The fact is that the sky is an artificial projection. We have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a11183/could-we-build-a-ringworld-17166651/
http://larryniven.wikia.com/wiki/Ringworld

The scientific 'community' will never admit it. We have to build a spaceship ourselves and go up to space, expose the alien plot.

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>>8563178
That's how the aliens get away with it. You're probably an alien.

My dick is so big the inside of it contains millions and millions of stars

Bumping to get the word out

>>8563180
Argumentum universalis

>>8563164
From all the shitpost I've seen on this board, this is the only one that deserves a medal

Fascinating hypothesis. What testable predictions does it make over our current model?

>>8563603
I'm not making an argument, I'm making an accusation. "You are an alien" is a proposition whose truth-value is determined a posteriori; argumentation has no bearing on it.
>>8563644
If we go far enough into outer space in one direction, we will hit the projection screen. Failure of our space program to get to Mars will be all the proof we need.

>>8563648
We've sent probes to Mars, you twat.

>>8563770
We haven't gotten them back, have we?
Were there people on them who have been to Mars and can attest to its existence?
It's easy to fool spacecrafts' sensors for the aliens. They use tractor beams and anti-inertia rays to produce the illusion of automobility in our spacecraft. Those probes are either destroyed, with the aliens transmitting telemetry back on the frequencies our scientists and technicians are monitoring, or are on a 'soundstage' construct in space over the habitat zones of the Ring.
Every large body in the solar system was broken down and repurposed to create the Ring.

>>8563774
>tractor beams and anti-inertia rays
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>>8563782
The comet Wild 2 and the asteroid 25143 Itokawa were visited by unmanned spacecraft, which returned samples to Earth.

>>8563792
>unmanned
You act like it's hard for the aliens to put samples on these spacecraft...

>>8563774
>We haven't gotten them back, have we?

We weren't expecting them back in our current model. Bit of a useless prediction if it doesn't give us anything new.

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>>8563856
>We weren't expecting them back in our current model.
How very convenient!

>>8563799
>>8563901
So there's basically no way we can find out the "truth" as everything can and will be faked to make us believe otherwise? Then I don't give a shit. It's a pretty good idea to completely ignore any idea that have no actual connection to our reality. It's a brilliant way to completely waste your time. You should do the same thing.

>>8563926
Someday, the aliens will reveal the truth and convert the entire human race into an army to fight their universal war and end the alien Holocaust.
Until then, you'll just have to take my word for it.

>>8563931
So basically an alien Jesus. Believe what you want man, but you sound like a fucking nutjob to me and you probably are.

>>8563934
No, not like Jesus-more like Satan. The aliens have been deceiving us and plan to brainwash us and use drugs to turn us into an army of slaves.

>>8563937
Get help, for real.

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>>8563940
Look, I don't want to believe it any more than you do. I came here hoping to find a good counterargument. All I've found are people who believe that beings capable of constructing a ring made of superstrong materials around a star would have the same technological limitations and knowledge of physics that our contemporary humans do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR2296df-bc

Artist's impression

>>8563937
This is complete nonsense. Recast your words about aliens and God and Satan into something more conventional like Norse Mythology (which is basically what your idea is, Ragnarok), or better yet, as analytical psychology of archetypes. Then you will be able to actually say something.

>>8564144
I wasn't the one who mentioned Jesus initially-get it RIGHT, idiot!

>>8563164
I think you need to lay off the wire buddy, all that current is turning your brain into mush.

>>8563774
Bielefeld is my favourite Martian city

>>8565575
Olympia is lovely this time of year.

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>>8563164

>>8565672
How about you prove that FE theory is correct, then?

bump, this is too important to let it slide

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>>8563180
Posts like this piss me off.

>>8564148
aw he's mad

>>8563947
>implying a civ of beings powerful enough to build a ringworld would bother to buy one in order to wait several millions years fir humans to evolve from apes (why not directly use the apes, that are stronger than men, if you gonna brainwash anyways?) to build an army.

That seems like an atrocious loss of time and ressources. Don't tell me they wouldn't be able to directly build an army with the same ressources if they got so good technology. What would be the interest of humans?

I'm not saying you're wrong. That I don't know. I'm just finding hard to believe that a civilisation with such a retard warplan would have such high technology. That's caveman-level planning we're talking ofhere.

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>>8563164
If we lived on a ring world, Centripetal force and the Coriolis effect would have a noticeable impact that even amateurs could detect. Since the effects that one would expect from being on a ring world are absent, we can conclude we do not live on a ring world.

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>>8563926
>So there's basically no way we can find out the "truth" as everything can and will be faked to make us believe otherwise? Then I don't give a shit. It's a pretty good idea to completely ignore any idea that have no actual connection to our reality.
And that is why personal experience is the ultimate, everything else is suspect of possible signal loss. All pointing to understanding consciousness and how it arises, grows, and creates. And remember, pic related. Eventually a transcendental truth is discovered.

>>8568600
>loss
They didn't lose anything, it's a long-term plan. Their megastructures are integral to their survival as the alien beings fighting them cannot leave naturally occurring habitats i.e planets, planetoids, moons, and stars. They have vastly different means of transportation. It was built for survival.
>>8568795
You fool...you will be enslaved by the aliens someday. It has direct bearing on you.

>>8568770
Wind currents are simulated by the entirely artificial megastructure engineered by superior intelligences. The system simulates life on planetoids to prepare us for war on natural planets. Coriolis, etc. must also be simulated.

>>8570365
Actually the aliens are benevolent lovers who will come down from on high and bring with them rad skateboards and fruit punch. Prove me wrong.

>>8571961
THEY will do it for me on the day of war

>>8571965
I'm sorry but they don't like those who try to break down their grand conspiracy before it is done. I get fruit punch, you get a butt plug filled with ants.

>>8571968
at least I won't die on the battlefields of a nameless rock millions of galaxies away from the origins of my species

>>8571972
All I heard was a place to live, health care and 3 meals a day.

>>8571977
the aliens told you that much about their plans?