CHINAAAAA!!!!

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>>8452849

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>>8452855
Team behind the CZ-5 space rocket

These are the 1980s-1990s born generations which have no college debt and love to buy smart phones and DJI drones, dubbed as "little emperors" by western mainstream corporate media and said to be incompetent, scientific frauds and a reason for China's downfall.

Where is that collapse now, western faggots? Where is it?

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>>8452861
China as spacepower.

-Most powerful rocket in Asia
-only Asia country capable of manned mission
-only Asia country capable of independent conduct spacewalk.
-only Asia country to successfully to land and send a rover to moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSBnaIHDZ7A

>>8452863
>Russia is not part of Asia
Interesting.

>>8452913
Part of Russia is, but the one that matters is in Europe, so Russia is definitely more European than Asian.

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They seem to have people in space.

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>>8453031
qt.

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>>8453034

Does anybody have an oversight what the partitioning of Chinas export market looks like?

I read the robot market is booming, makes up a larger and larger fraction of their exports and that in this field, China sells 60% of worldwide stuff.
Does anybody have more insight?

>>8453037
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/chn/#Exports

this?

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>>8453046
Or the simple chart by 2014

>>8452861
Running on copied Soviet engines.

This would have been very impressive in, say, 1970. Now it's just a matter of spending the money.

>Where is that collapse now, western faggots? Where is it?
This sort of big, wasteful vanity project is a symptom of China's decadence. A serious misallocation of funds for what is still a very poor and weak country, which lives hand to mouth on the proceeds of renting out its population as a slave pit and its countryside as a pollution toilet, while its elite steals and embezzles at every opportunity to buy foreign-made luxuries and buy their way into the First World.

China hasn't grown out of the Maoist model of incompetent exploitation, where each level of its elite hides problems from those above. It's just an easier world for the incompetent and corrupt to live in now, thanks to the West's technology, and the West's own decadence and corruption.

>>8453115
>Running on copied Soviet engines.

Wow. Way to invalidate the entire post with the first sentence.

Oh man, if you write papers like you shitpost here...

>>8453120
You might want to actually do some research. YF-100 is based on RD-120.

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>>8453147
>source; internet posting in a forum

Yeah.

Even if it is based on it, it is already modified extensively and not a copy anymore.

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Project Tengyun is the most ambitious of the all, aiming to develop a two-stage, horizontal take-off and landing (HTOL), reusable spaceplane system by 2030. The first-stage aircraft will carry the orbiter to fly to an altitude of 30-40 km, where the orbiter is released and then uses its own power to enter the orbit. Upon completing its mission, the orbiter will re-enter the Earth atmosphere and land on the runway.

chinaspacereport.com/2016/09/16/a-chinese-spacex-aerospace-industry-eyes-commercial-market

>>8453155
What kind of garbage cries "no source!" for information that's on the fucking wikipedia page?

>it is already modified extensively and not a copy anymore.
Hah! "We made some changes, that means it's not a copy!"

Now there's a Chinese attitude if ever there was one.

>>8453187
HTOL means "horizontal takeoff and landing". That's not a picture of an HTOL craft.

They're basically at the same stage of talking about things as NASA was in the 60s, which eventually resulted in the space shuttle.

When you hear someone today talking about an aerospace project that won't deliver results until the 2030s, it's a fair bet that they're not really planning to ever deliver results. The senior people involved know they'll be able to retire before any deadlines hit.

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What did he mean by this?

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>>8453203
Not that guy but the Chinese are basically building a Skylon clone.

It seems like a fairly solid concept to me - the initial acceleration of any launch is the hardest part and jet engines are much more efficient in that regard than rockets, so why NOT accelerate like a motherfucker while you're still in the atmosphere and can take advantage of it?

>>8453222
He hopes that his heavy lift rocket wont be postponed again.

>>8453222
>people interested in space are happy that countries are making progress in space
Woah...

>most of the Chinese scientists are women.
lmao and here in the west idiots complain that women only make it into STEM because of affirmative action. Women really do belong in STEM over men.
Even in China where men greatly outnumber the women, women still come out on top. These are the types of things that get you thinking about your true place in this world. It kinda makes sense though becuase women have always been the nurturers of humanity

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>>8453270
Most of Chinese engineers are also women.

>>8453230
The Tengyun idea is less like Skylon, and more like an early space shuttle concept.

Rather than some fancy new engine, they're talking about taking off with rather conventional jet power, then transitioning to ramjet mode (thus far, like the SR-71, a 60s aircraft), and finally activating a rocket to lift it out of airbreathing altitudes (like the NF-104, another 60s aircraft), before releasing an upper stage capable of gliding re-entry.

Unlike Skylon, the first stage isn't very mass sensitive.

