Crash Course Sociology

>>8746824
I have an MS in sociology so I'm hoping they don't screw this up.

I'm doing sociology in college here in UK and it's more like feminist studies than actual sociology ( im 18 of course )

>>8746824
Reminder that Karl Marx was one of the three man founders of Sociology, and Sociology is Marxist bullshit

>>8746824
>those problem glasses

Jesus. What is it with these types and problem glasses? Even my Sociology lecturer had them

>>8747218
Durkheim is 1000x better than Marx

>>8747198
I can relate. My high school sociology course has discussed only women and feminism for two months.

It, or the one who made it, whom is a she, maybe knows sociology, yet she lacks the art of story telling and didactic skills.
If you watch the crash course, that's all you do. You just watch someone who talks a lot about a subject, but does it in a way that you will be forgotten most of it's essential cores that it tries to offer.

Too bad. Understanding sociology helps you understanding most official settings like work floor, gouvernment offices, court of law and your own school. It will make you sharp for situation that are designed to undermine society.

Sociology is not a science, no matter how much they want it to be.

>>8747256
Sociology is knowledge about groups. And that knowledge can be studied. So it can be a science. Do you understanding principles or do you just learn facts? Intelligent people use facts, because if applied in principles they are logical. Who ever debates if something is a science or not misses the point of study completely. Those fact learners might become wise someday, but then they are to old to be heared by the listeners. . . Pretty sad actually

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>>8747266
I'm not saying it can't be factual, but the fact that it often bases its theories around Marxist class and Feminist gender analysis means that it's only viewing society through one perspective-which they call the "Sociological perspective" (which, why would a so-called 'science' have a 'perspective' in the first place?)

>>8746824
I'm impressed, they were able to go about 5 minutes before starting the attack on white males and pointing out their historical privilege.

>>8747269
I studied psychology and sociology was part of it. Sociology just opens your eyes on how and why groups are formed. To me it was valuable. For example, I worked in the military and you could see sociology work. But we have 4 dogs at home. Even there you can see it. You can see it in religious cults and even on 4chan. Or in sports, gangs, everywhere, if you get the concept.
Social sciences are all about the concept, the bigger picture. At the end its purpose is to get a more clear view of the complete picture.

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>>8747307
An interestingly idealized point of view, and valid for you if that's what you do with your sociology.

Would you understand the point of view of someone who asserts that, in the Real World (tm), sociology is largely used to allow adherents of a particular ideology to make up a "scientific" basis for claiming their pre-existing beliefs are spot on?

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>>8747307
I agree, but I think the heavy Marxist/Feminist/Leftist bias is quite evident, especially in Sociology textbooks. Almost everything is analysed through 'Oppressor vs Oppressed' dynamics, and theorists are almost always Leftist (e.g. Karl Marx, Judith Butler, etc). You see very little mention of Herbert Spencer, likely because his ideas of Social Darwinism aren't PC.

My main issue is Sociologists calling it a science. It's not a science. The closest the social 'sciences' come to science is the field of Economics, because it's backed by Mathematics and proofs. But it's still not sn exact science.

>>8747241
That's true for most educational videos.
That's why books are still one of the best methods to learn since you actively have to engage.

>>8747307
>could see it work
>see
Freud, you're not a man of science

>>8746824
(((sociology)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8pPbrbJJQs

sociology departments should basically be given to economists to run

the sociologists who can do real research and test their hypotheses and models against empirical evidence in a systematic and effective way will remain employed by the economist head of department and the sociologists who can only write embarrassing garbage like "gendered perspectives on global warming" or 'discourse analysis' consisting of cherrypicking particular examples of media, or other buzzfeed/jezebel/slate/everydayfeminism-tier posts will lose their jobs.

>>8747347
"Hey, Earl, we need a completely depressing repetitive and just a; around bad piece of music for this new video about cultural Marxism. See what you can find, will ya?"

"No problem, I got a cello piece right here..."

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>>8747313
But that's just the way the masses are misslead. By science. And that is mostly where control comes from. Try to sound smatter then the other guy, and that other guy usually is someone who rather play this Playstation and surf for the hottest porn instead of gaining more insight in real life situation. Or ask the wrong source for that matter. It's like asking a bank to control your money. Just by asking the one who shouts the loudest about knowing all about money, you show you don't understand the game...

Have a problem with your relationship? A counselor would be stupid to help you. You will bring in the money and because they know the material, they can keep you comming back giving you just enough to make it untill the next session.

Or go to a diëtist to help you if you are not happy with you weight. .. Right. You just showed you are willing to pay for something you can't fix and you asked the one you should not.

Education is like that too. Schools are designed to prepare young people for society. They don't need to understand, they need to follow and be needy.

