What are the effects of poverty and a poor social background

>>8662527
Poverty and deprivation makes people dumber.

>>8662529

Yes, of that I’m certain.

What I wanted to know is if highly intelligent children tend to stand out from their peers even in poor conditions.

>>8662537
Some do, but because most of the poor people of the world don't have social mobility their intelligence gets wasted away, unless they're determined and/or lucky to have an opportunity to use that intelligence for good.

You have to remember that the health and nutrition of the mother during pregnancy, and of the child itself affects intelligence greatly.

>>8662527
>I have also learned that most researchers found that above an IQ of approximately 120 the relations between raw intelligence (IQ scores) and creativity tend to be less significant (in other words, an individual with an IQ of 125 might be much more creative than one with an IQ of 150).


This is real? Source?

>>8663603
Or maybe the researchers were too stupid to understand the 150 IQ kid's creativity.

>>8663603

It is called threshold hypothesis.

I have read about it in a book that contained many articles about the topic of intelligence and creativity, but I dont have it with me right now.

But here: this article mentions the idea (altough it dosent seem to suport it entirely):

>The basic idea behind the threshold hypothesis is that high creativity requires high or at least above-average intelligence. At this, above-average intelligence is thought to form a necessary but not a sufficient condition for high creativity (Guilford, 1967). More specifically, it is assumed that there exists a threshold in intelligence which is usually set to an IQ of 120. While creativity should be limited by intelligence below this threshold, differences in intelligence should be no longer relevant to creativity above it. Accordingly, the threshold hypothesis predicts a correlation between measures of creativity and IQ only in low to average IQ samples, whereas there should be no correlation in groups of higher IQ.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3682183/

>>8662527

>A quality related to both intelligence and giftedness is creativity, which can be defined as the ability to produce valued outcomes in a novel way. Creativity is related to intelligence, but the correlation is far from perfect. In general, intelligence in a particular area seems to be a necessary condition for creativity but not a sufficient one. Individuals with IQs below 120 are less likely to display creative thinking than those with a higher IQ, but above 120, the correlation between intelligence and creativity is essentially zero.

from this book:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471415960/sr=1-1/qid=1153713432/ref=sr_1_1/104-4251552-3286319?ie=UTF8&s=books

>>8664623

also this:

https://books.google.com.br/books?id=_dK79AdKmIoC&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=above+an+iq+of+120+creativity&source=bl&ots=Rbgvg9ef3g&sig=ISImRaL9GszOqqqbZOlRYm9NoRg&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwrt6rx4XSAhUGl5AKHRY2DQQQ6AEISTAG#v=onepage&q=above%20an%20iq%20of%20120%20creativity&f=false

see page 86

>>8664623
lol

>>8662527


It kinda works like this; you can't really make people go past their potential, but there are plenty of ways to make them worse.

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>>8662537
>What I wanted to know is if highly intelligent children tend to stand out from their peers even in poor conditions.

tl:dr: yes.

>>8662537
Education is a protective factor in regards to getting a mental illness while in poverty.

I think it would be reasonable to extrapolate that the level of education obtained by someone is indicative of the IQ of that individual.

So you could say that high IQ is a protective factor against mental illness.

but of course, how can a beautiful flower grow if it is blocked from sunlight?