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What does /sci/ know about Autism Spectrum Disorder (something I have)? What causes it?
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Women that are too damn old having children.
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>>8747064
*and men
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>>8747064
This

Mom had me at 38, guess what now

some people are dumbasses
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>>8747059
I'm diagnosed not autistic.
Apparently that's rather unique, since when kids get sent to experts on the subject, the experts tend to say "Yup, it's a sperg."
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>>8747162
My mom had me at 23, guess what still happened.
Not all causes are the same, you fucking idiot.
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>>8747190
>I'm diagnosed not autistic
Wow, I guess you're also diagnosed not influenza, am I right?
You make no damn sense.
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>>8747197
I was sent to an autism specialist in a country where overdiagnosis is common and came out without a diagnosis.
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>>8747200
Before I was diagnosed with autism I was diagnosed with schizophrenia, you never really know what you have because most psychologists are retarded. I bet you do have autism because you say shit like, "I'm diagnosed not autistic". That alone proves you have autism.
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>>8747192
It still increased the probability significantly
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>>8747192
>he does not understand shifting probability distributions
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>>8747209
Proof?
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https://youtu.be/xTsASVEwves
https://youtu.be/1OCVwFW53j0
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Is it true that autism manifests differently in females?
Reading through the symptoms quickly makes it sound as if male autism is just hyper masculinity while female autism is hyper femininity.
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>>8747059
Theories include
>Excessive androgen production.
>Neanderthal genetic traits.
>Epigenetic chaos caused by interbreeding (e.g., cro-magnons with neanderthals, or celts with germans).
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>>8747059
Well that's been about a decade-long argument but what actually causes it is either born that way if you have real autism, pollution and fake food if you have the MUCH MUCH MUCH more common brain-damage-related autism or ASD, and also a sulfur deficiency. The sulfur deficiency is explained by Dr. Stephanie Seneff and the difference between original autism and modern autism is explained on a blog by an Aspie somewhere that I was never able to find again after the browser crashed.
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>>8747202
Not even slightly, but functioning autistic people are known for incorrect grammar in ways that are not worth bullying them over (as opposed to people who are just complete idiots and can't spell "you" and therefore SHOULD be bullied), people with Aspergers on the other hand are known for being the bullies, especially on the topic of grammar. While Aspies do make grammar mistakes and especially spelling mistakes, it's not direct/obvious like it is in autism. The post you are replying to however is not a grammar mistake.
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>>8747246
>male autism is just hyper masculinity
yep. 'hyper masculinity' is sitting in a room by yourself doing math and playing with puzzles instead of roaming around outside throwing large rocks eating steaks and fucking women.
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>>8747246
What you are thinking about is a difference in Aspergers Syndrome, not a difference in autism. Since autism is mainly just deficits in thinking, and the social components are less harmful then they are in Aspergers since if the person is not retarded then their "deficits" are more likely to be of the "cute" kind, in my experience. And since that's the case I expect males and females to be much the same. However, if you have Aspergers instead of autism, then the female Aspie will be less severe because females naturally do "social cues" and things moreso then males, therefore they can learn the social things and they can also "pretend" things easier, apparently (that's what the female Aspies say). But neither male Aspies nor female Aspies exhibit particular traits of "masculinity" or "femininity", unless you count narcissism as a "male trait". And while I have witnessed the Aspergers narcissism in females, it's always been in the form of science-based narcissim where they DEMAND studies for EVERY last thing even in casual conversation, or DEMAND that they're "right" just because the title of some random study they link says something they t hink is true, etc., and of course this form of extreme science-narcissism is found in far more people then just Aspies. So I don't know if those females were Aspie-based-narcissism or just would-be feminists (as in, they probably would have been a feminist if they didn't have Aspergers Syndrome and therefore automatically know how stupid feminists are because they are the opposite of racists due to being Aspie). I have also been casual "friends" w/ two Aspie females who have never exhibited any narcissism in front of me. But I also would not consider narcissism a "male trait" anyway - and that is the only trait of Aspergers that I can think could ever be considered as "male" or "female" by anyone.
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>>8747273
>Neanderthal genetic traits.
Not really. Men are much more likely to be autistic, you can get autism from your father and you only get neanderthal DNA from female neanderthals.
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>>8747334
Yea it is if you think of males as less sociable, hyper masculinity would produce someone extremely anti social.
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>>8747111
Old men having children is not really a problem, not that I heard of.
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>>8747368
but being anti social is only 1 of many traits of masculinity. others include propensity for physical rather than mental exertion and hyper sexuality, pretty much the opposite of most autists
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>>8747368
But males aren't "less sociable". Even slightly. If anything they're more so.
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>>8747385
Older men can have a greater number of deformed sperm, but if that causes a problem I don't think it's autism that it would cause.
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>>8747395
"Autist" is actually an insult =\
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>>8747404
Can deformesd sperm spawn children though?
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>>8747423
If they can swim then yes. Deformed sperm do cause conditions. But the kind in precum do not cause pregnancy because they can't get into the vagina, those kind have extra parts (so there only swim in a circle) or they have bent tails. So there's some other kind of deformity, then. At least I have head of it before to cause this or that condition, but now you saying that makes me wonder if I really read it that way exactly. (The precum thing I am sure of.)
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>>8747334
spotted the aspie
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>>8747059
>Autism Spectrum Disorder (something I have)?
Something everyone has, to some degree.
Something the masses have to a severe degree.
>What causes it?
Ignorance, incivility, ego, pride, lust...
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>>8747246
Have you even been around autistic females? A lot of them are sexual deviants (don't know if that is a coincidence or not) but are still asocial.
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>>8747324
High-functioning autism and Asperger's are the same thing. In fact, Asperger's is not even a legit diagnosis anymore. Would probably still be one if Kanner's syndrome still existed.
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>>8747414
I'd rather be called an autist than a fucking ASPIE. Shit pisses me off so fucking much.
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>>8747717
>Something everyone has, to some degree
And I guess everyone has schizophrenia or mental retardation, to some degree.
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>>8747336
"Narcissism" in autism is really more on the lines of Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder. Really depends if anxiety is involved or not, that's why they get stressed out whether they're correct or not.
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>>8747234
>mfw he said praise kek at the end
Just another /pol/tard it seems.
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>>8747767
That's extremely wrong, and you are very stupid.

