Head transplant in December

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POST NOW U BUNCH OF OBESE LOSERS

>>8803110
How many successful head transplants have this specific medical team performed on animals? Where can I see these animals that are still alive?

>>8803149
Go to China, they are helping this canavero guy, and they claim they made it on a chimp and rats

>>8803149
Well the russians got chimps to survive a few days in the 80s i think

>>8803166
the main challenge is to reattach the spine, thats why they created a new method, but anyways, the immune system will go crazy as fuck

>>8803149
Yea it's really crazy that they haven't even done this procedure on like 10 monkeys or something.

>>8803175
I think they're doing it in china

>>8803149
>How many successful head transplants have this specific medical team performed on animals? Where can I see these animals that are still alive?
This.
The operation will kill him in days or months there's no doubt about this.

>>8803207
Man, all the crazy shit going on in china must be wonderful.

I bet they are nearing mengele-tier disregard of ethics.

I bet they made some sick human clonations and genetic fuckery

>>8803350
Yeah, I hope some juicy leaks someday

>>8803350
They already used CRISPR to edit viable human embryos, so the next step is letting them be born. I'm so excited to see the rest of the world rage at it

Its a waste of resources if you think about it

that one gets a whole body full of donateable organs

>heart
>lungs
>2 separate kidneys
>liver

The heart/lung/liver/kidneys alone could prolong 5 lives. Just not enough people donate to make this worth it.

>>8803153
>>8803166
Same team of doctors? Where's the link to their papers?

>>8803110
1) the operation will be postponed for technical reasons, and the volunteer guy will die of other causes before the rescheduled date

or

2) the operation will last 20+ hours and the guy will die before it's over.

>>8803394
interesting point.
>>8803455
yeah, but I dont think the guy will die before the operation

Why the fuck would you directly go to humans if you can't even make it work for monkeys.

>>8803491
>you can't even make it work for monkeys
source?

Wishes:
I hope it works.

Prediction: He is going to die.

All of this life extension crap is unsettling. When it's your time to go you should just go. It's undignified to cling on to dear life like this.

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>>8803501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant#Monkeys

>could see, smell, and taste.
>tried to bite the staff
>basically only things you can do with a head
>no mention of the torso doing anything at all
>"success"

I will personaly cut his head and put it in a dog body if they dont release the footage of the procedure.

Cant wait for the head cutting action
Shits gonna be metal

>>8803394
indeed transplanting a head is maybe the most wasteful way of saving a life

>>8803394
Scientific progress is worth far more than a few human lives.

>>8803110
Chimeras when?

>>8803837
Anon, you wouldnt quote shit without even reading the whole paragraph, would you?

It won't happen this year. The surgeon still hasn't found the money for it (he needs $ 10+ millions)

>>8803938
Why so much moneyz? Chop the head off and sew it back on. The french could even be as nice as to provide a guillotine.

>>8803394
What'stopping them from taking those when he inevitably dies

>inb4 they reuse the body for another head transplant

>>8803905
On March 14, 1970,[5] a group of scientists from Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, Ohio,[4] led by Robert J. White, a neurosurgeon and a professor of neurological surgery who was inspired by the work of Vladimir Demikhov, performed a highly controversial operation to transplant the head of one monkey onto another's body. The procedure was a success to some extent, with the animal being able to smell, taste, hear, and see the world around it. The operation involved cauterizing arteries and veins carefully while the head was being severed to prevent hypovolemia. Because the nerves were left entirely intact, connecting the brain to a blood supply kept it chemically alive. The animal survived for some time after the operation, even at times attempting to bite some of the staff.[6] In 2001, Dr. White successfully repeated the operation on a monkey.[7]

White later wrote:

What has been accomplished in the animal model – prolonged hypothermic preservation and cephalic transplantation, is fully accomplishable in the human sphere. Whether such dramatic procedures will ever be justified in the human area must wait not only upon the continued advance of medical science but more appropriately the moral and social justification of such procedural undertakings.[8]

>"""""""S•U•C•C•E•S•S"""""""

>>8803972

They didnt fuse the spines you moran

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>>8803394
Let's halt scientific development then.
I'm baffled at how short sighted some comments are.

>>8804002
>you can't even make it work for monkeys
>source?
>given source
>muh spines

KYS

>>8804021
They should at least get it to work for animals first. Like where the animal actually lives and doesn't die later from complications. Then move onto human trials. Doing this with zero successes at all, let alone by the people doing it is just an absolute farce and when it fails will tarnish the whole idea.

>>8804025
I dont think they are promising the dude a couple of weeks of being artificially kept alive by tubes and not being able to dk anything except hearing and seeing things to some degree. They are promising him a new functioning body and as long as they didnt achieve that with monkeys they shouldnt go around and Experiment with humans. Its just insane.

>>8804025
>Its cns ends at the neck
>cant move the body

HOLY FUCK ITS IMPOSSIBLE ABANDON ANY FURTHER ATTEMPT
AHAHAH KYS AHAHAHAH

>>8803839
T H I S

>>8803963
>>inb4 they reuse the body for another head transplant
lol that would be nasty

>>8803110
I wish he would piss out his nose and I predict he'll smell with his dick after this operation

>>8804025
>>muh spines
it wasnt me moron

>>8803110
Is there going to be a livestream?

