Peak Oil MYTH BUSTED

>>8530949
you sir are a boob

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>How oil is created has nothing to do with the fact that oil is finite

It is though. Abiotic oil theory states that the mantle produces oil. If that is the case, then the oil we have drilled so far comprises the part of the mantle's oil that seeped up. Whatever seeped up must be a smaller part of a greater whole. So abiotic oil theory being true means there is a vast sea of oil yet to be accessed.

does this mean post scarcity global communist utopia is achievable within our lifetimes?

The vast majority of oil fields are from sedimentary structures which can be geochronologically linked to the last few million years of life on Earth.

Sedimentary structures do not originate from the mantle, and there wouldn't be any movement from the mantle into these type of rock structures unless there was an igneous intrusion. As far as I'm aware, I'm no expert on the topic, but we don't find fossil fuels in igneous rocks.

Now, if they found coal deposits, or hydrocarbon deposits in sedimentary rocks known to be far older than the oldest complex lifeforms on Earth that can create hydrocarbons, then they have some evidence to go off of. Also, coal is directly linked to deposits from coastal forests hundreds of millions of years ago, especially in the US.

>>8530964
Not communist, capitalist. Communism arises from scarcity.

>wouldn't it be impossible for everyone to be rich since wealth is relative?
Being rich or poor is more than semantic. And we should assume that buying power has not changed. So people with <$100 would all be poor, the same way all starving Africans are poor.

Now you say some people cannot all be wealthy like Trump, because there isn't enough currency (resources) to go around. This is true in a world where resources (i.e., petroleum, which drives technology) are finite. Imagine if everyone lived in 10,000 sq ft mansions and had nice cars. That would be theoretically possible if we had cheap, unlimited oil and cheap robots. Would that not be a situation where everyone is rich?

a good majority of philosophy of science being done at the moment is demanding a justification for science being placed on the top of the epistemological hierarchy. that isn't based in unsubstantiated pragmatism or similar things and it just can't happen in fact, it would have to be a claim exclusively from within the frameworks of the field. impossible.

>>8530974

>Not communist, capitalist. Communism arises from scarcity.

This isn't your average everyday wrong.

This is ... advanced wrong.

Bra-fucking-vo anon. Tell me though, what is the use of private ownership (your right to restrict others access to resources that you "own" and the fundamental principle of capitalism) when there is no scarcity? Why own anything, except for novelty, sentinentality, or convenience?

Do you trap air in bottles so that you may restrict others access to it? Do you keep jars of tapwater to show off your ability to afford it, or to have something to drink when you are too poor to pay for tapwater in the future?

Or do you fail to even consider the idea of attempting to control the air? To hoard the water?

That is post-scarcity. That is communism in its platonic form.

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>>8530968
>I'm no expert on the topic, but we don't find fossil fuels in igneous rocks
Peak conventional oil discovery was some time ago because of this fact. Peak tight - shale oil is around the corner. There may be more large offshore deposits waiting to be found but basically modern life as we know it will cease sometime in the middle or late 21st century. There will no doubt be huge resource wars breaking out, massive oil shocks and much death and mayhem. On the bright side, after its gone, its gone and humanity won't have to worry about that problem again for a long time. The world needs a good cleansing and depopulation anyway. It could be lack of fresh water, a plague or big famine but fossil fuel depletion will certainly be lurking until it happens.

>>8530949
>Biotic oil theory was never really proven.
In the same way that "round earth was never really proven" if you talk with a flat earther...

> There is a nearly infinite source of oil into which we have yet to be able to tap.
But we have never seen the refilling of a previously tapped oil fields (except some cases of horizontal refilling).

>You've been lied to, and the lie serves (((their))) interests.
A phrase that appear in all the pseudoscientific pamphlet...

>Oil is the most valuable substance to global civilization.
You are forgetting printer ink.

> If it were discovered that it is virtually infinite, civilization would continue growth trends all the way to Mars.
And that's why all the times somebody tried to find abiotic oil, they failed
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011205_no_free_pt2.shtml

>>8531011
>this is what filthy hippies actually believe

>>8531011
not really
Most of the world is unexplored
Oil is abiotic in origin so drilling deeper will always find more

It'll be a long time before we run out, and then we'll have nuclear power + batteries

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>mfw incredible amounts of energy is being blasted into space 24/7 but brainlets are too busy arguing over organic chemistry to notice

>>8531333 (checked)
>brainlets
Intelligence only matters because of petroleum removing the need for manual labor. Also, a Dyson sphere would never physically withstand the star's energy or might turn off the sun if it does hold up.

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>>8531080
There's already substantial evidence that oil can form without life. NASA on Saturn's moon Titan: "Titan is the only other body in the solar system known to have a liquid surface like Earth. Instead of water, the lakes and seas are made up of hydrocarbons, organic compounds that also rain down from the clouds that cover the moon."
https://www.rt.com/news/202635-saturn-titan-moon-glints/

Of course it's possible to produce petroleum from biotic origin, but that's because petroleum is such a universally elementary substance. Petroleum exists all over the universe, yes, even in places without life.

>>8531711
Off course it's possible to produce oil abiotically under extended conditions, there's just no evidence of it happening on earth and all the evidence points to fossil fuel.

Peak oil is not a myth, but petroleum exhaustion is.

>>8531711
>There's already substantial evidence that oil can form without life. [...] "the lakes and seas are made up of hydrocarbons,"
It's not the same to say "hydrocarbons" than to say "oil". In Titan you can find light hydrocarbons, like methane or ethane, while what we call petroleum is usually made of pentane and longer (shorter are there in form of natural gas).
https://www.quora.com/Titan-a-moon-of-Saturn-has-more-oil-than-the-Earth-How-much-would-it-take-and-cost-to-transport-that-oil-to-the-Earth

>>8531806
If there are light hydrocarbons on the surface, you can guarantee there are heavier ones down below. You won't find long chained carbons or tar on the surface as those take high pressure to synthesize.

>quora as a source
Bioticfags are really reaching now.

>>8531711
Maybe on Titan, but the temperatures for earth underground are too high for petrochemicals to form.