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Do psychedelic drugs such as DMT and LSD allow you to precieve

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Do psychedelic drugs such as DMT and LSD allow you to precieve certain metaphysical phenomenon? Please no bully
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>>>/x/
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No. Its all in your head. Now fuck off.
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>>8610259
How do you know?
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>>8610259
I said no bully please, thank you ;)
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>>8610244
Yep. Breakthrough doses of any of the more powerful psychedelics/entheogens (DMT, Ayahuasca, LSD, Salvia, Psilocybin) allow your consciousness to leave your physical body and access higher dimensional realms, as well as being able to perceive other phenomenon as spirits, gods, entities, etc. Sometimes people report on even coming close to the Absolute, the Godhead Itself! Perusing even a small sampling of DMT trip reports on Erowid would show you this.
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>>8610244
neuroscience people can talk all day about how using drugs can improve/enhance your life

their main arguments for using psychadelics in their controlled/correct way

>cure depression/anxiety
>can improve cognitive/mental functions

they also dont randomly take a drug. they plan out the setting, take other drugs for a week or more to prepare the brain. in order to do LSD correctly, i was told you had to:

>be in a clear state of mind, no psychotic/depression/bipolar episodes
>no shit taking care of yourself, eat a decent diet and exercise a bit
>take 5HTP 1-2weeks before desired trip date, this increases serotonin or some shit
>take hypoxia drugs for a few days before
>on the day of dont take a small dose, but no heroic doses either 300-500 ug should be enough

and on the day of do something in nature or find some deep music/videos to entertain yourself. think deeply about life or whatever

have antidotes ready incase of bad trip, bad trips can make psychological problems worse

semi on topic, every neuroscience major ive met has been an athiest/anti religion twat in that regard
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>>8610287
>every neuroscience major ive met has been an athiest/anti religion twat in that regard

I take that as a compliment, judging from your post quality.

>>8610244
>Do psychedelic drugs such as DMT and LSD allow you to precieve certain metaphysical phenomenon?

No. You might get a unique experience though.
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>>8610259
it fucking isnt m9
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>>8610287
>antidotes
wat
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>>8610244
Yes, it puts you in direct contact with the universal archypes that live in the collective unconsciousness. LSD is the antidote for post-modernism and post-structuralism.
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>>8610340
>unconsciousness
Unconscious*
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>>8610340
>Tfw I've listened to post-modern music influenced by LSD
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I would say yes. I have experienced "ego death" from acid in the past.

Very scary at the time of happening but I believe I'm more mentally tough because of it.
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>>8610353
So?
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>>8610281
>the Godhead Itself
This is a bald faced lie. I saw the unseen while tripping on some potent white blotter years ago and I can tell you straight up it's nothing but wheels, wheels upon wheels and more wheels. They mostly looked like this.

>>8610357
Bad trips are the best trips.
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>>8610326
Flunitrazepam.
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>tfw take up to 500mg of DXM every day
>tfw can't get high off of psychedelics anymore
>tfw too intelligent for psychedelics
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When i Tried MDMA i closed my eyes and traveld through a highly detailed portal and saw different planets and astroides like i WAs seeing it in a movie, Then i saw the face of some kind of alien, (possibly the typicle "grey" alien although the one i saw Was more Brown) i opened my eyes immidietly after seeing this being
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>>8610287
Drug bros with a neuroscience bachelors aren't neuroscientists.
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metaphysics is fucking bullshit. it might help you find meaning in life or realise changes you want to make. idk. i spam lsd weekly im big boy cid in a sense. it is fun as fuck and makes life better and the afterglow is good. its nice to think with racing thoughts. i also like doing normal stuff on it like guitar, music, games. thinking about math is also really cool. adds new depth. childlike wonder for everything. childlike wonder and genuine disgust. i ate all my tabs so i gotta skip this weekend. oh well i got shit to do anyways. ps fuck the degenerate shits who think they see god on acid or whatever, they give me a bad name. legit low iq brainlets.
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>>8610752
>That absolute garbage vernacular and grammar
>Bragging about taking lsd weekly
>Calling anyone else low IQ

