Who are the most intelligent mathematicians?

Srinivasa Ramanujan, David Hilbert, Leonhard Euler, and Carl Gustav Jacob Jacobi are people I would consider to be first rate mathematicians.

>>8775873

Donald Trump

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The ones who actually accomplished shit

tao, that russian guy that lives with his mum, tonnes of others. Tbh there's probably someone out there that leaves even someone like tao in the dust.

>>8775884
what did bongo man achieve again?

>>8775873
Just a few:

Turing
Church
Godel
Walter Pitts (pure brain power)
Alexander Grothendieck
Grigori Perelman
Gauss
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Euler
Leonardo da Vinci (pure brain power)
Frank P. Ramsey
Paul Cohen
Évariste Galois
Archimedes

All I can think of atm

>>8775904
Holy shit I'd never heard of Pitts before. What a fucking badass.

>>8775904
Very happy I could expose you to Pitts. Indeed he is.

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>>8775904
>Walter Pitts
>career ruined by a woman
Let this be a warning to you all.

>>8775963
It's rather infuriating. Some low tier pleb could unhinge a genius.

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>>8775963

Or Norbert Wiener could just have not been a cuck and ignored his stupid bitch wife. All that IQ and yet no strength of will.

>fuck up cybernetics cuz my wife said so
>JUST

>>8775963
Or at least have the sense not to make your romantic interest the priority. There is nothing that infuriates a woman more than not being a man's permanent center of attention, but who cares? There are more important things.

>>8775986
Men are pussies when it comes to women. They lose all respect for themselves and women generally have the final say so.

>>8775999
It's because men exist to serve women.

>>8775885
>Tbh there's probably someone out there that leaves even someone like tao in the dust.
Why do you think that?

>>8775879
>>8775904
plus:

Bernhard Riemann
Bernoulli familiy
The famous greeks (Pythagoras, Euclid,...)
John von Neumann
Claude Shannon
Augustin-Lois Cauchy
Bertrand Russel
Emmy Noether

wow yall be a bunch of rasists n sheit pikin only wite people baka

>>8776128
Tao has Brennan mentioned

>>8775884
>nazi
>sexist and probably rapist too
>jew
>maniacal mass murdering jew
k

>>8776834
Why do you hate Jews?

Does Fermat warrant a mention?

>>8775882

Sieg heil!

>>8776864
Krull
Teichmüller

>>8775873
None of them are Bob and I'm not going to embarrass Bob but Bob. He is married to the worst anthropologist ever.

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>>8775873
Me.

>>8775879
Borel also I think. His name is on a lot of shiet as well.

>>8775884
>feynman
hahaha...

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Not so much brain power as literal sorcery and alchemical powers, but whatever

>>8776058
>Claude Shanon
Just one coding thesis.What else.
He didn't invent anything from scratch.

>>8778687
He developed a hole theory by himself! Without it, our world would look very different today. But OK, compared to Gauss for example, less impressive.

I add to the list:
Kolmogorov
Abel

>>8775873
Dirichlet, Euler, Gauss, Riemann, Hilbert, Poincare, Noether, Abel, Galois, Cauchy, Laplace, Lagrange, Fourier, Poisson, Cantor

>>8776058
>>8775884
Feynman and von Neumann are memes, and hardly even qualify as mathematicians

>>8775904
Godel wasn't really much of a mathematician, and his proofs don't really matter much to mathematicians

Also da Vinci? fuck off

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>>8775873
Cauchy
Ramanujan (just because he was self taught in isolation among a bunch of retarded injins)
Leibniz
Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America, and 4-D chess grandmaster of the universe
Gauss (idk, I just hear everybody say Gauss is the best, idk why though)
Descarte (created analytical geometry, and his writing is imo, the pinnacle of rennisance shitposting)
Huygens (look at that face, this guy doesn't give a single fuck)
Knuth (i wish more programmers wanted to be like him, instead of like some blue haired singular freak)

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>>8779330
>Descartes

Also the guy lived large, was confident because he knew he was among the best, and he didn't apologize for being smart

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>>8779304
>Godel wasn't really much of a mathematician, and his proofs don't really matter much to mathematicians

>>8779304
von Neumann a meme (Feynman probably is, I don't know much about him)? Godel not really a mathematician?
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about!

>>8779353
They disprove a certain notion of formalism. It doesn't bear on 99.9% of math that's done.

>>8779363
Almost all of Godel's work is in logic. Mathematicians don't really do that sort of shit.

>>8780090
how dare you speak on this board

Eratosthenes by far. Nigga measured the earth's circumference with the sun and some sticks.

>>8780296
Thanks for le ebin may may.

