How doctors keep themselves up to date?

There are lots of services which aggregate new information and provide summaries, from something like a clinical review in the NEJM to speciality specific publications.
Unless you're in a very small sub specialty it's not really possible to read all the new research being published.
In most places doctors do official CME (continuing medical education), basically where a licensing organization certifies courses, workshops etc which count for time spent updating knowledge.

>>8799570
They don't. Whenever a patient comes in with unknown causes of weird symptoms they just guess until they get it right or until the patient dies. Bonus points if the patient has 2 or more causes of their symptoms.

>>8799570
It's a requirement
CMEs are required by all states
And doctors must pass national boards every 10 years to remain board certified

The national board requirements utilize up to date info, a doctor whom didn't keep uptodate would have issues passing boards based on knowledge 10 years old.

Though, this requirement is being heavily lobbied to end, as specialties such as internal medicine (whom a growing majority are becoming hospitalists) only deal with medical wards or work as intensivists on the units, but the boards continue to demand knowledge of obstetrics (despite OB hospitalists becoming more main stream)

tl;dr they can lose their credentials if they don't keep up to date, and hospitals begin to revoke privileges when this happens

>>8799644
>guess until patient's insurance runs out
Ftfy

>>8799644
Yeah man, they are all assholes anyways

Don't worry about not getting in med school :^)

>>8799570
Everything from reading and studying new material in various publications to corresponding with researchers and attending colloquiums purposed for dissemination of the latest info and practices.

Keep in mind that while the best doctors use their time keeping up to date and seeking to learn and perfect using the best/newest methods, many just kind of cruise by until completely new standards or procedures come about which force a change.

MD's don't give a fuck they're not researchers.

I as well as many others like to use uptodate.com inbetween shitposting sessions.

>>8800294
>Gypsi uni didnt renew uptodate subscription after free one given by EU expired

Im not paying for that shit, but damn life is hard now.

>>8800359
Use a Norwegian proxy

>>8800374
Please elaborate

I'm a medfag student in a non English speaking country and most here don't know what a scientific peer reviewed journal is, don't know what NEJM, JAMA and Nature are, obviously a lot of them don't understand English (despite some professors who insist that everyone should know) and an alarming quantity believe in God, the soul and such. I just don't trust MDs anymore.

>>8800931
where u from senpai

An indian student gave us a seminar on homeopathy once, 100% unironically.

Another dude had to examine a patient for a practical exam (we all knew he was hypertense from seing him before) and made a diagnosis of HTN without measuring his blood pressure.

Im really disenchanted with medicine at this point, but im so close to graduation that I cant but keep going.
The only plus being a doctor has imo is not geting your shit JUST´d by some moron

>>8800931
one of my cohorts back during school (in 2012, at UW) was very similar.
She would talk about her little trips to Ghana and what not for her missionary expeditions, but she was definitely out there (she was a 25 year old Jewish girl, semi-attractive).

One time a friend and I were talking, I forget how we got onto this topic, but we were talking about witches being burned at the stake back in colonial times -
she interjects and proceeds to tell us that witches and demons are reall, and spirits walk the earth, then she became very defensive when I started chuckling - I thought she was joking...

I pretty much avoided all conversation with her after a few discussions here and there, she had so many pharmaceutical conspiracy theories

>>8801071
>she had so many pharmaceutical conspiracy
LOL I've heard that, once a girl told something like that to our Inmunology Professor who happens to be a serious researcher and he look at her an said: "that's just idiotic"

>>8800993
>us a seminar on homeopathy once, 100% unironically.
Argentina, in my country if you want to be a homeopath you first have to have a license as a physician, not joking. Just boggles my mind.

Doctors are a fucking meme, every specialist ive been to was foreign educated and barely spoke English, it was pretty obvious they were running an insurance mill scamming old people who have good insurance. Family practice doctors are full of shit too they just refer you to a specialist for anything outside of their expertise (see: fucking everything). The only doctors worth a damn seem to be either pediatricians or doctors who work in actual hospitals.

Us medical system is a joke 90% of these doctors are dead weight, I can't imagine it being too much better in the rest of the world either.

>>8799570
literally by reading uptodate.com

Plus most countries have continuing professional development requirements. And there is always the threat of being sued thanks to not know something which motivates me.

>>8802018
> Us medical system is a joke 90% of these doctors are dead weight, I can't imagine it being too much better in the rest of the world either.

Yep Australia's even worse

Instead of the insurance its the government which means our tax money

>>8802680
Spain here. It's the same as you just said. It's just a demonstration of public funding is a disaster (almost) always.

>>8799644
This. Here they just redirect you to a specialist.

>>8802693
That is the basis of a GPs job you moron
You cant expect them to be able to diagnose everything just like that.
And they need to refer people to other specialists for most testing and imaging.

GPs are specialists too btw

Western medicine is inherently flawed anyway because of the dehumanisation and scientific reductionism applied to living beings.

Stuff like selfhealing, depression, placebo effect or suicide will never be understood by the clinical professionals.

>>8800915
uptodate is free to everyone in norway; if you use a norwegian proxy you can use it
(at least that was true last time I tried, probably last year)

Why does every thread about medicine on /sci/ attract such retarded responses?

>>8802827
Every thread on /sci/ attracts retarded responses, why would medical threads be an exception?

>>8801071
>she had so many pharmaceutical conspiracy theories
LOL ! !

They have to do a certain number of hours of continuing education.

This basically amounts to going to a conference, and watching some powerpoint slides on diabetes and then getting drunk with your colleagues afterwards.

>>8803044
Dont forget the free pens, bags and notebooks.

>>8803090
Dude those bags are legit sometimes

>>8802379
You can be sued for total bullshit reasons, just because the patient didn't like the look of your face.

>>8799570
Most of them don't, even in the specifics of their own field. They just act on what they were fed in med school, with a bit of experience-based fine tuning. It's why the idea that medicine is meaningfully evidence based and has no control structure, is absolute nonsense.