>Believing someone is an idiot for having a different drug induced experience than you

Sorry, the only idiot here is you.
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>>8610244
last lsd two lsd gave me mad horror trips, they do not work well for me desu, better stick with the natural pendant shrooms.

but good weed makes me trip pretty hard aswell, i prefer it over most
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>>8610982
im finishing a phd in pure math and have multiple published papers ur mad as fuq
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>>8610259
You just described all of human perception
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>>8610287
>bad trip
Not a real thing
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I haven't tried them yet but I'm so fucking curious and I'm a coward at the same time. I don't have balls to try them because I don't know anywhere near my town that I can reach ''safe and clean'' acid.
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>>8610281
God is love, love is all
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>>8610433
That's very ignorant and stupid
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>>8610287
>500 dose
>think about your life while tripping
nigger, have you ever dropped acid?
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>>8611739
mush spores can be bought online for scientific research
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>>8610259
>>8610258
>>8610752

people who have not had a spiritual experience pls leave.
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>>8610357
ego death is the best thing ever. it's fully liberating and tranquility in essence. but you have to accept it and let every go. it's not easy.
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>>8611839
I've experienced a very pure form of love. It entered every pore in my body. Felt better than sex.
https://www.amazon.com/Rose-Paracelsus-Secrets-Sacraments/dp/0692509003/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1484764787&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Rose+Of+Paracelsus%3A+On+Secrets+%26+Sacraments
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>>8611839
You first, Deepak.
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>>8611687
wow you're truly better than everyone else. i hope you have a good life in the future too!
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god retards like this are why psychedelics get such a bad rap

no, the "machine elves" did not "introduce you to god", shut the fuck up

psychs are fun and exciting but not when you're a pretentious new age twat about it

>>>/x/
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>>8611854
no fun allowed
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>>8611854
U need ur brani ripped open, fgt
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Underlied by the assumption that one's natural state of mind is the only valid method of perception. Human perception is inherently imperfect; why should altered states of mind be less valid as a means of gathering information
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>>8610244

Son. I'm dissapointed. Santa will not come home tonight.
And why is that dad? I want Santa to come, I WANT!
Grandpa Santa had an airplane accident. I'm sorry son. He didn't make it.
Eeeeeeew! Noooo! It's not fair!. Who is gonna bring me present now? Buhuhuhu... :(
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>>8611854
Yeah, there are idiots that think machine elves literally introduced them to god. We all fucking hate the new age movement.

But you'd also have to be a close minded fool to dismiss both the notion that spirituality, whether atheistic or otherwise, is deeply important to the human condition, and to dismiss that psychedelics can be deeply useful in exploring this spirituality.

> inb4 hurr duurr souls aren't real religion is for dipshits u newage faggot

Not new age. Not religious. Spirituality is a lot of things. It doesn't require religion or metaphysics. Just exploring your perception and subjective experience, and altered states are especially useful for this.
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>>8611839
lmfao spirituality is bullshit
>>8611849
never claimed to be just refuting your claim
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i guess if you do it right it can be nice but i'm pretty sure given how retarded most people are they probably take pyschadelics wrong.
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>>8611912
that wasn't even me... i though you were intelligent?
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>>8611929
he though rong
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>>8611885
Sisaisgiheniwb?
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>>8611912
Spirituality is basic to the human experience. Its what helps us cope with a meaningless universe and to live lives that don't feel like absolute shit when we're not distracted by random shit or busy with self-delusion.
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>>8611992
Hey! That's what I said, buddy!
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>>8610340
You are well Jung. Your gf must be pleased.

Anyway, do this. Take your computer. Now install a nasty virus on it, until a screen comes on telling you to call a number or else your data will be erased. Russian porn sites are good for that.