That's why there are Left Hand Path Initiative Societies. To educate those who are capable to occupy certain positions.
Schools keep you busy, Esoteric Communities shape you to rule.

But if you are really intelligent you can get pretty far. Everything is out in the open. Hidden in plain sight. Clear to see for those who are not blinded.

>>8747360
>a; around

"all-around"

>>8747283
For a moment there I thought she was not going to get into muh privilege but oh boy she did.

This makes me wonder, what do sociologists do? Do they only see a setting and then break it down into "the privileged" and "the opressed"? Is that literally all you do? Classify people as opressed or privileged?

What a boring fucking life holy shit.

>>8747360
It lasts 10 seconds and there is nothing wrong with the cello

>>8747344
Implying the military does not use social science to perfect their efficiency. ...

You need more life experience anon, time in the field. Only reading gets you no-where

>>8747381
>experience
>limited subjective perception of reality
Oh yes, enlighten me with your great wisdom.

>>8746824
Thankfully I got my introduction to sociology before it got fully taken over by dogmatic ideologues. That way I was able to have fun with the subject, and I fully appreciate the fact that it's not a science, and that every ideology has its weaknesses, as opposed to today where teachers will just preach at you and hold the axioms of their ideological framework to be infallible.

>>8746824

>sociology

this is a board about science. faggot.

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>>8747266

>B- B- B- BUT SCIENCE JUST MEANS KNOWLEDGE GUYS!!!!

>>8747241
>It will make you sharp for situation that are designed to undermine society.
So it's indoctrinating you to see everything through an ideological lens where every institution, set of norms/values, law, country, structure, object and conversation is the product of some conspiracy designed to remove power from people. Ok.

>>8747438
Why should I have what you want?
But I do have some years of experience in the military. I do have some years of experience as teacher. I do have experience in a lot of other situations.
Always funny to see how some of you get intensely personal when their point of view is being questioned or at least an alternative is served.

But you know all? Good for you. Now take a photo of it and go post it on your Facebook.

>>8747266
But unfortunately this "knowledge" is plagued by biased studies with small sample sizes, poor statistical methods, and tricks to inflate p-values. Studies are conceived as a way to support ideology more frequently than ideology is revised to accomodate new studies, and all the time we see this gives rise to inconsistencies between the ideologies and reality, and even within the ideologies themselves.
Ideologies are made to become more flexible so that they don't completely shatter when exposed to new data, but this entire robs it of all power to accurately describe or predict sociological phenomena.
Sociology does not provide knowledge.

>>8747307
As far as explaining how/why groups are formed, sociology is really just intuition masquerading as science. That's the reason why you read a book on sociology and are left thinking "Yeah, that explanation makes sense... Apart from when you apply it to all these cases that aren't accounted for".

>>8747512
Society is created with that in mind, yes.
That does not mean sociology is.
But if you think school will teach you the whole picture... there are so many places to learn, keep broaden you horisons. That is the purpose of science anyway. To learn even more. Those who stick to the classes they have at school will find themselves unable to keep up with those who really wanted to understand a topic and took every chance they had to digg even deeper.

And these are not even my ideas. Philosophy opens your eyes to the same.
The way to rule is to keep your subjects away from essential knowledge.
4chan in that perspective works pretty hard to help that idea.

>>8747539
It helps the neophyte to lead groups. Those who make their first steps as a leader in the real world with people who have families and are genuine older in age.
But on the other hand... cosmology is a science right... And how does it benefits the people in daily life?

I need to get over a 60 in the CLEP sociology exam for college credit, where is a good video and study guide for CLEP sociology that will guarantee me at least 60% correct?

>>8747542
Wow, so I tried making fun of conspiritorial worldviews that see everything in terms of power dynamics and control, and you respond with "yeah, everything IS power dynamics and control".
Have you heard of the Cathars, anon? They were a sect who refused to believe what the established church told them because everything in the material world was created by the demiurge. How do you convince someone that the creator is good when they believe that the entire material world is evil? How can you prove that you're not evil?
I hope you see the parallels, here. How can someone convince you to just take certain things at face value, and to accept that sometimes we just make laws just to keep people safe, and not because every law is inherently evil and tries to concentrate power in the hands of the select few?
They can't.
That's what makes it indoctrination, and not science.

>>8747607
I am almost 40 my dear anon. In b4 everything is a conspiracy.
But when I was studying to become a teacher I learned that there are policies to keep some social group, let's say, away from opportunities.
But at this age I don't give one bit about society. I just think and mind about me and the people around me. For my generation internet is a gift and technology helps us to age happy. Let the youngest generation worry about life questions. I don't need answers anymore. I just need space to give some advice every once in a while.

