ITT: Cancelled Projects you wish were not cancelled

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overwhelmingly_Large_Telescope

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten-Salt_Reactor_Experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_fast_reactor

>>8802721
What's next, the inconceivably tremendously fuckhuge telescope?

>>8802799
Future Cancelled Inconceivably Tremendously Fuckhuge Telescope, thank you

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>>8802799
>>8802805
There's a lot to choose from that can be cancelled and probably already is cancelled.

People with money tend to want to keep their money it seems and don't give a shit about science for the most part.

But, you know, we could help out with science. You know all those old 1980s satellite dishes and all the newer tiny satellite dishes? You just need to buy up a bunch, set them up, and start your own radio telescope array.

>Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers
http://radio-astronomy.org/

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>>8802799
>>8802805
>>8802816
With how Australia has been killing off funding and projects in science the past few years, I'm sure this thing would have been axed if the sole funding had anything to do with the government.

>Square Kilometre Array
>Cost: €2 billion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BBoDw2qVD0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Kilometre_Array#Timeline_and_funding
>The funding will come from many international funding agencies.

There's also a bunch of people crying about how it will ruin the economy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Kilometre_Array#Opposition_to_the_SKA_project

>There has been opposition to the project from farmers and businesses, as well as individuals, since the project's inception.[80] The advocacy group called Save the Karoo has stated that the radio quiet zone will create further unemployment in the region where unemployment is already above 32%.[81] Farmers had stated that the agriculture-based economy in the Karoo would collapse if they were forced to sell their land, with land expropriation also on the table. Most fear that a Zimbabwe-style land expropriation will have negative effects on the country as a whole.[82][83]

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>>8802836

>>8802836
>it's another desert farmers think anybody in the rest of Australia cares about them political debate

>>8802845
>>8802836
Looks amazing. I will be even more amazed if it ends up being completed.

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>>8802875
>I will be even more amazed if it ends up being completed.

Same. Which is sad really. We should be like, "Oh shit this is awesome! Can't wait for it to be completed! Because 99% of all science projects like this are completed and now shot down like rabid dogs by brainlets." Case in point:

>NASA Has Spent $20 Billion On Canceled Projects
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-09/infographic-nasas-canceled-projects

>>8802890
Well ASKAP is already producing data so it's not like itll all be for nothing if the entirety of the project doesn't get completed 100%

>>8802897
They also get funding from multiple sources, even a SIEF Grant, so that helps insulate them from politics a bit.

>>8802721
How much interference does all that support structure above the mirror produce? It is like looking through a screendoor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

>>8802799
Unimaginably Big Colossal Fuck-off Telescope

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>>8803502
>heated debate ensued about the high cost of the project

>muh monies

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>>8803502
>nearly two billion dollars had already been spent on the massive facility

>>8803383
The only affect it has is to make the point spread function of the telescope more complicated. The PSF is the image the system would take of a perfect point source. It's not a big problem and it can be corrected for.

>>8802816
>People with money tend to want to keep their money it seems and don't give a shit about science for the most part.

People with money fund all sorts of shit -- nobody in the charitbale solicitation business makes a living (and supports the charity, scientific project, college or whatever) begging poor people for donations.

On that topic, what have YOU done with your money to support science? What percentage of your income do you donate to science in an average year?

>>8803555
Trips don't know 'bout muh sunk costs fallacy.

>>8802745
This, thorium will save the world desu

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How do we get more scientific funding?

>>8803674
>sunk costs fallacy.

It had nothing at all to do with that. Congress wanted the money for something else entirely and Clinton wasn't impressed at all by it. It would have been like $13 billion. Cancelling it even caused a recession in the area.

It was going to be 40 TeV while LHC is only 14 TeV. Now it is a no-name area and the europoors got all the glory and egg heads.

>>8802716
I feel anything related to deep space arcitecture that got cancelled following the Apollo wind-down is on the list. Nova, NERVA, Mars-designs and so on.

>>8803785
Just make up something really cool and difficult to disprove. Then proceed to ask around among brainlets. EmDrive, Cold Fusion, Solar freakin roadways - is it really that hard?

Bonus points for reinvesting said meme science money into actual science.

