Why does life exist?

>>8500317
The same reason rocks and light exist.
It just happens to exist. It's a self-emerging structure under some conditions. That's it.

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Why does the universe exist?

>>8500317
what a retarded post OP

>>8500317
God decided it.

>>8500322
>>8500325
Even wth rocks and light there's an empirical "why" they came to be. But pretty much >>8500322

>>8500317

>what does the universe benefit from

i dont think that makes any sense.. its not like the universe needs to survive and so life gives it survival value.

I think life isn't inherently qualitatively special, its kind of a continuum from other systems that can occur in the universe. They are just very complex and so exist in special circumstances but their existence isn't greater than the chance of fate in the schemes of things or than the explanation that "they can exist so they do". (happy for anyone to disagree, I'm not a physicist or biologist but that makes sense to me. i would love to learn more about genetics and stuff like that).

>>8500332
I'm just curious as to what was meant as a "great energy converter". Is that just retard babble?

>>8500333
what does that mean?

>>8500333
If you have to ask, then it is

So proteins can convert matter into biomass more efficiently.

>>8500344
Seeing Darwinian evolution as a special case of a more general phenomenon.

The underlying principle driving the whole process is dissipation-driven adaptation of matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_England

http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=7263

>asking why
>not asking how

never gonna make it

>>8500363
https://www.quantamagazine.org/20140122-a-new-physics-theory-of-life/

>>8500388

>asking why or how and not realizing both are the story of story making and spending time on them is just spending time on the rhetoric of convincing yourself you know something you could easily just try and that the only thing that is important is whether the story is useful to be believed so the world doesn't stop it.


never ever gonna make it

>>8500317
Because it can

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>>8500412
The uncarved block

>>8500317
>what the fuck does the universe benefit with having living organisms around
the universe has no apparent mind or will and did not create organisms, I'm not sure what you are saying

Life increases entropy faster than non-life does.

>>8500479
Interesting point, but whats the relevance?

>>8500482
Disequilibrium promotes equilibrium. Maybe systems such as life are just the product of a system tending toward equilibrium. We can only know once we can infer the states of existence at the beginnings of the universe and those conditions that lead to those on our planet.

>>8500317
>>8500363
>>8500367

Karl friston has some interesting perspectives on the nature of self-organization. He initially started with the brain but his more recent papers are going into biology more generally;

http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/12/105/20141383

http://rsif.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/10/86/20130475.short

http://www.fil.ion.ucl.ac.uk/~karl/A%20Free%20Energy%20Principle%20for%20Biological%20Systems.pdf

It begins to be an complicated question the minute somebody wishes to knows a "why". Why must be an reason?
It' seems to be somewhat natural to mankind to look for human reasons for anything.
This happens with annoying frequency in the academy. Sometimes it even slow down the scientific development.
My opinion is that there is no so called benefit because there is no intent of being benefited. There is just a number of conditions in which an situation that this number of conditions happen, life can potentially develop itself.

>>8500501
>the beginnings of the universe
I think big bang has really fucked up how people view the universe. A simple yet clever ploy by the church to try and roll with the times leaving a gaping back door of a god creating the big bang. For one thing it could be a multiverse of dimensions and time that has no beginning or end. It could also be alive in a sense, expanding and contracting like a lung.

That the universe is indifferent to our existence is both humbling and horrifying. Nothing matters. We're just these apes on a rock orbiting one of trillions of stars in the universe. You're the product of a self organizing universe. I'll smoke to that ;)

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Not everything needs to have a purpose in the universe

>anthropomorphisizing the universe

>>8500317
Life exists because it is self replicating. If things do not replicate, like the structure of carbon atoms in a diamond, they cease to exist quickly by the laws of entropy. Life is defined as self-replicating and DNA replication is consistent with chemistry.

>>8500317
The Universe isn't concious, therefore, it cannot assign a reason. We just exist because the laws of mathematics, physics; chemistry and biology culminated in the synthesis of life when put under X condition(s).