>>8747717
No that's just Aspergers.
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>>8747773
"Aspie" is a friendly term invented by the people who have it. And like anyone really wants to type out "Aspergers syndrome" every single time they have to say, which is a huge amount of times because of idiots like >>8748377
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>>8747788
No it isn't. OCD people don't scream at you because they are "busy" playing MMOs and therefore can't talk to you on the phone, which they can obviously do while playing anyway, because you are trying not to kill yourself after your abusive sociopath or narcissist parents did something heinous yet again. OCD people don't try to claim that you "couldn't have possibly meant that a different way" even though you literally just said you did and nobody besides an NPD or sociopath (something neither of us even knew about at the time) would ever lie about that ever unless they are in front of a teacher/cop/etc. OCD people don't complain about someone in conversation and then get mad at you for a month for agreeing that the people they are complaining about are wrong for doing that and saying something like, "That's terrible, they should have just done [whatever the person you are talking to was just saying they should have done]!"
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>>8748380
>>>8747773
>"Aspie" is a friendly term invented by the people who have it. And like anyone really wants to type out "Aspergers syndrome" every single time they have to say, which is a huge amount of times because of idiots like >>8748377
I meant to say idiots like >>8747767
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>>8747385
Well, you clearly don't read a lot, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect#Fertility_of_the_father
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a thread literally filled with autistic shitposting

amazing
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>>8747059

The thing that people forget about autism is that it does not imply any inherent disorder in the traditional sense. The medical literature simply defines it as delayed development particularly in the realm of socializing. It does not mean that they do not later develop these skills or are unable to. There are many people who were seemingly autistic when they were younger but kind of figured things out as they progressed through their 20s.

Anyways, the whole autism diagnosis doesn't even make sense to me. You have straight up crippled people (also diagnosed with aspergers. like those straight up downies you see on YouTube and shit) who get thrown in with the autistic diagnosis.

I don't think anyone really knows what it is and honestly it's starting to seem like some made up liberal nonsense designed to help people seek closure or feel better about themselves and to also give all the deadbeat professionals in this world a purpose in the job market.

literally no one in this thread is autistic.
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>>8748419
Some autistic people are retarded, and some or not. A retarded person should not be said to have Aspergers syndrome, IMO. But then I've only met two people who appear to be retarded who were said to have Aspergers, and one of those people only appeared retarded to me because of hand movements. In addition, some autistic people do not talk at all, but are also not retarded, because they type in normal sentences.

No one with a brain will voluntarily call themselves someone who has Aspergers because of the narcissism component and the psychiatry bullshit that soccer mom-type people might do to you, and the vast majority of people with actual autism (as opposed to Aspergers syndrome) are actually not capable of functioning in daily life such as remembering to pay bills etc., even if they are not fully retarded. Some autistic people are not retarded but the number is comparatively small enough tin relation to the other groups that ASD-related message board might not have it listed an option to describe yourself, for example, or that I have only ever seen two Facebook groups called "blah blah blah autistic" and both of those have a lot of Aspergers in there anyway. There are many reasons why some non-retarded ASDs may not be able to work at a job unless it's something like computer programming, and even if they can work at a job, they may not be able to get hired.

For example, SOME people with Aspergers who are dirty and gross, are that only because they literally do not see the stains on the shirt even if they looked at the shirt. SOME people with Aspergers who are gross are just doing it "because they don't feel like it".

In my personal experience, autistic people tend to be either a normal level of clean or extremely clean due to a cluttered environment disturbing them. But that is only about the autistic people who I've both met in person and been friends with long enough to be inside their house or bedroom. So it's a very small sample size.
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>>8748419
Job programs for people with Aspergers syndrome will only hire them into computer programming or other non-interacting or reptitive jobs, and job programs for autistic people hire them as bag boys and such because they work with retarded autistic people. Job programs for non-retarded autistic people do not exist, and they can't use the Aspie job programs either because they might not be at all happy with reading patterns of numbers all day, and would instead react to this the way an NT would. But they still might not be able to get hired, because most people are idiots and do incredibly disgusting things like trying to look into your eyeballs even though they are not in love with or asking very stupid questions that have no possible way to answer them such as "What is your goal for [something]?" or "How's your day been?".
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>>8747400
Men are slightly less social than women. That's probably because on stone age men went out to hunt and women stayed inside taking care of their children and gossiping with everyone else.
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>>8748409
It says that older men are less likely to have children (which I already knew). What I meant is that old men having children won't mean an increase in the likelyhood of birth defects, like with women, who are both more likely to be infertile and have retarded children.
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>>8747059
Social retardation. Most commonly found in males. Onset age for diagnosis is 0 years old. Doomed to die alone.
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>>8748380
Ironic because Asperger's isn't a diagnosis anymore. Hopefully that evil fucking term will die out. We Kanners now.
>>8748398
I said Obsessive-Compulsive PERSONALITY Disorder. And none of that is narcissism either. More Borderline probably. A lot of autistics have that. Either they don't have friends so who cares.
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>>8748456
Gossiping is the opposite of being sociable... females are more likely to fight and less likely to hang out
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>>8748419
Maybe research this shit before making assumption. Yes, autism can cause profound mental retardation but only in the most severe forms. Autism physically affects the brain so you can see it in an MRI scan. Even more so than Schizophrenia which is caused by too many dopaminergic receptors.
>literally no one in this thread is autistic
Well you're wrong. You just have to accept that, too bad you won't because /pol/tards are more autistic than anyone else.
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>>8748536
He has friends and yes that is literally narcissism. i.e. the literal exact same thing as an actual NPD would do, except for the one about complaining about people which is still something a literal NPD COULD do. And he has 0 traits of Borderline. And scientific narcissism isn't Borderline either.
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>>8748445
>and one of those people only appeared retarded to me because of hand movements
People with sensory processing disorder do that too and they don't even have autism. Please don't make assumptions and I forgive you.
Also, it's very, very, very rare for there to be an actual narcissistic or anti-social autistic person. It's usually in the form of ADHD, ODD, or DMDD. Autistic people just get angrier and stresses more than others. It's a fact. Mainly because of their increased size of their amygdala. Which has been proven by Temple Grandin.
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>>8748411
>shitposting
Don't know what that means. Not because I've never heard of it but because people use it in any situation or conversation when they hear something they don't like or is cringeworthy. I am thinking the latter, right? Autism in itself is a cringeworthy diagnosis. Literally socially awkward, unfit to live in society. Just let it be, just accept my autism. Maybe donate to a charity for autism? No? Then go on your way, friend.
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>>8748501
>Onset age for diagnosis is 0 years old
It's actually 9-12 months. No baby is ever born with autism. It's not physically possible. Maybe born with a significantly increased likelihood to get it, to the point that it's unavoidable.
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>>8748552
You are right in one aspect. Autistics are narcissistic in the fact that they consider objects to be more important than people. And there perspective may be significantly different than others. Narcissism in autism is very complex, but a lot of autistics don't mean it, and if they do then it is another issue. Most of it comes from autistics being obsessed with EVERYTHING being perfect, whether it's them or other people. That's why I suggested OCPD. But we can discuss more if you'd like. I honestly only took psychology throughout highschool but will probably take it in college, I just really don't like it. Though let's say I'm obsessed with it.
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>>8747213
>he does not understand shifting probability distributions
Yes I agree that's a cause but not the only one.
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>>8748546
>Autism physically affects the brain so you can see it in an MRI scan.