>>8747561
I don't deny that sociology is a powerful political tool. I just think that's not necessarily a good thing.
It's one thing to claim that sociology may be useful, and another thing entirely to claim that sociology delivers objective truth. You should be highly skeptical of someone who claims to speak truth, and doesn't use science.
If I'm a politician, and I learn some fact about cosmology, it might not be useful, but it's a fact.
If I learn of some sociological study that reports "white men are more easily corrupted than other men", then as a politician, I can now use this to push my agenda to remove white men from positions of power.

>>8747644
That reminds my of Rhetoric.
Is not good or bad. Eitherway it's wise to study the subject, not in the least place do you see how many will use it to abuse the ignorant.

>>8747633
You're right, sometimes people do make laws and policies to fulfill a certain political agenda. Sociology doesn't help you distinguish those types of laws from the innocuous ones any better than good old common sense. However, sociology certainly does help make people more pliable and open to believing that everything is a conspiracy.

>>8747512
you just described marxism

essays about conspiracies that do not exist hidden under clunky faux-intelectual writing to make it seem smart to a retard

>>8747649
I have studied the subject, and I have to say that I really don't think it should be taught. The risks outweigh the benefits. Young minds are too impressionable, the teachers are too biased, and the knowledge gleaned from the material is too thin. It's better to have critical thinking classes that help people understand how to compare and contrast ideas, or how to entertain ideas without accepting them.

>>8747658
Well, marxism (and all its branches) are just concerned with a certain kind of power dynamics. There are other theories concerned with power dynamics, too... But all sociological theories have an ideological lens. For example, postmodernism is essentially "like, we can't, like, know anything man, if, like, reality isn't even real, you know?"; the ideology.

>>8747669
I do not totally disagree with you. For the purpose it is taught, it serves it goal. Youngsters who study the subject usually are planned to end at leadership positions. Their naive thinking boosted by these type of education helps to make them blind help to recreate Atlantis.

Just like the young officer who is pretty stupid in making decisions, but will help the general to reach their objectives. Young people are to follow the leader blind. Young leaders are to mercy less.

If this is really a good thing, like you say... I have to shake your hand on that matter.

>>8746824
I thought they hit rock bottom when there Philosophy course included this episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESU5ONMMxs

I know that I am going to be using the Sociology course as a YTP source.

>>8747689
Sorry, don't follow you.

>>8747365
>This makes me wonder, what do sociologists do? Do they only see a setting and then break it down into "the privileged" and "the opressed"? Is that literally all you do? Classify people as opressed or privileged?
Yes, it's literally just repackaged Marxism. As someone who got a BA and MS in sociology, I can say first hand if you don't go along with the narrative you are seen as a pariah.

>>8747241

>Too bad. Understanding sociology helps you understanding most official settings like work floor, gouvernment offices, court of law and your own school. It will make you sharp for situation that are designed to undermine society.

>sociology turns you into an Alex Jones-tier drooling retard

wow sign me up for another three meme degrees!! :DDDD

>>8746824
Lol it took her 6 minutes to get into typical left-wing rant about minorities and stuff.

Doesn't this belong elsewhere?

>>8746824
What's sad is that sociology could feasibly be a respectable and principled field of study.

>>8747351
That's an interesting idea, and might work. It would be similar to how neuroscientists effectively run psychology departments now.

>>8748099
Part of the problem is sociology students who recognize the political bias in sociology, yet refuse to address it out of fear.

Sociologists have nobody to blame but themselves for turning their subject into a laughing stock.

>>8749568
Sociology is good to understand as a backup. It is good for many purposes, but who says it is there to make a decent living out of it? It is essential to use in other fields. Like math.
Math by itself is pretty useless. But it is necessary is many other fields.

Sociology

Science

Kek

>>8747269

taking an upper-division undergraduate course in sociology and can confirm all the things you just said

also, fuck sociology.

>>8749620
>Sociology is good to understand as a backup.
No
>It is essential to use in other fields.
Factually incorrect.

>>8747198

Yeah I did it and it was same. All about feminism, marxism and communism.

>>8746824
Why should I care about Psychology/Sociology if I know about Economics? Not memeing I'm genuinely curious.

>>8750232
Well, psychology is about half bullshit and half a serious attempt at objective science. There is no use to learning sociology, you don't gain any skills, or any new understanding of how society you can't just observe.

>>8750232
>>8750232
Humanitarian aid. Sociology will enable you to study and develop a solution to pervasive sexual harassment within technology-oriented communities, for instance. It is a valuable discpline, one that should not be dismissed simply because sociologists are predominantly liberal. This being a science board, I would have thought that most would understand reality has a liberal bias.