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Existence itself is an emergent property of mathematics?

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Mathematics is the only thing that remains true no matter what physical laws are present, it remains true outside of time and space. So what if, since the entire universe is governed by the laws of mathematics, existence itself is just an emergent property of mathematics?

Since it requires no underlying framework to be true, what if it is the framework in itself? Can this happen without some kind of object to compute it?

The idea of an infinite universe or infinite cascading simulations doesn't make a shred of sense since there is no start or end point, but then again does there need to be in the first place?

What's /sci/'s take on this? The very fact we exist at all messes with my head.

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Math is coded in our minds
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>>8446413
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>>8446486
Life only has meaning if you give it meaning. Memes give life meaning
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>>8446413
>"planet" column
>includes pluto
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>>8446413
>he fell for the math is objective meme
Let me give you a specific example. You know that 0^0 doesn't actually equal 1 right? The methods humans have constructed can't deal with 0^0. 0^0=1 is simply an agreement between *most* mathematicians.
When you enter 0^0 into a calculator and get 1 in return, it's not actually calculating anything. It's just returning a preprogrammed answer. In the same way some calculators will return division by 0 to infinity and some as undefined
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>>8446561
Then maybe Gödel's incompleteness theorem can be applied to the universe itself just like in mathematics. There are things that cannot be proven or known unless you are outside the system, but if the system is all encompassing then it is impossible to prove.

Is 0^0 one of these or is it just something we've not gotten round to grasping yet?
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>>8446413
>since the entire universe is governed by the laws of mathematics

You are overthinking this too much.There are no mathematical laws just definitions, axioms, and theorems. These are all man made constructs. Also, mathematics does not govern the universe. But, math is useful to explain how the universe works.
mathematics does not
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>>8446600
>Is 0^0 one of these or is it just something we've not gotten round to grasping yet?
0^0 doesn't exist outside of "the system" we've made. There's no absolute truth waiting to be discovered
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>>8446413
This is your brain on popsci
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>>8446561
>The methods humans have constructed can't deal with 0^0.
"How many functions are there from the empty set to the empty set?"
"How many strings of length 0 are there when the alphabet used has 0 characters?"
"What is the value of the product [math]\prod_{i=0}^b a[/math] when both a and b are 0?"
All of these give the correct answer for 0^0, namely 1. Saying "0^0 = 1" is no different than saying "0! = 1" - it's just how empty products work.
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>>8446698
literal math for kids demonstrates why you're wrong and gives academic sources
http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.to.0.power.html
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>>8446698
How do you figure on the third one?
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>>8447450
The sum over a set of 0 elements is 0, because 0 is the additive identity. This is why a*0 = 0 for any a, and why 0 can be considered a triangular number.
Similarly, the product over a set of 0 elements is 1, because 1 is the multiplicative identity. This is why 0! = 1, and why a^0 should be 1 for any a.
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