You folks hyped for ITER or what? This will blow every single

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It's still like 15 years away from full operation. And that's assuming no more setbacks. It has already been pushed back a lot from original estimates.

Assuming it works, it's still only a proof of concept--- that concept being a fusion reactor that puts out more energy than is put in. It would be up to its successors to "blow every other clean energy argument out". It would still be awesome.

>>8455560
this

ITER's goal is to be a test bed for Fusion and "energy out" Fusion. Not as an actual proto-type for a producible fusion reactor.

>>8455519
Fusion research is great, but I can't see this (or anything similar) as ever being viable as a practical energy source.

Fast neutrons make it much harder to get useful energy out, as well as making radiation shielding a nightmare. Capital cost will be astronomical (capital servicing is the primary operating cost for fission).

What problem does this solve that fission isn't a better solution for?

IMO, fusion power is only going to be viable if we can get aneutronic fusion working, and tokamaks aren't going to do that (1H+11B fusion has 1/2500 the power density of D-T, so we'd need something 2500 times larger for the same power).

Stupid guy here.
What the fuck is that?

>>8455645
a boondoggle

>>8455660
Agree with this guy. Fusion research is incredibly important and underfunded, but ITER is a moneysink boondoggle that is kept on life support due to sunk costs and so the EU can point and say "s-see we fund sciences." There's a bunch of interesting fusion concepts being done by smaller companies that aren't getting a fraction of the funding this shitpile is getting.

>>8455732
Even if it's a shitpile it's still such a big fucking legendary overdesigned shitpile you can't help but admire it, as long as you stay far enough away the smell doesn't reach you.

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He3 fusion and mining when?

>>8455732
I thought ITER was the most probable to hit above breakeven tho

>>8455590
ITER goal is to scam money out of EU and participating countries, it's basically welfare for scientists


>"tee-hee our final design isn't ready yet and there's still manufacturing problems but don't worry we will build it in a few short years, we promise"

>>8455519
>muh plasma torus and magnets xD

It's a stupid idea. It's always been a stupid fucking idea. Can it please just fail catastrophically so we can pump the money back into real fusion research?