Is that a new level of the metaphysical Internet? Or did you just fuck up the software?
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>>8610244
as someone whose done it

no

only use them to get to know yourself and subconscious, anything more than that and you're just schizo
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>>8610260
Because it's a drug in your brain temporarily changing its functionality. It is by definition all in your head
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It's really amazing that on a board where people are supposedly "scientists", or scientifically inclined, there's also a huge correlation with nihilism.

Coincidence?
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>>8612302
its the main science dogma
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>>8610244
The only correct answer is "maybe, maybe not."
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>>8611995
nihilism is the only philosophy. as "spiritual" as i get on lsd is thinking about void and absurdity. you only create meaning yourself, and it is false meaning.
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Have you seen the elves, OP?
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>>8610244
They've allowed my to perceive pic related, my current model.

Haven't tried DMT yet even though I've had it stored since 2015.
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>>8613095
>>8612302
nihilism is a bullshit brainlet philosophy that doesn't even fucking say anything
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>>8613161
Nihilism says everything if you aren't an edgy teenager or a person who becomes sad thinking about it.
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>>8613171
>nothing in life matters
Yeah things in life matter to me, therefore your painfully cringey philosophy is objectively wrong.

nihlism is either in this form(objectively wrong) or the "nothing in life has meaning" which like I says nothing, because meaning is not defined and is impossible to define.
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>>8613187
>objectively wrong
Elaborate
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>>8613194
>nothing in life matters
>things matter to me
>nothing
>thing
>nothing=/=thing
>objectively wrong
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>>8613196
>to me
>objective
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>>8613095
I'm not arguing against nihilism. I'm not even arguing for creating your own meaning.

An example of what I would refer to as "spirituality": using lsd to help yourself realize, on a deeply emotional, visceral level, that even your concept of self doesn't exist, because its an abstraction used to link together memories from your meat-puppet to the current condition of your meat puppet and extrapolate to possible future events including your meat puppet.

A huge part of spirituality as I understand it is deeply accepting meaninglessness and uncertainty, to produce inner contentedness. Because if we're going to be here anyway, and if it doesn't matter, why not be content?
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>>8613206
I never said things mattering is objective. I just said your philosophy is objectively wrong.

Nice strawman though.

If I see a tree, that the tree is there is subjective. That I see a tree is objective.
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>>8613217
But that's fucking wrong retard, your logic is flawed
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>>8610244
Well, they certainly make you *think* you're able to perceive them. The question is, "What is reality?"
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>>8613232
As absolutely stupid of a question as that is, its annoyingly relevant when you take an objective look at your subjective experience without any assumptions.

Then you realize that you can't actually prove anything. Logic itself is a construct based on what appears to work in the physical world. Then, if you doubt the physical world, you're left with nothing.

Eventually there's the realization that you can only accept reality based on faith. You have faith that there's an objective, physical world that corresponds at least in some way to your sensations.

You also eventually realize that half the conflicts in this world that aren't about resources are embedded in the different kinds of faith employed to make this world liveable.

It gets absurd fast.
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>>8610244
Define metaphysical. LSD allows you to see with influence from your imagination, I really have no clue what you mean by metaphysical here. Abstract concepts? No, theyre abstract. You can think about abstractions in many ways you would be very unlikely to while not on LSD, but you dont gain any "perception" of these concepts. Sometimes visual hallucinations will flow with music, if thats what you mean.
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>>8610287

Faggot i ate a G R A M.of 4acoDMT and then took abot 100mg a day for 3.5 months.

The TRIP is an aberration and not the result. The RESULTS occur after acclimation. Acclimation to the point you can safely operate heavy machinery on 4 high doses.

None of you know the method.
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>>8613272
>It gets absurd fast.
And that was exactly what I meant, but didn't have to type it all.
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>>8611879
Because for those of us who aren't junkies, your ramblings about the 7th dimensional sexiverse priest are useless.
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>>8613227
>>8613227
elaborate, my logic is flawless

Don't be mad because I proved that your whole philosophy is garbage

I bet you call yourself an "intellectual" fucking kys
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>>8613322
What about when they're not
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>>8610259
see that keyboard those cheeto fingers just used?
just in your head m8, no such thing as external world dude. look it up.
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>>8613327
THEN provide sauce to such a scenario
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>>8613330
I'm sure there are many scientists who use LSD and RCs but don't wish to disclose.