I hope someone breaks in during it and kills everyone involved, fucking freak show.

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>>8804258
cringe

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>>8804495

>>8803110
Is that evil genius to the right going to chop off homeboy's head publicly and with legal permission? I need some sleep.

I only remember this bullshit from MGSV speculation threads

So it's actually a real thing and not a Kojima ruse?

>>8804258
Man ur dumb
The dude knows hes fucked and the main point of the surgery is not to save his life

The dude just has a huge pair and volunteered for human advancement.
Show some fucking respect

>>8804329
t. Muhammad Ahmed Akbar

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Have they done any studies on head transplantation and subsequent CNI + metabolite treatment in the animal studies, or does this treatment modality not work in chips and dogs? One of the above studies took place in the 70s, and iirc, cyclosporin was only discovered late 70s/early 80s, so only form of antirejection available (if they even used any) were steroids and prograf (?).

If there were any studies done, then I have a very small sliver of hope for this man. If not, hes a goner.

>>8803110
What is this?

He'll likely die after a week at most of the operation and before that will have severely limited motor skills if any and will be at least partially paralyzed if not completely.

>>8803903
You humans will never be able to reach a pure chimera's level you human scums

>>8803378
>Rest of the world rage at it.

I don't get this. It's just asking to get dominated if country X is working on superhumans and you're too busy virtue signalling about brown people.

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After the neutral/almost optimistic article that bottom paragraph had me almost break down to a very loud laugh, which wouldn't be ideal since I'm at a lecture.

who /8days/ here?

Just throwing it out there, the dude's a hero. I don't know that I would have had the guts to say "sure reap my head off and sew it to a dead stranger's body, than just feed my old one to the fish".
I bet he has considered suicide many times and then finally found the most epic way to go.

>>8803110
Isn't this the guy from MGSV
what the fuck, is this all a joke?

>>8803963
>after he dies reuse the body with another head
I hate the chinese so fucking much.

>>8804329
This. Everyone involved down to the building janitor should be executed en mass.

>>8803172
This.

As soon as they get him off life support, his immune system will be BTFO.

>>8804660
>evil genius
He looks like the harvester of souls. I'm sure he knows to never travel to the west.

Have some faith people. It's 2017, the world is only getting weirder. I think we can end the year with a perfect body transplant.

>>8803741
no, short life hasn't meaning

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>>8805359

Yeah, fucking normies suicide in the most boring ways.

>muh guns
>muh noose
>muh OD

fucking normies need to start asking for beheadings for science.

guys, do you want to reproduce by cloning? i do.

>>8803149
It's a publicity stunt coming from an Italian doctor. Same as the human clone project.

There's literally no way this will work and is probably just a publicity stunt and they wont go through with the operation.

Fucking abomination if you ask me.

>>8803837
>"success to some extent"

>>8805474
War with China when

>>8805334
bamping for visibility, want an answer but at work

>>8805162
It should be illegal and is in most places without successful animal trails and proper oversight.

>Canavero has said the transplant – which would require 80 surgeons and cost tens of millions of dollars if approved – would have a “90 percent plus” chance of success.

>If approved, the procedure would likely take place in China or another country outside of Europe or the United States, The Atlantic reports, as it would not be approved in the Western world.

>>8805481
Death isn't success for the patient.

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I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:...

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can but I will always look for a path to a cure for all diseases.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

>>8805347
They have lived their life having not seen two genuinely developed countries at war or even proxy war or serious economic conflict, the concept that a developed country could genuinely fall apart because they are operating less efficiently and can't compete is totally alien to them.

>>8805474
The guy probably knows it has no chance of working, he wants to do it anyway and would kill himself otherwise

If I had to choose between dying and dying as the first body transplant (why are they calling it a head transplant?) patient, I would choose the latter in a heartbeat.

>>8805370
...?
He looks just like the doctor fomr the game, but he actually was modelled after an american actor in japan.

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>>8803110
My realistic but horrific prediction:

>Patient lives, gets awaken but the spine never healed, still alive because life support.
>Can only move eyes and face muscles...but he cant talk because diafragm and lungs will never respond to brain. (probably they removed his vocal cords too...)
>...you can still see the complete desperation and horror in his poor face
OH-THE-HORROR.jpg
>trapped in his head, filled with tons of meds to barely stop the immune system from killing him.
>somehow he manages to comunicate with the help of lip readers.
>starts to suffer random shocks of phantom pain like never before, we cant even imagine the atrocity.
>STOP HIS MISERY!!!!! claims the half the word.
>LET HIM LIVE!!!!! says the other half of the world.
>he doest want to die, he cheated life and he's still there to see his beloved ones to the eyes...
>4chan goes crazy like never before in history.
>riots in front of the hospital.
>after literal days of agony, he just gives up....
>"this was a mistake...sorry mom, sorry dad, I love you"
>"...kill me"

---screenshot this---

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>>8806043

>>8805639
>(why are they calling it a head transplant?)
Because they're leaving the bodies on the operating table, and actually moving the head from one operating table to the other.