>>8775963
His career was fucked up by the world not being digital, but by being beautifully analog.

>>8780090
Not sure if you are serious. If not, I don't get the joke. If you are, again: you have no idea what you are talking about.

God Tier:
Archimedes, Newton, Gauss, Euler, Grothendieck

Ubermensch Tier:
Pythagoras, Euclid, Diophantus, Descartes, Galois, Abel, Cauchy, Ramanujan, Cantor, Fermat, Hilbert, Riemann

Genius Tier:
Bernoulli Bros, Kolmogorov, Weierstrauss, Turing, Laplace, Poincare, Lagrange, Borel, Godel, Von Neumann, Pascal, Fourier, Cohen, Saunders Mac Lane, Shannon, Tao, Wiles, Perelman, Poisson, Noether, Witten, Pitts, Lebesgue, Hermite, Jacobi, Cayley, Dirichlet, Bertrand Russel

Pleb Tier:
Norman Wildberger, Feynman,

>>8779304
>John von
von Neumann is not a meme. He is a founding father of Linear Optimization, Mathematical Economics and Game Theory. To say nothing of his work in Set Theory and Real Analysis.

>>8775873

1600-1699

Pascal, Leibniz, Fermat

1700-1799

Euler, LaGrange, LaPlace

1800-1899

Gauss, Cauchy, Weserstrass, Abel, Galois, Cantor and Hilbert

1900-1999

Godel, von Neumann, Turing, Grothendieck, Ramanujan, Erdos, Noether

2000-2100

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Bill Nye

>>8780881
Above god tier: Nikola tesla

>>8780881
Von Neumann should be God Tier.

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mah TOP3, The order doesn't matter

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>>8780907
>Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Bill Nye

>>8780868
*tips fedora* thanks gentlesir, for the valiant opinion?

>>8775873
I'd say von Neumann, Kolmogorov and Grothendieck were the last truly magical mathematicians.

>>8780889
He contributed, but he's nothing of the genius he's made out to be. Hence meme status. He simply doesn't belong next to the top mathematicians, at best tier 2.

>>8780998
Would you at least say his cognitive power fits OP's definition of intelligent. He had scary powers from a young age.

>>8781010
he was intelligent, sure, i just think people overrate what he did

>>8780950
They are truly the forerunners of our era.

>>8781067
Didn't he discover interior point methods?

all these plebs who don't even mention newton

>>8780881
This list is pretty good, but why no Erdos? And Grothendieck was great but why god tier?

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outta the way brainlets

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>>8775873
not even gonna read the thread because if it's anything other than 58 posts with the word "Gauss" it's not worth reading anyways

>>8782049
innovator of the GOAT mathematical theorem

$1+2+3+\cdots +N = \frac{N(N+1)}{2}$

>>8780881
>god tier
>newton

opinion discarded

True best mathematician

>Hilbert

Even Tao admits he is the last person to have had master of all fields in Mathematics.

People who are alive: Tao and Perelman tied.

>>8782029
>And Grothendieck was great but why god tier?
he fell for the memes.

>>8776847
I can understand someone hating nazis.
I can undderstand someone hating jews.

But who on earth would hate both? Either you are a nazi or you are a jew shill.

>>8782059
Concerning people who are alive, I've read that:
Asking top-shots like Tao, Smirnov, Villani, Werner, ... "who is the most talented among them" most of them said: Jean-Pierre Serre.

>>8782060
Grothendieck is definitely an ubermensch though, but a completely different kind of mathematician than most others on the list. I mean, he thought 57 was prime...

>>8779304
Godel was a first class mathematician. You clearly don't study pure math & its obvious you're a retard that doesn't understand mathematical logic is a field of mathematical research.

Stop posting. You aren't a mathfag and I see through your bullshit.

>>8782334
I'm a graduate student at a group 1 university. Nobody here studies or cares about math logic. Most departments don't have anyone or care about math logic. If anything it's tertiary and tangential to what mathematicians do.

>>8783166
Mathematical logic is a subfield of mathematics regardless of your brainlet opinion or what "group one" university you go to.

It obviously isn't Berkeley, Cornell, or Michigan, so your opinion matters very little to me.

Mathematicians do care about logic,
https://math.berkeley.edu/research/areas/logic

I would trust Theodore Slaman to be a better mathematician than one you will ever develop into.

https://math.berkeley.edu/people/faculty/theodore-slaman

>Most departments don't have anyone or care about math logic. If anything it's tertiary and tangential to what mathematicians do.