0/10, stick to /pol/ kid
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>>8748466
>What I meant is that old men having children won't mean an increase in the likelyhood of birth defects, like with women, who are both more likely to be infertile and have retarded children.
It will, though. Read the full article. It's been linked to autism and bipolar, and a bunch of other things. Sperm can go bad, too.
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>>8748734
???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_pruning
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>>874856ODD does not exist, and yes ALL, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, of male people with Aspergers are narcissistic, which obviously has LITERALLY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whether they are randomly accused of "having" some random disease that does not exist and is in fact literally impossible to even exist, such as "ODD". And example is your own narcissism when you say things like "Please don't make assumptions", regardless of the fact that in ADDITION to it being OBVIOUSLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to both exist and never make an assumption, you are not even replying to anything in which "assumptions" were ever made. And as far as I know ALL autistic people are so-called "anti-social", even though that is not a real word or valid for use in any way in conversation, because it is not possible to "be anti-social". And no it is not "a fact". People with NPD "just" get angrier and more stressed then others too,because they believe that everyone should do everything exactly as they demand at all times, even when they have never even spoken to them and never even literally heard of them. That does not somehow mean that it's somehow okay not to torture them. Of course people with Aspergers do not deserve to be tortured or anything just because they have Aspergers, but that does not somehow mean that they are "not narcissistic". IN addition, I NEVER said autistic people are narcissistic - in fact, I literally said the opposite, and said that they are not. And Temple Grandin is not exactly a reliable source of information! Try watching a speech by her and you'll know.
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>>8748568
Shitposting is supposed to mean "everything posted on /b/, and also memes and random fight-trolling", but if someone uses it now to mean "this is an insult" and "I disagree", they are just being an idiot. And I have not seen this poor use outside of 4chan. Of course the word and term itself is stupid from the beginning.
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>>8748574
It is physically possible. That's why SOME ASD is genetic, and is also why "real autism" is different then "brain damage and pesticide autism".
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>>8748821
>ALL, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, of male people with Aspergers are narcissistic
Yes but it has nothing to do with their "personality" dumb fuck. You know babies are more narcissistic than any age range?
>And Temple Grandin is not exactly a reliable source of information! Try watching a speech by her and you'll know.
Yeah even though she has autism and has done many studies almost her whole life. She's also done brain scans and shows that people with autism have physically different brains.
[spoiler]she's also my waifu[/spoiler]
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>>8748827
>That's why SOME ASD is genetic, and is also why "real autism" is different then "brain damage and pesticide autism".
I mean, that's what I have (real autism, whatever the fuck that means) but I think I meant is that's when symptoms really show.
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>>8748592
I have never seen an autistic narcissistic person, or at least moreso then anyone else is, or in one case, he was kinda but it could be semi-expected because this person was semi-retarded, but not enough to not be able to participate in Facebook. So I still don't call that the same narcissism as exists with Aspergers. I don't remember all the details of OCPD, in effects. I think it was basically Borderline. And also very stupid to name it that way. Maybe you personally like an object better then people. Maybe it's common in retarded autistic people as well. But normal autistic people (by that I mean, they are normal adults, etc.), want to keep their friends, unless they don't. Normal autistic people can still fall in love, and if you are in love then obviously nothing can possible be more important then that person otherwise it isn't Love. To say some disorder likes an object better then people? Unless you are referring NPD narcissists and just using it to mean they will be angrier if you break something unimportant but semi-expensive that they own then they will if you kill their wife because she is another human being and therefore doesn't matter, or if there's some kind of weird fixation disorder, I'm thinking in the way of people who have sex with cars type of thing, other then that it will be impossible and silly to say some disorder "thinks an object is more important then people". If so, that will be on the individual.
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>>8748836
Babies are not narcissistic. Being narcissistic LITERALLY IS personality trait. (Not to be confused with NPD, which is called a disorder.)
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>>8748849
When I said that autistics prefer objects I didn't mean that in the anti-social sense. Autistics can barely look at people in the eye, and I will only look at people in the eye if I am angry at them, it's a sign of aggression for us. He is right about narcissism but completely wrong about narcissistic personality. And I really did not mean to say "important", more like more interesting.
>>8748858
Why not google the term or take a Psychology course? Narcissism is more than just "i luv me :)".
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>>8748836
...Yes, very obviously, "even though" she has ASPERGERS, SHE DOES NOT FUCKING HAVE AUTISM SHE HAS ASPERGERS, USE ACCURATE TERMINOLOGY SHITFUCK, and has done speeches for PART OF HER LIFE, NOT HER "WHOLE LIFE", SHE DID NOT DO ANY SPEECH OR ANY STUDY WITHIN 1 SECOND OF WHEN SHE WAS BORN, yes "even though" that she is still an unreliable source of "information", as in when she does speeches etc. (And is also boring as fuck, in addition.) And it is not "even though", but rather, "that information is obviously completely irrelevant". If Temple Grandin was the only ASD person in existence then ASD would not exist as a term, In actual reality, she is NOT in fact the only ASD person in existence, and it is therefore EXTREMELY FUCKING OBVIOUSLY for ANY autistic person to comment on her accuracy of presentations, especially since she is NOT FUCKING AUTISTIC. But also EXTREEMLY OBVOIUSLY, it is SLDSO okay for ANY HUMAN BEING WHO IS AUTISTIC, ASPERGERS, OTHER DD, PDD, NT, SOCIOPATH OR OTHERWISE to comment on her accuracy or reliability as a presenter, because ALL HUMANS HAVE BRAINS OF SOME KIND AND OVER 99% OF THEM CAN MAKE JUDGMENTS ABOUT THINGS.
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Has anybody else's Aspergers subsided with time?

When I was around seven years old, I had it pretty bad. I would hum during class, and flap my hands all around. When i got tired I would bring my knees up into my shirt, tuck my arms in, and sit there immobile for upwards of an hour. I didn't realize what I was doing was weird as fuck at the time, but looking back on it It must have been seriously embarrassing to my friends at the time.

Fast forward twelve years and nearly every symptom I had has either massively subsided or gone away entirely. Has anybody else had this happen to them?
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>>8748866

Bro. Calm down. If you're having an autistic meltdown go see a shrink about it.
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>>8748866
>SHE DOES NOT FUCKING HAVE AUTISM SHE HAS ASPERGERS
Yes even though she didn't speak until she was 4 and could barely use basic vocabulary till the age of 5. Totally "ass burgers".
She's also mildly mentally retarded believe or not (savant syndrome basically). But is still more successful than any faggot /pol/tard out there, not including you, you're just 12 I bet. And stop typing in all caps, that's fucking annoying.
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>>8748884