Even if it's never happened, the point is that it could happen.

I'm majoring in physics at a highly ranked national research university. I believe in psychedelics. You can say I'm young, but don't deny it til you try it.

Of course you can't actually "see" anything, but it lets you think in ways you otherwise couldn't, which can be extremely valuable.

Also this, you can believe as much of it as you want

http://www.cracked.com/article_16532_the-5-greatest-things-ever-accomplished-while-high.html
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>>8613324
not him, but you are subjectively inferring that he is objectively wrong
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>>8613335
I understand that people take psychedelics to find new ways to think about things, this isn't very hard to figure out.
If you're looking for a fresh perspective, there are a myriad of ways to alter your brain chemistry that don't involve psychedelics
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>>8610287
>psychadelics

opinion discarded
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>>8610403
>it's nothing but wheels, wheels upon wheels and more wheels

Sounds like God to me...
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>>8613343
How so?

nothing mattering contradicting with something mattering is deduction and objective.

Unless you want to say things mattering to me is subjective, which is just a whole nother philosphical argument at that point...
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>>8613344
>there are a myriad of ways to alter your brain Chemistry that don't involve psychedelics
Not altered nearly as much. This argument amounts to convincing a professional football player he shouldn't take steroids, which just isn't very realistic.
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>>8613349
There was no figurative or literal head so it's a misnomer then, all wheels. Oh yeah, and everyone in the party could communicate telepathically. This ability seemed to come and go in waves. LSD is not very common and hard to manufacture, also too bad it's illegal because something tells me this world would be a very different place with easy access to these drugs. Maybe not better, maybe much better but certainly different. Maybe legalizing weed is a good first step, maybe not, but at this juncture we should try anything and everything.
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>>8613285
What kind of results occur after acclimation?
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>>8610752
>genuine disgust

I tried LSD for the first time about a week ago. I recall going to the bathroom and upon looking at my body, I felt this intense disgust with myself. I'm not fat but I don't have a ton of muscle mass either and it kind of just felt like I was seeing a human body for the first time and it was repulsive. Is this a common feeling?
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>>8613217
Shouldn't that be flipped? The tree being there is objective, as it can be verified regardless of your personal standing on it. But your seeing the tree is subjective, as it is entirely dependent on you whether or not you can see said tree.
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>>8613545
Your LSD trip is entirely subjective, if you were so disgusted with your body, perhaps get into the habit of going to the gym! At least do 30 push ups a day - some sort of strenuous physical activity.
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>>8613545
I had something similar. I had struggled with really disordered eating for years. I had never really had any friends and had always been the skinnyfat/borderline chubby loser.

I started lifting and running a shitload halfeay through highschool and a lot of intense dieting, but it didn't go the best when a) my entire sense of self worth at the time depended on how many calories I ate, and b) food was still my only steady friend.

So as pathetic as it is to admit for a guy, I had a problem with binging/fasting for years and a shitload of stress and anxiety associated with that and my body.

Seeing my body in the mirror on lsd was something else. It was like I was looking at myself from somebody else's eyes, seeing myself the way others saw me, or looking at myself the way I would look at others.

I was disgusted at first. But I gradually realized it was okay. Its honestly what helped me get past a lot of it.
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>>8611687
fuck that guy, finishing a double major in compsci and financial engineering at an ivy league and i love acid, do it multiple times a month.
>>8610982
you hear that fuckboi?

Acid shows you little secret details about how your brain works, you can utilize them and learn how to learn
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>>8611687
lets see those papers then
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>>8610326
most 1st gen antipsychotics will cancel out the effects of psychedelics. benzos will also work, but they just put you to sleep.
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>>8610244
Last time I did DMT I definitely felt like I was in a 4 dimensional room populated by giants made out of light in 70's futuristic jump suits. They kept coming over and touching my face and chest, it felt very loving.

