Nuclear Energy is Doomed

>>8526033
and i can detect radiation from the sun when its daytime.

>>8526052

>if it's natural how could it be bad?!!

>>8526057
>Researchers say seawater samples taken from Tillamook Bay and Gold Beach indicate radiation from Japan's Fukushima nuclear disaster, but at extremely low levels not harmful to humans or the environment.

>but at extremely low levels not harmful to humans or the environment.

>>8526063

And what if the disaster had been worse?

The US Navy has operated thousands of years worth of time with their nuclear reactors and has never had an accident. Every nuclear "disaster" is almost solely caused by human error, not actual faults with the technology.

>>8526069
and what if the moon crashes into the earth?

>>8526069

that's stupid

yeah it could have been worse but it wasn't because after all it was pretty safe

>>8526076
tbf, those reactors were actually designed strictly for power. most shore based reactor designs were made for the purpose of creating weapons material.

/sci/ utterly BTFO

>>8526063
you forget this stuff can accumulate in animals as it passes up the food chain.

For instance mercury in the ocean is at low levels, but it's accumulated in whales so much that now a single bite of whale meat is more than a lethal dose of mercury.

Seaweed sucks up iodine from the ocean and Fukushima is releasing radioactive iodine in a place where seaweed is a stable food of the population. If we have 1 more Fukushima type accident on the ocean in the next century or 2 then sushi will become a lethal food item.

>>8526033
that picture is a wave height map

That's why it is measured in centimeters.

>>8526800
wow! I knew Japan is in danger of tsunamis but I didn't know it was also so damn prone to them. WTF is with that?

>>8526033
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>>8527154

Does /sci/ advocate for Thorium? Most of the anti-thorium articles I've read are just very dismissive of MSRs in general, and it's hard to figure out what the problems are because I don't understand much of it.

>>8526057

The sun is one mean fucker

Here in Oz, you'll die just by standing out in it for a day

>>8526079
that'd be pretty dope

The answer is simple
Only let Americans and Western Europeans have Nuclear Power

If you think this shit isn't negatively affecting ocean life you're seriously worse than climate change deniers.

>>8526033
>2uSv

Literally fucking nothing, you absorb more from a hair drier

>>8527200
If you think vaccines aren't causing autism you are worse than Hitler

>>8527200
I'm sorry you think an insignificant amount of radiation is hurting literally nothing

>>8527209
>fish don't exist or migrate
lol

>>8527211
>I don't need evidence because fish migrate

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>>8526033
>both reactors were built in the 70s when there were way less safety measures in place

Any modern reactor is very nearly impossible to go into meltdown. I really wish people would stop blaming reactors for human stupidity. People act like Fukushima was solely caused by the tsunami, completely ignoring the fact that they cheaped out on the flood wall (only 10m [flood hit 13m] when many places went up to 17m), and their backup generators/pumps were at ground level, and those generators/pumps weren't watertight causing loss of heatsink. Had any one of those things been done, the chances of fukushima spiraling out like it did would have been far lower.

NPPs aren't dangerous, every accident in them has been caused by operator error and/or lax/cheap building.

>>8527231
You're missing the point. The Fukushima disaster /was/ caused by an earthquake and tidal wave but, despite the old (and shitty; fuck BWRs) reactor design the impact was negligible. If I recall correctly when they ran the numbers there will be zero additional deaths due to cancer from the amount of radiation that leaked out.

Also the sea wall was built above spec. At the time the requirements were several meters lower.

>>8526212
I ate whale just a little while ago. Guess I am dead now!

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>>8527248
QUICK BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

>>8527239
>fuck BWRs

I think the ESBWR sounds neat.

>>8527248
Fucking Japs.

>>8527211
Fish aren't going to be affected by an amount of radiation so small that a fridge magnet gives off more

>>8527239
Whats to stop someone from building a reactor far inland, away from potential tsunami-areas? I get that its nice to have the ocean right there as a heat-sink, but cant the same be done with a large enough water reservoir somewhere in-land?

>>8527322
We have a plant in Iowa and there are quite a few in Illinois I know so yeah it should be all good

>>8526033
more people die each year from coal plants by a few orders of magnitude

>>8527623
But what about all of the radiation that was just detected???

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>>8527756
i think we'll live

>>8527820
>Trusting a .png image

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>>8527820
> Sleeping next to someone
> Takes radiation dose
Thank God I'm safe.

>>8527908
It's at least some source of information, unlike your post

>>8526212
This is just wrong.
Osmosis does not work that way.
Second, radioactive isotopes are incredibly diluted so there is basically 0 zero risk of dying because of radiation poisoning.

>>8526212
>For instance mercury in the ocean is at low levels, but it's accumulated in whales so much that now a single bite of whale meat is more than a lethal dose of mercury
People back in the days were drinking pure mercury because they thought it would cure some illnesses.
That must be one hell of a bite of whalemeat

>>8527200
Chernobyl was pretty good for the local wildlife. Turns out having humans in your general vicinity is worse than a nuclear fallout

>>8527138
>wow! I knew Japan is in danger of tsunamis but I didn't know it was also so damn prone to them. WTF is with that?

it sits on the edge of the pacific plate.

>>8526033
Why not use radiotrophic fungi to soak up the radioactive particulates?

Then harvest the radioactive fungi, incinerate them, and then compress the radioactive ashes for industrial applications?

we are wasting a perfectly good disaster

>>8526033
This isn't Nuclear Energy's fault. This is Japan's fault.

Whomever said that an island nation located on the MOST ACTIVE TECTONIC BOUNDARY ON EARTH was allowed to have Nuclear Power Plants needs to be gassed.

>>8526033
whilikers, such scary picture...please terrify me more with le science color pictogramographs

>>8526069
What could be worse than one of the worst earthquake ever measured, followed by one of the biggest tsunami ever witnessed, which had the consequence to destroy the entire region power supply lines, and all this during the final phases of the dismantling of the reactors, where some securities must be removed temporarily?

If anything Fukushima proved that even during armageddon, the risk of radioactive leak is minimal.

>>8528237
>Whale, now 110% mercury
Would explain all the autism on this board, not to mention Japans fascination with tentacle porn and strange gameshows.

>>8527160
>what the problems are

cost, apparently

>tfw nuclear is Doomed in the future because of shit like this

>>8526033
>material from a few reactors getting spread all over the whole pacific.

Well can't be very much per cubic meter after a while.

>>8526212

You would think such a basic analysis would be taken into consideration when the statement was made.

Ok, /sci/: Design the ultimate, fool-proof, short of a supervulcano/meteor impact proof nuclear power site. Money is not an issue, and there will be no hippies protesting for any silly reasons.
It has to be built, and you are to set down the list of how things should be done.

>>8526033
Yep, nuclear war can bring peace to humanity

>>8529717
just build a giant pure-lead dome around it.