Is nofap a meme? I haven't been able to find any hard science

>>8402361
I am planning on trying it yes. The problem is I'll have no way of knowing if it's just placebo and also my personal experience would still be anecdotal.

>>8402353
>Is nofap a meme?

Definitely, unless you want to be a low testosterone male feminist cuck.

Masturbation increases testosterone, which then increases your intelligence and physical fitness.

>>8402373
Can you please stop shitposting here anon

>>8402377
>A July 2010 "Psychology Today" article concedes that testosterone levels may rise during masturbation. However, the article suggests that ejaculation does not significantly affect testosterone levels: testosterone levels may rise slightly during sexual activity, which includes masturbation, and levels drop back down to normal levels afterward.

>According to an article on the T Nation website, a 1978 study evaluated testosterone levels in young men after sexual activity. The results of the study indicated that testosterone levels were slightly higher in young men after masturbation.

sources: "Journal of Zhejiang University": Relationship Between Ejaculation and Serum Testosterone Level, Abstract
"Psychology Today": Ejaculation How Often For Good Health

>Testosterone Hormone Linked to Higher IQ

http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/03/14/testosterone-hormone-linked-to-higher-iq/24379.html

And well, everyone fucking knows testosterone increases fitness.

So go masturbate faggot. If you really want to "no fap" then some other research I found says that if you do not masturbate for 6 days and then masturbate in the 6th day, in the 7th day you will get the most optimal testosterone high. As in, that 6 day wait makes the testosterone increase more efficient.

But waiting 6 days is for fags. Quantity > Quality.

I masturbate more than 3 times a day and I am studying pure mathematics. There is obviously some strong correlation here.

How do I do a successful nofap? I've tried really hard many times but I always give in.

>>8402383
Nice sources faggot. Let me guess

>thegentlefeministdoctor.com/Ihatemen/propagandatodecreasemalesuccess/testosteroneisbadlol.htm

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>mfw morons think testosterone is a limited resource grudgingly doled out by the male body from the tiny little testicular reservoirs, and not manufactured as needed by opportunity and usage
>mfw morons get suckered into some alt-right half-wit's puritan trip

>>8402423
>>mfw morons think testosterone is a limited resource grudgingly doled out by the male body from the tiny little testicular reservoirs, and not manufactured as needed by opportunity and usage

And this is my point. Certain actions increase testosterone, the way doing extreme exports increases adrenaline.

What kinds of action increase testosterone? Sex and masturbation, among others that are less effective.

Sure, you produce testosterone naturally, but you can optimize its production by masturbating more. You can trick your body into thinking it needs even more by constantly engaging in sexual activities and then, as testosterone increases IQ, you can reap the benefits in a succesful university career.

>>8402353

I have been doing no fap during the week and then fapping on Saturday night (assuming I don't get laid) as well as on Sunday. This way my test peaks on Friday and Saturday. Here's some science on it: "On the 7th day of [ejaculation] abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01)."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

>>8402423
>>8402439
Wouldn't someone have more drive to find a mate if they weren't sexually satiated at all times by jerking it?

>>8402393
u no fap

>>8402450
No, that itself is a sign of low testosterone that NEEDS to be corrected.

As I said before, I masturbate many times a day and even then I still always horny. When I go to uni and see an ass I can't help to get hard immediately, I want to fuck, and this is healthy.

When my girlfriend visits on weekends I am always sure to masturbate before she comes, so that I can at least resist those first 5 minutes talking her and giving her a drink or something without getting my cock all hard.

Heck, now just talking about sex is giving me a half erection. I will need to masturbate soon.

Why does this happen to me? Because my testosterone levels are IN THE SKY. I am probably at 1000% testosterone. My cock is almost always hard, and this is a healthy thing. Cocks are supposed to be hard, you are supposed to always be half-horny because that constant flow of testosterone helps you think fast and act fast.

>>8402470

Your testosterone starts going back down after about a week supposedly so it's important to reset the counter so to speak

>>8402479
Why not reset the counter every 5 hours?

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>>8402485

Cmon brainlet, we're trying to maximize test here. I've painstakingly illustrated a rough graph of your test over a week. If you reset that often you are keeping your test at a very low level. Also, if you let it go too long past about a week then your test starts decreasing. Thusly, in order to maximize your test when it's most important (IE when you're going out on weekends), it's best to fap a few times at the end of the weekend and then let your test build up over the course of the following week.

Or at least that's how I like to do things.

>>8402512
Is your graph implying that when you masturbate your testosterone drops to 0?