The trouble with this kind of system, and the reason it has never been developed, is that it would be a large vehicle, likely expensive to develop with many years of problems, which would launch a small payload, and only to LEO. It's a plausible path to efficient reusability, but a long and costly one.

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>>8453270
kek

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It's just that Chinese women rarely tend to be soccermoms. Most of them actually like /sci/ and /k/ related shit and can nerdgasm about a well designed machine just like men.

Also, commnism with gender equality enforced by law etc.

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>>8453277
Are they qt?

>>8453278
even if you had to do stuff like launch 5-10 tons at a time to LEO
Full reuse would still be an order of magnitude or two cheaper than expendable rockets

Imagine what the shuttle could have actually been...

>>8453270
>most of the Chinese scientists are women.
Not exactly.
>Gender disparities in science and engineering majors in Chinese universities have received increasing attention from researchers and educators in China in recent years. Using data from a national survey of college students who graduated in 2005, this study documents gender disparities in enrollment and academic performance in science and engineering majors, and explores gender disparities in initial employment experiences of science and engineering graduates. It finds that females lag far behind males in enrollment in science and engineering majors overall. However, females actually are more represented than males in some majors such as mathematics and chemistry though the reverse is true for other science and engineering majors. Also, in science and engineering majors, females perform better than males in both general course grades and in English competency tests. Male science and engineering graduates have a clear advantage over their female counterparts in initial employment after graduation: they have a high employment rate, a higher starting salary, and are more likely to be employed in such jobs as business management and technical specialist. The male advantage in employment rate and starting salary persists even after controlling for other factors.

But I agree that men both occupy whatever is thought of as prestigious and at the same time glorify whatever they are doing more.

>>8453310
>Full reuse would still be an order of magnitude or two cheaper than expendable rockets
That depends on a lot of things. A reusable system of unremarkable engineering could end up costing a hundred times as much to develop as an expendable system to carry the same payload. Then it could cost twenty times as much to build a vehicle, routine inspections and maintenance between flights and other ground operations for this much-larger vehicle could cost one fifth as much as an expendable vehicle, and it still blows up 2% of the time on launch and 2% of the time on recovery.

What a reusable system needs is exceptional engineering, like what SpaceX aims for: a system that costs less to develop than equivalent expendable rockets made by others, and less to build than a equivalent expendable rockets made by others, and then it flies a hundred flights with little to no maintenance.

>>8452849
>Still hasn't gotten to Mars

Ohhhh boyyyyy.

>>8453384
To be fair, only JPL has gotten to Mars.

the air of despair
you can smell it

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>>8453277
Men are obsolete

>>8453391
ESA, India, and Russia have all made it there in addition to NASA.

>>8453400
you dont make it to somehwere you dont touch(Crashing dosnt count

>>8453534
USSR soft-landed two probes. One failed after a few seconds, and the other never established contact.

>>8452861
What's that? I couldnt hear you over the sound of our Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, Asteroid Belt, and Extrasolar probes, right alongside our Mars rovers, as in rover-s with an s, because there's multiple.

>WE MAKE BIG ROCKET
>CHINA STRONG!

Whoop dee fucking doo. Its like they gave themselves an Ariane V/Delta IV/Soyuz, its pointless really.

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>>8453696
whoops

>>8453696
Go away

>>8453696
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

>>8453696
China has a higher success rate than shitty US

>>8453696
Explain why China always win?

>>8453696
Shut the fuck up

>>8453696
Die.

>>8453702
Irrelevant, this is a private company, thats how far we've come. By the way, Space X will be fine.
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>>8453717
Butthurt chink detected. Also, not an argument.

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>>8453719
>US making fun of China
That is rich
If America so great and China shitty why did China win WW2???

>>8453719
Fuck off
I didnt come here for citicism

>>8453147
Ignoring what design the YF-100 is based on, I like their strategy of using just two kerosene engine models for their entire line of launchers. They will very quickly accumulate flight history that way.

LM-6: 1 YF-100, 1 YF-115 upper
LM-7: 4 YF-100 boosters, 2 YF-100 core, 4 YF-115 upper
LM-5: 8 YF-100 boosters, 2 YF-77 core (Hydrogen), 2 YF-75 upper (Hydrogen)

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India > shit China
Coming for both US and China. US and China are afraid

>>8453724
>CHINA HAVE GOOD RECORD

Yeah because you havent launched shit lol.

Remember your lunar "rover" that traveled 20 feet? Or how about your mars ro- oh yeah thats right.

>CHINA MAKE VERTICAL LANDING ROCKET BY 2030 HAHA DUMB WESTERNERS

Been there, done that.

>posts an old Spaxe X launch failure

Then the company recovered and did in a year than your pitiful country plans to do (and will fail at) by 2030.

How the fuck are you even getting through your firewall?