This is why I think it's important to make the distinction between autism and Aspergers. While technically, Aspergers and autism are still both ASD, Aspergers seems to be a flavor of autism that is unique enough to warrant it's own name.
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>>8747162
>>8747192
>tfw mom and dad were both 18 when they had me
>I'm aspie/borderline between normal and aspie
>mom has another kid when she's 35
>he's 100% autism


tainted womb
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>>8748879
My symptoms actually got worse when I got older. When I was 4 I was diagnosed with ADHD, then fast forward to age of 14 it was "Schizophrenia" which was formerly redacted then 15 being (Bipolar disorder), and at last at 16 it was:
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Intermittent Explosive Disorder
Bipolar 1 Disorder with psychotic features/possible Schizoaffective Disorder
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
And Generalized Anxiety Disorder
It's already implied I have OCD, ADHD, And SPD but those are already on the Autism Spectrum so it's pointless doing that.
Now I don't take any medicine but I'm still having problems. Mainly because I can't focus for shit but can't take amphetamines because they seriously FUCK ME UP. Just like anti-psychotics which gave me permanent tardive dyskinesia but oh well, any means necessary I guess.
>>8748896
Then Kanner's should be a diagnosis then if Asperger's has one.
>>8748901
>he's 100% autism
What does that even mean? Profound autism or is this just a troll?
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>>8748864
Yes, autistic people as well as literally every other human being in existence with any sense of decency whatsoever, will not look directly into somebody's eyeballs even though they have quite literally just met them, do not like them, and couldn't possibly be in Love with them. WTF does that have to do with "liking an object"? There is no "he" referred to in my comment who could be "right about narcissism", unless you are referring to me myself in the third person in this sentence, in which case, I am female, and this sentence in your comment still does not make sense. Nothing that you have replied to during this facet of conversation says anything about NPD at all. Nowhere does anything say "an NPD narcissist". It just says narcissism or acting narcissistic. Why the fuck would I "Google a term" that is commonly used in everyday language and literally everybody knows what it means? And if you want to know about disorders and such, you should AVOID any "psychology courses" since they will be based on books written by psychiatrists, will demand drugging everybody, will use the DSM, and will also be incredibly wrong for additional reasons other then that. In addition, you cannot "take a psychology course" between one reply on the next on a message board,
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>>8748864
and in addition, people who already study psychology and understand it in great detail AND are empaths most obviously would not need to "take a psychology course" even if there were somehow a possibility that such a thing could be accurate or give true or useful information. Even when talking about NPD narcissists and sociopaths, anything said in that course is STILL wrong, since it will say "All covert narcissists and BPDs should be abandoned at all costs even if you already care for them, and no covert narcissist could possibly have any good traits or have any beneficial motives in mind in any situation ever", it will say that "NPD narcissists hate themselves and blach blah blah some long annoying and very retarded psuedo-explanation to pretend that they are something other then just extremely abusive assholes with no logical faculties whatsoever", but they will then say that sociopaths are "just assholes" when in reality some sociopaths actively try not to hurt people and it is well-known in the non-DSM-non-psychology population that sociopaths are a benefit in many cases, even the ones who do do cruelty on purpose, and also not all of the sociopaths who are assholes do cruelty on purpose. Some are assholes because they don't give a shit at all if anyone is hurt for anything, but also get no pleasure out of harming others and will not seek it out on purpose. So in the case of the very worst "disorders" one can be said to have, any psychology "course" is SEVERELY wrong even on ALL of those! Because if one was ever arrested illegaly by an extremely corrupt American police officer, and then arrested again because the first arreest made them homeless and they did not psuedo-voluntarily allow police to steal even more money from them, that definitely means that every single person this has ever happened to is a sociopath! (It's listed as "violating probation".)
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>>8748843
"Real autism" could be contrasted with Aspergers syndrome, in which your definition would kind-of make sense. But as I mentioned earlier people with Aspergers are narcissistic and all too, they bully people with autism on Facebook due to imperfect grammar, they do not try to understand other people like autistic people do, and in addition to that the actual disability is different. So that's one thing that could be meant by "real autism".

What you are talking about would normally be talked about saying things like "less autistic" or "more autistic". Although some people will argue and say it's somehow "wrong" to use those terms, but it's pretty obvious that some people are "more autistic" then other people, even when both people have the same functioning level such as being able to pay bills by themself or cook. Also I suspect that those who are upset by this term are probably just Aspergers being too literal again. Also Aspies are more literal and autistic are maybe literal sometimes but they'll say it's an accident if they weren't supposed to read it literally, and they do it less often. (The thing about being literal is my personal attestation and everything else is known by many people.)

However, what I meant when i said "real autism" is the thing in the blog that was referred to in an earlier comment. If someone was said to have autism or Aspergers in 1945, they will have, just like Downs Syndrome or any other disorder, similar personality traits, the same symptoms and the same disorder. But if someone in 2007 or 2016 is said to have ASD, and it's generally accurate, then the chance they have 1945 autism is extremely low because the "rate" increases so much that the percentage who have "real autism" (1945 autism) will be very low. Other ASD people, have autism-like symptoms due to brain damage. It was all explained in the blog, with sources.
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>>8748843
I really really want to find that blog again, to show to people, but there are other people who also know about this, who read things from different websites and sources over years. I learned it all at once from this blog...
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>>8748917
>unless you are referring to me myself in the third person in this sentence, in which case, I am female
It's formal to assume a person is male, I think I learned that in English. Or is it he/she? I don't know, not my fault that literally 97% of all 4chan users are male.
>Why the fuck would I "Google a term" that is commonly used in everyday language and literally everybody knows what it means?
It has more than one definition.
>you should AVOID any "psychology courses" since they will be based on books written by psychiatrists, will demand drugging everybody, will use the DSM, and will also be incredibly wrong for additional reasons other then that.
I mean, I took one in school but I guess you mean public education in Cuckistan is shit then I agree if so. Still learned more than talking to randoms on the internet. There's a reason why I am on 4chan instead of making IRL friends. I only have one friend in real life and guess what, he's autistic.
>>8748924
You are actually right about a lot of things. Psychology is sketchy as fuck but it's still better than what it was before. Back then they would abuse kids in mental institutions. If you go to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTCSfx47R1w at 30 min you can see how they treated this one severely autistic man. Literally giving him painful shock therapy in response to SIB. Ironic as fuck.
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>>8748879
I have autism, but used to think I had Aspergers because I didn't really know some of the most important differences between the two - the same ones that a lot of people don't know. The "symptoms" or traits that are like Aspergers DEVELOPED in my teens - 20s due to abuse. If I think whether I had autism traits when younger, maybe it's possible but I's have to think more and I wouldn't be able to complete thinking.
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>>8748883
People who are already perfectly clam cannot "calm down" you fucking moron. And also it is extremely obvious that no one should ever 'see a shrink" (except for BPD), and also that no one should ever refer to a profession as "a shrink".
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>>8747192
Do you have tourettes as well?
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>>8748884
She said she had Aspergers. If that's not true then maybe it's before she knew the difference. Oh wait, she uses mainstream psychology and DSM-like stuff, so she probably considers it the same. I am 32, and whether she's "successful" or not once again VERY FUCKING OBVIOUSLY has nothing to do with whether she is correct. She was wrong about her animal presentations as well.
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>>8748948
>>8748952
You can't use Asperger's anymore because it's really pointless to use. You can't change such a large diagnosis based on "personality" traits. There is a reason why we have personality disorders. And please explain what you mean about "real" autism?
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>>8748879
Yeah. I had this epiphany in high school that the reason why I was bullied in elementary school wasn't because they were assholes, but because they were pissed at me for being a tattletale. I didn't know what I was doing was wrong of course, and you're told to tell a teacher if a student was misbehaving, so I did. I had no clue I was being an asshole. I became more aware of my social skills after that.
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>>8748879
ASD can also be greatly affected by diet. Hand things are a coping skill. Since it's a developmental disorder you could have been making body movements "as a 5-year-old" when you were 8 instead of doing it "as an Aspie". You can also learn social stuff that you didn't know before and appear to go away. And for "severe" ASD, for example autistics who don't talk or Aspergers who do hand flapping, it could be considered to have "gone away" when they don't do those things anymore. So is it still there or not/ Well, what do you do that or or isn't similar to other people with Aspergers who you wouldn't have any idea about it unless you were first close friends with them for a year or else already know a lot about it all because the last person you were close friends with for year or more for?
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>>8748538
>Gossiping is the opposite of being sociable
How so? Caring enough about other people to bother gossiping about them is a very social activity.