Also, nice sources again man. Let me guess again

feministfrecuency.com/Men-are-pigs/Anti-men-articles/tell-men-to-not-masturbate-and-give-them-these-lies-so-they-believe-it-is-a-good-idea.htm

>>8402526
I am just using feminists as an easy punching bag.

The fact of the matter is that in this thread, the only person who has supplied any sources has been me and those studies pointed to masturbation immediately increasing testosterone, and testosterone increasing IQ.

Everyone else asserts shit, then draws a cute graph, and expects the brainlets to believe them.

Not in my house.

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>>8402517

I already cited my source earlier: "On the 7th day of [ejaculation] abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01)."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241

Labeled the graph to be more brainlet friendly as well

>>8402535
So does anyone have experience with the jack off once a week plan? Do you feel a perceptible difference by day 7?

>>8402893

Yes, I do what I described in here >>8402512 and here >>8402445 which is fapping a few times a week, but only on Saturday night/Sunday. As the week progresses I start feeling increased urges to fuck the shit out of someone and somewhat increased aggressiveness/energy

Low fap is more like the lowest step in learning some self discipline than anything else. If you can't even stop touching yourself for a while you won't be able to do anything more demanding than that. All the positive feelings and shit is actually just because you're managing to hold out and do a task consistently you ordered yourself to do.

There is nothing else to it but it's kinda strong anyway because masturbating every day is a waste of time anyway.

I had an amazing fap last night after a month of nofap, the denied orgasm kind where you purposely stop fapping in the last few seconds and let your automatic ejaculatory reflex do all the work from deep down inside your prostate... did it standing up for maximum weak in the knees feeling... shit was cash

would recommend

note how every time you bring it up a bunch of people (fappers) inevitably tell you theres nothing wrong with it and that its healthy like they're trying to justify their own addiction

>>8402900
>>8402926
That's very interesting. So this at least gives some validity to the nofap movement. At least opposed to the people who say it's 100% pseudoscience. I'll do some of my own experimenting.

>>8403041
I think it's at least a mental addiction because I have such a hard time stopping. I had an easier time fighting cigarette cravings than I have not jerking it.

>>8402353
/r/ing more Alex Jones memes plz

I did a 100day no-fap once
at the end of it I no longer saw a reason to continue because nothing was different than at the start.

About 1m in my boners were way harder than before starting.

But at about 2months I could notice myself thinking less and less about sex. It is a good feeling but goes away.

>>8403075
and I mean you never stop thinking about sex completely which is unfortunate and was my only goal

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>>8403069
Sorry this is all I got. There's some really great Alex Jones memes though I just can't find the ones I'm thinking of.

>>8402450
Pretty much, this is what leads to bestiality and child sodomy though. This no fap business started on far right boards and is simple vestigial puritan Christian dogma. On the other hand, we are inundated with porn today and one has to wonder what it will do to the children. As a youngster getting hold of a porno mag was sometimes difficult.

>>8402961
wow

>>8402961
sitting on dick it's the same

>>8403078
Yes there's a period of time called a flatline where you'll be disinterested in sex but it passes after a few weeks to a month

>>8402353
I didn't masturbate for a couple of months. No noticeable difference (aside from the obvious: more frequent erections and a really satisfying fapping session at the end of it). This is the problem with self-reported data, it's mostly a selection bias effect you're seeing.

>>8402378
Everything is just a placebo

>>8403155
Nope. You feel the change. Placebo is not "If I imagine myself fly, I'll fly!", but it's more like, "If i think I won't die tomorrow, the stress levels and the POV of my decisions will drastically change".

Brainlets can't tell the difference, tho.

>>8402370
So, you're worried that all the positive side effects happen to you but it will be a pacebo effect so it won't mean anything?
I don't get it, a placebo effect is still an effect fa[math] [/math]m

>>8402353
If you do nofap properly (i.e without sexual stimulation or teasing of any kind ), and live healthily you must feel more energized. This is a lifestyle, nofap alone never really works.

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>>8402353
Nofap is a mistake. Noporn is the way. When people go on nofap they confuse the positive effects of noporn on social and mental health, and happiness with not fapping. I tried both and noporn is the only thing that actually had overall positive effects since I wasn't sexually frustrated from nofap. Trust me. I actually did it through the scientific method just for fun.

>>8402961
Would not recommend. I've done this on accident trying to edge before. Who the fuck wants to skip the orgasm in their jerk off session? It defeats the whole point and leaves you unsatisfied.