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>>8453726
Oh wow amazing, I have no idea my squinty eyed friend! Why is it that your people got totally ass raped by Japan?

If only they would have bayoneted your pregnant grandma too so I would have to see your stupid posts.

>>8453740
Who are you quoting?

>>8453740
How many time do you need to be said to that you should just fuck off?? China is good and better the US

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We all know who the future of space really belongs to.

>>8453739
according to your thing China has 40 functioning satellites and India has 17

>>8453724
kek how absolutely nothing remains.

>red is colour of success
>China flag has red
This should foreshadow Chinese success over US

>>8453744
Man, you're probably the most butthurt chink Ive ever met.

>CHINA STRONG
>CHINA STRONG
>MAO BRING US TO SPACE VICTORY
>STUPID WEST
>WE MAKE BIG ROCKET
>YOU MAKE ROCKET THAT EXPLODE ONE TIME HAHA
>CHINA BEST BECAUSE I SAY SO

>>8453752
Much less space debris though. Which is all that matters when it comes to space travel

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>>8453724
friendly reminder

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>>8453187
arent they already testing it?

>>8453755
Please stop this.

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Are we being raided? How many of you are actually regulars here and how many were sent here from somewhere else?

>this thread
Why do the Chinese and Americans get into shit flinging fights over each others accomplishments? Shouldn't you be happy about humanity's progress? Nationalism is a thing of the past.

>>8453755
FILTHY SHIT ROUND EYES WE BRING YOU MANY DEATH OF FIRE AND THE FUCK DRAGON

>>8453756
By this metric Africa is currently winning the space race. None of those nations have put shit into space.

>>8453755
Go to get fuck by black person

>>8453770
shut up Canada the adults are talking

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>a fucking dildo

>>8453781
The black version is bigger

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Why is america so fat.

India

>>8454216
i think that the soyuz rocket and capsule is by far the most better betterest of betterestestest spacevehicles ever assembliedoned

and thats hte end of the discussionest

>>8454142
This has to be a joke, right?

>>8453673
Those are still arguable failures, if you want your hardware to survive for at the very minnimum a significant amount of time, fly American

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>>8453744
Dude, China is just getting double teamed by Spacex, and blue origin

Capitalism drives compitition,which in turn advances technology the sooner China becomes democratic and abandons communism the better off it will be.

>>8454316
>democratic and abandons communism
democratic isnt opposite to communism

for instance, the US isnt communist and is one of the least democratic countries in the world

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Holy shit being this mad after getting BTFO.

>>8453696

Keep up the good work, fellow American.

>>8454308
It's true that only America has had truly successful Mars landing probes, but only the Soviets had truly successful Venus landing probes.

The Americans landed one probe on Venus, which continued to operate for 45 minutes, but it was not designed as a lander, so it gathered little useful information.

The Soviets have given us the only pictures taken from the surface of Venus.

Still waiting for that Venus balloon camera mission.

>>8454360
It is very similar to China strong threads on /k/.

The only reason America hasn't collapsed yet is because of Chinese and Korean immigrants.

>>8453766
It's either an autist looking for (you)s or one very persistent 50-cent footsoldier.

>88 replies, 21 posters

It always ends in tribal psychosis.

>>8454368
There isn't really any good reason to land on venus, it's a high gravity molten oven on the surface with an insane atmospheric pressure.

The reason the US sent ballons, is because the clouds in venus roughly 40km up are not to bad, you could in theory live comfortably up there without a pressure suit. all you would need is an O2 supply and a chemical suit to survive the constant acid rain.

>>8454142
It's "Heavy" not "fat", you insensitive clod!

But seriously, all the fat stages use Hydrogen fuel, which require high-volume tanks compared to kerosene. Delta IV, LM-5, Ariane 5, H-IIB; they all have about 5 m diameter hydrogen tanks.

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God damn why are Chinese the most fragile people in Asia?

>>8454941
Because they werent already broken, unlike the Japs and those other the white people have already enslaved.

>>8454943
Go back to your containment board

>>8455263
same to you, faglord

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Imagine:
If ULA didn't exist, China would have the most powerful rocket in the world.

>>8455266

White supremacists like you have nothing to do with science.

Get fucked fedora tipping faggot.

>>8455294
If ULA didn't exist, China would have targetted Ariane 5 performance rather than Delta IV Heavy.

>>8455302
>white supremacist
White "people" suck along with Chinese "people". Literally all cancer
Japanese (and MidEasterners) is the only not garbage in this world

>>8455313
>"""Chinese "people""""

IN BOX

>>8455294
designed to trigger the acolytes of Lord Elon?

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Samefag

http://spacenews.com/poland-china-to-jointly-build-satellites-boost-space-cooperation/

>Poland, China to jointly build satellites, boost space Cooperation

kek