>females are more likely to fight and less likely to hang out
If by fighting you mean being antagonistic to eachother, yes. But women tend to be very passive aggressive. They will never jeopardize their social status explicitly get revenge on someone, as opposed to men, who will very often engage in physicial combat.
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>>8748969
Nope. I am just sick of this bullshit where people always associate something from ONE thing. Like how autism is caused exclusively by vaccines or how people used to think it was caused by the "refrigerator mom". I am not really not angry when I say this, I just don't know any other way to use emphasis other than caps and swearing. Text is only a visual thing anyway.
>She said she had Aspergers
I didn't know that, she still considers herself autistic either way.
>She was wrong about her animal presentations as well.
You are correct, but animal psychology isn't very known anyway so she tried. She's probably the reason why "all cats have asperger's" became an inside joke from some time.
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>>8748967

> tfw obvious sarcasm and irony is misinterpreted in a thread full of autists

Typing in caps does not make people think you're calm.
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>>8748986
Nothing wrong with being a "tattletale" unless you are abusing your power for criticizing and chastising every little thing a person does and not forgiving their mistakes. Otherwise it's a-okay.
>>8748987
>Hand things are a coping skill
AKA sensory issues. Non-autistics also do handwaving and rocking too. Like Bill Gates for example, not autistic but probably had sensory problems or some movement disorder like akathisia or some shit.
>what do you do that or or isn't similar to other people with Aspergers who you wouldn't have any idea about it unless you were first close friends with them for a year or else already know a lot about it all because the last person you were close friends with for year or more for?
I must be severe because when I talk to people online, it only takes a couple hours for people to suspect I have autism. I don't know how they know. I don't stutter at all, people just say "he's autistic". Like, holy shit what did I do?
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>>8748996
I am probably guilty of that for swearing. But I do that because I fear no one will take me seriously if I don't, but vice versa too which is why it stresses me out.
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>>8748896
That's why you just say ASD when you mean both. Autism and Aspergers have entirely different personality, and most of the "symptoms" or "traits" are different as well - just not the ones the psychologists refer to, as much.
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>>8748994
>Like how autism is caused exclusively by vaccines
Vaccines and autism have nothing to do with each other
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>>8748912
"Intermittent Explosive Disorder" was originally made up by a troll on a faked website advertising a (fake) drug to "cure" it. One of the questions is "Have you ever been mad at least 3 times?". "Schizoaffective" is what your parents call you if they don't like you and are soccer moms. Someone once told me that ADD *IS* an ASD. Amphetamines are not medicine. They are drugs. Nothing to do with medicine. There are diets that pretty much fix autism, but works a lot better if you do the diets as kids. If you get mad easily and without a cause that's known to the people around you, hate people, want friends, want people to stop mistreating you, you mistreat others yourself, and also are nice to others, you might have Covert Narcissism. This is not the same thing as narcissism, which in the case of as a personality disorder it would be called Overt Narcissism. Overt narcissists are abusive but covert narcissists would say they are abusive by accident (and they wouldn't be lying when they say that). If you are a covert narcissist you will definitely relate to original songs by Chris Ray Gun and may relate to Disturbed songs when you are angry. Covert Narcissists are NOT "narcissists who pretend to be normal when they are at work in a local political position". Covert narcissists pretend their personality a lot but they do it almost 100% of the time and sometimes they are honest too.
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>>8748912
It means he is either "very autistic" or is autistic and retarded. Autism involves not using perfect grammar and Aspies should not bully or say "what the fuck" to them just because of it. It is ovbious what it means and if you're not sure then you should be nice about it. (I don't care if this is 4chan because this is the thing Aspies due to people with autism and also this is a discussion as it might be on Facebook or elsehwere during this topic.)

...OH no, I said "during this topic" instead of "in this topic"! Why don't you bully me for four hours even though there is absolutely zero possibility that you didn't understand what it meant and even though you claim that "others should treat others nicely and not bully for stupid reasons such as hairstyle"! Other autistic people do not know when they're using the wrong grammar until it's pointed out. "More autistic" people, on a high level, might not be able to think of a batter wording at all. If you are an Aspie, then get the fuck over it. The kind of thing you'd think Aspies WOULD Be reasonable about since the very same problem affects the Aspies, in other areas!
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>>8748953As for referring to an unknown as male or female, it can be any or you can say s/he (you don't need the whole word of each), but the reason I didn't know is because it didn't make sense to say that to me in response to the linked comment. I didn't say anything about two different kinds of narcissism or about NPD vs. narcissistic behavior in a normal person, and additionally I could not match the structure of the sentence itself to those things and regarding my comment.

I would say narcissims doen't relaly have more then one definition, it sort of does but in daily conversation it doesn't. For the different definitions you would say "he is a narcissist" vs. "there is narcissism in Aspergers" or "he is being narcissistic", and even then, they still would not be referring to NPD unless someone specifically says so. I was never referring to NPD in any comment in this conversation. People with Aspergers do not have NPD. But, they are narcissistic, and NOT just "by accident". Not exactly purposely maliciously, but purposely trying to fight more at times, they do do the latter, and it's not just "Oh I just didn't understand", becvause #1 it's too extreme to be "just" that and #2 whatever they didn't understand, if anything, was already told them 4+ times in a way they do understand, for example, "That's not what I meant".