You are wrong though

https://math.berkeley.edu/~antonio/slides/RMMonterey.pdf

https://math.berkeley.edu/research/areas/logic
https://www.math.cornell.edu/m/research/logic
https://lsa.umich.edu/math/research/logic-and-foundations.html
http://www.math.wisc.edu/~lempp/logic.html
http://sites.dartmouth.edu/logicseminar/

Jacob Barnett

>>8783166
I hope you aren't serious.

>>8783166
me to, we are really good at solving PDEs

>>8783476
this

>>8783166
Maybe your department just doesn't have a logic group. That doesn't mean there aren't excellent active logic groups out there.

>>8783166
You're a retard.

>>8775879
You forgot the father of calculus.

>>8783448
Again, nothing you said is technically "wrong", but your average low-dimensional topologist doesn't give a rat's ass what the logicians are doing.

>>8783497
>>8783677
>>8783917
It's fine that some departments do logic, but again it doesn't affect the working mathematician at all. You really think groundbreaking work in algebra is done by math logic people? No, they investigate questions about the foundations which bear almost no consequences on the stuff working mathematicians do. Call me a retard all you want, but I'm right and you're not.

>>8783928
I mostly disagree with your characterization of logic as something most departments don't care at all about

>>8783928
The people in the departments I linked to are "working mathematicians" trained in classic areas of mathematics. Your worldview of logic is narrow. By saying logic is not a field of mathematics over and over again doesn't make it true.

>>8783933
>>8783937
Some people like both baseball and hockey, that doesn't mean understanding hockey is important to understanding baseball.

I think you're overreacting senselessly to what I'm saying. 99% of mathematicians can go about their lives without caring a damn about math logic. That doesn't mean it's "wrong" or "bad" or "incorrect" or whatever you think I'm saying, it's just not that important to most mathematicians most of the time.

>>8783448
Also I like how you act like I'm clueless about math departments yet don't seem to know what "group 1" means. Typical UG behavior.

>>8783945
expressing disagreement isn't really an "overreaction".

>>8783970
Maybe not you, but the people calling me "retard" and such.

>>8783965
Not an undegrad. You're talking to a pure mathematician. I know based on your comments you don't attend the universities I listed earlier. Also, I know in real life you wouldn't tell Stephen Simpson or Gerald Sacks that they aren't mathematicians.

>>8783973
Sure, but I don't see you justifying too well that math logic matters to most mathematicians. Which is, I suppose, a deviation from what I first said. Sure, call it mathematics and include Godel in whatever list you want, doesn't make math logic some super critical theory everybody's studying.

>>8783976
>>8783976
I'm refuting your initial argument that logic isn't apart of math. Not that logic isn't mainstream Mathematics. That assertion I agree with. But that isn't to say logic isn't important or that mathematicians who do logic are lesser mathematicians than those that do algebraic topology.

>>8783981
Sure, then we agree. I was more being sarcastic when I said "math logic isn't math", not trying to give a literal dictionary definition. So I'm sorry to have been misleading about it.

>>8783986
No problem

But logic is important, just consider AC and its consequences. We can't do math like "hm, hm, 1+1=2, it's common sense, therefor it's true".
I know what you mean, if your research area is PDE you don't need logic, but that goes for a lot of pairs: Does a game theory researcher has to care about category theory? Someone into measure theory about numerical methods?

Concerning Godel: The time he lived / was active, logic was a hot topic (if not _the_ hot topic) in mathematics (you are right, logic departements nowadays seem to be quite small, as far as I know). Think of the famous "foundational crisis of mathematics". Lots of giants were into this at this time: von Neumann, Hilbert, Russell, Brouwer, ..., and Godel, among them, stands out.

>>8784034
What does the axiom of choice have to do with logic?

>>8779335
the nigga dreamed up Cartesian coordinates

definitely feynman

>>8779330
fuck you Descartes' meditations is a lifestyle

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The man who destroyed Mathematics

Obviously the ones we study our technology around

Euler, Jacobi, Gauss, Shannon, Laplace, Maxwell, Lenz, Faraday, Lorentz, Tesla

But mostly Shannon for making up shit before it even existed

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>>8784849
>faraday
You realise we're talking about mathematicians right? He didn't even know trigonometry.

>>8784853
>physicists aren't also mathematicians

Here is your (you)

>>8784861
Did he invent any mathematics? Did he even use any mathematics?

>>8784883
You don't invent maths, you just discover it
It already exists

>>8784904
I hope you're not the guy that I was replying to

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>>8784904

>>8784912
I am, what of it

>>8784913
Disprove me

>>8784904
spoken like a true non mathematician

>>8784916
I'm not though, and neither are you
Reading some Calculus book /sci/ told you to read doesn't make you any less of a brainlet

>>8784915
Because you completely changed the subject to something which is completely irrelevant. What mathematics did Faraday discover? He was an extremely intelligent and successful experimental physicist/chemist, but he was not a mathematician.