I would jerk it every day, if I wasn't worried about Balding. Does Masturbating speed up balding?

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>>8403069

>>8403075
How difficult was a 100 day nofap? Does it get easier as time goes on?

(((low t))) is literally a Jewish scam made up by the manufacturers of Androgel. There is literally no benefit to supplementing with exogenous test unless you're under 250ng/ml.

>>8405002
>>>/pol/

>>8402353
>Is nofap a meme?
No, absolutely not.
Once I accidentaly did not fap for a week and now I'm making $100k dollars per second.
Idiot.

>>8402392
>testosterone levels increase with masturbation
>high T levels Correlate to high IQ

I'm going to masturbate my way to genius status boys.

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>>8403380
I think you are right. A Netkaizen guy I know said this last month.

Is it really worth it?

>>8402463
Reads like a copypasta

>>8402353

I don't think you become more attractive or even focused if you do not fap over longer periods of time.

What I can attest to from experience is this, though: I am definitively more focused and slightly more "fulfilled" if I don't browse porn whenever I'm idle on the computer and if I limit myself to masturbating exclusively when I'm really horny, not just mildly aroused and bored.

Don't think that's hormones, just the subjective feeling of not giving into nihilistic idleness. It's giving things like this, sensual things, their time instead of just doing them because you're bored. Like making yourself a real, good burger is infinitely more fulfilling than going to McDonalds.

>>8405510


...what on earth is the president doing in that picture?

>>8402353

Of course it's a meme, the chemical process of ejaculation is the same regardless if it's done by your own hand or by sticking in a vagina.

It's literally that simple.

>>8402439
also stimulation of large muscle groups has been shown to indirectly drive natural testosterone production, i.e. squats and deadlifts promote natural testosterone generation

>>8405655

You are describing a process beyond ejaculation. The emotional difference between masturbation and sex is obviously real, but the actual process of ejaculation is the same in both.

>>8402395
Oxford studies, you dweeb.

>>8405667

You may be describing the bigger picture, but the process of ejaculation is the same in both. If masturbation has harmful effects, then sex has the same harmful effects.

Maybe masturbation and sex has different emotional impacts, but that says nothing really. Masturbation could be positive or negative emotionally, sex could be positive or negative emotionally.

>>8405690

No you haven't, all you've done is comparing the process of sex with masturbation. Sex may have more positive attributes than masturbation, but it says nothing on whether or not masturbation is harmful.

>>8405708

That's the topic of this thread and what I responded to.

>>8404960
It gets easier for a while ("flatline") but then difficulty only keeps rising. At the end it was as difficult as it was when I started, perhaps even more difficult.

disappointing, really

>>8405847
yes well I'd rather it didn't

>>8405506
>>8402392

>high T levels Correlate to high IQ
If that were true, all the roiders on /fit/ would be geniuses

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>>8402439
>testosterone increases IQ

nigger I inject a couple different AAS

hasn't effected my IQ at all

>>8402353

Heh, "hard" science.

>>8402392
>>Testosterone Hormone Linked to Higher IQ

so many ways to disprove this lol

I inject test and have the same IQ I always had
>inb4 muh n=1 evidence

also that article only talks about prenatal testosterone

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>>8405510
Tbh I was bretty depressed before noporn then my mood skyrocketed after just 1 day of fapping without it. I have relapsed once though (since it's addictive as fuck) and my mood plummeted as did my cognitive ability; I didn't have as much drive, or excitement about learning things in class.
Definitely worth it and if you can commit I'll bet it'll be one of the best decisions of your life.

~Pseudoscience below : trigger warning~

A quick way I've devised to discern if you have porn addiction or fapping addiction:
>Fapping for long periods of time, consuming alot of porn, edging = Porn Addict (or on your way to becoming one)
>Fapping as often as you can, consuming whatever porn/stimuli gets you there faster, just trying to get that nut out = Masturbation Addict (or on your way there)

nofap literally just trains your willpower, and temporarily raises testosterone during the withdrawal period. you can achieve the same thing by just forcing yourself to do stuff

The feeling of no gf contributes to lower productivity in the sciences and workplace

The obvious solution is for the government to assign me a gf

>>8402353
Only thing you will get out of it are prostate problems. Why is everyone si god damn stupid.

>>8406757
>try to do something about it
>it doesn't work
>share results
>w-well fuck you go cut off your balls, idiot
wew
And I was complaining that I was unable to completely suppress those desires

>>8406736
Well aren't they?

>>8402463
Sides please con back earth

>>8402378
IS
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