Does free will exist?

>>8422998
define "free"

>>8423023
Presented with choices A and B, you can go either way.

>>8423040
By that definition. A machine which does everything based on a random coin toss can be said to have free will.

>>8423049
>random coin toss
>random

>>8422998
volition is but an illusion.

>>8423040
Just like a robot dog then.

I am free to act in accordance with my blood line and in relation to duty to my race, people and my land. The same with everyone.

It's all an argument of semantics and a total waste of time. This is a science and math board not a linguistics one.

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>>8423375
some real nigga over here

If you believe in determinism or indeterminism, then no.

The fate of the commoner shall
depend on the will of the free.
Make them love their servitude,
let them call it freedom.

>>8422998
Nah

>>8423439
Well if you're a soft determinist you can always warp your definitions and say free will does exist but it doesn't matter, like >>8423040 says. Where free will exists in the sense that you're not being coerced into making one choice or another.

>>8423049
a machine can't do random stuff

>>8422998
"Yes I have free will; I have no choice but to have it." Christopher Hitchens

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>>8423652
Christopher Hitchens a shit

>>8423661
Could you elaborate on this?

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>>8423668
>quarter Jew but claims full Jewish muh heritage
>uses socialist and Marxist interchangeably
>shits on Mother Teresa for no reason
>new atheism
>shits on Bob Hope for no reason
>slept with two men before realizing he wasn't gay
>"John Ashcroft is a greater menace than Osama Bin Laden"
>mom an hero

The difference between Hitchens and a middle school wrist-slasher is the kid grows out of it.

>>8423698
>shits on Mother Teresa for no reason
well thats not true he made some good points

>>8423375
this

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>>8423652
to some extent, I second this

>>8422998
stop with that crap already, every 3 days the same fucking shitty thread.

grow a fucking nerve.