Having said that, I don't believe I'm accessing some higher plan, just that my imagination was going wild.
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>>8610433

>tfw too intelligent

not for long if you keep drinking cough syrup
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>>8610244
The etymology of the word metaphysical should give you a hint on the non existence of this phenomenons.
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>>8613545
everything just seems gross as fuck even with all the vivid colors and rainbows. looking at myself was damn gross and i avoid mirrors. im not even ugly, just bothers me
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>>8610287
>>>cure depression/anxiety
>>>drugs
yeah no
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>>8612292
not necessarily
you might be seeing things you usually ignore
it feels that way
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>>8614208
Oh mirrors were weird. I looked in the mirror and my eyes didn't exactly look any different but I was completely mesmerized by them. Then I looked at my face and hair and it looked like I had aged about 25 years. Exaggerated laugh lines, a general aura of sagginess (not like melting, but saggier skin) ,touch of gray hair, 5'o'clock shadow, the works. It was weird.
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>>8610244
your picture reminds me of "Once upon a time... Life" cartoon
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>>8615089
I tried to treat my own depression with weekly LSD use over the course of 3 months or so. I feel that I've thoroughly thought through and have come to terms with the root causes of my depression. I still have suicidal thoughts no less than once a week, but this is a great improvement as I've had suicidal thoughts almost every day since I was in junior high, asside from about 8 months in high school when I was one of the 5 most popular kids in my school, although I dont believe I have the ability or desire to replicate this feeling of being a celebrity in the future.
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>>8616046
I did it without drugs
I just started laughing at my own death and became genocidal instantly afterwards.
I am actually happy again
try it
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>>8613354
nothimbut
>nothing mattering contradicting with something mattering is deduction and objective
=A contradicting B is deductive reasoning>>>objective
*A contradicting B is contradiction
and also, because A and B are opinions, opinions!=objective...if you asume that objective: in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkBq33KWFmY
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No, it's just your brain interpreting normal stimuli in funny ways.
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>>8611995
Exactly and these fucking idiotic faggots stuff DXM into their gobs every day or smoke DMT so they can meditate and reach the 8th dimension sex machine elves, and become one with the universe or experience 'ego death', or whatever so they can preach about muh spirituality and other new age shite- that doesn't even make a thimble of sense to someone who's brain isn't fried from taking too many psychedelics.

Psychedelic experiences are not real, they just seem real because they directly distort the processes from which your brain creates and discerns reality for you. It is your low IQ brains that cannot figure this simple fact out.

They are worse than religious people
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>>8616046
Actually yes.
It might help sometimes, but thinking that just taking pills will magically cure you from depression instead of trying to sort out yourself really makes me think around.
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>>8610326
For the snake venom when a metaphysical viper bites you, dumbass.
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>>8616664
Except the entire point of lsd is that it helps to think through things and work them out yourself. If you let it, it won't let you ignore any thoughts that you'd normally push back or tell yourself the lies you normally would. Its like a guided confrontation, without conflict.
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>>8616181
Except that's not how it is.

Do you think we take everything we see literally? Do you think we're that stupid? Any pretty visuals or seeing any weird things is completely secondary to the psychadelic experience.

And the experience is real. You can't deny the experience. Whether the experience correlates to something real in the objective universe doesn't matter. The point is using it as a tool or a method to connect with oneself and the world.

What's your problem with spirituality? It doesn't require any absurd assumptions or make any weird claims. Its just a product of introspection.

Though I will agree somewhat in disliking the culture surrounding it.
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>>8615089
Have you looked into it yourself, or is that an opinion?
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>>8616166
There's more to psychedelics than just surreal imagery and hallucinations. Your thought process radically changes and you feel things you didn't think were possible. I'm not saying it allows you to talk to God or see other dimensions or whatever but the imagery commonly associated with psychedelics is secondary to the actual experience, or rather just a result of your perspective being absolutely brainfucked.
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>>8617096
A big part of the misconception is the psychadelic artwork out there and the deep inability to explain the change in perception and experience associated with it.

