If I started Jupiter on fire would it become a star?

>>8831308
dunno, why don't you try it?

>>8831309

That's not helpful

>>8831327
Did you try it?

If you burn a balloon does it becomes a star?
You need to turn it into a nuclear reactor for something like that, not just start a fire.

>>8831403

But a balloon is not a (small) star sized collection of flammable gas

>>8831407
Hydrogen is only flammable if there is oxygen.

>>8831308
I'm pretty sure Jupiter doesn't have the necessary mass to sustain continued fusion of lighter elements into heavier ones for millions of years.

>>8831308
no
that isn't how stars work

>>8831538

Are there calculations on what would happen if you had a globe of water with a Jupiter's mass worth of hydrogen?

>>8831597
Ohhh, and then what would happen if you smashed it into a similarly massed ball of fire!

sun made of lava vs sun made of ice

>>8831610
nah nig, we have to do a proof of concept with a jupiter of water and jupiter of fire first.

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>>8831308
fire can't exist with the chemical composition and atmospheric pressures as well as the winds. it gets hit by asteroids fucking daily without getting caught on fire.

>>8831622
Maybe that's just because OP hasn't tried to light it.

>>8831308
it will block your path

>>8831308
A star is fueled by itself
this is a planet which has fast as fuck wind speeds and the gasses aren't potent enough to make the fire visible from outerspace

>>8831308
There are lighting storms all the fucking times on Jupiter. Giant fucking spark plugs. It doesn't have enough oxygen and that's not how stars burn regardless.

>>8832040
>here are lighting storms all the fucking times on Jupiter.

Not true

>>8831308
the fire rises

>>8832146

It's a big planet

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>>8831622
>asteroids are Bic lighters

>>8831412

So if there was oxygen in Jupiter I could light it on fire?

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>>8832092
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter#Storms_and_lightning
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/multimedia/largest/lightning.html

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>>8831391

>>8831308
Compress the fucker. After certain point it will start burning itself.

>>8832399

That doesn't make any sense

>>8832203
What was the point of this image?

>>8832092
The fuck are you talking about? Of course it's true.

>>8832560

Prove it desu

>>8831308
It's estimated that Jupiter is about 1/75th the mass it needs to be to ignite as a light-hydrogen-burning red dwarf, and about 1/13th the mass it needs to ignite as a deuterium-burning brown dwarf.

Nothing short of dramatically increasing the mass will cause it to ignite.

>>8832572
I could but this guy already did
>>8832203

>>8832580

Have you ever been there? Have you ever seen jupiter lightning in person? Then you can't prove it.

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>>8831308
Here's some lightning on jupiter.

>>8832590
wow really got me there. Can't prove your real either because I have never seen you, so I am perfectly within my rights to tell to fucking kill yourself.

>>8831308
It would be extremely butaneful.

>>8832590
Yes. I have seen Jupiter lightning in person. Have YOU been to Jupiter?

>>8832202
It's going to set itself on fire pretty much immediately.

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fire is a chain reaction that requires heat, fuel, and oxygen. Any oxygen on Jupiter would be liquid oxygen. Have you ever try to light liquid oxygen on fire??

>>8831309
>dunno, why don't you try it?

I have an old encyclopedia on CD from the 90's where they had a video (it was a black white gif really, but gifs were video in the 90's) and the caption said they were launching nukes into Jupiter in an attempt to ignite it and turn it into a star. THIS WAS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA SAYING THIS!!! I'll never forget that. Now any mention of that it is met with a reply of being crackpot conspiracy theorist. I don't know what to believe.

>>8832488
Nuclear fusion, mate.

>>8832706
There is a theory that at the core of our Earth there's is nuclear. It explains the heat, and why there's helium in our soil. It might even explain why our core is made of iron, as all nuclear decay produces iron eventually. Jupiter's magnetic field is ENORMOUS!! It's possible it has a much larger iron core left over from nuclear fusion.

Maybe Jupiter already is a star, except it's plasma is unable to escape it's own gravity.

Yes, my teacher told me at the center of the sun there is carbon being burned. So you just have to get to the center of Jupiter and light the carbon on fire and it will become a Sun.

>>8832724
>There is a theory
Was a paper on that theory published in a reputable journal? Because i sounds like bullshit, and all the things it "explains" are already very well explained by better explanations.

>>8832727
kek, was your teacher Bill Nye or BSM?

>>8832736
https://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v4/n9/full/ngeo1205.html

Paper only describes heat emissions. The rest is plausible IMO, however those are the opinions of a nobody posting on an anonymous basket weaving web forum.

>>8832742
>paper is about radioactive decay
You fucked up pretty bad m8, of course there's radioactive decay occurring in the core, but you said fusion.

you would need 80 jupiters to come together to get fusion ignition and form a red dwarf.

>>8832838
But I thought all you need to ignite something is gas and a match.

>>8831308
no because it requires nuclear fusion in order to burn like our star.

For it to under-go fusion we need to compress it untill it is about 1/4 it's current size, then maintain that force (prefferably with a gravity well) in order to keep it burning.

>>8832488
"Burning" term used to describe thermonuclear fusion in this context, not an oxidizing chemical reaction.

It needs to be really hot in order to conduct nuclear fusion. Hotter than baby stars can get. They do it because of the pressure their mass exerts on their core, which allows for fusion to occur at lower temperatures.

So, compress that bitch a lot and it'll probably end up burning.

>>8832488
Ever heard of diesel engines?