I don't mean that education is bad, which it is. What I meant is what I said - psychology is bad. Psychology is inaccurate. One should no take a "psychology course" if omne wants to leanr about how people think and what type of personality people with different disorders have. "Violated probation" is a physical attack towards you that is not within your control. It is not a "trait of sociopathy" (called ASPD in the DSM). "Doesn't listen to authority" is not a trait of ANY "personality disorder" because it is LITERALLY NOT POSSIBLE to be a trait of such.
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>>8748953
>>8748953
"Doesn't listen to authority figures" is a trait of basic intelligence in which you actually look things up and make your own decisions. If you're a cop or soldier then it's a trait of "not being a torture promoter and torturing innocent people for no reason", when you refuse to do so to non-evil people. "Not looking into people's eyeballs who you aren't in Love with, and DEFINITELY not demanding they do so to you" is a trait of "basic human decency" and "not being abusive". And any article written about BPD or covert narcissism ("covert narcissism" being a disorder) is highly disgusting/arrogant/bad, as mentioned in some other comment. Then on regular NPD they do the opposite and claim he's "trying to fell better and humanity blah blah" when, no, that's just "evil". Non-drug therapies written by psychologist may sometimes be reliable, but sometimes not - such as a psychology-related "treatment" for autism (in children) is "being abusive and demanding towards them, telling them they are not allowed to sit in a comfortable position and must do things reserved for lovers or else they will be punished". But the psychology-course textbooks are written by psychiatrists. A "field" which is literally evil - and has always been denounced by even other doctors, who are themselves not often reputable in many circles.

I learned about different disorder by talking to people on Facebook AND by actually interacting with people who have them AND by being an empath AND by listening to ACTIVIST "psychological people" AND by reading articles from all sources, including the blogs of day-to-day feelings of people who have them and something that describes actual people, such as "m husband", rather then a retarded list about whether someone has been accused of violating probation or not. I learned about non-evil sociopaths by talking to non-evil sociopaths online. I also have one ex-boyfriend who is a non-evil sociopath.
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>>8748953
Many psychologists are motivated for good reasons but are brainwashed into using the abusive DSM and locking up people in "facilities" to be tortured instead. Psychiatrists on the other hand are evil on purpose. And psychiatrists are the ones writing a book used in a "course'.
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>>8748953
I am a geek, so having autism does not prevent me from making friends. Poverty prevents me from making friends. But autism does not prevent anyone else from making friends either, unless they are doing the hand thing or not talking to anyone at all ever, i.e. a ",mute" who only types (I'm obviously not including retarded autistic people here). What "prevents" them from making friends is when they are trying to talk to people who like Kim Kardashian and Justin Beiber and to soccer moms, instead of talking either to geeks if they do anything related to geekdom, or to people who like trains if they are Sheldon. (Of course Sheldon is not an Aspie he is a NPD narcissist.) But that that non-narcissist autistic person who actually has the knowledge on whatever subject they are about (unlike me, who has not enough geek knowledge to talk to other geeks because of poverty ''( ), and is not a NPD narcissist, goes to the train convention regularly, then they can make friends there,
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>>8748986
ASDs who DON'T do what their parents and police tell them, just because thy do, unless they did so by accident, make much better people.
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>>8747162

My mom was 39 when she had me and I'm fine for the most part.
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>>8748990
If you engage in "gossiping" then you specifically DON'T care about people. It can also be done over the phone and with people you don't care about in the slightest and actively hate. Men are, as mentioned, more likely to actually hang out. Stereotypical women will just stay home and schedule exact times for everything and not necessarily form any kind of bond while out doing something else. They might even merely just go shopping together, doing a chore instead of an actual social activity! ASDs also do not care about any "social status" then again neither do "all or most females, as a whole," even stereotypically. If you replace "female" with "cheerleader" then fine, but that would be even more inapplicable to ASD.
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>>8748994
I don't know about anything with animal psychology. I was referring to vegetarianism and other animal activism. Like most who do this kind of thing, she claims that "farming is bad for the environment because cows are diseases", while completely omitting and concealing the non-diseased, pasture-raised, happy cows who suffer zero whatsoever other then the part of the actual killing, cause no environmental problem and etc. But there was something she said about that that was "more untrue" then other such non-vegan presenters (don't' remember if she is vegan or not, but I'm referring to vegans as the stereotype here) that I had seen at that time would say. On the other hand, I had not encountered militant vegans personally yet in my life, either.

Vaccines DO cause autism SPECIFICALLY, even though the more common response to that is to mention all the other problems they cause, such as paralysis and other brain damage and the disease itself etc., because only 2 vaccines are specifically verified by their inserts and researchers who made the vaccines etc. to have caused autism specifically. Of course, there is also the "mental retardation that the mothers and psychologists call autism but really isn't", but then again, as mentioned earlier, almost all ASD is he brain-damage-type anyway. It is also caused by pesticides, pollution, genetic inheritence, and sulfur deficiency, all of which have science backing them as cause. I do not know what the specific science is on the genetic one, but you do see families of autistics who are eating properly once in a while, and one of the three people who said that a genetic component has "been proven" was not a vaccine promoter or soccer mom or other specifically-unrtustworthy type of person, as well as something I saw in mainstream magazine which seemed legit though it was before I knew very large amount about how to tell. So for now, I'll assume that science on the genetic inheritance as one cause is also valid.
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>>8749008
That's because when they say it online it's an insult and has nothing to so with whether you actually have it or not. Hey, heard of Tumblr?! Unless you're in a no-troll no-mean all-honest thread in which you're saying "Do I have autism?" or someone's replying to some life issue you're posting about by saying, "You might be autisitc, the reason I think this is because X, and if you are then consider YYYYY in response to this life problem". Anything else, and it's just meant as an insult. I think literally everyone who participates in "being online" is called autistic. But then, the fact you didn't think of it that way or didn't know that, if that's relevant, could mean that you are.
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>>8749098
>If you engage in "gossiping" then you specifically DON'T care about people.
You don't care about people's well being, but you care about what they are doing. If you are more concerned about solving a puzzle or reading a book, you are less social than someone who spends their time thinking about other people's lives and is able to talk about it with other people.
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>>8749013
Yeah, just ask the actual CDC researchers and the actual inserts to the vaccines themselves, and the courts!
...Oh wait, they'll all say otherwise.
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>>8749130
On the other hand, if you are more concerned about actually talking to others without gossiping, and actually going to wherever you are supposed to be going, telling jokes and passing beers, as a "masculine traits person" would be, then you are being more sociable then the gossiping people.
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>>8747064
Bs, my parents had me when they were 22 and I have asperges.
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>>8749013
Yes and I was implying that that doesn't happen.
>>8749032
>"Intermittent Explosive Disorder" was originally made up by a troll on a faked website advertising a (fake) drug to "cure" it.
Proof?
> "Schizoaffective" is what your parents call you if they don't like you and are soccer moms.
.......What?
>If you are a covert narcissist you will definitely relate to original songs by Chris Ray Gun and may relate to Disturbed songs when you are angry.
I listen to 80's music, dad rock, techno, house music, and christian gospel. What did he mean by this? I guess I would agree with you with the rest.
>>8749036
Don't know why you keep mentioning autism and grammar. Not my fault most kids nowadays can't spell for shit.
>>8749054
Yeah, that's what I meant when I said that narcissism and NPD are not the same thing. In fact, everyone has narcissism to some extent.
>>8749075
>I learned about non-evil sociopaths by talking to non-evil sociopaths online. I also have one ex-boyfriend who is a non-evil sociopath.
That's great because evil doesn't exist and never will. Unless Satan comes back and drowns the entire Earth in hell fire, we will see till then.
>unless they are doing the hand thing or not talking to anyone at all ever, i.e. a ",mute" who only types
An example of that is Carly Fleishman I think.
And when you mentioned Sheldon are you talking about the guy from the Big Bang Theory? I once talked to a therapist who said he likely had autism. But that's just his character so you'd never know.
>>8749114
>Vaccines DO cause autism SPECIFICALLY
I had to do research on that in College, couldn't figure much shit out so I wasn't sure.
>>8749129
But recently when I was called autistic, it was guys from /vg/ when I was playing with them and they were 100% serious surprisingly.
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>>8749232
What you "always listen to " has literally nothing to do with whether you would relate to the lyrics of the songs by the people I mentioned. If someone is a covert narcissist they will relate to those lyrics, and whether they have ever listened to music before or not is obviously irrelevant.
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>>8749232
I have "mentioned autism and grammar" once that I know of, and that is because people with autism use improper grammar in easily-forgiveable ways,. and people with Aspergers do not do that often and bully autistic people when they do. You would know that that's the reason if you read the comments in which it is mentioned. People who can't spell "you" have nothing to do with it because those are colloquial retards rather then autistic.
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>>8747059
Autism is a made up disease, like ADHD.
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>>8747064
I'm autistic, and my mother had me at 20
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>>8749232
You can read the whole post and see the quotation marks. Of course, evil does exist otherwise prisons would not exist. In order for a prison to exist there has to be either serial killers and rapists on the planet, or none of those but people who are willing to build prisons anyway solely to torture normal everyday people for smoking weed or who didn't see a stop sign at 3am with no possible danger. We have both. But you can see the quotation marks.