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>>8806043
shot my man

To hell with head transplant, I'm interested in two halfs of distinct people in the same body. What would happen?!?!

>>8806069
o shit. so is it like, a paralysis cure or something?

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>>8806102

>>8805359
>>8805639
He's not suicidal he's a cripple. People with his condition die in their early 20's. He's already at that age so rather than being condemned to death the doctor is giving him an opportunity, however small, at a prolonged life and being part of a medical break through.

>>8806043
This is almost certainly what will happen

>>8806196
>life
It will be a terrible cruel torture

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>In his youngest tweets the excentric billionaire talks about the planned head transplant by italian neurosurgeon Dr. Sergio Canavero. "I am very interested in this idea and I am willing to finance the operation", the space entrepreneur explained. "I want to create reusable bodies and bring down the price of them by the factor 10, potentially 100. Our goal at BodyX will be to reuse bodies potentially 1000s of times." , he later went on.

JUST

>>8806196
>the doctor
Calling this team of insane amoral mad scientists a 'doctor' is outright insulting to the medical profession

>>8803116
is this pose the original for "it's a kind of feel"?

if head transplanting is possible, does that mean I can get my dick sewn on my forehead?

>>8803110
when is the surgery?

>>8806332
Never. They don't have the 11 million bugs to do it, nor a suitable donor body.

>>8803110
>after a few years he finally control the body
No, won't happen. This thing is just a huge meme.

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>>8806284
>in this timeline Elon Musk will the evangelions

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>>8806307
maybe
>>8806332
>>8806337
December, and there is a donor already.

>DR CANAVERO HERE, AMA.

>>8806069
Laughed out loud.

>It's the future.
>Be one of two twins
>Nee a body transplant.
>My twin, who is dying of some head-related disease (like head-shingles or the dreaded swine head-flu) offers to donate his body.
>Allah bless him.
>Go to doctor, tell him I need a new body from my brothers
>It will cost two million golden dinaris.
>Don't have that kind of cash
>Twin brother comes up with brilliant ideea
>He heard head transplant are way cheaper.
>He goes in as me, and tells them he needs a new head.
>'That'll be 3 camels'

>On the operating table, next to my brother
>When the doctors aren't looking we switch places
>They take my head and put it on his body.
>IFLScience

You

>>8806769
Congrats, no one laughed.

>>8803394
good point.

>>8803972
this makes me want to puke.

>>8803741
Making a claim for no other reason than "muh humanity"

>>8805411
"We" wtf did u do for this?

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>>8803110
>process its completely successful and he becames professional basketball player.
>dies in less than 48 hours while in coma.

>>8803725
this desu senpai

>>8807133
> Not realizing the doctor involved is on 4chan at this very moment

I mean where else would the inspiration come from?

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>>8803888

Edgy trips of truth

pic unrelated

>>8806330
it sure does my friend, an you've just been volunteered.

>>8805624
The px wants to do it
The surgeon wants to do it

Thats a green light imo.
The rest is gay, subjective and fruitless discussion about ethics

>>8807675
>px
ENGLISH

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>>8808238
>English

>>8803741
I'd rather be undignified than dead desu.

>>8805412
If everyone lived for 200 years we'd still have just as much difficulty with finding meaning, you fucking idiot.

>>8808583
Even if you end up as a head without voice or capacity to control your respiration...? oh, and random unbearable pain.

>>8808620
No that would kinda suck.

>>8808623
>kinda

>>8803741
>t. Brainlet luddite

>>8805627
>morality
outdated concept
>>8806043
If he wakes, this is the outcome.

>>8807172
The mods dont care any more i see. Blue board means nothing.

>>8808866
?
Thats SFW, whats the problem?

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>>8803110
>hope connecting to anotherbody allows for signals to wake up in the body that he could never control in his previous form, such as flight and super strength
>predicting he perishes after being kept in a floating head jar for 5 minutes while they prep the neck duct tape.

Sadboy never will get a new body

>>8808858
>outdated concept
You sound like one of those caricatural atheists from Dostoyevsky novels

They're gonna cut really precisely, I've asked in a thread about the height of the cut but I guess nobody knows. Now, theoretically, if you do that there won't be much damage to the nerves themselves. If you basically kill his immune system, like literally zero wbc and keep him in a clean room, maybe get him a bone marrow transplant later on, he can survive. Now a nerve can grow about 1 mm per day. If we assume a really good cut and the surgeon sewing his shit together correctly he might actually have the connections there pretty soon but I'm not sure about how they would be coded in his brain. It would probably be a clusterfuck. I actually have some minor hopes for this.

Bonus
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/marine-double-arm-transplant-wiggles-fingers-update/story?id=44511139
We do arm transplants that work now. The future is now and I kinda don't like it.

>>8806043
Christ, I seriously hope this doesn't happen to the poor man. If the operation doesn't go well then hopefully he'll pass away peacefully...

>>8808984
>flight
Might happen.
>super strength
LMAO ARE U LITERALLY INSANE DUDE? LOL