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Gravity Wells and Entropy

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Sorry if this has been asked before,but I was thinking about it on the shitter.

Light doesn't escape black holes, right? I'm assuming that means no energy or matter is able to.

With that said, couldn't a suitably massive gravity well serve as a "cosmic battery" of sorts? All in theory, of course.

We could draw in ambient energy via a gravity well and, in this fantasy where a gravity well can be activated and deactivated, retrieve energy as needed and do this indefinitely, right?
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>>8668870
>in this fantasy where a gravity well can be activated and deactivated
how do you mean?
you want to turn the gravity on and off?
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>>8669010
Not exactly, I can't think of a better way to describe it. I imagine a gravity well is passive but there might be some way to destroy it? And recreate it at some other point.
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>>8669013
>I imagine a gravity well is passive
A gravity well is just space time bent by large amounts of densely packed mass/energy. The gravity well of Earth and that of a black hole are fundamentally the same, except the black holes is larger and has a singularity at it's center. The bending of spacetime is a fundamental property of our universe, it cannot be destroyed.
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>>8669032
*black hole's
*its
god, where is my grammar
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>>8668870
The amount of energy needed to sustain an artifical gravity well would probably exceed the amount of energy it draws, but yes its theoretically possible
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>>8669085
>artifical gravity well
oh anon, I'm very interested in how you create an artifical gravity well
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>>8669103
Not him, but I guess he's figuring that if you gather enough energy you can create the mass to fold space? But that is by definition already a beyond fantastical battery so it's kind missing the point.

Alternatively, pumping energy directly into spacetime (???) to warp space locally would be... interesting. I'd be a lot more interested in reversing the process, though. It'd be pure flying saucer bullshit.
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>>8669130
>if you gather enough energy you can create the mass to fold space
a well created by a bunch of mass/energy is a natural well though, isn't it?
also
>fold
spacetime is bent, not folded

>pumping energy directly into spacetime
wat

I'd also really like to know how OP is going to extract the energy from his gravity well.
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>>8669034
black holes though
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>>8669172
Catch black body radiation along the event horizon?
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>>8669177
>except the black hole's (one) is larger
seems right to me
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>>8669181
that's not gonna be a lot
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>>8669188
Wouldn't it be all energy accumulated in time, though?
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>>8668870
>Also taking shit while posting

What if a blackhole is the start of a tube that is bend? Would is look the same from earth?

Could we
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>>8669194
if you don't mind waiting for trillions of years, then yes, you'd extract all of the black hole's energy
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>>8669205
Well the purpose is to use it as a means of staving off entropy; it should function as a battery that stores usable energy for as long as possible/releases it at a different rate than baseline universal entropy.
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>>8668870

As a purely hypothetical scenario, I think this already exists. It's called the Penrose process.
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>>8669172
Yeah I dunno where fold came from, think I had some sci-fi jargon bouncing in my head when I started pulling that other thing out of my ass. I guess fucking with gravity could be a thing if flying saucers are, but I'm hardly convinced of that.

>>8669188
If he made a small enough black hole, it's going to be a whole hell of a lot, but not for long.
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