A lot of people say Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory has Aspergers but they are wrong, according to me and my boyfriend who both have autism, as well as to random people from many different American cultures who agree on Facebook when I post this. That therapist is putting autism and Aspergers together if she said that, Sheldon doesn't act autistic at all (as opposed to Aspergers). However, it's pretty clear to me, my boyfriend, and those people on Facebook that he actually has semi-mild NPD. He knows sarcasm from the first season and uses it to cleverly insult people. He constantly claims he is "better then" everyone else in the group because "his degree is in a superior field". He uses the word "superior" to describe himself all the time. He refuses to apologize for anything ever, unless it's a very minor thing, and even then the apology is not sincere or felt of as a flaw in his own behavior. NPD narcissists also exhibit flaws/lack of knowledge that are the same as ASDs, except that it's to a level that even ASDs will think they're stupid for it, and the reason is because they don't care enough about other people to bother observing them or knowing what they are doing unless it's for selfish reason, paranoid reasons, or revenge reasons, in which case IRL they'll still make flaws in the observations.
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>>8749232
For example, when the NPD who lives here insists that "Babylon 5 is more popular then Star Wars", but when I say that is extremely obviously not true, he says it would be "impossible for me to know that". Myself and the Facebook people have dealt with NPDs in real life, and we are also empaths. A less-empathic person would be perhaps less likely to notice or care about Sheldon's NPD traits, especially since he is not abusive. There are even people who don't notice Donald Trump is NPD - it's NEVER been mentioned in the media ONCE - let alone for Sheldon.
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>>8749232
The phrasing and "I don't knows" in you're responses do make you seem autistic, not Aspergers, to me as well, at the moment. However, we are currently discussing autism, and what I've seen so far would not make me tell you you have autism if we were not discussing it.

Maybe people on /vg/ are less 4chan-ish due to in-depth discussion of the plots and techniques? I can't post in there because I've never seen a game that I both like and know about, and also an OP which uses enough non-4chan English for me to know what he's talking about, in the same OP.
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>>8749232
The REASON why anti-vax movements exist is BECAUSE they have studied the science, for example of how these ingredients interact with the body. There is both the fact that poisons like aluminum are mercury are dangerous, as well as the fact that there is high amounts of corruption in general - even less testing required legally then there is with other pharmaceutical drugs, thimerosol (mercury) still being included in vaccines after the company claimed it had been removed, and was found in the versions that were labeled "mercury-free", etc. A common response to pro-vax people who write flaming posts about autism used to be, "...Yes, we fucking know that, but it does cause retardation, death, and all these other conditions." Someone who has studied a lot more then the first guy might write (this time, accurately), "No, vaccines do not cause autism, they cause inflammation and brain damage which leads to the symptoms of X and X and which affect them for the rest of their life and leads to a diagnosis of autism." Which is how the majority of autism today works anyway, as was outlined in that one blog I mentioned earlier. Genetic autism is not regressive (this is according to my personal life experience). Regressive autism is when someone who is normal until between ages 2 - 5 then becomes autistic. It does NOT happen that way to all autistic children; for example my one-year-old does not know his name. In addition to simply developing autistic symptoms/traits, some children have severe acute reactions to vaccines, in which they will become "comatose-like" for a few days, or just simply not know things they used to know like the alphabet, while acting less interested in activities and don't play much of anything. After those days or weeks pass, they become "normal" again but will later be diagnosed with autism. Some of the children with the acute reactions are not diagnosed with autism and more are just mentally retarded.
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>>8749232
Some may be diagnosed later with a permanent or long-term medical condition instead. Or both. Or none. Stories of the children who experienced the acute reaction are in large numbers and are extremely easy to find, usually either in personal blogs or on websites dedicated to these stories. Occasionally you can even see them in MSM such as the local news or Huffington Post. Often, the parents call it "autism" because they don't know a lot about autism, but sometimes an actual autism diagnosis does result. In other cases, there is the regressive autism, which is seen developing slowly but can sometimes be pinpointed to within a few weeks of those vaccines. People arguing against it will say "that's just how autism works" but that is not at all true, because if it was then nobody would show autistic before that age, something which both of my autistic children have done (as well as can be seen when psychologists are diagnosing kids before age 1).

However, since the time of when many people used to respond by saying "We already know that, you're stupid for constantly saying autism, and here are all the masses of diseases that vaccines do cause", some additional information has come out. There are two specific vaccines which are specifically known to cause autism. One is MMR. For these two vaccines, researchers who work on the vaccine have come out publicly and described how research results were hidden. There is something that was commonly cited about one of those two vaccines correlating to higher diagnosis rates in black children only, but there was also additional information besides that one (that is the one that pro-vax people are most likely to know about). There are other researchers and industry members who have either given interviews or been "caught accidentally" talking about hiding dangerous results of vaccines, not related specifically to autism.
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Time to dump my autism folder. Here is the first part.
Remember: don't take everything at face value.
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>>8749232
Autism was also listed as a consequence IN THE VACCINE INSERT in one of the vaccines at one time. I'm guessing MMR. (I personally saw this on inserts, but I assume they may have removed it since due to the politicization.)

In addition to all of this, even the concept behind vaccines, the idea that injecting a virus will cause you to have future immunity to that virus, is wrong. This is explained in video lectures by Dr, Stephanie Seneff, with all the information about how the body works etc. There are also sometimes other human biologists who explain it in videos.

