Neuroscience of consciousness I really really really want to

>>8459047
I took a philosophy course on this with the guy who wrote the encyclopedia britannica entry on the philosophy of mind. Him and a lot of other prominent philosophers of mind are under the impression that the way to understand consciousness is through the Computational Theory of Mind. Look into that.

Spiritualism solves the problem.

>>8459047
It's not going to happen if you only look at it from the viewpoint of Western philosophy. Have a look at Roy Bhaskar's writings. He described reality as 'stratified'; each layer emerges from the previous. For example, chemistry emerges from physics but cannot be described by it. Likewise, biology emerges from chemistry. Consciousness arises from biology but cannot be described or explained by it. Consciousness must be explored at its own level. In order to do this Bhaskar saw that we must use Eastern philosophy also.

>>8459399
Makes sense, intuitively. But does he really come to an explanation, or any scientific laws of consciousness? Or is it just some vague dualism in disguise?

>>8459047
>materialism denies the existence of any phenomenon to study
no it doesn't

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>>8459047
>hard problem of consciousness
>Let's hope this doesn't turn into too much of a shitstorm.

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>>8459047
>Let's hope this doesn't turn into too much of a shitstorm.

It will. The subjects with no clear conclusions or backed up hard evidence are the ones idiots feel most confident to comment about, no matter how deep or significant the subject is.

But on the other hand there is no answer you can find on this earth that will truthfully answer questions about consciousness anyway so you're not really missing anything important. Peoples theories will remain as theories until the day we die and see it for ourselves.

>>8459399

This is a roundabout way of saying that the Western model of causal hierarchy is upside down, and I completely agree.