You want to try to explain to somebody how you saw things on a fundamentally different level. You look at somebody and you see them in a thousand different ways, simultaneously, and understand them. You see a spilled drop of a drink and find beauty in it that nobody else would see, because it just is. And you want to show it to somebody else. So what do you do? You paint a naked lady made of rainbows or something turning into a thousand mandalas, and everybody else misses the point and thinks you're crazy or hallucinating.
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>>8612013
Wut
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>>8610281
>higher dimensional realms

I thought this was a science board
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has anyone tried tripping while listening to lewd japanese audios?
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>>8618237
top kek
>>8617096
+1
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>>8612013

it would be if you had no other way to talk to communicate with Russians
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I basically learned all of the supergeometry used in physics on a ten hour trip. I try to remain agnostic regarding everything, but LSD certainly helps me see mathematics more clearly. I think it's a very scholarly drug.
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>>8611901
>I am not religious, I am "spiritual"
I fucking hate faggots like this. Psuedo-Intellectuals who suffer from narcissistic personality disorder and can't tell the difference between an old house making noises and a ghost trying to communicate with them.
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>>8618293
There is a difference, not that it matters as far as being "spiritual" being dumb.

Religion has dogma, while being "spiritual" doesn't have to. Lots of "spiritual" people will pick up whatever pseudoscience is in fashion, unlike in religion where the set of beliefs are mostly static.
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>>8610244
>>>/b/
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Wow, I've never seen so many dumbasses in one thread before. It's probably all the DMT. Retards.
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>>8613953
dude i had similiar thing on my acid trip but i went i bit crazy it was way too much for me
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>>8618296
>Religion has dogma, while being "spiritual" doesn't have to. Lots of "spiritual" people will pick up whatever pseudoscience is in fashion, unlike in religion where the set of beliefs are mostly static.
And equally retarded

>this book obligates me to remind you you're going to he'll!
>I found this crystal rock thing and it gives me special chi energy and shit
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>>8617132
Maybe it's just one's ability to reason and analyse getting impaired by drugs and that's why it doesn't make sense once one's off them.
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>>8610259
Your entire reality is in your head.
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>>8611575
Did you smoke weed while you were tripping? I heard that can cause heightened anxiety & panic attacks.
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>>8610433
>>tfw take up to 500mg of DXM every day

Fucking Retard.
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>>8618508
no u
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>>8613624
haha ok ill show you the papers and you will arrest me nice try fbi
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>>8611825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZwOg4kTb4
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>>8613161
what is existential nihilism?
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>>8610244
This thread is full of degenerates faggots who need to be shot
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>>8610403
>I had this experience so nobody else could have had a different one
>my experience is the benchmark standard
fucking retard
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>>8616664
I used LSD as a tool to help me break down barriers I had built up around my depression (breaking down my ego as a side effect) over the years so I could deal with its cause, I didnt soley rely on the effects of the drug itself in my self treatment.
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>>8610244
that tetrahedron has a nice dick
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>>8620474
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>>8618784
Maybe you haven't tried psychedelics. Even though it's just a chemical that temporarily tampers with your reasoning and your sensory input, that doesn't change the fact that your perspective is being radically altered. It takes your mind out of its comfort zone for a while and then tosses it around a bit and slams it back in. I think the whole point of the experience is that even though it's just a drug, it rocks your entire sense of being in a way that you can't experience otherwise.
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Can we hijack this thread and discuss the geometry of psychedelic trips?
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>>8620665
I never saw geometry when tripping on LSD. Constant hallucinations for at least 3 hours, never geometry.
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>>8620665
I never saw any actual "geometry", but while I was walking through this forest everything seemed mirrored from every perspective. Up, down, left, right, forward, backwards. Even the sky seemed to mirror the ground I was walking on.
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>Anything that can happen, does happen in an alternate universe.

