism.

>>8839129
Eat less. If there's one thing that has been proven time and time again is that reducing caloric intake increases lifespan.

>>8839387
Not practical. Biological immortality is not invulnerability, and not all rich people are on the same team. Hoarding the technology would just breed animosity and risk you having to be in hiding forever.

If you own radical life extension technology, you're pretty much won at society. You don't ask "how much are they willing to pay?" You ask "How much money do they have?" The demand is fixed. Everyone. You name the price.

Plus societally speaking, you'd get rich as fuck and save money over time not needing to swap out old workers all the time if you let the tech drop in price as it becomes easier to manufacture.

By all means, try to get rich. Wealth buys early access for certain, but it's a tech that can't get hoarded without civil unrest.

>>8839387
Immortality isn't something you can just "attain" overnight in secret. It's a multi-disciplinary endeavor of the highest caliber.

>>8839383
Norway, NTNU to be specific

>>8839442
>If there's one thing that has been proven time and time again is that reducing caloric intake increases lifespan.

I think there is a bell curve involved in that, though.

>>8839142
This. Many of the proposed strategies to fight aging are at an early stage, but the proof of concept has been established. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/mar/23/purging-the-body-of-retired-cells-could-reverse-ageing-study-shows

>>8838854
Don't worry about it. The million or so immortals are going to sweep away the seething masses cluttering the planet so they have a nice place to live, and just keep a hundred million or so of the most picturesque and entertaining mortals to play with as toys. So really, you're lucky that you'll get to live a full life and not have it cut short by the gigadeath years, or have to live in the torture world that follows.

>>8838862
Im 17 and i want to die.
Immortality is weird

1. healthy lifestyle
2. donating OR working on cure
its so simple and increases your chances by great margin
too bad brainlets on 4chan just whine while eating doritos, drinking sips and sit on their ass all day masturbating to japanese cartoons

>>8839545
justin?

Are u jewish ?

>>8840961
lol

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>>8838854

>>8840977
Asshole never made good on his promise so now we have to do it ourselves.

You were born just in time fool (unless youre like 90)

>>8841042
Young people die every day anon. Nothing is guaranteed.

>>8838854
I don't understand the purpose behind this image edit.

>>8838859
>why would you want to?
I have a reason to go on living. Do you?

>>8841045
If you have enough backups, the system effectively never goes down

>>8841049
Okay, but I have zero backups until the backup technology is developed.

>>8841072
Well, it's unlikely you'll die in an accident. They're good odds, anon. Yes, they go up the longer you live, but I'd still take them.

>>8838924
Ifuckinglovehavingafalsesenseofsuperiority

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>>8838854

>tfw you will not be the last generation to die from natural causes

i wish i was born 300 years from now

Could it be worse then it is now?

>yeh

but i dun give a shit

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>>8839017

this comment

i think 1000 years is ideal, but we will die before this will be possible.

BUT i think our species will die off in the next 500 years desu senpai

>>8839387
See: >>8839446

The group/person capable of creating biological immortality and able to distribute it. They won the game of history and being on top of the human social ladder.

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>>8839186

>this

dude fucking do it, if it works you will be a fucking god (or at least live for longer which is already pretty good)

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>>8841034

ayy

>>8838854
While I doubt anyone is ever going to live forever and even if immortality of a kind was achievable it wouldn't be available to everyone I could see someone getting around to curing aging eventually, resulting in a world of people that live normal lifespans but look like they are in their 20's for their entire lives

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>tfw born too late to die during childbirth

>>8842218
can men die during childbirth too?

>>8839440
Fuck off back to /x/ you spastic

>>8838898
>This too. Imagine if the greatest minds in history was still with us
they would probably be insufferable and contribute nothing new since their brains wouldn't be plastic enough to adapt to everything new.

>>8842223
I meant when I was born

>>8842236
I'd like to see your source on the brain plasticity of youthful centuries-old geniuses.