>>8784921
i got a degree in it before i ever came on /sci/

im glad you can admit your true nature though

>>8784923
You cannot possibly be a well minded Physicist, but not also be somewhat of a great mathematician

>>8784926
Unless you actually have a PhD and have discovered new Maths, you're as true natured as I am.

>>8775873
In terms of raw potential, Ted Kaczynski is the best there was and best there ever will be.

>>8784928
>discovered new Maths

where was calculus before it was discovered?

>>8784928
>You cannot possibly be a well minded Physicist, but not also be somewhat of a great mathematician
That is a statement with no justification

>>8784932
Anon, please
Don't tell me you honestly think Nature just does things as it pleases without rules. Calculations have been done since forever.
Does it use our numbers like 1 2 and 3? Probably not, but we observed them then made expressions using our language.

>>8784937
Mathematics describes some things, but it doesn't mean it is those things.

>>8784139
Logic and set theory are highly connected. Logic, among other cool stuff, is concerned about axioms.

>>8784139
>What does a logical axiom have to do with logic?

>>8784950
Ofcourse not, you're right
But they try, is what I mean

>>8782091
>I mean, he thought 57 was prime...
Source?

>>8785007
http://www.ams.org/notices/200410/fea-grothendieck-part2.pdf

bottom right of the first page

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>>8779304
>Feynman and von Neumann are memes, and hardly even qualify as mathematicians

>>8775873

Off the top of my head, Pilar Magro is indisputably a modern legend, a trailblazer and an asset to human knowledge.

>>8784931
He got into Harvard to study pure math at 16 & Berkeley hired him when he was 25, that alone speaks to his raw potential.

>>8785007
>>8785009
I remember we reading in a journal he wrote that he failed a math exam because he wasn't good at arithmetic. Also, teachers counted off points on his homework because his proof didn't match the textbook. I remember he was obsessed about volume and his professors laughed at him saying volume was a solved problem. Most people would have thought he wasn't that gifted at math. He ran town over all of them.

>>8775884
physician >>>>> mathematician
dream on dud
kys

>>8775887
unlocking safebox

>>8780950
top kek

>>8781075
joker of our era
>>8782066
pleb

>>8784961
It is, quite literally, a nonlogical axiom.

what's the axiom of choice

>>8783927
of course,
leibniz.

>>8787396
In every family of non-empty sets you can pick/choose one element from every set.Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_choice

You need it for a lot of things, famous example: You use it to state that every vector space has a basis.

>>8775963

this

stay away from women and children

>>8784842

from now on math is just wizardry and larping

>>8775873
watson

>>8779330
>Cauchy
>not understanding Galois work
>genius

>>8775873
Why are you trying to establish a pecking order among professionals?
Pecking orders are for insects
Humans are more communal.

How are you defining intelligence?
Success?
Tenure?
Some arbitrary IQ measure?

As far as I see it, what you are asking is purely subjective and arbitrary as fuck; it is meaningless exercise, until you can find a definition for intelligence.

>>8788576
Op just means top rate mathematicians with no order rankings among them

I would very much like to know how von Neumann is a meme. I'm not arguing; I'm actually curious.

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do the best mathematicians get a lot of pussy?

>>8788759
No, not really

>>8788759
Schrödinger hecking did, but he's not quite mathematics

>>8788792
laughs indeterminately

>>8788792
GOAT-physician Einstein also frequently met women and I've heard that he was considered good-looking and charming by the ladies.

>>8788835
He never leaves his house and has become a lost soul of the world

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>>8788759
Only physicists
they have better verbal skills and are less autistic

>>8788759
well, Euler did have 13 children with a Russian qt

Why does nobody ever list current mathematicians who aren't in the news every month?

>>8782060
Serious question: what do you actually know about Grothendieck's work?

>>8785252
kek that's pretty good goy
Really made us up our security

>>8776036
Women are the Power of Society.

>>8782059
>Hilbert

This is the correct answer

>>8782059
That's a statement about mathematics, not about Hilbert.

>>8789606
But I did: Jean-Pierre Serre (>>8782070).
One you have to keep an eye on: Peter Scholze.

>>8782031
meme le meme

PatrickJMT

>>8784849
he didn't do any maths, retard. why do you think maxwell is relevant?

>>8788765

so they must fap a lot

>>8787396

Mathematical equivalent of hand-waving. Used to prop up unspecified functions and "convenient" existence theorems using axioms of set theory. You'll often see students parroting the definition without understanding it. See: >>8787680