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>>8803785
https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/tags/science

>>8802716
Ronald Reagan's SSC or whatever it was. the particle collider that was supposed to be way bigger even than the LHC is today, but Clinton & dems crushed. we would have known about the higgs 20 years ago and who knows what else. we wont know until one with that one's capabilities is built

>>8804189
didn't see this >>8803502

>>8802864
The karoo is in south africa, dingus

>>8803625
uhhh depending on the instrument it can be pretty complicated... Keck has a gnarly psf it I don't think they currently deconvolve it from the data it takes.

you're right though that it isn't really a problem unless you're doing very faint photometry.

the Mother of All Cancelled Projects
http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/how-texas-lost-the-worlds-largest-super-collider/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-supercollider-that-never-was/

>>8802716
The Apollo Applications Program had a lot more potential than just Skylab. Would have been great if they'd gotten more out of the program.

>>8803502
Also This ^

>>8802716
ITT brainlets who can't into economic reality

This money is far better spent on military engineering development projects to protect the west from threats from russia/china. If this were a game of civilization you'd be 20 turns from finishing the pyramids and lose because you never thought to defend yourself.

would cancel your research project/10

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>>8805430

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>>8803981
god damn spam filter bullshit

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>>8805580

>>8805432
You can call it useless, impractical, "inhumane", anything really. But it's probably the coolest fucking missile ever conceived.
Slap advanced AI to it and resilient materials, and you've got yourself a "pestilence dragon" villain for post-apocalyptic setting.

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>>8802716
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_thermal_rocket

>>8805602
That one's actually not completely dead so there's hope by the end of this century or the start of the next that it'll be used for outer solar system missions.

>>8805432
>>8805598

This is the most perfect creation humanity has ever conceived of. Every aspect of it makes it better at what it does.

>>8805602
The only thing stopping this is the fucking hippies, right?

We need to get asteroid mining going using conventional fuels, once we find nuclear fuel sources in the system there is nothing stopping the development of anything.

>>8805193
kepler*

>>8805652
>The only thing stopping this is the fucking hippies, right?

No, it is world governments stopping this with that space treaty bullshit about not having nuke shit in space. Thankfully, RTGs don't count in that.

>>8805798
I thought that only went for bombs, I don't think a reactor counts as a bomb.

Surprised no one has mentioned Nuclear Pulse Propulsion.

>>8805432
To be honest I think the manned nuclear bomber proposals are a bigger lost opportunity. The molten salt reactor designs they were developing had a lot of potential applications outside of just powering the aircraft.
>>8805798
The treaty applies to bombs not reactors. Nuclear Thermal Rockets never flew because NASA was never given a mission that would have needed them and thus never got the funding to flight test any of them.

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Scientific socialism

>>8806172
>Nuclear Pulse Propulsion.
i think that cant be considered a project it never went past the drawing board

>>8806158
>I don't think a reactor counts as a bomb.
i think reactors in space are a no no. Anyway it odesnt matter since i think both the soviets and americans shitted on the treaty and put secret nuclear reactors in satellites

>>8804189
is there a theoretical limit on how big a supercollider could be in order to make it more useful?

like, is it expected that we could learn more from a collider that goes around the earth than one that is "merely" the circumference of asia?

>>8805582
seriously, why arent we cruising the solar system with solar sails, no matter how hard it is to make one, once you have it its basically free propulsion to everywhere. And if the sail is big enough then fuck it, you can go faster than any other rocket.

how big will a sail have to be to go back and from mars quickly

>>8802799
1000 years from now


THE UNIMAGINABLE MIND BOOGLING OH YEAH FUCK YOU GOD MEMEMASTER ULTIMATE TOTALLY ABSOLUTE ERECT GIRTHMASTER DESTROYER FUCKING GIANT BICEPS IMPREGNATES YOUR WIFES JUST BY LOOKING AT HER, MAKES STEVEN SEAGAL PISS HIS PANTS IN FEAR TELESCOPE TO END ALL TELESCOPES

>>8806451
you mean where the potato farmer has the salary as a math prof?

>>8802721

overwhelmingly large orbital telescope > overwhelmingly large telescope

>>8806776
I want this. I also want 100k+ wide antennae arrays beyond the Heliosphere for picking up space borne ELF waves. Though, I'm not sure it would survive outside the Heliosphere; maybe on the "downwind" side...

>Everyone wants funding but no one wants to pay taxes

>>8806799
If I had the money, I'd fund a shit load of real science that implements things and gets shit done.