Some information against vaccines is written about on this website: http://whale.to/v/ingredients.html . They also have a section specifically for autism. I have not looked through this info listed here, but this site is known to link to reliable, well-explained scientific information on other controversial topics.

nvic.org is presented "here is the information, make your own decision". But I do not see a lot of scientific information linked on a single page while I was looking at it real quick, so I went to the other site instead.


In the first two vaccines invented, polio and another one, the rates of the disease declined MORE quickly in countries that did not use the vaccine. Plagues have a natural point where they start to die down after a time, and the vaccine was introduced (we say purposely) right after that time was seen to have started. Some countries rejected the vaccine because there was controversy and rejection over it at that time as well, and throughout the time we have been using them.

Another "adverse reaction" to vaccines is when they cause the disease they are "for" -because they have literally just injected you with that disease. This seems to happen most commonly, or at least is most often reported on, in the flu vaccine.
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From Iain McGilchrist: The Master and his Emissary.
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>>8750929
Same source.
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>>8749232
Autism was also listed as a consequence IN THE VACCINE INSERT in one of the vaccines at one time. I'm guessing MMR. (I personally saw this on inserts, but I assume they may have removed it since due to the politicization.)

The reason I said "specifically known" is because of this insert and because of the researchers and industry people who worked on the vaccines who have been seen admitting it in interviews etc.

In addition to all of this, even the concept behind vaccines, the idea that injecting a virus will cause you to have future immunity to that virus, is wrong. This is explained in video lectures by Dr, Stephanie Seneff, with all the information about how the body works etc. There are also sometimes other human biologists who explain it in videos.

Some information against vaccines is written about on this website: http://whale.to/v/ingredients.html . They also have a section specifically for autism. I have not looked through this info listed here, but this site is known to link to reliable, well-explained scientific information on other controversial topics.

nvic.org is presented "here is the information, make your own decision". But I do not see a lot of scientific information linked on a single page while I was looking at it real quick, so I went to the other site instead.


In the first two vaccines invented, polio and another one, the rates of the disease declined MORE quickly in countries that did not use the vaccine. Plagues have a natural point where they start to die down after a time, and the vaccine was introduced (we say purposely) right after that time was seen to have started. Some countries rejected the vaccine because there was controversy and rejection over it at that time as well, and throughout the time we have been using them.

Another "adverse reaction" to vaccines is when they cause the disease they are "for" -because they have literally just injected you with that disease.
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From Christopher Badcock - The Imprinted Brain
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>>8749232
This seems to happen most commonly, or at least is most often reported on, in the flu vaccine.
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>>8750935
Same source: comparison between the psychotic spectrum and autism spectrum
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>>8750937
Same source: mechanistic cognition vs mentalistic cognition.
Take it with a huge pile of salt.
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>>8750941
Same source again. The genetic conflict between maternal genes and paternal genes according to the imprinted brain theory.
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>>8750929
This is terrible and unreadable. The board does allow uploading of PDFs.
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Last stuff I have which I found randomly on the net.

Take this also with a huge(r) pile of salt, it needs to be tested.
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>>8747059
I'd avoid the whole "puzzle piece" shit too. It was coined, or at least mainly promoted by, AutismSpeaks.
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>>8750949
Bad luck for you, just came here to dump my junk.

Sort yourself out.
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>>8750950
Autistic people can easily be creative. Some like to draw, and I know of at least too very good fictional authors who are autistic. Just because SOME and NOT ALL autistic people get mad if you attempt to use a hypothetical situation as an example, does not mean that autistic people can not be creative. Autistic mutes are also creative, in which they do expressions through art projects, and communication through gesture can also potentially be creative. ASDs are also LESS inhibited then the general population - have no problem dancing around in the middle of the street, but do know that it's "socially unusual" to do so.
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>>8750954
Irrelevant. Whether I am "sorted" or not, whatever the fuck that means, does not somehow magically remove the blurriness from your image file. As any image file of a PDF or website can be expected to do, hence why it's normally a stupid way to store things, except in rare cases such as a screenshot of a Facebook comment for proof to police or for investigative YouTube.
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>>8750961
Don't draw conclusions too fast on that image. I know that autistic people can be good drawers but usually they replicate stuff. From what I know. I think Stuart Kauffman had something to say about it, but unsure.
>>8750965
I was joking with the sort yourself out stuff. And I don't see why you are entitled a good image. I might share these pictures on 4chan once in a while they are otherwise my private collection.

You can easily find the book online if you know where to look. I can tell you that the second part of the book is unsatisfying and highly speculative.

Also I don't get how it is so blurry when I can read it just fine.
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>>8750980
>Stuart Kauffman
I mean Scott Barry Kaufman. My mistake.
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>>8750980
Writing a good story cannot be replicated. I know two people who write amazing stories, one 8-year-old who likes to write stories, and one person who writes poetry that I think is moderate rather then good but that does make well-use of metaphors.
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>>8750920

That comparison is blowing my fucking mind.
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>>8750980
Even though the blurriness looks visually minor, the fact that it gives a hard headache to read it makes it unreadable anyway.
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>>8750952
Ironic because I actually liked to do puzzles as a kid. What's wrong with using the puzzle piece?
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>>8750936
After the flu epidemic you'd think people would care less about what's in the vaccines. Rather have autism then to have the world go extinct because of the fucking flu. But vaccines don't cause autism so it doesn't matter either way.
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>>8749021
This, what the hell is going on here
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>>8749021
Psychology is a science.
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>>8749013
>believes everything they hear from what they perceive to be authoritative sources

Ex: I'm an authority on this, and you're wrong/dumb

Now go use your internet connection to read a second opinion on what really happened to the "discredited anti-vax doctor" that was canned for even questioning the science industry
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>>8747059
vaccines
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>>8754834
Get out.
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>>8750937
>delusions of
>being watched
>persecution
>conspiracy
What an unfortunate condition! Unless of course, there was like, evidence supporting all these 'feelings'

>>8750941
>hard
>science
>implying science doesn't follow the tradition of alchemy
>believes cognition can be purely factual as well as genetically determined
>doesn't believe mind state is fundamental to health

Pure academic garbage
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>>8754849
I did say you need to take it with a huge pile of salt. I think these generalizations are the weakest part of the book.
I feel you take part 8750941 way too literal
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>>8747246
>>8747336
All I know about female aspies is that they are freaks in the sack. Anal, facials, the whole shebang.
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>>8747414
Shut up, autist
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>>8755056
I am not the only one who realizes this?
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Is it okay I keep bumping this thread because I ain't letting this fucking thread die, know what I mean?
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>>8754842
no
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>>8756959
Yes
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>>8747059
How do you cure autism?(asking for a friend)
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>>8756999
Death
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>>8747059
>What does /sci/ know about Autism Spectrum Disorder
It doesn't exist.
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This is a weird thread
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>>8747059
late, but one thing i know is apparently every anon on chan has it
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>>8758725
What do you mean?
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