https://libraryofbabel.info/
>every piece of text that ever been written, is written here, on some page somwhere

What if dreams are like pages from the library of babel? All existing independent of us, largly nonsense, waiting to be discovered by someone who can make sense of it.
What if our dreams are our mind way of accessing alternate universes. Just like the library of babel, the huge majority of it simply doesn't make sense. We don't create our dreams, but rather our minds are accessing random alternate universes and just like the tower of babel simply being there doesn't matter, unless there is someone who can sort through it and find something that is legible and makes sense.
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>>8620690
>>8620753
Must have been low dose acid. Refer to my earlier post >>8613149 and that's basically (but not fully accurate) what I saw overlapping my physical vision.
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>>8610287

>be in a clear state of mind, no psychotic/depression/bipolar episodes
>can improve cognitive/mental functions

>>8610312

>No. You might get a unique experience though

The EM Drive is real. A Radiothermal generator could provide more than the 9.8W required to defeat Earth's gravity, while weighing a few tens of kg.

The EM drive doesn't provide thrust itself - it biases vector equations. All sorts of forces are pushing an object in many different directions, and algebra can describe how those forces decide which single way to go. An EM drive is basically a gyroscope that actually floats up into the air - if you weighed 100kg and your EM drive produced 100N of thrust, you would weigh 0kg. And if you jumped, you'd fly.

There's no such thing as psychosis - on drugs, you get smarter. This is because LSD is a dopamine agonist. Amphetamine and it's substitutes are also dopamine agonists.

Philip K. Dick wrote VALIS after a satellite beamed pink light into his brain from space. The EM drive isn't new - is it so hard to believe that the US government was using them throughout the 20th century, and that this is the cause of UFO sightings?

According to the Cosmic Serpent;

>https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2011/04/17/cosmicserp.pdf
>Then, a few pages away, another shaman is quoted as saying: "At the very beginning, before the birth of the earth, this earth here, our most distant ancestors lived on another earth

Our ancestors were Angels, with big eyes and heads. Nordics, Grays and Reptilians represent three different extremes, and humans are hybrids of all three. Earthly authority and our 'Space Brothers' have one goal;

>http://www.nigelkerner.com/Articles/The_Horde.html
>She notes that in the park 'they're all white. Everybody's Caucasian, there's no Spanish, Black, Oriental'

Trump was born on June 15th, 1946 - Hitler died 410 days before, on April 30th, 1945. Trump is Hitler. He's part of a Jewish-Transsexual conspiracy of perverts.
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>>8620208
>my dad works for nintendo
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>>8610244
Every single drug head perceive different phenomena.
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>>8610340
I'm amazed how a westerner just took Indian culture and used random technical terms from psychology to invent some bullshit that people applaud in his time.
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>>8622728
Nope, there are archetypes. Tons of accounts of very specific archetypal entities.
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>>8622744
Ok show me two.
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>>8622751
Simple, the most obvious I can think of off the top of my head are wall breathing, saturated colors, and texture overlay.
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>>8622958
You said there are tons of accounts and you started to just describe the effects.

It's like a christian guy coming here saying, guys Jesus totally is Messiah / God because people saw him, experienced miracles and so on.

You need proof.
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>>8618296
>>8618293

Again. Discern between the new-age idiots and those who are both skeptical and spiritual.

"Spiritual" and "spirituality" are extremely shitty words for their extremely shitty connotations. What you mean by spirituality is not what I mean about spirituality. The people you're talking about are fucking idiots that can't apply skepticism to their own experiences.


>>8618768
Agreed. They're both idiots.

Perhaps I would be better off trying to explain the context in which I talk about spirituality. Its an understanding of the self and how you experience the world. It doesn't make any metaphysical statements on its own.

Its a natural partner to scientific investigation and philosophy. Its an attempt to understand. In this case, its an attempt to understand subjective experience on a fundamental level.
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